Anti- homeless studs

[Kizzy]

Anti-homeless studs at London residential block prompt uproar
Critics say spikes treat homeless 'like pigeons' as residents fear short ground spikes at doorway are to deter rough sleepers.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bpd5WxKIgAE5c-j.jpg




Katharine Sacks-Jones, head of policy and campaigns at Crisis, said: "This is happening in a context where rough sleeping has gone up massively. Over the last three years rough sleeping has risen by 36% nationally and by 75% in London. More than 6,400 people slept rough in London last year."

"The reason for that increase is the continuing economic downturn, the housing shortage, and cuts to benefits, particularly housing benefit."

Do you agree with these, or are we treating the homeless worse than we treat animals?

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jun/07/anti-homeless-studs-london-block-uproar

[Jack_]

Saw this on Twitter yesterday, it's repulsive

[Jords]

Thats disgusting, all they want is the shelter.

The studs also look ridiculous.

[arista]

Saw this on Twitter yesterday, it's repulsive


But Legal
and Needed





Life In The City

[arista]

Thats disgusting, all they want is the shelter.

The studs also look ridiculous.


There is No bog there



Its Not a Shelter

[Jords]

It is from the weather :pipe:

[AnnieK]

That's disgraceful.... Not only could it harm someone looking for shelter, children and animals could get hurt also....

[arista]

That's disgraceful.... Not only could it harm someone looking for shelter, children and animals could get hurt also....


Rubbish no animal will go there
it is to prevent a Smelly Stinking Homeless man
laying there.


Note : there is no Bog

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its a good idea to keep them away from your building

[Marc]

I bet they are quite a pain to move on though

[arista]

Its a good idea to keep them away from your building


Bang On Right

[Kazanne]

I can see both sides of this,if it's a business,someone kipping outside would look bad,if it's a dwelling,if it was your house would you be happy for anyone to kip there? on the other side these people need somewhere to shelter,so I don't know the answer to that unless more homeless shelters are made available.

[Jords]

Give them a cup of tea and send them on their way in the morning. They might be a problem to move but we are people are were very capable of achieving things.

[Kizzy]

Have to say as upsetting as it seems I would be lying if I said if I lived there I'd be happy for anyone to sleep on my doorstep.
That said as well as this preventative measure if there was provision made as an alternative it would be more proactive.
As it stands it's just ignoring the issue, and sweeping it under the carpet, out of sight out of mind?

[Jarrod]

Rubbish no animal will go there
it is to prevent a Smelly Stinking Homeless man
laying there.


Note : there is no Bog

What if it's a teen that was kicked out that night by his parents? What if they were lost and just couldn't find anywhere to go? Don't presume that every homeless person smells. Show a little more compassion towards them. They're clearly struggling to find somewhere to live. What if you were in their position? I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate being called a "Smelly Stinking Homeless man"

[arista]

What if it's a teen that was kicked out that night by his parents? What if they were lost and just couldn't find anywhere to go? Don't presume that every homeless person smells. Show a little more compassion towards them. They're clearly struggling to find somewhere to live. What if you were in their position? I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate being called a "Smelly Stinking Homeless man"



They would look for another place to sleep.



"you were in their position?"
I would live in a park
not getting in anyones way

[Jarrod]

They would look for another place to sleep.



"you were in their position?"
I would live in a park
not getting in anyones way

The park isn't sheltered. The building has at least a bit more shelter from rain and terrible weather.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The park isn't sheltered. The building has at least a bit more shelter from rain and terrible weather.

there are shelters, plenty charities can get you a bed.

[Me. I Am Salman]

wow :joker:

[arista]

The park isn't sheltered. The building has at least a bit more shelter from rain and terrible weather.


Yes but I can build a shack
to keep out the Rain.



That building front is Not a Bog

[Kizzy]

Stop saying it isn't a bog, what makes you think homeless people sit around peeing themselves arista?

[smudgie]

Surely the churches should open the doors to the homeless at night, at least in the winter.
Christian thing to do after all.:hugesmile:



Edit: I think the studs are a disgrace.

[InOne]

there are shelters, plenty charities can get you a bed.

Yeah but how many know where they are and how to find them?

[joeysteele]

Surely the churches should open the doors to the homeless at night, at least in the winter.
Christian thing to do after all.:hugesmile:



Edit: I think the studs are a disgrace.

