I'm going to knock her out

[Josy]

Said that about Danielle when she went back outside.

She will probably get another warning for that rounding them up to 15, how much longer til her pass is revoked? :think:

[MeMyselfAndI]

She is such a chav

[Vanessa]

Good thing she has immunity or she'd be out already. :joker:

[smeagol]

if a guy said that he'd be warned or out. that free pass is wrong she is getting away with eevrything.

[Drew.]

This was one of the worst things said tonight but hardly anything was said about it.. everything else said was just immature insults but she took it a step too far with this threat.

[andybigbro]

Get her out!!!

[jackc1806]

She was really aggressive tbh

[reece(:]

if a guy said that he'd be warned or out. that free pass is wrong she is getting away with eevrything.
different context

[InOne]

Helen is a beast. Thought she might be okay before she went in. Great HM though

[erinp5]

Bang out of order she hasn't been warned .
I feel I have been rolling in the gutter after listening to her .

[Josy]

different context

Why?

[Videostar]

14 warnings...that we know of.

[Novo]

I hope she does, a right hook right on her nose

[Samm]

lmao, she got a pass to the final but she has a strong chance at being ejected

[Cherie]

Bang out of order she hasn't been warned .
I feel I have been rolling in the gutter after listening to her .

She is the sort you would cross the street to avoid walking past isn't she, can anyone enlighten me as to why Pauline gave her the free pass

[smeagol]

different context

??

[SocietyIsRuined]

The only good thing Pauline has done is give her immunity. A whole season of this idiot being in Big Brother will make this a classic series. If a brain is in there then it is defunct, thank god.

[Jake.]

Conor makes the same threat and the forum goes into meltdown saying he should be ejected, but it's different with Helen because people find her more entertaining? Nah, **** that, it's a disgusting thing to say, male or female.

[Vanessa]

The only good thing Pauline has done is give her immunity. A whole season of this idiot being in Big Brother will make this a classic series. If a brain is in there then it is defunct, thank god.

If she doesn't get thrown out. :laugh:

[seanraff07]

Conor makes the same threat and the forum goes into meltdown saying he should be ejected, but it's different with Helen because people find her more entertaining? Nah, **** that, it's a disgusting thing to say.

Conor was a horrible ****, absolutely despised him. Helen is going the same way though

[Northern Monkey]

I don't like her as a person but she MUST stay,She is great TV!

[MeMyselfAndI]

Conor makes the same threat and the forum goes into meltdown saying he should be ejected, but it's different with Helen because people find her more entertaining? Nah, **** that, it's a disgusting thing to say.

I agree, shes an awful homewrecker by definition

[reece(:]

Why?
She obviously said it heat of the moment, like she did with fat bitch and shagging Jesus etc

would be different if someone like Steven said it about Danielle

[reece(:]

Conor makes the same threat and the forum goes into meltdown saying he should be ejected, but it's different with Helen because people find her more entertaining? Nah, **** that, it's a disgusting thing to say, male or female.
Conor made a sick rap/rant which wasn't really heat of the moment, cannot see the comparison myself

[Daniel.]

Conor makes the same threat and the forum goes into meltdown saying he should be ejected, but it's different with Helen because people find her more entertaining? Nah, **** that, it's a disgusting thing to say.

Helen only said 'I wanna knock her out' whilst Conor threatened to shove an epilator up a woman's vagina and punch her straight out. Helen's was in the heat of the moment whilst Conor's wasn't.

Aisleyne said the same thing about Grace in BB7 and she's loved, Conor's was far worse.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Everything Danielle said about Helen was so true

[smudgie]

She should have her pass to the final revoked.

Such a charmer.

[hannah.]

Please can someone tell me what the other warnings were for? x

[Josy]

She obviously said it heat of the moment, like she did with fat bitch and shagging Jesus etc

would be different if someone like Steven said it about Danielle

This makes no sense at all. So if someone else said it, it would be different but it's alright for Helen.

