People think that TiBBers are quick to favour black women but...

[Pete.]

... surely the whole ****ing british public are quick to favour Essex people :shrug:

I mean Winston is favourite for doing f all - HOWEVER Essex stereotypes don't do as well on reality tv shows as of yet, Sam Faires came 5th and Joey came 4th.

At least TiBBers favour entertaining people :idc:

[Jemal]

lol

[reece(:]

contrary to popular belief as long as any kind of HM ''brings it" and serves some truth tea/drama then i'll stan unless they're gross/unredeemable.

[Me. I Am Salman]

contrary to popular belief as long as any kind of HM ''brings it" and serves some truth tea/drama then i'll stan unless they're gross/unredeemable.

this
my four favourites last year were all white. (Wolfy, Jemima, Sallie and Dan)

[armand.kay]

contrary to popular belief as long as any kind of HM ''brings it" and serves some truth tea/drama then i'll stan unless they're gross/unredeemable.

.

[Smithy]

this
my four favourites last year were all white. (Wolfy, Jemima, Sallie and Dan)

the latter 3 were all orange, lies spotted

[Marsh.]

The Weave Crew thinking what they find entertaining is the definition. :idc:

So take that tea and choke on it. :hmph:

[chuff me dizzy]

I dont favour Essex people :conf: I dont care what colour someone is I like them for being nice, normal,entertaining

[BBDodge]

Alex BB3 and Dan BB14 were from Essex and they were great housemates.

Wherever Winston came from he'd a be a crap housemate.

[Vicky.]

I don't think its tibbers..its a certain group of members who always always always seem to stan for the sassy black girl. Obviously its their choice and all, but its quite predictable :p

Its almost as predictable as MTVN picking the one everyone hates as his fave :whistle:

[reece(:]

I don't think its tibbers..its a certain group of members who always always always seem to stan for the sassy black girl. Obviously its their choice and all, but its quite predictable :p

Its almost as predictable as MTVN picking the one everyone hates as his fave :whistle:

Just as predictable as those who stan for the ladz? :laugh:

[Vicky.]

Pretty much yeah

[chuff me dizzy]

I don't think its tibbers..its a certain group of members who always always always seem to stan for the sassy black girl. Obviously its their choice and all, but its quite predictable :p

Its almost as predictable as MTVN picking the one everyone hates as his fave :whistle:

I usually like someone no one else likes too :joker: but this year ive no clear fav yet, quite like Marlon,Toya,and like Jale, Chris because they are being pushed out, but no clear fav

[Vanessa]

He's really nice, but what has he done, apart from flirting with Tamera? :conf:

[Marsh.]

It still surprises me when people have favourites so soon.

I liked Pauline at the beginning, quite liking Jale now but I don't start to have favourites until a few weeks have passed and we've seen more from them all.

That's if the battle of the northern accents doesn't hog all the attention.

[Marc]

I find the whole stanning because they're black annoying but I think Toya is brilliant :love: she's so normal and funny

[chuff me dizzy]

I find the whole stanning because they're black annoying but I think Toya is brilliant :love: she's so normal and funny

Yes shes normal and nice

[chuff me dizzy]

It still surprises me when people have favourites so soon.

I liked Pauline at the beginning, quite liking Jale now but I don't start to have favourites until a few weeks have passed and we've seen more from them all.

That's if the battle of the northern accents doesn't hog all the attention.

You cant beat a Northern accent ,but Marks is now grating on my very last nerve

[Vanessa]

Yes shes normal and nice

I like her as well. The only female who is even remotely normal.

[chuff me dizzy]

I like her as well. The only female who is even remotely normal.

I think Jale is normal too ,and I support her as she being picked on by the mob

[Vanessa]

I think Jale is normal too ,and I support her as she being picked on by the mob

I don't like her. Seems a bit too paranoid to me.

