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Calderyon
11-06-2014, 05:08 AM
Big Brother 2014: Fans want Helen Wood EJECTED after Danielle McMahon row

Big Brother fans are calling for Helen Wood to get the axe from the show after last night’s row with Danielle McMahon.

Danielle and Helen went head to head to a huge argument following the nominations reveal, that saw plenty of insults being shouted at one another.

But Helen’s comments have angered many viewers, especially with her previous FOURTEEN warnings.

Amongst the various things said, Helen threatened she was “going to knock her [Danielle] out”, while also told the Catholic to “stop s**gging Jesus.”

Branding her a member of the “God Squad”, Helen also said called Danielle a “fat b***h” who “needed a s**g.”

One Twitter user wrote online: “Wait so Helen said she’d knock out Danielle and she told her to shag Jesus? Where’s the warning from big brother??”

Another added: “Has #bbuk turned a blind eye to Helen’s comment “I’m going to knock her out” threat to Danielle? Are violent threats acceptable? Punishment?”

A third complained to Big Brother’s official Twitter account: “Where is Helen’s warning for the offensive Jesus comment and threat of violence towards Danielle. #bbuk”

However some viewers backed up Helen.

One argued: “If Danielle can freely voice her disgust at gay marriage and being sexually liberated due to her religion, Helen can freely voice her own disgust at Danielle’s Christianity due to having the opposite standpoint.”

Do you think Helen should’ve been warned or even kicked out for her comments? Should Danielle have also been hauled into the Diary Room?



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Ammi
11-06-2014, 05:37 AM
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..with the 'knock her out' comment I think she should definitely get a warning and one that we see because if they choose to show what she said then they should also be shown to be acting on it/it was completely unacceptable..and the 14 warning thing..?..makes me start to lose faith in BB if it's true because how many warnings are they going to be allowed/what's the point..

..wit the Jesus comment, I would find it more offensive if I believed Danielle's faith and beliefs but I'm starting to completely doubt them as a 'game plan' and so for me, that's equally as offensive because it just mocks people with genuine beliefs and supports hypocrisy which religion is often accused of..she's becoming like the 'anti' of someone who has a belief, no matter how unpopular that belief might be with some people...and seeing some of the homophobic comments she has tweeted and if they're not even 'justified' by a belief then hmmmmm, who is worse in character, Danielle or Helen...

Vanessa
11-06-2014, 05:46 AM
noooooooooooooooo! she's creating so much dram in there! D:

DrunkerThanMoses
11-06-2014, 05:52 AM
She went too far with the Jesus comment; I was a bit shocked by it. Very unpleasant individual

Even though she was in the wrong too, I hope this gains Danielle some Sympathy votes and people will vote out Helens lapdog Tamara.

smeagol
11-06-2014, 06:13 AM
The hoe needs to go, if she had no pass she would of been first out even before the argument .

Pete.
11-06-2014, 06:20 AM
Helen can freely voice her own disgust at Danielle’s Christianity due to having the opposite standpoint.”
:bored:

Not here for Helen anymore she should have received a warning definitely which should have resulted in her being ejected (15 warning)

But let's not forget that in BB3 Adele said to Jade 'I'm going to deck her one' and she didn't get ejected

Patricia4
11-06-2014, 06:22 AM
I never liked Helen so yes I want her out and take her puppy with her that is Mark he follow's her all over.

armand.kay
11-06-2014, 06:33 AM
They'll get over it :idc:

Shaun
11-06-2014, 06:40 AM
no need to eject her, just strip her of her pass :pipe:

Jake.
11-06-2014, 06:49 AM
no need to eject her, just strip her of her pass :pipe:

This

joe199998293
11-06-2014, 06:51 AM
Love Helen.

Vanessa
11-06-2014, 06:52 AM
Are people really taking Danielle side? She's such a fake. :facepalm:

Vanessa
11-06-2014, 06:53 AM
Love Helen.

I much prefer her to Danielle. At lest she's being herself, even though she goes too far sometimes.

Eosvox
11-06-2014, 06:54 AM
Helen is definitively one nasty piece of work. I find it hard to watch when she is on screen acting like some high school mean girl wannabe..

Cal.
11-06-2014, 07:17 AM
They will never give a warning to St Danielle.

The funny thing is the majority of BBs have had arguments like this and no-one battered an eyelid, I don't get why the show itself and the press are making out to be a staple moment.

Vanessa
11-06-2014, 07:18 AM
The funny thing is the majority of BBs have had arguments like this and no-one battered an eyelid, I don't get why the show itself and the press are making out to be a staple moment.

Can't stand Danielle. She's a fake. At least Helen is being herself.