That's a lot of crap Reece and you know it :laugh:

[Josy]

Please can someone tell me what the other warnings were for? x

No one knows

[HD]

Shame she didn't

[reece(:]

Helen only said 'I wanna knock her out' whilst Conor threatened to shove an epilator up a woman's vagina and punch her straight out. Helen's was in the heat of the moment whilst Conor's wasn't.

Aisleyne said the same thing about Grace in BB7 and she's loved, Conor's was far worse.
this, watch an eppy of Bad Girls Club then make this out to be serious

[Jake.]

Please can someone tell me what the other warnings were for? x

Probably for naming the footballers she's shagged

[reece(:]

This makes no sense at all. So if someone else said it, it would be different but it's alright for Helen.

That's a lot of crap Reece and you know it :laugh:
No, if a male said it... girls get catty all the time with each other.

[hannah.]

No one knows

Oh, how odd....

How do we know there are 14?

[Calderyon]

If she continues to break rules and get warnings, she might have her pass taken away and maybe even put to eviction.

It has happened before.

[smeagol]

She obviously said it heat of the moment, like she did with fat bitch and shagging Jesus etc

would be different if someone like Steven said it about Danielle

a threat is a threat. and chav hoe like her is much more likely to deck danielle than a guy would anybody.
if guy said that in any contex they would fo called him to the diary room straight away

[Drew.]

Conor makes the same threat and the forum goes into meltdown saying he should be ejected, but it's different with Helen because people find her more entertaining? Nah, **** that, it's a disgusting thing to say, male or female.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrech7SQPj1qiz3j8o1_500.gif

[Josy]

No, if a male said it... girls get catty all the time with each other.

It makes no difference at all a threat of violence is a threat no matter what.

[Jemal]

No one knows

:joker:

[Jake.]

Helen only said 'I wanna knock her out' whilst Conor threatened to shove an epilator up a woman's vagina and punch her straight out. Helen's was in the heat of the moment whilst Conor's wasn't.

Aisleyne said the same thing about Grace in BB7 and she's loved, Conor's was far worse.

I agree the epilator thing made it worse, but the same threat was made. It's a nasty threat to make, male or female, heat or no heat.

[Marsh.]

I wouldn't take it too seriously. People say things like that all the time.

I say "I'll kill him/her" quite often, it's heat of the moment, not literal.

Also, are these "14 warnings" confirmed? Doesn't sound very likely to me.

Even Kitten the twat didn't get as many as that.

[GiRTh]

Its a threatening comment. She has to be punished

[Jemal]

No, if a male said it... girls get catty all the time with each other.

lol

[Josy]

Oh, how odd....

How do we know there are 14?

Someone posted a newspaper article quoting Helen talking about the warnings.

[Jake.]

No, if a male said it... girls get catty all the time with each other.

Spread that sexism

[reece(:]

Spread that sexism
Watch an eppy of Bad Girls Club then come back

[Jake.]

Watch an eppy of Bad Girls Club then come back

No, I don't need to watch any 'eppy' to understand morals

[Jemal]

Im acc confused now lol.
For a world that talks about gender eqaulity an awful lot, why is it still different if a male says ill knock you out to if a girl says it..

[Adamw92]

She should have her pass to the final revoked.

Such a charmer.

Only fair with all the warnings she's been getting.

[Vanessa]

14 warnings? Is that some kind of record? :eek:

[Jake.]

Im acc confused now lol.
For a world that talks about gender eqaulity an awful lot, why is it still different if a male says ill knock you out to if a girl says it..

Couldn't agree more

[Daniel.]

How OTT though, people say things like that all the time?

I'm not even a Helen fan but I thought nothing of the comment, loads of people say stuff like that when angry.

[Jake.]

14 warnings? Is that some kind of record? :eek:

Being a loud mouthed wanker has its shortcomings

[Josy]

How OTT though, people say things like that all the time?

I'm not even a Helen fan but I thought nothing of the comment, loads of people say stuff like that when angry.

Yeah they do.

In BB though they usually warn them for that no matter who says it.

[InOne]

Yeah they do.

In BB though they usually warn them for that no matter who says it.

She probably will be warned.

[reece(:]

How OTT though, people say things like that all the time?