The studs are an absolute disgrace and I totally agree with you as to the Churches, it is obscene that such big buildings open their doors for only a short time a day.
Less and less in fact, so even denying those in distress who believe, a place to go and feel comforted.

They make a lot of comments and noise about the homeless but I have actually seen a priest send for the police to move someone on from outside his Church.
It makes me really mad,doors to a sheltered building and warmth very firmly locked.

Worried about the candlesticks and their value maybe, well don't have expensive things in Churches, just make Churches somewhere where people who need them feel safe and by doing so set an example too.

[Crimson Dynamo]

yes the studs are
a disgrace until they affect you

until then

a disgrace

[jackc1806]

Yes but I can build a shack
to keep out the Rain.



That building front is Not a Bog

Arista is basically Bear Grylls

[Josy]

That's awful.

Also what if kid falls on them? :umm2:

[Kizzy]

I don't want to say I hope they do obviously but I hope that if it happened there is some action taken, they could cause some really serious injury those things.

[arista]

That's awful.

Also what if kid falls on them? :umm2:


They will be fine
they are not pointed

[arista]

Stop saying it isn't a bog, what makes you think homeless people sit around peeing themselves arista?


Everyone has to go to the bog



Thats why no one should be there

[Josy]

They will be fine
they are not pointed

Get real. If a kid or anyone for that matter falls on them it's going to hurt.

[Marsh.]

I'm going to buy them a ****ing thick mattress.

[Vicky.]

God forbid someone down on their luck wants a bit of shelter eh...

[Kizzy]

Everyone has to go to the bog



Thats why no one should be there

Stop saying bog!!

They're not going to piss where they sleep are they.. Are they animals, why are you attempting to dehumanise these people just because they're homeless?

[joeysteele]

The homeless are easy targets, they have no status and get demonised left,right and centre.
When you see how a so called responsible elected Govt. treats them, it is then hardly surprising following that shocking example as to this present govt. that a good few people think they can do anything against them.

Easy to attack those at the bottom but for me such treatment is gross and immoral.

[Jords]

Stop saying it isn't a bog, what makes you think homeless people sit around peeing themselves arista?

Stop saying bog!!

They're not going to piss where they sleep are they.. Are they animals, why are you attempting to dehumanise these people just because they're homeless?

:laugh3:

Im cracking up because I was thinking this earlier but didnt want to post it.

bog bog bog bog bog

Homeless people dont soil theirselves.

[Marsh.]

It's not as if the studs would stop them using it as a bog if they wanted anyway.

What are the studs doing to prevent anyone pissing on them? :shrug:

[Kizzy]

BOG

Are you happy now?!

:bawling:

[Josy]

Bog standard reply expected from Arista

[Marsh.]

Bog standard reply expected from Arista

Boom

[arista]

Get real. If a kid or anyone for that matter falls on them it's going to hurt.


Yes but not killed

[arista]

Live on LBC Radio

Nic just said you do not want a Homeless person urinating before
they move on, just as you come out of your flat, in the morning.

See Kizzy
The Bog Issue is Live

[Toy Soldier]

It shouldn't even be an issue - no one should have to sleep in a doorway in the first place. It really is a disgrace. Nowhere near enough provision is made for basic accommodation... I mean, they could even build a warehouse and fill it with nothing but beds (and a "bog"...) and it least it would offer a soft place to lie down out of the rain.

[Ammi]

It shouldn't even be an issue - no one should have to sleep in a doorway in the first place. It really is a disgrace. Nowhere near enough provision is made for basic accommodation... I mean, they could even build a warehouse and fill it with nothing but beds (and a "bog"...) and it least it would offer a soft place to lie down out of the rain.

..exactly, that's the issue really..no there shouldn't be people sleeping in doorways at all because the homeless should be provided with a basic shelter/food/toilet facilities etc..it's ridiculous that they aren't and rather than missing the point completely and putting spikes down, the money it cost could have gone toward thinking about actually helping with that...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes but lets stick to reality

companies dont want homeless sleeping in their doorways, just as you or i would not like one in our doorways. They are doing something to alleviate the problem. fact

the social issue is irrelevant

[Ammi]

..it isn't irrelevant, it's even more relevant when it's a company as opposed to a private residence because they obviously had resources spare to do the spikes which could have been used to properly alleviate what they feel is a problem ..so the spikes mean that those homeless people will just move to another company who don't have spikes in their doorways..?...will they all just put spikes in..that's a real solution/well thought out...