Cal.
11-06-2014, 07:19 AM
Can't stand Danielle. She's a fake. At least Helen is being herself.

I don't get why she still has sympathy. Obviously her fans don't care that she's a contradiction on legs or a raging homophobic.

Vanessa
11-06-2014, 07:20 AM
I don't get why she still has sympathy. Obviously her fans don't care that she's a contradiction on legs or a raging homophobic.

Her gameplan is playing the victim and get sympathy. I hate the poor me act. :fist:

chuff me dizzy
11-06-2014, 07:22 AM
Watching it again last night Helen was very confrontational,she kept walking back right upto Danielles face, very threatening

Vanessa
11-06-2014, 07:25 AM
Watching it again last night Helen was very confrontational,she kept walking back right upto Danielles face, very threatening

Danielle would test my patience, if i was in there. Such a hypocrite. She tells them off for swearing, then does the same thing herself. :bored:

chuff me dizzy
11-06-2014, 07:25 AM
Put it this way ,IF Danielle was a Muslim and Helen attacked her God ,she would have been removed ,but because shes a Christian its ok ? (And im not religious in any shape or form) double standards

GypsyGoth
11-06-2014, 07:28 AM
Should Helen be warned for threatening violence?

Yes definitely.

Should she also be warned for mocking a religion?

Also yes.


As for proper punishment, I really like Shaun's idea of getting rid of her immunity.

Vanessa
11-06-2014, 07:30 AM
Keep her in! We need the drama. Do we really want to watch them all getting along and happy? :umm2:

chuff me dizzy
11-06-2014, 07:32 AM
Danielle would test my patience, if i was in there. Such a hypocrite. She tells them off for swearing, then does the same thing herself. :bored:

Im not a Danielle fan and youre right she is an hypocrite, but Im pointing out if she was any other religion Helen would have been removed

Vanessa
11-06-2014, 07:33 AM
Im not a Danielle fan and youre right she is an hypocrite, but Im pointing out if she was any other religion Helen would have been removed

Probably, but Danielle is very passive aggressive. She isn't much better.

Kazanne
11-06-2014, 07:42 AM
I don't get why she still has sympathy. Obviously her fans don't care that she's a contradiction on legs or a raging homophobic.

I'm not a fan,but I know the difference between an argument and personal nasty insults,we are entitalled to voice our opinions and my opinion is Helen IS a slag,a homewrecker,foul mouthed bint,with no class,zero personality and as much as I don't care for Danielle I would rather be in her company than gob****es.

Kazanne
11-06-2014, 07:44 AM
Im not a Danielle fan and youre right she is an hypocrite, but Im pointing out if she was any other religion Helen would have been removed

Too true Chuff,most people can see what faults Danielle has but seem blind to Helens fould mouthed outburst.

chuff me dizzy
11-06-2014, 07:49 AM
I'm not a fan,but I know the difference between an argument and personal nasty insults,we are entitalled to voice our opinions and my opinion is Helen IS a slag,a homewrecker,foul mouthed bint,with no class,zero personality and as much as I don't care for Danielle I would rather be in her company than gob****es.

i agree with all this, you dont have to like Danielle to admit Helen was threatening and in the wrong ,and i would rather listen to her drone on about her religion then Helens filth talk

Vanessa
11-06-2014, 07:52 AM
i agree with all this, you dont have to like Danielle to admit Helen was threatening and in the wrong ,and i would rather listen to her drone on about her religion then Helens filth talk

It was Danielle who overreacted. I know Helen went too far, but she didn't start the argument.

GypsyGoth
11-06-2014, 07:56 AM
It was Danielle who overreacted. I know Helen went too far, but she didn't start the argument.

But it's not about Danielle or what religion she may or not be. It's about the words Helen used when she threatened violence and how she tried to insult a person by mocking a major religion.

Vanessa
11-06-2014, 07:57 AM
But it's not about Danielle or what religion she may or not be. It's about the words Helen used when she threatened violence and how she tried to insult a person by mocking a major religion.

It's all an act anyway.No way that is the real Danielle. She's just playing the god fearing virgin.

Crimson Dynamo
11-06-2014, 07:59 AM
BB should pull her up about the threat to knock her out but not the Jesus thing as it is plain to all that she is not a Christian and so the comment is irrelevant.

Vanessa
11-06-2014, 08:00 AM
BB should pull her up about the threat to knock her out but not the Jesus thing as it is plain to all that she is not a Christian and so the comment is irrelevant.

This!

user104658
11-06-2014, 08:01 AM
Pfft, leave them to it. I don't like either of them.. Though Helen is worse. Danielle is just a but irritating, moany and full of ****. Helen is downright unpleasant deliberately.