I'm not even a Helen fan but I thought nothing of the comment, loads of people say stuff like that when angry.
imo it's totally different for a man to threaten violence to a woman than a woman bitching out at the heat of the moment following a cat fight. :shrug:

[fitz2k2]

no warning?

[Daniel.]

imo it's totally different for a man to threaten violence to a woman than a woman bitching out at the heat of the moment following a cat fight. :shrug:

Yes 100%, I thought some of the insult related looks were worse anyway than that throwaway comment.

She probably did get a warning for it anyway

[Firewire]

um it is completely different if a man says it to a woman that is the truth

[Sophiee]

I'm guessing she got a warning about this. she definitely crossed the line with some of her comments but I still found her rant hilarious.

[Jemal]

lol smfh.

[Josy]

Why on earth is it different for a man to say it?.

If either a man or woman carried out the threat and 'knocked her out' it would have the same outcome?

:facepalm:

[Jemal]

Why on earth is it different for a man to say it?.

If either a man or woman carried out the threat and 'knocked her out' it would have the same outcome?

:facepalm:

This is just it.

Fml if its different for a man to say ill knock you out then **** gender equality then lol.

[Me. I Am Salman]

um it is completely different if a man says it to a woman that is the truth

this.

[Me. I Am Salman]

when I say that I just mean it's far worse

I do think Helen was out of line for saying what she said

[smeagol]

helen is your typical trashy dog you see ona friday night fightning with some girl over somethign stupid and being dragged of in a police car.

to say what she says means nothing is madness. when a guy cant say it there is soemthing wrong

too many one sided rules liek mocking her religion if she was muslim omg there'd be war

[ruiphillips]

Low-class rat tbh

[MeMyselfAndI]

I cant deal with this hypocrisy

[Jake.]

We live in 2014, people want equal rights, men should be able to do the same as women and vice versa. Men want to wear pink, women want to be builders etc which is brilliant. So then why is a womans threat any different from a mans?

[Jemal]

We live in 2014, people want equal rights, men should be able to do the same as women and vice versa. Men want to wear pink, women want to be builders etc which is brilliant. So then why is a womans threat any different from a mans?

Jake finished it. This is just it.
/thread

[Drew.]

We live in 2014, people want equal rights, men should be able to do the same as women and vice versa. Men want to wear pink, women want to be builders etc which is brilliant. So then why is a womans threat any different from a mans?

Because Helens their favourite, simple.

[MeMyselfAndI]

I completely agree jake

[armand.kay]

Danni will kill her she has the power of the heavens and Jesus Christ with her. Helen has the crabs she got from Roony and Tamara. It's pretty obvious Helen will get demolished by danni.

[armand.kay]

Wait how does Helen already have 14 warnings?

[Cal.]

Wasn't she over-exaggerating with the 14 warnings?

[Jake.]

If two prisoners escape from prison, one female and another male, and they both threaten to stab another person, would one be taken less seriously?

[Daniel.]

Helen isn't my fave though, I just think it was such a throwaway comment that meant nothing really. As I said, Aisleyne said it about Grace in BB7 and Makosi threeatened to slap Orlaith in BB6 and they are two of the most loved housemates??

[MTVN]

I don't see why it being said in the heat of moment makes it better really, if anything it makes it more serious because you're more likely to follow through with threats in the heat of the moment. Never did defend what Conor said but that was just a stupid rap which was clearly ridiculous and he was just trying to show off to the others

[MeMyselfAndI]

Stop trying to justify what Conor said ffs

[Daniel.]

I don't see why it being said in the heat of moment makes it better really, if anything it makes it more serious because you're more likely to follow through with threats in the heat of the moment. Never did defend what Conor said but that was just a stupid rap which was clearly ridiculous and he was just trying to show off to the others

Not really because he admitted he was angry in the diary room later. Nothing but scum, really.

[Vicky.]

We live in 2014, people want equal rights, men should be able to do the same as women and vice versa. Men want to wear pink, women want to be builders etc which is brilliant. So then why is a womans threat any different from a mans?

