Helen bashing Danielle's religion...

[Headie]

She should've never brought religion up IMO. I also find it kinda offensive/wrong (whatever the right word is) that it just gets overlooked when, if she's said that to a Muslim or Hindu or something, she'd get ejected immediately or receive lots of 'racism/prejudice' accusations.

[Vicky.]

LOL. I never thought of it like that

Instant ejection for saying 'go and **** budda/allah' or something. Yes..probably

[andybigbro]

Exactly shocking vile homewrecker

[Pete.]

:bored:

She overstepped it when she said Danielle should stop 'shagging Jesus' :bored: but nothing we can do

[Cherie]

She should've never brought religion up IMO. I also find it kinda offensive/wrong (whatever the right word is) that it just gets overlooked when, if she's said that to a Muslim or Hindu or something, she'd get ejected immediately or receive lots of 'racism/prejudice' accusations.

Spot on it would be a warning at the very least.

[Kazanne]

She should've never brought religion up IMO. I also find it kinda offensive/wrong (whatever the right word is) that it just gets overlooked when, if she's said that to a Muslim or Hindu or something, she'd get ejected immediately or receive lots of 'racism/prejudice' accusations.

Very well spotted hayden and you are so right,

[reece(:]

5 of her 300 warnings probably came from that

[Drew.]

It seems she has got away with quite a lot of offensive behaviour tonight

[SocietyIsRuined]

Should have been thrown out but then again she will make the daily star money. I found It offensive and I'm not even Christian. Shows the society we live in. Money rules over everything.

[InOne]

I don't think Danielle would be Jesus' type.

[Jake.]

Fair point

Remember big Roy's warning for joking about bombs with Danielle Marr?

[Mystic Mock]

Tbf if any religious person goes on Big Brother and does what Danielle does then I would use it against her as well.

Also I found it pretty funny.

[andybigbro]

Eject the bitch

[smeagol]

She should've never brought religion up IMO. I also find it kinda offensive/wrong (whatever the right word is) that it just gets overlooked when, if she's said that to a Muslim or Hindu or something, she'd get ejected immediately or receive lots of 'racism/prejudice' accusations.

haha thats so true. that says a lot about how sad things are these days

[lily.]

I don't think Danielle would be Jesus' type.


Probably not.

According to tumblr, Jesus was probably gay.. and was actually saying 'ahh... Men'

[Northern Monkey]

Probably not.

According to tumblr, Jesus was probably gay.. and was actually saying 'ahh... Men'

Haha:joker:

[ruiphillips]

What a tramp

[Cal.]

That is awful now you think about it.

[Marsh.]

I agree with you Hayden but I think Danielle's just as bad with her pretence.

We know she's a lying bitch with her fake morals. She's just as disrespectful towards it.

[Jake.]

I agree with you Hayden but I think Danielle's just as bad with her pretence.

We know she's a lying bitch with her fake morals. She's just as disrespectful towards it.

But that's got nothing to do with Helen whatsoever

[reece(:]

Probably not.

According to tumblr, Jesus was probably gay.. and was actually saying 'ahh... Men'
:laugh2:

[joeysteele]

It seems she has got away with quite a lot of offensive behaviour tonight

A great amount of it Drew. I agree.

[Mystic Mock]

Probably not.

According to tumblr, Jesus was probably gay.. and was actually saying 'ahh... Men'

Pmsl.

[Marsh.]

But that's got nothing to do with Helen whatsoever

I never said it did. I'm pointing out the disrespect emanating from Danielle from the beginning as she insists on keeping up the pretence of being a good catholic girl when she's the exact opposite.

[MTVN]

If she was pointing out Danielle's hypocrisy then fair enough but she did take it too far with the 'go **** Jesus' stuff

[Me. I Am Salman]

Marsh aren't you a Christian :laugh2:

[Jake.]

I never said it did. I'm pointing out the disrespect emanating from Danielle from the beginning as she insists on keeping up the pretence of being a good catholic girl when she's the exact opposite.

But that's got nothing to do with what Helen said is my point. The fact is, that's her faith and it wouldn't matter who the person was or their preferences in life, insulting somebodies religion is just wrong.

[Jake.]

If she was pointing out Danielle's hypocrisy then fair enough but she did take it too far with the 'go **** Jesus' stuff

You basically said what I was trying to get at but better, so this.

[reece(:]

I wonder if the PC brigade have gone to ofcom yet?