[Cherie]

I don't think its tibbers..its a certain group of members who always always always seem to stan for the sassy black girl. Obviously its their choice and all, but its quite predictable :p

Its almost as predictable as MTVN picking the one everyone hates as his fave :whistle:

ain't that the truth

[Vanessa]

I don't think its tibbers..its a certain group of members who always always always seem to stan for the sassy black girl. Obviously its their choice and all, but its quite predictable :p

Its almost as predictable as MTVN picking the one everyone hates as his fave :whistle:

I think Toya is great as well. Has potential.

[chuff me dizzy]

I don't like her. Seems a bit too paranoid to me.

No wonder ,poor cows getting ignored and insulted by that horrible lot :cloud:

[Jemal]

I support the housemates i acc like and have a reason for.
Some people just support housemates cause other people do or because their popular.
They don't acc have a valid reason as to why they do.

[Vanessa]

No wonder ,poor cows getting ignored and insulted by that horrible lot :cloud:

Yes, but Chris is handling it a lot better. I think the group is warming to him.

[Headie]

Let us like whoever the **** we wanna like, is what I say.

[Vanessa]

Let us like whoever the **** we wanna like, is what I say.

Hopefully she'll be another Makosi. :flutter:

[Josy]

I don't think its tibbers..its a certain group of members who always always always seem to stan for the sassy black girl. Obviously its their choice and all, but its quite predictable :p

Its almost as predictable as MTVN picking the one everyone hates as his fave :whistle:

Vicky spilling the tea all over the thread. :smug:

[armand.kay]

Personally I've never stanned for someone just because they are black. I only have 3 black girl faves. Toya, jale and Pauline's vt's were the most interesting compared to the other housemates imo. I could always argue that some people don't like certain housemates because they're black girls.

[Vanessa]

I think a good housemate will be liked, no matter what her colour is. I find Toya interesting. She seems quite funny as well.

[Vanessa]

Personally I've never stabbed for someone just because they are black. I only have 3 black girl faves. Toya, jale and Pauline's vt's were the most interesting compared to the other housemates imo. I could always argue that some people don't like certain housemates because they're black girls.

:worship::worship::worship:

[Marsh.]

Personally I've never stabbed for someone just because they are black.

D:

[armand.kay]

I'm not even stanning that hard for toya I'm stanning more for madd Mary atm.

[Vicky.]

Personally I've never stabbed for someone just because they are black. I only have 3 black girl faves. Toya, jale and Pauline's vt's were the most interesting compared to the other housemates imo. I could always argue that some people don't like certain housemates because they're black girls.

I should bloody hope not too D:

Also (especially on here) your last sentence would be extremely unlikely given that Makosi was the fave of 90% of the people on here :tongue:

[Cherie]

No idea why anyone would favour a housemate because of their colour, but each to their own.

[Josy]

****sake Armand wants to go around stabbing people now. It's only BB, don't get so mad :idc:

[Marsh.]

You cant beat a Northern accent ,but Marks is now grating on my very last nerve

Why thank you, I have a northern accent myself. :smug:

[Heaven = Winner]

I mean I know this doesn't apply to me, mostly because I barely post on here, but also because I've got two white women in my top three (Carol McGiffin and Liz Jones; behind Makosi Musambasi) as my all-time faves.

http://i.minus.com/iJ0DG4qdAxClz.gif

[Sophiee]

I find there's a very different divide between the internet and offline. the internet supports these 'entertaining' characters but 9 times out of 10 they never win.

I should bloody hope not too D:
:laugh2:

[Jemal]

If i was to ask 70% of people on here why they support a particular housemate they would be speechless.

[Cherie]

Why thank you, I have a northern accent myself. :smug:

Morsh flirting with Chuff.

[armand.kay]

D:

I should bloody hope not too D:

Also (especially on here) your last sentence would be extremely unlikely given that Makosi was the fave of 90% of the people on here :tongue:

:mooriah: Auto correct.

[Marsh.]

Morsh flirting with Chuff.

When I've finished she will be chuffed. :smug:

[Macie Lightfoot]

I could always argue that some people don't like certain housemates because they're black girls.

ie the Great British public

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4691/blacksbv.jpg

[Vanessa]

Let us like whoever the **** we wanna like, is what I say.