This tbh

Also Helen is quite like a bloke anyway. The way she speaks and behaves at least :laugh:

(I am aware that that in itself is a sexist/stereotyping comment :idc: )

[Jake.]

Not really because he admitted he was angry in the diary room later. Nothing but scum, really.

Just like Helen was angry? Really don't see what you're getting at. Conor's rant was disgusting but that doesn't justify what Helen said.

[Marsh.]

I don't see why it being said in the heat of moment makes it better really, if anything it makes it more serious because you're more likely to follow through with threats in the heat of the moment. Never did defend what Conor said but that was just a stupid rap which was clearly ridiculous and he was just trying to show off to the others

Not really. I'd say the majority of people come out with "I'll kill her" "I could knock her out" and other similar sayings when angry or confronted. That doesn't make someone violent.

Is Helen has a tendency to get violent then it's a different story but simply coming out with a phrase like that isn't enough really.

[MTVN]

Stop trying to justify what Conor said ffs

How did I do that, or how was my comment any more of a justification than any of the comments made in defence of Helen. There's a massive difference between explaining something and justifying it, don't think anyone is trying to justify Helen's comment either but they are trying to explain it. Both were stupid things to say and that should be acknowledged but in different situations; Helen's as part of a raging row where she wouldn't have been thinking that clearly, Conor's as part of a group bitching session where he obviously took it too far in trying to show off to the others

[Daniel.]

Just like Helen was angry? Really don't see what you're getting at. Conor's rant was disgusting but that doesn't justify what Helen said.

I was just replying to MTVN's post about Conor.

With Helen, it was a throwaway comment, a few words and that's that, I just don't see the big deal. :shrug: she shouldn't have said it but I really don't think it was that bad.

[Firewire]

i want a fist fight

[Black Dagger]

Vulgar chav.

Mancs always have **** representation, send me and Annie in to sort it out :idc:

[Me. I Am Salman]

We live in 2014, people want equal rights, men should be able to do the same as women and vice versa. Men want to wear pink, women want to be builders etc which is brilliant. So then why is a womans threat any different from a mans?

I don't get the Conor comparisons. What he said was actually disturbing. The manner in which he said it was far different. Deana was being octracized that entire episode when she did nothing wrong, and it felt extremely uncomfortable to watch.

What Helen said on the other hand was a throwaway comment after an argument with Danielle where both gave as good as they got. Still, I agree it was out of line for her to say but it's tame in comparison to Conor's threats. I'm far more of a fan of Danielle so this is in no way a biased opinion.

[Me. I Am Salman]

I don't see why it being said in the heat of moment makes it better really, if anything it makes it more serious because you're more likely to follow through with threats in the heat of the moment. Never did defend what Conor said but that was just a stupid rap which was clearly ridiculous and he was just trying to show off to the others

Nope, you could tell he genuinely had a problem with Deana and couldn't bear to even look at her face

[Vicky.]

I don't think this is comparable to Conor btw at all. I barely watched that series but I did watch that bit and he was just replusive.

[MTVN]

Nope, you could tell he genuinely had a problem with Deana and couldn't bear to even look at her face

I know that, a lot of them did and he sort of assumed the head of the Insiders so always sought to outdo everyone else in the bitching which all came to a head with that rap (again that's not me trying to justify it). I don't really like comparisons like this because they make out two things are exactly the same only by isolating them from their completely different contexts, so really I don't think Conor is relevant at all tbh

[Fish_Fingers]

So now we can add threats of physical violence to Helen's collection of vulgar behaviours. What a sterling example she's setting for her son. He's going to be mighty proud of her in the future, that's for sure.

[Marsh.]

People say all sorts in an argument. Bringing her kid into it is out of order.

[Jack_]

So now we can add threats of physical violence to Helen's collection of vulgar behaviours. What a sterling example she's setting for her son. He's going to be mighty proud of her in the future, that's for sure.