[Ammi]

..also if someone falls/trips into that doorway and is hurt on those spikes, their reality will be a very real liability...

[Crimson Dynamo]

..it isn't irrelevant, it's even more relevant when it's a company as opposed to a private residence because they obviously had resources spare to do the spikes which could have been used to properly alleviate what they feel is a problem ..so the spikes mean that those homeless people will just move to another company who don't have spikes in their doorways..?...will they all just put spikes in..that's a real solution/well thought out...

why do they care, they are protecting their business. when you install an alarm on your house you dont think "oh, maybe the burglar will move on to Mrs Baggins down the street who has not got an alarm"

[Toy Soldier]

..also if someone falls/trips into that doorway and is hurt on those spikes, their reality will be a very real liability...

I was thinking that. Arista's "but they probably wouldn't die because the spikes aren't sharp" argument probably wouldn't hold up in court...

Meh. If I was homeless and desperate, I'd just go and headbutt one, then claim compensation from whoever put them in. They are an obvious trip hazard, if nothing else, and then when you DO trip, it's on top of metal studs! Fun!

[Ammi]

why do they care, they are protecting their business. when you install an alarm on your house you dont think "oh, maybe the burglar will move on to Mrs Baggins down the street who has not got an alarm"

..no they don't care, I think that's quite obvious..they've gone to an expense as to not care and the not caring over issues like this is part of what makes them problems in the first place..and there is a huge difference between installing an alarm in your home to deter someone from entering with a negative intent to take your property but that doesn't actually harm anyone as opposed to installing something quite dangerous as they have...tbh I don't see the analogy at all..or another analogy that could be used is how would someone feel who thought the spikes were ok for 'there purpose' if then their child tripped forward onto them and was badly injured..

[Ammi]

I was thinking that. Arista's "but they probably wouldn't die because the spikes aren't sharp" argument probably wouldn't hold up in court...

Meh. If I was homeless and desperate, I'd just go and headbutt one, then claim compensation from whoever put them in. They are an obvious trip hazard, if nothing else, and then when you DO trip, it's on top of metal studs! Fun!

..it's also a bit like how far do you go..?...maybe mantraps..?..yeah, however annoying or however much of a problem it may be to them, these are not solutions..and that's the reality of it...

[Kizzy]

Live on LBC Radio

Nic just said you do not want a Homeless person urinating before
they move on, just as you come out of your flat, in the morning.

See Kizzy
The Bog Issue is Live

Leading Britains conversation? Well their not leading mine! they can take their 'new right' agenda and BOG OFF!

[arista]

I was thinking that. Arista's "but they probably wouldn't die because the spikes aren't sharp" argument probably wouldn't hold up in court...

Meh. If I was homeless and desperate, I'd just go and headbutt one, then claim compensation from whoever put them in. They are an obvious trip hazard, if nothing else, and then when you DO trip, it's on top of metal studs! Fun!


they would Section you

[Benjamin]

Thought this was going to be a thread about hot men who campaign for homeless people :laugh:

[arista]

On the Wright Stuff

they showed a Picture of them outside of Tesco Window

[Kizzy]

On the Wright Stuff

they showed a Picture of them outside of Tesco Window

He can bog off as well....

[Nedusa]

These studs are an absolute disgrace, if you want to deter homeless sleepers then build more houses / shelters.

[Crimson Dynamo]

These studs are an absolute disgrace, if you want to deter homeless sleepers then build more houses / shelters.

Yes I will let that private block of flat know and I guess they can start doing that after the weekend

[Crimson Dynamo]

Have you ever wondered why bus shelters now have a small gap around the bottom?

[Nedusa]

Have you ever wondered why bus shelters now have a small gap around the bottom?

No......why ?

[Crimson Dynamo]

No......why ?

to stop homeless using them for shelter at night

[Nedusa]

to stop homeless using them for shelter at night

Oh..........I thought it was so urine could drain away after being used as a toilet by late night pissheads

[Kizzy]

Up to 300 people will sleep rough on the streets of London tonight, many of them skilled, intelligent and likeable people, and many of whom want to work.

http://www.streetsoflondon.org.uk/about-homelessness

[Northern Monkey]

Spikes? C'mon do we live in medieval times?Why not just put up a wrought iron gate,That's all i did when some little ****s tried breaking into my tool cupboard under my house,Worked a treat.