Your sig! She made me laugh so much that day. :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

Hopefully she'll be another Makosi. :flutter:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Nessa :shocked::shocked::shocked:,she was in my top 5 worst housemates ever ,the woman was a true, vile cow

[Vanessa]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Nessa :shocked::shocked::shocked:,she was in my top 5 worst housemates ever ,the woman was a true, vile cow

She was so entertaining though. :tongue:

[chuff me dizzy]

Why thank you, I have a northern accent myself. :smug:

Me too ,cant beat it !!!! HATE southern accents

[chuff me dizzy]

She was so entertaining though. :tongue:

Not many people i hate, but God I hated her

[Marsh.]

ie the Great British public

:conf: Or the majority of the black girls they put in are of the argumentative/confrontational kind.

[Cherie]

ie the Great British public

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4691/blacksbv.jpg


Not sure what your point is, aren't they equally horrible about the white HMs????

[Vicky.]

:conf: Or the majority of the black girls they put in are of the argumentative/confrontational kind.

Yeah I would agree with this generally

However the one main exception to this that stands out was Allison BB3...such a lovely girl. Was so gutted when she went :bored:

[chuff me dizzy]

Not sure what your point is, aren't they equally horrible about the white HMs????

Who the hell has put "The black Diana " on Makosis photo ?

[Josy]

That pic above is actually being horrible about most of the people on it..

[smeagol]

i find it strange that if someone is black some people suddenly love them before they even speak lol also the same with jack the lad types . dont get that either.
me i just like who i like they could be orcs for all i care,

[Macie Lightfoot]

:conf: Or the majority of the black girls they put in are of the argumentative/confrontational kind.

Yeah but it's the black girls who are always quick to be labeled as argumentative or confrontational or aggressive. Marcus was also very aggressive you hardly see him being called that.

Not sure what your point is, aren't they equally horrible about the white HMs????

White people have had it so tough historically, they only won 13/14 series :(

[chuff me dizzy]

Yeah I would agree with this generally

However the one main exception to this that stands out was Allison BB3...such a lovely girl. Was so gutted when she went :bored:

Amazing lass ,one of my fav BB moments her going through table ,but shes done well for herself out of BB and she deserved to

[chuff me dizzy]

Yeah but it's the black girls who are always quick to be labeled as argumentative or confrontational or aggressive. Marcus was also very aggressive you hardly see him being called that.



White people have had it so tough historically, they only won 13/14 series :(

Because they usually are

[reece(:]

one of my fav BB moments her going through table

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Marsh.]

Yeah I would agree with this generally

However the one main exception to this that stands out was Allison BB3...such a lovely girl. Was so gutted when she went :bored:

I loved Allison. :love:

She's one of the few who secured a real longterm career out of BB. She's still on This Morning.

[chuff me dizzy]

I loved Allison. :love:

She's one of the few who secured a real longterm career out of BB. She's still on This Morning.

Not watched that for years, but she did well because she was NICE

[Macie Lightfoot]

Because they usually are

Like I said, Marcus is also quite aggressive but he hardly gets labeled as such. It's easy for the public to tar black girls with a bunch of negative adjectives and say "well maybe they should've been more likable :shrug:"

[Marc]

ie the Great British public

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4691/blacksbv.jpg

OMG respect the dead </3

[Vanessa]

I liked Allison, but that year Alex Sibley was my favourite. I still remember that little dance he did. So funny. :joker:

[Marsh.]

Yeah but it's the black girls who are always quick to be labeled as argumentative or confrontational or aggressive. Marcus was also very aggressive you hardly see him being called that.


White people have had it so tough historically, they only won 13/14 series :(

Well when white people are the majority in this country and in the house then it's not really surprising.

It's like wondering why there's so few white winners on BB Africa.

Plenty white housemates have been called out on their bull, the black ones who get called out usually deserve it.

Marcus? I don't remember that housemate. But one white housemate in comparison doesn't make racism.