But I hope she stays, and gets worse. Watching her immune until the final, with potential "get Helen out" chants every week, and then a roaring boo on final night... Would be TV gold.

chuff me dizzy
11-06-2014, 08:01 AM
But it's not about Danielle or what religion she may or not be. It's about the words Helen used when she threatened violence and how she tried to insult a person by mocking a major religion.

Spot on !!!

Kazanne
11-06-2014, 08:04 AM
BB should pull her up about the threat to knock her out but not the Jesus thing as it is plain to all that she is not a Christian and so the comment is irrelevant.

So if Danielle had been a muslim,Jew etc,that would be ok? it seems to be ok to slag anyone off who is 'just' a Christian or Catholic,well I for one found it really offensive.

GypsyGoth
11-06-2014, 08:05 AM
It's all an act anyway.No way that is the real Danielle. She's just playing the god fearing virgin.

That may be so.

But if someone was pretending to be a muslim. And they were told to go and get some class and stop shagging their prophet and being a tramp. There would be uproar.

Vanessa
11-06-2014, 08:06 AM
That may be so.

But if someone was pretending to be a muslim. And they were told to go and get some class and stop shagging their prophet and being a tramp. There would be uproar.

They would be given a warning probably.

Kazanne
11-06-2014, 08:07 AM
That may be so.

But if someone was pretending to be a muslim. And they were told to go and get some class and stop shagging their prophet and being a tramp. There would be uproar.

Spot on GG.:wavey:

MrWong
11-06-2014, 08:08 AM
Oh **** off it was an argument. If Helen gets a warning, so should Danielle. Why's everyone making a big deal out of this argument?

I don't think anyones making a big deal about the argument, rather the threats.

BB always warn hm's when they've threatened violence in the past.

Crimson Dynamo
11-06-2014, 08:08 AM
That may be so.

But if someone was pretending to be a muslim. And they were told to go and get some class and stop shagging their prophet and being a tramp. There would be uproar.

Yes but religions and their followers are not the same. Muslims and Christians are very different culturally and developmentally.

Its like swear words, call someone a bastard and call them and **** and see the difference in reaction. Both are swear words.

chuff me dizzy
11-06-2014, 08:22 AM
That may be so.

But if someone was pretending to be a muslim. And they were told to go and get some class and stop shagging their prophet and being a tramp. There would be uproar.

Exactly !! you cannot have one rule for one religion and one for another ,this is a Christian country ,so because it was God,Jesus Helen took the piss out of,it should not be treat any different than if it was Allah ?

Crimson Dynamo
11-06-2014, 08:28 AM
Exactly !! you cannot have one rule for one religion and one for another ,this is a Christian country ,so because it was God,Jesus Helen took the piss out of,it should not be treat any different than if it was Allah ?

Yes you can and we do. As i said before, have you actually see The Life of Brian?

chuff me dizzy
11-06-2014, 08:31 AM
Yes you can and we do. As i said before, have you actually see The Life of Brian?

Life of Brian was before PC Britain days ,today you cannot insult someones religion

HBB1508
11-06-2014, 08:33 AM
I think they should take Helen's immunity away - she would soon watch her mouth I bet.

Crimson Dynamo
11-06-2014, 08:36 AM
Life of Brian was before PC Britain days ,today you cannot insult someones religion

And where does it actually say that? And has anyone ever told this to stand-ups?

think Helen would be well within her rights to state that there is no evidence that Danielle adheres to a religion and plenty of evidence to say she does not.

And actually she was slagging of Danielle and not Catholicism itsself

Jake.
11-06-2014, 08:38 AM
BB should pull her up about the threat to knock her out but not the Jesus thing as it is plain to all that she is not a Christian and so the comment is irrelevant.

How Danielle practices her religion had nothing do do with Helen. It was offensive, end of

MTVN
11-06-2014, 08:42 AM
Kick her out!!!!

Macie Lightfoot
11-06-2014, 08:44 AM
Her gameplan is playing the victim and get sympathy. I hate the poor me act. :fist:

spoiler alert: that's what your beloved Dexter did all last summer! maybe she learned it from him

chuff me dizzy
11-06-2014, 08:46 AM
spoiler alert: that's what your beloved Dexter did all last summer! maybe she learned it from him

Dead right !! :joker:

user104658
11-06-2014, 08:47 AM
So ****ing what if it's "offensive"? Talk about it, slate her, post about it online, start a twitter war against her, let her come out to bad headlines. Let other HMs judge her if they seem fit.

Don't sit demanding that every little offensive comment means punishment / sanctions / removal! What are we supposed to watch for ten weeks? A bunch of people biting their tongues and making sure not to make the oh-so-delicate great British public huff and puff? How utterly boring.