[King Gizzard]

would like to see the lawsuit when someone falls over onto that

[arista]

would like to see the lawsuit when someone falls over onto that


Yes some would
but there are more important things in life
like getting out of your flat
and smelling Urine

[Z]

I read one criticism of this idea earlier that was along the lines of "how dare they insinuate being homeless is a problem" - err, it is a problem!? People aren't homeless by choice, they're homeless because they have nowhere else to go and no opportunities to fix their own problems. It might seem draconian to put down anti-homeless studs in alcoves and other places where people might try and get protection from the elements but it needs to be done IMO... as long as they have somewhere to go instead!! More needs to be done for homeless people.

[joeysteele]

Yes some would
but there are more important things in life
like getting out of your flat
and smelling Urine

The word homeless means they have no home, going to the toilet is a natural act and also a necessary and vital one. Perhaps that situation could be helped by 'not' closing and also ensuring there are more public toilets for all people to use,not just the homeless.
A bit of right and sensible compassion involved in planning is what's needed.

A neighbour of mine,where I am at present has a bush that is spiky,he was guiding it along his fence to deter people climbing into his garden, he was told and in fact ordered by the local authority to remove the bush as it was considered 'dangerous' and harmful to passers by.
So how on earth can these studs be right and allowed, as a good few have said, what if a child slipped on them,a bang to the head on those could actually be fatal.

So easy to bash the homeless and people genuinely down and out but then to support companies with spare funds who are wasting money on moving problems rather than helping solve them.

Absolute disgrace but then look at the example there is from central Govt.this biggest bunch of 'we don't care about the weak and vulnerable' band of rubbish we have likely ever had running the Nation.

[arista]

I read one criticism of this idea earlier that was along the lines of "how dare they insinuate being homeless is a problem" - err, it is a problem!? People aren't homeless by choice, they're homeless because they have nowhere else to go and no opportunities to fix their own problems. It might seem draconian to put down anti-homeless studs in alcoves and other places where people might try and get protection from the elements but it needs to be done IMO... as long as they have somewhere to go instead!! More needs to be done for homeless people.



At last a Good Young View Point

[arista]

The word homeless means they have no home, going to the toilet is a natural act and also a necessary and vital one. Perhaps that situation could be helped by 'not' closing and also ensuring there are more public toilets for all people to use,not just the homeless.
A bit of right and sensible compassion involved in planning is what's needed.

A neighbour of mine,where I am at present has a bush that is spiky,he was guiding it along his fence to deter people climbing into his garden, he was told and in fact ordered by the local authority to remove the bush as it was considered 'dangerous' and harmful to passers by.
So how on earth can these studs be right and allowed, as a good few have said, what if a child slipped on them,a bang to the head on those could actually be fatal.

So easy to bash the homeless and people genuinely down and out but then to support companies with spare funds who are wasting money on moving problems rather than helping solve them.

Absolute disgrace but then look at the example there is from central Govt.this biggest bunch of 'we don't care about the weak and vulnerable' band of rubbish we have likely ever had running the Nation.


No Joey
there is help
but some Drunk Homeless
are a pain

[Marsh.]

No arista, it's an obvious case of "not on my doorstep" only in this case it's quite literal.

Not providing help in the slightest.

[arista]

No arista, it's an obvious case of "not on my doorstep" only in this case it's quite literal.

Not providing help in the slightest.



Of Course


Katie Hopkins said that on BBC1 London News
a few mins ago

[MTVN]

I read one criticism of this idea earlier that was along the lines of "how dare they insinuate being homeless is a problem" - err, it is a problem!? People aren't homeless by choice, they're homeless because they have nowhere else to go and no opportunities to fix their own problems. It might seem draconian to put down anti-homeless studs in alcoves and other places where people might try and get protection from the elements but it needs to be done IMO... as long as they have somewhere to go instead!! More needs to be done for homeless people.

I agree, that's a point someone was making on Jeremy Vine today how what this really highlights is just how much a problem homelessness is becoming, this is a symptom of that, it isn't meant to be a solution. It might seem cruel but these areas are private property and where people live, it's understandable that they would not want a homeless person sleeping and essentially living on their step. Instead there should be designated areas where people can go or at least have somewhere public available

[joeysteele]

No Joey
there is help
but some Drunk Homeless
are a pain

There is far from help across the board arista with all due respect,more and more organisations that try to help with the homeless are getting less and less as to resources and funds.
Even though there are buildings all over the country lying empty that could even be used temporarily to help with this but it needs investment.
Sadly and in my view disgracefully, particularly the rich companies won't do enough and this present Govt. does almost nothing except for a little lip service.