[Vicky.]

I wonder if the PC brigade have gone to ofcom yet?Doubt it, not about this anyway. Christianity is fair game, any other religion however...

[GypsyGoth]

Danielle is making a mockery of her religion (if it really is her religion) she has gone in there pretending to be obedient to her god and virginal when she is nothing of the sort. It's just a gimmick. And the fact that BB has not said it to her in the DR makes me suspicious that they are complicit in the charade that she's carrying on.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Doubt it, not about this anyway. Christianity is fair game, any other religion however...

well this is (or was) a Christian country, it's not like oppression against Christians/Catholics etc is a major issue in Britain. whilst it's not right, you can sort of understand why people would take more offence at a similar comment say to a Muslim as islamophobia is a very real problem in the UK today, usually associated with the absolute scum of society. I doubt Helen is anti-Christian :shrug:

[Vicky.]

well this is (or was) a Christian country, it's not like oppression against Christians/Catholics etc is a major issue in Britain. whilst it's not right, you can sort of understand why people would take more offence at a similar comment say to a Muslim as islamophobia is a very real problem in the UK today, usually associated with the absolute scum of society. I doubt Helen is anti-Christian :shrug:
Get your ass over to serious debates with posts like this :tongue:

[Marsh.]

Marsh aren't you a Christian :laugh2:

Not practising but how is that relevant or funny? :conf:

But that's got nothing to do with what Helen said is my point. The fact is, that's her faith and it wouldn't matter who the person was or their preferences in life, insulting somebodies religion is just wrong.

I never said it did have anything to do with what Helen said. I'm pointing out how they're both disrespectful of the religion but in different ways.

Maybe you misunderstand, I'm not justifying what Helen said. I'm simply pointing out Danielle is guilty of the same but she's doing it in a different way.

[Me. I Am Salman]

calm down love

just found it a bit funny how you're on the complete other side of the argument

[Jake.]

(I'm Catholic myself lol)

[Jake.]

Although not really practicing, I still pray and stuff

[Me. I Am Salman]

-is a pretty strict muslim-

[Marsh.]

calm down love

just found it a bit funny how you're on the complete other side of the argument

I don't need to calm down, I seriously just don't understand what you mean?

You'll have to explain, I'm tired. Other side of what?

[Me. I Am Salman]

As in you seem to be on Helen's side

[Marsh.]

As in you seem to be on Helen's side

Well then you've misunderstood because I'm not.

I'm not justifying or liking her comment about religion, I was just pointing out that by feigning her religious morals Danielle is just as bad if not worse IMO. She's an all out fake.

[Lozzibear]

I agree... didn't she also say something about going/wanting to punch her...

[johllllll]

I think everyone is forgetting danielle's attitude throughout this whole show. She clearly favours massive oppression of women. "you have to be lady like", just one of many examples. Why is a women not aloud to talk about sex, a perfectly natural thing yet a lad can. People like her are stopping this world from evolving into a completely equal and free society. It takes people like helen to give narrow minded, brainwashed individuals a kick up the arse.

Having a religious view is a free choice but when using it as opression or influencing other people is wrong on many levels

[Mick McMick]

well this is (or was) a Christian country, it's not like oppression against Christians/Catholics etc is a major issue in Britain. whilst it's not right, you can sort of understand why people would take more offence at a similar comment say to a Muslim as islamophobia is a very real problem in the UK today, usually associated with the absolute scum of society. I doubt Helen is anti-Christian :shrug:

Maybe not in the UK, but Christians are being murdered for their beliefs all across the world at an ever-increasing rate.

[Ammi]

..hmmm, but we don't really know what Danielle's beliefs are, surely..?..because she appears to be using whatever they are as a gameplay and not even a very good one either...she's 'offended' at swearing etc and isn't used to being around it and then in a complete reverse she's joining in with the very best of them/within the blink of an eye..

..whether I was someone who agreed with what she believed in or not, it doesn't matter because she was someone who I thought potentially was going to be a very interesting and complex housemate but I don't think she is ..her game play is very transparent and using 'religion' herself, to me makes her the 'insulting' one because she really makes a complete mockery of genuine beliefs..so many people and even on this forum, scorn and ridicule religion and beliefs and she really has done no favours at all and just makes it look complete hypocrisy... I'm certainly no Helen fan but I think that Danielle is also very much the 'offender' here...