Niamh.
11-06-2014, 09:00 AM
no need to eject her, just strip her of her pass :pipe:

Yup.

It's complete sexism here as well, if it were a man carrying on like that and threatening to knock another HM out they would have been called straight to the Diary Room

chuff me dizzy
11-06-2014, 09:02 AM
Yup.

It's complete sexism here as well, if it were a man carrying on like that and threatening to knock another HM out they would have been called straight to the Diary Room

Dead right

luvjustin
11-06-2014, 09:11 AM
Are these people actually insane? Why the hell would you want to get rid of such a big character? She's done nothing to warrant being thrown out by Big Brother.

I've always been in the camp of - keep in the bigots, the racists etc. unless somebody actually hits someone I see no reason to remove them. Let them dig their own graves.

Josy
11-06-2014, 09:12 AM
no need to eject her, just strip her of her pass :pipe:

This.

user104658
11-06-2014, 09:35 AM
If they strip her of her pass then the whole opening theme of the series was an absolute joke.

"Someone gets a pass to the final! Except, if the public don't like them, they can still vote them out because we'll just take the pass to the final away. So... It's not ACTUALLY a pass to the final."

It's MUCH more interesting that a disliked housemate has a pass to the final.

Also regarding the threats of violence... Err... For those not familiar with the intricacies of Scottish accents... Let me just say this: Danielle was clearly not raised as a gentile "Lady", and I honestly don't fancy Helen's chances :joker:. Danielle sounds like she'd bottle someone in the face without breaking her stride.

Niamh.
11-06-2014, 09:38 AM
If they strip her of her pass then the whole opening theme of the series was an absolute joke.

"Someone gets a pass to the final! Except, if the public don't like them, they can still vote them out because we'll just take the pass to the final away. So... It's not ACTUALLY a pass to the final."

It's MUCH more interesting that a disliked housemate has a pass to the final.

Also regarding the threats of violence... Err... For those not familiar with the intricacies of Scottish accents... Let me just say this: Danielle was clearly not raised as a gentile "Lady", and I honestly don't fancy Helen's chances :joker:. Danielle sounds like she'd bottle someone in the face without breaking her stride.

Nah Helen annihilated her last night, Danielle was a crumbling mess after Helen was finished with her

Slevin
11-06-2014, 09:39 AM
BB is pretty much a joke to begin with. a really sick one at times. i dont think she should be thrown out over this but i would find it hilarious if they ever did take her pass away. what a bunch of bs to even have that was. more of a joke i should say.

Jack_
11-06-2014, 09:39 AM
Yeah sure let's get rid of one of the people who has made the start of the series interesting and kill it dead in its tracks :facepalm:

She should get a warning for the 'I'm going to knock her out' comment, but that's it. And again - what's to say she hasn't been warned?

I'm not a fan,but I know the difference between an argument and personal nasty insults,we are entitalled to voice our opinions and my opinion is Helen IS a slag,a homewrecker,foul mouthed bint,with no class,zero personality and as much as I don't care for Danielle I would rather be in her company than gob****es.

Firstly talking about sex does not make you a 'slag' and second of all a married man paying for sex with a prostitute puts HIM in the wrong, not her. It was her job and she was paid to do it.

If they strip her of her pass then the whole opening theme of the series was an absolute joke.

"Someone gets a pass to the final! Except, if the public don't like them, they can still vote them out because we'll just take the pass to the final away. So... It's not ACTUALLY a pass to the final."

It's MUCH more interesting that a disliked housemate has a pass to the final.

*applauds*

End of discussion really.

Razor
11-06-2014, 09:43 AM
They are both vial people

Niamh.
11-06-2014, 09:43 AM
Yeah sure let's get rid of one of the people who has made the start of the series interesting and kill it dead in its tracks :facepalm:

She should get a warning for the 'I'm going to knock her out' comment, but that's it. And again - what's to say she hasn't been warned?



Firstly talking about sex does not make you a 'slag' and second of all a married man paying for sex with a prostitute puts HIM in the wrong, not her. It was her job and she was paid to do it.



*applauds*

End of discussion really.

:laugh2:

Jack_
11-06-2014, 09:46 AM
:laugh2:

You know full well that had a bore been given it the majority of this forum would have been pretty pissed off the entire series (including yourself...I'm sure you usually champion the controversial housemates), so surely this is a better result?

You can all be rest assured though that the producers will take it off her though when they see the backlash when actually if anything that should give them more reason to have her keep it, people hating her will attract more people to the show. But I don't trust the producers to think it through like that so you'll all get what you wish I'm sure :(

user104658
11-06-2014, 09:47 AM
Nah Helen annihilated her last night, Danielle was a crumbling mess after Helen was finished with her

Verbally, yes. That's inevitable: Helen is arrogant and ignorant whereas Danielle is a mess who doesn't even have a firm grasp on her own personality. Of course she crumbled.