Also I have to add, never mind the homeless who are drunk,who in the main flop down on a park bench to sleep most of it off unless the Police and others move them on.
I find many other general and far from homeless drunks to be a major pain too at times.

[Vicky.]

Yes some would
but there are more important things in life
like getting out of your flat
and smelling Urine

Again, this will not stop people pissing there?

No idea where you get the idea that homeless people actually piss where they sleep. They would go elsewhere to do that..so if anything, this has made that place more likely to be used as a loo as noone can sleep there anymore :laugh:
I read one criticism of this idea earlier that was along the lines of "how dare they insinuate being homeless is a problem" - err, it is a problem!? People aren't homeless by choice, they're homeless because they have nowhere else to go and no opportunities to fix their own problems. It might seem draconian to put down anti-homeless studs in alcoves and other places where people might try and get protection from the elements but it needs to be done IMO... as long as they have somewhere to go instead!! More needs to be done for homeless people.
Indeed. Especially the bold bit.

[Marsh.]

I'd love to know how these studs prevent people pissing.

[arista]

I agree, that's a point someone was making on Jeremy Vine today how what this really highlights is just how much a problem homelessness is becoming, this is a symptom of that, it isn't meant to be a solution. It might seem cruel but these areas are private property and where people live, it's understandable that they would not want a homeless person sleeping and essentially living on their step. Instead there should be designated areas where people can go or at least have somewhere public available



Bang On Right

[arista]

I'd love to know how these studs prevent people pissing.


The sun reflects in their Eyes

[Vicky.]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/homeless-spikes-row-boris-johnson-calls-for-stupid-spikes-to-be-removed-but-faces-criticism-over-own-record-on-rough-sleepers-9514421.html

Boris Johnson has called for the removal of “stupid” spikes installed outside a London housing development as a deterrent to homeless people – prompting immediate criticism of his own record on people sleeping rough in the capital.

The spikes have been compared to similar measures used to keep pigeons off roofs and statues across London, and criticised in an online petition as “sending [homeless people] the message that they are pests that need to be warded off”.

[Livia]

Boris speaks out against the spikes and of course he is instantly criticised for homeless people on the Streets of London. It's not as if before he was mayor there were no homeless people. The fact is that homeless people flock from all over the country and all over the world to London and their problem becomes London's problem. Actually, it's a national problem and it's the government who should be stepping up. As should the previous government... but they didn't.

[Vicky.]

Yeah I dont think its fair to blame Boris at all tbh

The fact that there are something ridiculous like 600k empty homes in this country whilst people sleep on the streets is a ****ing disgrace IMO.

[Livia]

Couldn't agree more, Vicky. It's bloody shameful. What are we, something like the fifth richest country in the world, and there are people who for one reason or another don't have a door their can close on the world and have a little comfort. And each successive government has done bugger all.

[arista]

Its Not Even Public land


Why are so many trying to get Political on this.

[Toy Soldier]

Yeah I dont think its fair to blame Boris at all tbh

The fact that there are something ridiculous like 600k empty homes in this country whilst people sleep on the streets is a ****ing disgrace IMO.

I actually read fairly recently that there are enough empty homes / buildings in Europe to provide a bedroom for every single homeless person. Which is completely ridiculous, when you think about it.

I've always said that if I became homeless I wouldn't be "homeless". There was a house around the corner from where I lived a few years ago, that was completely empty and seemingly forgotten about. I know that for the two years I was there, at least, no one even glanced at it - the door was overgrown with weeds and had obviously not been opened for several years.

I'd just find somewhere like that and set up a little squat. No one would ever know. In fact you could probably even set up utilities and walk in and out as if you lived there legitimately, and no one would know any different.

[Kizzy]

And out trots the straw man....
Of course it's a problem nationally and has been but have we ever had the withdrawal of premises, funding, staff or resources in this area.... the mental health sector or the rise in the rents in the capital as well as the bedroom tax that has seen so many people evicted from their homes?... No.

[Marsh.]

And out trots the straw man....

:hehe:

[Kizzy]

:hehe:

That poor guy :)


More proof if it were needed that it is recent changes that have forced many out onto the streets....

Hundreds of vulnerable homeless people face being turned out on to the streets amid confusion over how local authorities should interpret a legal ruling which could trigger the closure of emergency night shelters.