[Vanessa]

..hmmm, but we don't really know what Danielle's beliefs are, surely..?..because she appears to be using whatever they are as a gameplay and not even a very good one either...she's 'offended' at swearing etc and isn't used to being around it and then in a complete reverse she's joining in with the very best of them/within the blink of an eye..

..whether I was someone who agreed with what she believed in or not, it doesn't matter because she was someone who I thought potentially was going to be a very interesting and complex housemate but I don't think she is ..her game play is very transparent and using 'religion' herself, to me makes her the 'insulting' one because she really makes a complete mockery of genuine beliefs..so many people and even on this forum, scorn and ridicule religion and beliefs and she really has done no favours at all and just makes it look complete hypocrisy... I'm certainly no Helen fan but I think that Danielle is also very much the 'offender' here...

This! Danielle is a fake and a hypocrite. Can't stand her.

[Cherie]

Danielle has gone in trying to be different and gain an edge, it's backfired massively on her as she truely does not believe in what she is saying, i think she hoped it would give her the under dog mantle but it just comes across as false.Keep her in over Tamara though please.

[Vanessa]

Danielle has gone in trying to be different and gain an edge, it's backfired massively on her as she truely does not believe in what she is saying, i think she hoped it would give her the under dog mantle but it just comes across as false.Keep her in over Tamara though please.

If she was herself she would be liked more. No one is fooled by her poor me act.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Danielle is a fake christian (if indeed real ones exist) and its plain to see that its an act, even to Helen so frankly it not surprising that in a row, what everyone is thinking gets articulated.

The reason it would not be tolerated if it were Islam for example is that Christians are on the whole able to accept that people dont respect or believe in their religion, Muslims have not reached that stage yet and still think they are right etc. As a producer you know that you will not get into trouble for a christian bash but you also know you would for anti-islam

Its about blame and self.

[chuff me dizzy]

Doubt it, not about this anyway. Christianity is fair game, any other religion however...

Exactly what i said in another thread ,IF Danielle was a Muslim, Helen would have been booted, no questions asked

[Vanessa]

I think everyone is forgetting danielle's attitude throughout this whole show. She clearly favours massive oppression of women. "you have to be lady like", just one of many examples. Why is a women not aloud to talk about sex, a perfectly natural thing yet a lad can. People like her are stopping this world from evolving into a completely equal and free society. It takes people like helen to give narrow minded, brainwashed individuals a kick up the arse.

Having a religious view is a free choice but when using it as opression or influencing other people is wrong on many levels

I couldn't agree more.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Her comment about Jesus is the only thing that shocked me about last night, very distasteful and of course her pathetic gang of gormless idiots laughed.

Really hoping Tamara goes, that will stop them all laughing like idiotic chavs.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Her comment about Jesus is the only thing that shocked me about last night, very distasteful and of course her pathetic gang of gormless idiots laughed.

Really hoping Tamara goes, that will stop them all laughing like idiotic chavs.

Did you ever see the Life of Brian 30 odd years ago?

[muchadoaboutnothing]

If she was pointing out Danielle's hypocrisy then fair enough but she did take it too far with the 'go **** Jesus' stuff

So 100% agree with you. Danielle does indeed have hypocritical tendencies and they should be pointed out to her but for Helen to be so slanderous against someones religion is, in my opinion, so offensive that it should have warranted an immediate removal from the house. As the OP said, if she had said similar about the Muslim faith she would have been out straight away.

[Kizzy]

Reading about her life it seems to have played a big part, and is probably the reason why she is so negative about it .

[Marsh.]

Reading about her life it seems to have played a big part, and is probably the reason why she is so negative about it .

Helen's?

[Niamh.]

I think everyone is forgetting danielle's attitude throughout this whole show. She clearly favours massive oppression of women. "you have to be lady like", just one of many examples. Why is a women not aloud to talk about sex, a perfectly natural thing yet a lad can. People like her are stopping this world from evolving into a completely equal and free society. It takes people like helen to give narrow minded, brainwashed individuals a kick up the arse.

Having a religious view is a free choice but when using it as opression or influencing other people is wrong on many levels

It's just so hard to take those attitudes of Danielle seriously knowing what she does for a living and has apparently said herself in interviews about her own sex life

[Kizzy]

Helen's?