I was talking about the "knock her out" comment. I genuinely think Danielle would probably bite off her ear or something. She's rough as ****.

user104658
11-06-2014, 09:53 AM
You know full well that had a bore been given it the majority of this forum would have been pretty pissed off the entire series (including yourself...I'm sure you usually champion the controversial housemates), so surely this is a better result?

You can all be rest assured though that the producers will take it off her though when they see the backlash when actually if anything that should give them more reason to have her keep it, people hating her will attract more people to the show. But I don't trust the producers to think it through like that so you'll all get what you wish I'm sure :(

On that second night I was actually worried that she was a bore. I thought a nicey nice housemate getting it was inevitable. Which would have made it pointless because nicey nice housemates make it to the final anyway, no pass needed.

And then the flipside, it going to a NOT nice housemate... If BB can simply take it away, then it was never a pass to the final in the first place? Her little lightbox picture that says "finalist" should have "(maybe, unless she isn't nice and people want her out)" in the small print.

TBH it's the only thing that's gotten me interested this year. I really want to see where this goes.

Niamh.
11-06-2014, 09:58 AM
You know full well that had a bore been given it the majority of this forum would have been pretty pissed off the entire series (including yourself...I'm sure you usually champion the controversial housemates), so surely this is a better result?

You can all be rest assured though that the producers will take it off her though when they see the backlash when actually if anything that should give them more reason to have her keep it, people hating her will attract more people to the show. But I don't trust the producers to think it through like that so you'll all get what you wish I'm sure :(

lol I was just laughing at the end of discussion bit Jack :laugh:

But no i don't want her ejected, I'm just saying it is sexism as we all know if she'd have been a man saying what she did, she'd have been called straigh to the Diary room over that

Verbally, yes. That's inevitable: Helen is arrogant and ignorant whereas Danielle is a mess who doesn't even have a firm grasp on her own personality. Of course she crumbled.

I was talking about the "knock her out" comment. I genuinely think Danielle would probably bite off her ear or something. She's rough as ****.

Stop that she's a proper lady :nono:

Jack_
11-06-2014, 09:58 AM
On that second night I was actually worried that she was a bore. I thought a nicey nice housemate getting it was inevitable. Which would have made it pointless because nicey nice housemates make it to the final anyway, no pass needed.

And then the flipside, it going to a NOT nice housemate... If BB can simply take it away, then it was never a pass to the final in the first place? Her little lightbox picture that says "finalist" should have "(maybe, unless she isn't nice and people want her out)" in the small print.

TBH it's the only thing that's gotten me interested this year. I really want to see where this goes.

I agree, there was a massive chance that pass could have gone to an inoffensive fence-sitter that would do nothing all summer to warrant a place in the final and yet amazingly and thankfully Pauline seems to have picked the right person as it's gone to one of the main characters in the first few days. That's...a good thing. We need these people to stay in for the sake of the show because the public certainly wouldn't be keeping them around, and whether people are willing to admit it or not a hatable character staying in the show keeps viewers interested. People love to hate. That's the way this show works (especially with vote to evict) and if they can't get rid of her ever then that's even better.

I'm not going to sit here and lie, I'll admit I'm a bit hypocritical in the fact if it had gone to a bore then of course I'd be hoping it would be removed but so long as Helen continues the way she has done then I see no reason why she should lose it. This is a much, much better result than how you'd have expected it to go.

And really I guess if they're going to come up with these big new innovative twists that Emma said on launch night 'we've never tried anything like this before' - then surely they should stick to it?

Jack_
11-06-2014, 10:01 AM
lol I was just laughing at the end of discussion bit Jack :laugh:

But no i don't want her ejected, I'm just saying it is sexism as we all know if she'd have been a man saying what she did, she'd have been called straigh to the Diary room over that

Well I agree with that, she definitely should have been warned (but then again she might've been and we just don't know) not because I think the threat was serious...but because they like to give these warnings out for anything nowadays. So it's a principal thing.

Jack.
11-06-2014, 10:02 AM
Helen :love:

user104658
11-06-2014, 11:43 AM
I definitely agree about people loving to hate. Or, rather, I think it's the catalyst that helps people to really root for someone else and get involved. For example by the end of the show two years ago, I felt emotionally exhausted by the whole thing, but I look back on it as a great series because I got so invested - and it was purely down to the fact that I actively had a full on seething hatred for Conor. I didn't massively LIKE any of the others but I was rooting against his little group so much that I was daydreaming at work. Daydreaming about hate. :joker:

rionablue
11-06-2014, 11:49 AM
Get the free pass off the bitch give her her last warning an let the public boo her out of the house

daniel-lewis-1985
11-06-2014, 12:04 PM
Glad BB didn't give her a warning.