[chuff me dizzy]

Like I said, Marcus is also quite aggressive but he hardly gets labeled as such. It's easy for the public to tar black girls with a bunch of negative adjectives and say "well maybe they should've been more likable :shrug:"

Yes he was no Saint,but its the women i have a problem with ,they seem to have a bad attitude on BB

[Cherie]

Yeah but it's the black girls who are always quick to be labeled as argumentative or confrontational or aggressive. Marcus was also very aggressive you hardly see him being called that.



White people have had it so tough historically, they only won 13/14 series :(


So? the percentage of white to black is high so it makes sense for more white winners and what difference does it make what colour the winner is?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Well when white people are the majority in this country and in the house then it's not really surprising.

It's like wondering why there's so few white winners on BB Africa.

Plenty white housemates have been called out on their bull, the black ones who get called out usually deserve it.

Marcus? I don't remember that housemate.

Yeah you're right, Rachel Ifon and Jo Butler were truly awful, the spawns of Satan :( they had it coming!!!1

What white housemates have been called out on their bull? You said plenty have so I'll be interested in seeing who you can come up with, especially if you don't remember Marcus.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Yes he was no Saint,but its the women i have a problem with ,they seem to have a bad attitude on BB

So you're basically admitting to being sexist.

So? the percentage of white to black is high so it makes sense for more white winners and what difference does it make what colour the winner is?

I was just saying that you said the public is equally horrible about white HMs and that's not true at all. Especially looking at the statistics.

[Marsh.]

Yeah you're right, Rachel Ifon and Jo Butler were truly awful, the spawns of Satan :( they had it coming!!!1

You seem to be arguing for the sake of it.

When were those 3 housemates labelled confrontational?
From what I remember Ife always stood her ground and could scream her head off but Rachel and Jo were more likeable, nice housemates.


What white housemates have been called out on their bull? You said plenty have so I'll be interested in seeing who you can come up with, especially if you don't remember Marcus.

Google tells me Marcus BB10? I didn't really pay attention to much of that series as it was sh*te so I can't remember enough.

Most white housemates are called out. Just as Helen, Danielle, Tamara and Mark are currently being called out on their bitching. Hazel, Sallie, Sophie from last year. I could go on for pages.

[armand.kay]

Shievonne had one bad week and she left to booes. Conor was a dick for his stay and he left to roaring cheers. Just saying.

[Verbal]

WTF is this 'stan' thing?

[Cherie]

Shievonne had one bad week and she left to booes. Conor was a dick for his stay and he left to roaring cheers. Just saying.

I'd say that has more to do with male v female acceptance of behaviour thing than colour???

[Vanessa]

0zcLVlwJAm8 :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

You seem to be arguing for the sake of it.

When were those 3 housemates labelled confrontational?
From what I remember Ife always stood her ground and could scream her head off but Rachel and Jo were more likeable, nice housemates.

Actually that's what you seem to be doing. And riddle me this, if Rachel and Jo were likable and nice why on earth where they evicted overwhelmingly against a bunch of deplorable HMs in a vote to evict?

Google tells me Marcus BB10? I didn't really pay attention to much of that series as it was sh*te so I can't remember enough.

Most white housemates are called out. Just as Helen, Danielle, Tamara and Mark are currently being called out on their bitching. Hazel, Sallie, Sophie from last year. I could go on for pages.

Mark clearly isn't white and idk what Tamara and Sophie have been called out on.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'd say that has more to do with male v female acceptance of behaviour thing than colour???

Gender roles play hugely obviously, but there's been very, very few times a black girl survived an eviction.

[Roy Mars III]

blame casting for continuing to cast terrible black females

not the public's fault for the most part every black female has been totally unlikeable

[Marsh.]

Actually that's what you seem to be doing. And riddle me this, if Rachel and Jo were likable and nice why on earth where they evicted overwhelmingly against a bunch of deplorable HMs in a vote to evict?


I don't remember why they were evicted. The series was four years ago.

We are discussing confrontational and aggressive housemates. What I do remember is that Rachel, Ife and Jo were not labelled those things and were not evicted for being bitches. We're talking about people who are labelled bitchy and aggressive not listing reasons as to why every black housemate on Big Brother was evicted.