Yes there's a link on here somewhere to an interview with her when she was 24 about her upbringing and how she got into prostitution, it's really sad :(

[Crimson Dynamo]

So 100% agree with you. Danielle does indeed have hypocritical tendencies and they should be pointed out to her but for Helen to be so slanderous against someones religion is, in my opinion, so offensive that it should have warranted an immediate removal from the house. As the OP said, if she had said similar about the Muslim faith she would have been out straight away.

why do you think that religion belief is special and warrant of protection?

[Bluerang1]

As a Christian I was offended but I guess I'm so used to people bashing Christianity that I didn't notice the extent of her words. You're absolutely right, if she said this about another religion there'd be an uproar.

[Crimson Dynamo]

As a Christian I was offended but I guess I'm so used to people bashing Christianity that I didn't notice the extent of her words. You're absolutely right, if she said this about another religion there'd be an uproar.

and your evidence for that is what?

[Jake.]

and your evidence for that is what?

Ron joking about bombs with Danielle Marr in CBB? He was warned straight away

[Marsh.]

and your evidence for that is what?

:joker: Are you joking?

Because every tiny little thing said about the Muslim faith is met with heavy backlash?

If she said to a Muslim housemate "Go and **** Allah" they'd have probably aired a warning in the diary room.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ron joking about bombs with Danielle Marr in CBB? He was warned straight away

Well Ron had a little track record and linking a religion wholly with terrorist activity and death is not the same as slagging someone off for duplicity.

[Marsh.]

Yes there's a link on here somewhere to an interview with her when she was 24 about her upbringing and how she got into prostitution, it's really sad :(

Oh so she had a religious upbringing? How old is she now? 30s?

[Jake.]

:joker: Are you joking?

Because every tiny little thing said about the Muslim faith is met with heavy backlash?

If she said to a Muslim housemate "Go and **** Allah" they'd have probably aired a warning in the diary room.

Pretty much

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker: Are you joking?

Because every tiny little thing said about the Muslim faith is met with heavy backlash?

If she said to a Muslim housemate "Go and **** Allah" they'd have probably aired a warning in the diary room.

Well as that is conjecture on your part its not evidence.

[Kazanne]

:joker: Are you joking?

Because every tiny little thing said about the Muslim faith is met with heavy backlash?

If she said to a Muslim housemate "Go and **** Allah" they'd have probably aired a warning in the diary room.

She'de have probably got death threats too.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh so she had a religious upbringing? How old is she now? 30s?

37

[Crimson Dynamo]

She'de have probably got death threats too.

I thought they told you off about them?

[Marsh.]

Well as that is conjecture on your part its not evidence.

I can't believe you of all people are coming out with this. :joker:

I love it.

[Kizzy]

Oh so she had a religious upbringing? How old is she now? 30s?

27, I just think that if she's been judged a slut and classless before by people using religion to shame her then this situation with danielle will have really touched a nerve maybe?

[Marsh.]

27, I just think that if she's been judged a slut and classless before by people using religion to shame her then this situation with danielle will have really touched a nerve maybe?

Ah, I see. 27? Flaming heck I thought she was older than that. Eventful life for 27.

[Me. I Am Salman]

she's 25

[Me. I Am Salman]

oh you mean helen

[Marsh.]

she's 25

:eek:

25, 27, 24, 37. What the ****? Is she a witch? :laugh:

[Marsh.]

:laugh: Just checked the BB site. She's 27. :laugh: Ok.

[Me. I Am Salman]

What?

[Me. I Am Salman]

I was talking about Danielle

[erinp5]

Helen Wood and Danielle McMahon’s argument is still impacting the house, with Christopher Hall now deciding that he’s furious.



Christopher has waited two days and open up with his opinion on the clash, branding Helen “appalling” and saying she should be embarrassed.

It follows some of the other housemates claiming that Christopher sat on the fence a lot.

“I do have an opinion I just want don’t want to create a massive **** storm,” he explained. “I just felt it was best to shut up and let the girls who were fighting sort it out.”

Delivering his verdict of the argument, Christopher said: “She [Helen] should be embarrassed, her comments were appalling, absolutely appalling.



“She insulted everything from her beliefs to to her appearance, she should be appalled.

“I know she was angry but in the outside world I don’t surround myself by people as angry as that, I come from a Christian background and she’s slagging off those belief systems in front of me.”

And Stephen warned: “If he said something like that again, I will say something about it but there was a lot of s**t going down, at the time I just thought there was really no point in stirring this up.”


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