They didn't give Adelle a warning when she said she was gonna deck Jade so its nice to see BB let them get on with it.

Shows how pc people have become since 2002 and its sad.

Danielle called her a slag, what did she expect?

Im sick of BB dishing out warnings.

Adamw92
11-06-2014, 12:06 PM
Watching it again last night Helen was very confrontational,she kept walking back right upto Danielles face, very threatening

That's what I was saying last night but I just got shot down because all that apparently matters is that Danielle blew up at Helen. I'm not defending either of them but I find it hilarious how no one seems to think Helen did anything wrong at all. They were both in the wrong, Danielle more so but Helen stormed in there ready for an argument and she got one because thats the type of person Danielle is.

But yes, I am annoyed that Helen hasn't at least had a warning for what shes said or had her free pass revoked.

chuff me dizzy
11-06-2014, 12:19 PM
That's what I was saying last night but I just got shot down because all that apparently matters is that Danielle blew up at Helen. I'm not defending either of them but I find it hilarious how no one seems to think Helen did anything wrong at all. They were both in the wrong, Danielle more so but Helen stormed in there ready for an argument and she got one because thats the type of person Danielle is.

But yes, I am annoyed that Helen hasn't at least had a warning for what shes said or had her free pass revoked.

Dani was all mouth ,there was threatening behaviour on the other hand Helen kept coming back right upto her THATS threatening behaviour

Vanessa
11-06-2014, 12:20 PM
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You mean Danielle fans? :suspect:

Beso
11-06-2014, 12:31 PM
So ****ing what if it's "offensive"? Talk about it, slate her, post about it online, start a twitter war against her, let her come out to bad headlines. Let other HMs judge her if they seem fit.

Don't sit demanding that every little offensive comment means punishment / sanctions / removal! What are we supposed to watch for ten weeks? A bunch of people biting their tongues and making sure not to make the oh-so-delicate great British public huff and puff? How utterly boring.

so can we talk about it or not?:conf:

Sophiee
11-06-2014, 12:41 PM
You mean Danielle fans? :suspect:
:joker: basically.

I see why people could take this offensively but being ejected would be a bit of an overreaction. a warning would suffice.

Vanessa
11-06-2014, 12:42 PM
:joker: basically.

I see why people could take this offensively but being ejected would be a bit of an overreaction. a warning would suffice.

I agree. I doubt Helen would attack anyone. She just has a bad temper. :laugh:

rocket
11-06-2014, 02:09 PM
I never liked Helen so yes I want her out and take her puppy with her that is Mark he follow's her all over.

And Pauline too....

reece(:
11-06-2014, 02:20 PM
way too much of an overreaction, in comparison to other things shown on reality TV shows, that was nothing.

user104658
11-06-2014, 02:21 PM
If by having a temper you mean "a mouthy chav" then yes, I agree. Although so is Danielle. Meh . Just let them go at it tbh...

reece(:
11-06-2014, 02:24 PM
Glad BB didn't give her a warning.

They didn't give Adelle a warning when she said she was gonna deck Jade so its nice to see BB let them get on with it.

Shows how pc people have become since 2002 and its sad.

Danielle called her a slag, what did she expect?

Im sick of BB dishing out warnings.
:clap:

didn't Makosi threaten to slap someone as well... and Aisleyne..

LukeB
11-06-2014, 02:48 PM
no.. we all say we going to knock someone out out of anger doesn't mean we ment it

user104658
11-06-2014, 02:55 PM
we all say we going to knock someone out out of anger

Do we?

Sophiee
11-06-2014, 03:09 PM
:clap:

didn't Makosi threaten to slap someone as well... and Aisleyne..
let's not forget liz jones saying she'd stab someone. but that was hilarious :conf:.

Niamh.
11-06-2014, 03:14 PM
let's not forget liz jones saying she'd stab someone. but that was hilarious :conf:.

Liz Jones didn't threaten to stab anyone, she said "If" you did that to my horse I would stab you...........he didn't do that to her horse nor was he going to as liz's horse (or hypothetical horse) wasn't in the house with them, so luckily he was safe enough from her violent attack from occurring

fitz2k2
11-06-2014, 03:20 PM
I bet if that guy said that to hazel the whole "ill knock you out" last yr he wouldnt been gone long time ago

Sophiee
11-06-2014, 03:21 PM
Liz Jones didn't threaten to stab anyone, she said "If" you did that to my horse I would stab you...........he didn't do that to her horse nor was he going to as liz's horse (or hypothetical horse) wasn't in the house with them, so luckily he was safe enough from her violent attack from occurring
it may not have been a threat but I still think it would have been seen a lot differently had it come from a widely hated housemate (conor is a good example).