Some shelters which rely on housing benefit payments to fund their operations could be forced to shut after a court ruled that they do not legally constitute a dwelling, and so cannot claim the benefit on behalf of shelter users.

One shelter has been forced to shut its doors after Salford council in Greater Manchester said it would no longer accept its housing benefit claims.

The Narrowgate project was giving temporary accommodation to 28 homeless men and women each night. It shut its doors in April after Salford council invoked the ruling and cut off housing benefit payments.'


"I have a sleeping bag, but I've had to sleep in doorways, railway stations, bus stations – anywhere I can. It gets pretty bad out there, pretty depressing'

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/may/15/benfits-rule-closing-night-shelters

[Nedusa]

..exactly, that's the issue really..no there shouldn't be people sleeping in doorways at all because the homeless should be provided with a basic shelter/food/toilet facilities etc..it's ridiculous that they aren't and rather than missing the point completely and putting spikes down, the money it cost could have gone toward thinking about actually helping with that...

I agree......the idea that all homeless people are lazy idle workshy dropouts simply isn't true people become homeless for a variety of reasons, some have mental health or health issues others drug and alcohol addictions.

Many are victims of abuse or ex-con's who cannot get any sort of work.

There are many reasons why people slip through the safety net and end up on the streets. As a caring society we need to do more, to offer more to help these people. we should have far more shelters and homeless Hostels and other schemes that can offer an escape from such a humiliating existance.

We are supposed to be the 4th or 5th largest economy in the world so instead to giving hundreds of millions of pounds away to third world countries with space programs perhaps that money would be better suited to helping the poor and homeless in this country.

[Kizzy]

The cost of putting those spikes down would give a bed to a few people for a couple of nights only wouldn't it? it's not even a sticking plaster solution to the problem it's a blindfold.
Out of sight out of mind, not on my doorstep suburban urban sprawl has no space for blots on the landscape for the homeless.
It's not even care in the community anymore, it's close down your facility and face condemnation in the community.

[arista]

The cost of putting those spikes down would give a bed to a few people for a couple of nights only wouldn't it? it's not even a sticking plaster solution to the problem it's a blindfold.
Out of sight out of mind, not on my doorstep suburban urban sprawl has no space for blots on the landscape for the homeless.
It's not even care in the community anymore, it's close down your facility and face condemnation in the community.


No Kizzy
its a Private Building


Care is there
Some Charitys help the homeless

[Kizzy]

No Kizzy
its a Private Building


Care is there
Some Charitys help the homeless

I know it is... where did I say it wasn't? I wasn't suggesting the business or housing complex or whatever fund any projects.
Did you see my post on the changes to the way the homeless facilities function had changed, and that many are not now viable?
Charities can't help the homeless their hands are tied, in the capital the cost of property is so astronomical how would anyone get funding for a hostel there?

[Kizzy]

These homeless spikes are looking deadlier by the day...imagine falling on these..

Metal spikes designed to prevent homeless people sleeping on the ground have been placed outside a building in Manchester city centre.

The council has condemned the “demeaning” devices at Pall Mall Court, which lies in a semi-sheltered area.

Manchester has seen an increase in rough sleepers, up to 78 in 2016 from 70 the previous year, and 1,600 children were living in temporary accommodation in September 2016.'

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/article_small/public/thumbnails/image/2017/01/28/16/homeless-spikes-manchester.jpg

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/homeless-spikes-manchester-homelessness-rough-sleeping-a7551136.html

[Smithy]

Thought this was gonna be a rihanna unreleased track for a second

[Brillopad]

Anti-homeless studs at London residential block prompt uproar
Critics say spikes treat homeless 'like pigeons' as residents fear short ground spikes at doorway are to deter rough sleepers.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bpd5WxKIgAE5c-j.jpg




Katharine Sacks-Jones, head of policy and campaigns at Crisis, said: "This is happening in a context where rough sleeping has gone up massively. Over the last three years rough sleeping has risen by 36% nationally and by 75% in London. More than 6,400 people slept rough in London last year."

"The reason for that increase is the continuing economic downturn, the housing shortage, and cuts to benefits, particularly housing benefit."

Do you agree with these, or are we treating the homeless worse than we treat animals?

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jun/07/anti-homeless-studs-london-block-uproar
I think we should look after our homeless before taking in more people and giving them homes that could have gone to the homeless. Charity begins at home.