I'm sure he'll be very proud of her, who are you to assess what kind of mother she is? Do you have cameras installed in her house that you watch her on 24/7? I made this point in another thread but no matter who you support, the way housemates act in a constructed and hyperreal environment on a television shows bears no relevance whatsoever as to what they're like as parents, friends, family members and it's disgusting to bring it up to criticise them. So unnecessary

[Fish_Fingers]

Ok, point taken. I will not bring family members into any further criticisms I make of HMs.

[jyunga]

Did no one go to school on here? Comments like this happened daily in high school for me and never amounted to anything. It's just trash talk.

[arista]

Helen is a beast. Thought she might be okay before she went in. Great HM though



She was
a Hooker

[Ammi]

Helen is a beast. Thought she might be okay before she went in. Great HM though

..great housemate to an extent Joe..I think for the moment and as she's probably relaxed in knowing she's going to be there the whole time and so being part of lots of 'dramas' etc, it's a great start to the series and creates lots to talk about..with others as well, she's not the only one but she's the only one that has a guaranteed place so in a way has less to lose sort of thing by her behaviour...but for me, tthat has a very short entertainment value as I think a constantly conflicting house is equally as tedious as a 'quiet' house ..you get to the point where you're kind of 'immune' to being entertained by it if it's all you see of that person and there is no balance of interest to their character..well I do anyway...

[baccy76]

Not really. I'd say the majority of people come out with "I'll kill her" "I could knock her out" and other similar sayings when angry or confronted. That doesn't make someone violent.

Is Helen has a tendency to get violent then it's a different story but simply coming out with a phrase like that isn't enough really.

Someone with some sense on this forum for a change - not sure some people here live in the real world or ever leave their bubble.
People say things like this all the time (myself included) they never have or would. I guarantee Helen never would its just a way of expressing how you feel. I've already said I'd knock Danielle out about 100 times and I'm only having to watch the moron - but I'd never dream of actually doing it :laugh:

[MrWong]

This tbh

Also Helen is quite like a bloke anyway. The way she speaks and behaves at least :laugh:

(I am aware that that in itself is a sexist/stereotyping comment :idc: )

True.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/17/article-0-0D76264B00000578-921_468x698.jpg

[Josy]

True.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/17/article-0-0D76264B00000578-921_468x698.jpg

Ooft she's a rough one eh

[Razor]

As rough as a badgers arse.

[Slevin]

haha. once again. good one.

[MTVN]

Good lord is that actually her

[Crimson Dynamo]

she looks like a bloke

[Sophiee]

People say all sorts in an argument. Bringing her kid into it is out of order.
:worship:

Someone with some sense on this forum for a change - not sure some people here live in the real world or ever leave their bubble.
People say things like this all the time (myself included) they never have or would. I guarantee Helen never would its just a way of expressing how you feel. I've already said I'd knock Danielle out about 100 times and I'm only having to watch the moron - but I'd never dream of actually doing it :laugh:
exactly. all sorts of throwaway comments get said in the heat of the moment when you're mad with someone and that's what I'd consider this to be in helen's situation.

[Me. I Am Salman]

True.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/17/article-0-0D76264B00000578-921_468x698.jpg

:shocked:

[Jake.]

God she looks a bloody state

[Beso]

does she even have tits?

[Kazanne]

Does she have a tash there? lol

[Marsh.]

Wow, the boob job, new hairdo, new teeth and tan really did improve her.

I'm not usually a fan of cosmetic surgery but it's done wonders with her. :eek:

[flamingGalah!]

She is the sort you would cross the street to avoid walking past isn't she, can anyone enlighten me as to why Pauline gave her the free pass

The producers told her to... :whistle:

[reece(:]

True.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/17/article-0-0D76264B00000578-921_468x698.jpg

She was on Corrie?

[reece(:]

Wow, the boob job, new hairdo, new teeth and tan really did improve her.

I'm not usually a fan of cosmetic surgery but it's done wonders with her. :eek:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/10/article-2024488-0D60FA9D00000578-350_306x463.jpg

[Marsh.]

It's like a different person.

[Miranda123]

I hope she does, a right hook right on her nose

Me too, then she can take her skanky arse back to Bolton and shag another ugly footballer

[Miranda123]

:shocked:

Is it a bird, a plane, a bloke????