Eosvox
11-06-2014, 03:24 PM
Just to be clear, I'm not a fan of Danielle by any means..Its just she is, to me at least, less abrasive to watch..

Niamh.
11-06-2014, 03:25 PM
it may not have been a threat but I still think it would have been seen a lot differently had it come from a widely hated housemate (conor is a good example).

I don't think it would at all, what she said was a reaction to a pretty sick story from Evander to do with animal cruelty, the viewing public don't take kindly to animal cruelty by and large so I think that's why her comment was received well by people not really who said it but in response to what...if you know what I mean

Miranda123
11-06-2014, 03:27 PM
..with the 'knock her out' comment I think she should definitely get a warning and one that we see because if they choose to show what she said then they should also be shown to be acting on it/it was completely unacceptable..and the 14 warning thing..?..makes me start to lose faith in BB if it's true because how many warnings are they going to be allowed/what's the point..

..wit the Jesus comment, I would find it more offensive if I believed Danielle's faith and beliefs but I'm starting to completely doubt them as a 'game plan' and so for me, that's equally as offensive because it just mocks people with genuine beliefs and supports hypocrisy which religion is often accused of..she's becoming like the 'anti' of someone who has a belief, no matter how unpopular that belief might be with some people...and seeing some of the homophobic comments she has tweeted and if they're not even 'justified' by a belief then hmmmmm, who is worse in character, Danielle or Helen...

I dont think Danielle is quite as saintly as she makes out but she may have just changed her life and become a born again christian
My biggest problem with all this is that had Danielle been a Muslim, not only would Helen not have said anything about her shagging her God but she would also have been thrown out immediately and the offensive remarks would NEVER have been shown!! DOUBLE STANDARDS DONT SIT WELL WITH ME
As for Helen calling her a fat bitch??? Danielle does not have a nice body in my opinion, something not so great about her shape, but FAT?? really

Helen is a nobody who shagged what she thought was a somebody lol

Im sorry but I cant take anyone seriously if they shag SHREK!!

Miranda123
11-06-2014, 03:28 PM
I'm not a fan,but I know the difference between an argument and personal nasty insults,we are entitalled to voice our opinions and my opinion is Helen IS a slag,a homewrecker,foul mouthed bint,with no class,zero personality and as much as I don't care for Danielle I would rather be in her company than gob****es.

well said lol

Miranda123
11-06-2014, 03:30 PM
She went too far with the Jesus comment; I was a bit shocked by it. Very unpleasant individual

Even though she was in the wrong too, I hope this gains Danielle some Sympathy votes and people will vote out Helens lapdog Tamara.

Yeah, I really want Tamara to go cause she's stupid and not at all entertaining and it will make Helen, Pauline and that douche bag Winston, sooo unhappy and scared for their positions

Helen may have a bi to the final but lets make it a very unhappy ride!

InOne
11-06-2014, 03:34 PM
Nah the show needs Helen at the moment. I don't care about the HM's enough yet so she can offend all she likes. An exception is Kimberly but she'd be having none of that anyway.

Miranda123
11-06-2014, 03:51 PM
:joker: basically.

I see why people could take this offensively but being ejected would be a bit of an overreaction. a warning would suffice.

That would be warning No.15 then??

seanraff07
11-06-2014, 03:51 PM
On that second night I was actually worried that she was a bore. I thought a nicey nice housemate getting it was inevitable. Which would have made it pointless because nicey nice housemates make it to the final anyway, no pass needed.

And then the flipside, it going to a NOT nice housemate... If BB can simply take it away, then it was never a pass to the final in the first place? Her little lightbox picture that says "finalist" should have "(maybe, unless she isn't nice and people want her out)" in the small print.

TBH it's the only thing that's gotten me interested this year. I really want to see where this goes.

So just because you have a free pass to the final that makes it ok to seriously threaten someone and mock a religion? Couldn't give a **** if she is religious as she makes out or not it doesn't make a difference, what Helen said was out of order and could have offended a lot of viewers too.

Don't chuck her out, but I think stripping her final pass off her would be hilarious.

Miranda123
11-06-2014, 03:51 PM
Nah the show needs Helen at the moment. I don't care about the HM's enough yet so she can offend all she likes. An exception is Kimberly but she'd be having none of that anyway.