Tamara is called out all over this forum for being bitchy, trying to start a showmance and Sophie was wallpaper for most of BB14 before the final few weeks when she was hated for sh*t stirring between Gina, Hazel and Charlie.

[Marsh.]

Not watched that for years, but she did well because she was NICE

Yeah, but nice or not, there aren't many who've done that. Most are flash in the pan.

[Vanessa]

Yeah, but nice or not, there aren't many who've done that. Most are flash in the pan.

Allison was great.

[Headie]

She was so entertaining though. :tongue:

Omg yes Vanessa! Didn't know you liked Makosi! :amazed :

[Headie]

:conf: Or the majority of the black girls they put in are of the argumentative/confrontational kind.

This is true tbh. Although Ife getting evicted with over 50% of votes in a 3-way eviction despite being invisible the whole series made me think twice about that theory :joker:

That's why I like the black girls though, they rarely ever fail to bring the drama

[Macie Lightfoot]

blame casting for continuing to cast terrible black females

not the public's fault for the most part every black female has been totally unlikeable

:rolleyes: yes, the casual public had so many reasons to hate Melanie and Alison and Anouska and Vanessa and Rachael and Ife and Rachel and Jo and Heaven and the others :joker: give me a break

I don't remember why they were evicted. The series was four years ago.

We are discussing confrontational and aggressive housemates. What I do remember is that Rachel, Ife and Jo were not labelled those things and were not evicted for being bitches. We're talking about people who are labelled bitchy and aggressive not listing reasons as to why every black housemate on Big Brother was evicted.

Tamara is called out all over this forum for being bitchy, trying to start a showmance and Sophie was wallpaper for most of BB14 before the final few weeks when she was hated for sh*t stirring between Gina, Hazel and Charlie.

Then I don't think you're at much liberty to discuss patterns of the voting public?

And no, we are discussing black girls and the casual racism of the voting public. You said that most of the black girls were confrontational land aggressive and I pointed out that a bunch weren't. You clearly ran out of anything substantial to say (surprise) and are trying to change the topic to confrontational and aggressive HMs but the real subject at hand is black girls.

Tamara's being called out for having the least potential out of the nominees and is getting some flak for being Helen's friend, that's it. And your revisionist history on Sophie is quite compelling fan fiction, I must say.

[Me. I Am Salman]

I don't think black girls get a bad rap in particular by the gp, it's women on a whole

there has definitely been a hint of racism with the crowd reactions in the past though. like hira getting booed upon entered the house

[Roy Mars III]

:rolleyes: yes, the casual public had so many reasons to hate Melanie and Alison and Anouska and Vanessa and Rachael and Ife and Rachel and Jo and Heaven and the others :joker: give me a break



None of the women you named (besides Rachael) were likeable.

[Macie Lightfoot]

None of the women you named (besides Rachael) were likeable.

newflash: the people they were nominated against weren't likable either

[Roy Mars III]

newflash: the people they were nominated against weren't likable either

don't remember every eviction, but I can guarantee that 80% of the time the other people were more likable than them.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Let's see you guarantee it then :joker: even though you can't remember like Marsh

[Roy Mars III]

Let's see you guarantee it then :joker: even though you can't remember like Marsh

go look up the evictions and then I'll answer your question

[Macie Lightfoot]

Maybe you should look them up since your memory needs to be refreshed anyway.

[Marsh.]

Except Alison wasn't hated. You're equating eviction with hate.

Plenty housemates are evicted because they're evicted over who they're head to head with.

I don't remember daft minor details but I do remember Alison, Ife, Rachel, Jo weren't hated. They were just inoffensive and stifled by bigger characters in the house.

And now you're getting all pissy about my posts making little comments because you've took the thread off topic.

We WERE discussing why most black women on BB are labelled aggressive, NOT why each and every one of them were evicted.

You're now trying to say people like Melanie from BB1 was labelled aggressive and hated because she was black? Or was it because Mel was a mega-flirt and didn't endear herself to the public? I don't recall her being called aggressive.

[Marsh.]

Also, there is no revisionist history on Sophie.

This forum didn't like her at all in her sh*t stirring final 2 weeks and she was evicted instead of Gina of all people.

[Vanessa]

Omg yes Vanessa! Didn't know you liked Makosi! :amazed :

She was one of my favourites that year. I so wanted her to win! :flutter:

[Northern Monkey]

Really?Do people think that about TIBBers?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Except Alison wasn't hated. You're equating eviction with hate.

Plenty housemates are evicted because they're evicted over who they're head to head with.

I don't remember daft minor details but I do remember Alison, Ife, Rachel, Jo weren't hated. They were just inoffensive and stifled by bigger characters in the house.

And now you're getting all pissy about my posts making little comments because you've took the thread off topic.

We WERE discussing why most black women on BB are labelled aggressive, NOT why each and every one of them were evicted.

You're now trying to say people like Melanie from BB1 was labelled aggressive and hated because she was black? Or was it because Mel was a mega-flirt and didn't endear herself to the public? I don't recall her being called aggressive.

Someone who's viewed inoffensive doesn't get destroyed in a vote to evict. Ife had 56.5% against two others, Rachel had 58.5% against two others (the vile John James and Dave at that), and Jo had 39.4% against three others. Rachel and Jo were against all white men too.

I didn't take the thread off topic at all. It's about black women and someone made the point that some people are quick to not like them. And now we're having this discussion.

Yes, Melanie was a mega flirt because she kissed two guys and was single. Meanwhile, Claire had a boyfriend of nine years and the public was pushing for her and Craig to become a thing.

Also, there is no revisionist history on Sophie.

This forum didn't like her at all in her sh*t stirring final 2 weeks and she was evicted instead of Gina of all people.

Maybe YOU didn't like Sophie because she "**** stirred," the forum couldn't give enough of a **** about her. It's complete revisionist history on your part.

[Marsh.]

Someone who's viewed inoffensive doesn't get destroyed in a vote to evict. Ife had 56.5% against two others, Rachel had 58.5% against two others (the vile John James and Dave at that), and Jo had 39.4% against three others. Rachel and Jo were against all white men too.

I didn't take the thread off topic at all. It's about black women and someone made the point that some people are quick to not like them. And now we're having this discussion.

Yes, Melanie was a mega flirt because she kissed two guys and was single. Meanwhile, Claire had a boyfriend of nine years and the public was pushing for her and Craig to become a thing.

1) Our original point was about why black housemates are labelled aggressive. The housemates you brought into discussion were not aggressive and were never labelled as such.

2) If you want to discuss why they were evicted then that's an entire separate discussion and probably requires rewatching a series. Simply saying "a black girl lost against 3 white people in a vote to evict therefore the British public are exerting casual racism" is simply not enough.

3) Were Claire and Mel treated differently? I'm afraid you're going to have to present something more substantial if you wish to use this as an example of racism. My memory is telling me Claire wasn't very popular either, was evicted before Mel.

Her eviction doesn't say much, she survived eviction against 3 other white housemates and then lost when she faced 2 of the most popular in the series - Darren and Craig. Craig going onto win it.


Maybe YOU didn't like Sophie because she "**** stirred," the forum couldn't give enough of a **** about her. It's complete revisionist history on your part.

:joker: And how many episode discussions were you here for last year?

I know what discussions I took part in on this very forum. Please don't accuse me of making things up.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Additional instances of racism...

-Sylvia in VT: I'm a refugee from Sierra Leone who's been through a lot but I don't let it get me down
Audience: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

-Hira: I'm from Pakistan and have only been here for a year but life is so much better here and I can do so much more and I'm so grateful :tears: ^_^
Audience: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

-Shilpa STILL getting 18% of the vote to evict against Jade after an international racism affair LIKE WTF

[Marsh.]

Shilpa getting 18% in a vote to evict is racism?

I think we'll end the discussion there. Thanks for the discussion troy. :)

[Vicky.]

Closing this as its gone quite offtopic and is now just pretty much identical to the loads of other 'the public are racist' threads