Quite agree, dont want her to go, just want her to suffer!!

user104658
11-06-2014, 04:35 PM
So just because you have a free pass to the final that makes it ok to seriously threaten someone and mock a religion? Couldn't give a **** if she is religious as she makes out or not it doesn't make a difference, what Helen said was out of order and could have offended a lot of viewers too.

Don't chuck her out, but I think stripping her final pass off her would be hilarious.

Nah it would ruin the concept... UNLESS they just flipped the two and gave Jale the pass to the final and Helen up every week. Hahaha. They can't do that now though as voting is open...

andybigbro
11-06-2014, 04:38 PM
Strip her of her pass and give her a warning then let her get evicted to raging boos

Strictly Jake
11-06-2014, 06:48 PM
What she said was offensive. Religious prejudice is as bad as racism and sexism so she should have got a warning

Vanessa
11-06-2014, 06:52 PM
I think the warning should be for aggressive behaviour. She needs to tone it down.

Strictly Jake
11-06-2014, 07:06 PM
I honestly can't believe she is getting away with so much. Pass or no pass to get that many warnings just means she is a nasty person

joeysteele
11-06-2014, 07:10 PM
Well they can hardly shift her,this was why the timing of the free pass was a totally stupid thing to do so early,before the one with the power had observed allof them for at leats a few days or even a week.

To remove Helen would blow apart the daft power trip thing so clearly she is there for the series.
She already knows she is too so who can blame her for not caring at all as to how she comes across.
She has a free and easy ride to the final and unless she does something really stupid or criminal then she cannot be moved until that final

Well done the planners of BB.

Vanessa
11-06-2014, 07:11 PM
Well they can hardly shift her,this was why the timing of the free pass was a totally stupid thing to do so early,before the one with the power had observed allof them for at leats a few days or even a week.

To remove Helen would blow apart the daft power trip thing so clearly she is there for the series.
She already knows she is too so who can blame her for not caring at all as to how she comes across.
She has a free and easy ride to the final and unless she does something really stupid or criminal then she cannot be moved until that final

Well done the planners of BB.

I think the show would be so boring without her.

joeysteele
11-06-2014, 07:24 PM
I think the show would be so boring without her.

I have to say I agree with you on that,she has become the outspoken one and with that free pass, the one who knows she can virtually do what she likes.

She is well down in my list at present but having said that, I am becoming eager to see her responses to things as the series goes on so I am glad she is not going to be under threat of going at all.

Vanessa
11-06-2014, 07:26 PM
I have to say I agree with you on that,she has become the outspoken one and with that free pass, the one who knows she can virtually do what she likes.

She is well down in my list at present but having said that, I am becoming eager to see her responses to things as the series goes on so I am glad she is not going to be under threat of going at all.

I like her, because she's fiesty. But i know she goes too far sometimes. I still prefer her to hypocrite Danielle.

Lex
11-06-2014, 07:33 PM
I don't agree with all of this knee-jerk eviction nonsense every time that a house mate turns out to be a nasty cow! Mind you, I couldn't actually put my hand on my heart and say that "I liked the girl ..at all"...No she is no more than a mouthy scratter!...but as for the people wanting her removed for saying that she would like to "knock Danielle out"...well come on!...that's just the piss and bluster that always accompanies a 'northern lasses' row...and by no means to be taken literally!
The removal of such a character will doubtlessly lessen the drama in the series, and might make the rest of the house mates that are biding their time and may turn out to be volatile ...become too scared to let rip and become wallpaper.
A public warning , a spell in the cage-thingy and the revoking of her immunity would be the smarter move in my humble opinion!

Sophiee
11-06-2014, 07:40 PM
That would be warning No.15 then??
we don't actually know how many warnings she's received. the daily star reported it and we know their history.

MarcusMel
11-06-2014, 07:43 PM
Helen has some deep problems concerning her status in society. She actually has a very low opinion of herself and any confirmation of that is deeply hurtful to her.

They question in my mind is why Danielle would think that she should be liked and not be up for eviction! What is she doing that she sees as endearing and helpful to the HM's.

At least we don't have to put up with the automatic disabled winner this year.

Macie Lightfoot
11-06-2014, 07:44 PM
tbh at this rate I could see her getting herself ejected in Alexandra "memba I told you" De-Gale fashion

Videostar
11-06-2014, 07:45 PM
Helen should be ejaculated from the house straight away.

Northern Monkey
11-06-2014, 08:47 PM
Keep her in! We need the drama. Do we really want to watch them all getting along and happy? :umm2:

This 100%!

Northern Monkey
11-06-2014, 08:47 PM
Helen should be ejaculated from the house straight away.

She's had enough ejaculations already......

Vanessa
11-06-2014, 08:48 PM
Helen should be ejaculated from the house straight away.

:joker: