Is all the anti Pauline sentiment racially motivated?

[westfield]

I cannot recall such venom being directed at a house mate as is now being directed at Pauline. Ok she may be a pain in the backside to live with, but I just have a feeling that a lot of the Pauline hate posts are just plain closet racists. It is only a game show ffs.

Do you agree that there is something not right here?

[Verbal]

She is just a horrible human being, how dare you accuse me of being racist

[InOne]

2/10

[Razor]

Nothing to do with race Pauline is a vial person and deserves the comments she is getting.

After all we are just keeping it real just how Pauline likes it.

[Daffodil]

Is all the anti Pauline sentiment racially motivated?

NO

She is just a nasty piece of work.

[Livia]

Oh do bugger off with the racism crap. It's nothing to do with her colour and everything to do with the fact that she's just horrible.

[Black Dagger]

She's just a vulgar, nasty person.

I've supported lots of black housemates in the past, what an awful thread.

[Marc]

Lol

[erinp5]

Oh please ...

[Me. I Am Salman]

100%

[InOne]

She's just a vulgar, nasty person.

I've supported lots of black housemates in the past, what an awful thread.

"I've supported black housemates before but not this one"

Definitely racist :nono:

[Black Dagger]

I'm going to hell anyway.

[Cherie]

I cannot recall such venom being directed at a house mate as is now being directed at Pauline. Ok she may be a pain in the backside to live with, but I just have a feeling that a lot of the Pauline hate posts are just plain closet racists. It is only a game show ffs.

Do you agree that there is something not right here?

Nothing at all to do with race, read back the comments about Wolfy last year or Caroline or Conor from previous years i think Pauline is actually getting off lightly compared to some of the stuff posted in the past

[Me. I Am Salman]

tbf though there are Pauline haters who were Conor fans.. and he was far, far worse

[Livia]

100%

Salman... you don't believe we're all closet racists. I refuse to believe that.

[Cherie]

100%

:laugh:stirrer

[Me. I Am Salman]

Salman... you don't believe we're all closet racists. I refuse to believe that.

:hehe:

[Marc]

tbf though there are Pauline haters who were Conor fans.. and he was far, far worse

OMG Blacks AND the Irish!

[chuff me dizzy]

What stupid question ,so we cannot dislike someone if they are not white? if you read this forum you will see Helen,Dani, and most of the others are disliked too ,and guess what ? they are white

[Daffodil]

I was waiting for someone to pull the racism card. Are we expected to 'make allowances' for black people and pretend to find all of them angels? Of course not ... how patronising!!!!

[chuff me dizzy]

tbf though there are Pauline haters who were Conor fans.. and he was far, far worse

And there are some that were not

[flamingGalah!]

So by that reckoning if someone hates a white person in the house they too must be racist? Or me hating Mark means I must be homophobic? :sleep:

Pauline is a nasty old bitch, I couldn't care less what colour she is, she is a nasty bully inside... :nono:

[chuff me dizzy]

I was waiting for someone to pull the racism card. Are we expected to 'make allowances' for black people and pretend to find all of them angels? Of course not ... how patronising!!!!

Its been bandied about the last couple of days on every anti Pauline Toya thread

[realitytvsux]

What BS. I couldn't stand horrible Connor for exactly the same reason I can's stand nasty Pauline - they are both out and out bullies. Race does not come into it.

[flamingGalah!]

All threads/posts like this should be deleted :idc:

[Tom4784]

It's more to do with the fact that she's an utter twat.

[RichardG]

no

[armand.kay]

Yeah I hate her because she's black.:yuk:
she hasn't really done anything wrong apart from being black. Get her out!!!!

[Daffodil]

Its been bandied about the last couple of days on every anti Pauline Toya thread

I can imagine! But no amount of racism accusations will save Pauline who is just simply an old cow.

[Livia]

:hehe:

You git LOL...

[Kazanne]

All threads/posts like this should be deleted :idc:

Agreed,utter ****e

[chuff me dizzy]

I can imagine! But no amount of racism accusations will save Pauline who is just simply an old cow.

Shes getting just what she deserves !!

[Apple202]

All threads/posts like this should be deleted :idc:

i hope this isnt serious

[Jake.]

No, what a plain stupid opinion to have. You ought to be a bit more cautious when labelling people racists for the sake of it.

[Patricia4]

She is one awful person.

[Josy]

It must be yeah.

I honestly can't see it just being because she is a horrible, nasty, spiteful person.

[Glenn.]

Racist? No.

She gets hate because she is an awful person.

[Ammi]

I cannot recall such venom being directed at a house mate as is now being directed at Pauline. Ok she may be a pain in the backside to live with, but I just have a feeling that a lot of the Pauline hate posts are just plain closet racists. It is only a game show ffs.

Do you agree that there is something not right here?

..there was the same level of dislike against Conor with Deanna and that was against racism..it's about a reaction to psychological bullying of a housemate which is bound to cause a strong reaction and feelings and nothing to do with skin colour whatsoever...

[flamingGalah!]

i hope this isnt serious

Erm yeah, silly borderline trolling posts/threads should definitely be deleted :wavey:

[Verbal]

It must be yeah.

I honestly can't see it just being because she is a horrible, nasty, spiteful person.

Well played Josy, well played:joker:

[joeysteele]

Of course it isn't.

[smeagol]

if you dont like a someone and they are black your a racist lol. wtf.
out of all bb's pauline is the worst ever one. there is just no good in her

[drummer]

nothing to do with race. I liked her a lot at first, but she has gone downhill ever since. She creates her own drama with people, she criticises others, she talks down to others with her views, thinks she knows everything about other housemates, and will not except that people have the right to vote for her to be evicted.

[Niamh.]

OMG Blacks AND the Irish!

:fist:

[jackc1806]

Ew at this thread

[Gerbil901]

Me and my wife are as black as ever and neither of us like her so I would like to say that she's just a nasty human being. I don't like Helen and I didn't like Dexter last year so my dislike for people is equal for all.

[Niamh.]

If people dislike her just because she's black, how do you explain the love she was getting in the begining? It's her behaviour that led to people changing their minds and she was actually the forum favourite initially :shrug:

[wendywillow]

i was about to write that (-:

and yeah threads like this are the definition of trolling

[rubymoo]

Sadly people will play the race card til the end of time, I don't see colour, just people and she's a horrid person, I would suggest you have an issue with race seeing as you brought it up.

[armand.kay]

If people dislike her just because she's black, how do you explain the love she was getting in the begining? It's her behaviour that led to people changing their minds and she was actually the forum favourite initially :shrug:

It was dark, I thought she was just extremely tanned.

[Niamh.]

It was dark, I thought she was just extremely tanned.

:hehe:

[Kizzy]

No, not at all.

[InOne]

Well the OP got what they wanted. Start a thread then vanish whilst people yap on about what they already know.

[Ammi]

Well the OP got what they wanted. Start a thread then vanish whilst people yap on about what they already know.

..truth tea Joe..:laugh:..:pipe:..

[Vicky.]

... :laugh:

[Black Dagger]

It was dark, I thought she was just extremely tanned.

:joker:

[Nerd]

Nope. Not motivated by race at all!

[AnnieK]

....this thread :laugh:

[lovebigbrotheruk]

I say 30% of the hate is racially motivated. There's nothing wrong with disliking the housemate, but some of the names Toya and Pauline are called are quite disturbing to say the least.

[Tarryn]

I say 30% of the hate is racially motivated. There's nothing wrong with disliking the housemate, but some of the names Toya and Pauline are called are quite disturbing to say the least.

How dare you accuse people of being racist for daring to hate such a vile, nasty person.
So what you are saying is that you can't dislike a person if they are black ?.
GROW UP

[lovebigbrotheruk]

How dare you accuse people of being racist for daring to hate such a vile, nasty person.
So what you are saying is that you can't dislike a person if they are black ?.
GROW UP

D: I never insinuated such a thing!

[Vicky.]

I say 30% of the hate is racially motivated. There's nothing wrong with disliking the housemate, but some of the names Toya and Pauline are called are quite disturbing to say the least.

That happens every year though (sadly)

Hazel was called some awful stuff last year, Caroline the year before, and so on.

Some people just go too far with their insults. Its nothing to do with race

[AnnieK]

How did you reach that statistic? No names are close to racial slurs that I have seen...:shrug:.

[Tarryn]

D: I never insinuated such a thing!

I just don't get why race is being brought into it.
I have watched every series of BB & seen horrible white people & horrible black people. It's human nature.
What has race got to do with it ?.
The last thing I think when I see or meet another person is what race are they.
Please let's not make this a race issue.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

That happens every year though (sadly)

Hazel was called some awful stuff last year, Caroline the year before, and so on.

Some people just go too far with their insults. Its nothing to do with race

It's* (No offence, just a pet hate of mine)

I said 30%. It just so happens that you belong in the remaining 70%. You can't speak for everyone.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I cannot recall such venom being directed at a house mate as is now being directed at Pauline. Ok she may be a pain in the backside to live with, but I just have a feeling that a lot of the Pauline hate posts are just plain closet racists. It is only a game show ffs.

Do you agree that there is something not right here?

No but i do think you might have underlying race issues for you to jump to the conclusion people don't like Pauline because shes black.

In regards to a housemate never being hated like this before i give you Grace BB7.

Suppose its standard to have a "is it racist" thread though.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

I just don't get why race is being brought into it.
I have watched every series of BB & seen horrible white people & horrible black people. It's human nature.
What has race got to do with it ?.
The last thing I think when I see or meet another person is what race are they.
Please let's not make this a race issue.

That's a beautiful mind you have right there :blush:

It's a shame that racism is still a massive issue in the 21st Century, but it is and that's undeniable.

[Vicky.]

It's* (No offence, just a pet hate of mine)

I said 30%. It just so happens that you belong in the remaining 70%. You can't speak for everyone.

Based on nothing. So basically you ARE accusing others of being racist for disliking a black housemate. Despite the exact same thing happening year after year, with non-black housemates.

[Vicky.]

No but i do think you might have underlying race issues for you to jump to the conclusion people don't like Pauline because shes black.

In regards to a housemate never being hated like this before i give you Grace BB7.

Suppose its standard to have a "is it racist" thread though.

Honestly, I would agree with this if anything...

[lovebigbrotheruk]

Based on nothing. So basically you ARE accusing others of being racist for disliking a black housemate. Despite the exact same thing happening year after year, with non-black housemates.

I certainly would put my life on it that some of the hate Pauline is getting is racially motivated.

[Vicky.]

I certainly would put my life on it that some of the hate Pauline is getting is racially motivated.

How do you explain her insane popularity on the first night then? People just forgot they were racist?

A couple of people may possibly dislike her just because she is black..some people are idiots like that. But to say 30% of the forum is just bloody ridiculous to be quite honest.

[Bluerang1]

No no no! Toya yes but not Pauline. Pauline is a horrible human being. Great TV though

[lovebigbrotheruk]

How do you explain her insane popularity on the first night then? People just forgot they were racist?

A couple of people may possibly dislike her just because she is black..some people are idiots like that. But to say 30% of the forum is just bloody ridiculous to be quite honest.

I don't know if you recall but on this forum and on digitalspy, whilst a lot of people were supportive of Pauline, there were a lot who had reservations, with many stating comments like; "something a bit iffy about her", "she's going to be nasty".

Funny how these people can predict the future, isn't it?

And this was when she hadn't even done anything :joker:

[lovebigbrotheruk]

No no no! Toya yes but not Pauline. Pauline is a horrible human being. Great TV though

I'm glad you see this as well .

[Bluerang1]

No but i do think you might have underlying race issues for you to jump to the conclusion people don't like Pauline because shes black.

In regards to a housemate never being hated like this before i give you Grace BB7.

Suppose its standard to have a "is it racist" thread though.

You said Pauline gave a bad name to black women in another thread. That is racist. Why are you saying one woman is representing an entire race and gender?

[Vicky.]

I don't know if you recall but on this forum and on digitalspy, whilst a lot of people were supportive of Pauline, there were a lot who had reservations, with many stating comments like; "something a bit iffy about her", "she's going to be nasty".

Funny how these people can predict the future, isn't it?

And this was when she hadn't even done anything :joker:
I rarely read digital spy..only when I am very bored so I don't know what they thought :p

I recall about 90% support on here though originally. Until she showed her nasty side.

[user104658]

All you can see is a sea of people. Some white, and some black. Don't matter what color, all that matters we gathered together to celebrate for the same cause. Don't matter the weather... If it rains let it rain, yeah, the wetter the better... They ain't gonna stop us, they can't, we stronger now more than ever. They tell us "no" we say "yeah", they tell us "stop" we say "go", rebel with a rebel yell, raise hell, we gonna let 'em know!

Stomp, push, shove, mush, **** Bush, and Pauline because she's a prick.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

I rarely read digital spy..only when I am very bored so I don't know what they thought :p

I recall about 90% support on here though originally. Until she showed her nasty side.

I give up. Have a nice day.

[jet]

I don't know if you recall but on this forum and on digitalspy, whilst a lot of people were supportive of Pauline, there were a lot who had reservations, with many stating comments like; "something a bit iffy about her", "she's going to be nasty".

Funny how these people can predict the future, isn't it?

And this was when she hadn't even done anything :joker:

Oh yeah, that must be because she is black, right? I didn't like Pauline on the launch night, but I loved Toya. Funny that, eh? Now I don't like Toya that much either. I must have mistaken her for a white women on the first show. Silly me.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

Oh yeah, that must be because she is black, right? I didn't like Pauline on the launch night, but I loved Toya. Funny that, eh? Now I don't like Toya that much either. I must have mistaken her for a white women on the first show. Silly me.

In my original post on this thread, I said there is nothing wrong with disliking a housemate. So for the last time, stop using lies to support your argument.

I am done with this thread now because issues like this make me angry, of course everyone is going to deny it.

Bye.

[Doogle]

No, she's just a twat

But there are some racists on here

[lovebigbrotheruk]

No, she's just a twat

But there are some racists on here

You have just summed up my point beautifully. Thanks :wavey:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

You said Pauline gave a bad name to black women in another thread. That is racist. Why are you saying one woman is representing an entire race and gender?

Because Pauline was talking about herself as a black woman that's why i brought black into it.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

Because Pauline was talking about herself as a black woman that's why i brought black into it.

Oh, I did not know you said that :nono:

[Vicky.]

No, she's just a twat

But there are some racists on here

You have just summed up my point beautifully. Thanks :wavey:

Doogle..would you say it was anywhere near 30% of the forum?

And do you think calling Pauline nasty names is proof someone is racist, or just people going OTT as they do every year?

[Doogle]

Doogle..would you say it was anywhere near 30% of the forum?

And do you think calling Pauline nasty names is proof someone is racist, or just people going OTT as they do every year?

:joker: Not even 3%, just a select few but they tend to be trolls that people pay minimal attention to

And from experience of multiple BB's here, people get very heated in the moment when name-calling and it's all housemates, regardless of age, colour, gender, sexuality etc. I'm guilty of it

[lovebigbrotheruk]

Doogle..would you say it was anywhere near 30% of the forum?

And do you think calling Pauline nasty names is proof someone is racist, or just people going OTT as they do every year?

Okay, you win. Have it.

[SoBig]

Race always plays a factor. Even if its a small part. Lets not kid ourselves. But Pauline is truly a despicable human being.

[calyman]

I cannot recall such venom being directed at a house mate as is now being directed at Pauline. Ok she may be a pain in the backside to live with, but I just have a feeling that a lot of the Pauline hate posts are just plain closet racists. It is only a game show ffs.

Do you agree that there is something not right here?

I think those who play the racism card can obscure the very real damage that racism causes. To my mind, claiming racism where none exists is as bad as not challenging racism when it does occur.

Your "feeling" that many of the posters here are "plain closet racists" absolutely offends me.

Pauline is an ignorant, nasty, hectoring and bullying human being. The fact that she is black has absolutely nothing to do with her unpopularity.

[SoBig]

Because Pauline was talking about herself as a black woman that's why i brought black into it.
You're the same one that made a thread calling Mark black and asking why he needed fake tan.

I'm sure if some white housemates came off looking nasty. You wouldn't go around saying they are making white people as a whole look bad.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

You're the same one that made a thread calling Mark black and asking why he needed fake tan.

I'm sure if some white housemates came off looking nasty. You wouldn't go around saying they are making white people as a whole look bad.

:worship:

[Jemal]

I have been racially abused on here more than 15 times

[M X]

Absolutely not. The dislike for Pauline is because she is a horrible human being. There would be no difference if she was white.

[susie q]

Its nothing to do with race, Toyahs been pretty nasty but still has supporters.
Pauline is just a bully.

[LittleVixen]

Want to bring up the racial card - there is always one isn't there, maybe it just could be the fact she is not very nice

[Robodog]

Racism?

Seriously?

People dislike Pauline because of the intense, manipulative egotistical things she says and does. Not because of her skin colour! IS that not blindingly obvious?

People dislike Helen for similar reasons. Are also they racist for disliking Helen then?

Because - like Pauline - Helen also has a RACIAL type.

[kistar]

Racism?

Seriously?

People dislike Pauline because of the intense, manipulative egotistical things she says and does. Not because of her skin colour! IS that not blindingly obvious?

People dislike Helen for similar reasons. Are also they racist for disliking Helen then?

Because - like Pauline - Helen also has a RACIAL type.


Exactly racism can work both ways, is Pauline racist because she really does not like Jale?No not all she just doesn't like her regardless of colour.

[Miranda123]

I cannot recall such venom being directed at a house mate as is now being directed at Pauline. Ok she may be a pain in the backside to live with, but I just have a feeling that a lot of the Pauline hate posts are just plain closet racists. It is only a game show ffs.

Do you agree that there is something not right here?

Oh God here we go, theres always one of you

Pauline is a foul nauseating human being

Toya is a foul nauseating human being

Steven is a foul nauseating human being

Marlon is a really nice housemate

[Robodog]

Oh God here we go, theres always one of you

Pauline is a foul nauseating human being

Toya is a foul nauseating human being

Steven is a foul nauseating human being

Marlon is a really nice housemate

Get the point idiot!!!!

Exactly.

If people were talking about nice Marlon in the same way they talked about horrible Pauline then one might question it.

But everyone seems to recoil from Pauline's intense egotism (quite rightly) and everyone seems to warm to Marlon's easy going nature (quite rightly).

For viewers watching the show, the housemate's race is no more relevant than their height. It's all about the person.

[Blue Cadillac]

Also, Jale seems to have some substantial support on this forum. I would take a bet that by birth Jale is of a different race, given her name, yet I don't detect an outpouring of hatred for her, which kind of quashes the 'racism' card. It has to be more about Pauline's vitriolic claptrap than anything remotely racial.

[Northern Monkey]

What? Really?I give up.So if you don't like every black person you see then you're racist?Lolololo

[SoBig]

Also, Jale seems to have some substantial support on this forum. I would take a bet that by birth Jale is of a different race, given her name, yet I don't detect an outpouring of hatred for her, which kind of quashes the 'racism' card. It has to be more about Pauline's vitriolic claptrap than anything remotely racial.
Don't you mean ethnicity? :conf3:

[rionablue]

I cannot recall such venom being directed at a house mate as is now being directed at Pauline. Ok she may be a pain in the backside to live with, but I just have a feeling that a lot of the Pauline hate posts are just plain closet racists. It is only a game show ffs.

Do you agree that there is something not right here?

I cant BELIEVE you posted this thread westfield. There may be a diverse range of people in these forums with very different opinions but there are NO RACISTS. If a contestant is mean and vicious and horrible to people we will dislike them no matter WHAT the colour of their skin is. Toya has a very good following and a lot of people like Marlon also!!!!!

[Lex]

Oh do bugger off with the racism crap. It's nothing to do with her colour and everything to do with the fact that she's just horrible.

Livia's always right! :thumbs: ...bugger off with the obligatory ,intentionally and inflammatory 'racial acrimony' threads! :nono:...she's just not nice!

[lily.]

So by that reckoning if someone hates a white person in the house they too must be racist? Or me hating Mark means I must be homophobic? :sleep:

Pauline is a nasty old bitch, I couldn't care less what colour she is, she is a nasty bully inside... :nono:


AGEIST!










haha.

[lily.]

I have been racially abused on here more than 15 times


Are you black or white?

[Sam:)]

Yes, thats exactly it. I hate her because she is black. If she was a vile, bullying, pathetic white person it would be a completely different story

[Jords]

You do realise Pauline was the early favourite upon launch night? ffs

[Marsh.]

Oh do bugger off with the racism crap. It's nothing to do with her colour and everything to do with the fact that she's just horrible.

This.

Why does the racism card always get thrown about even when they are horrible people?

[Marsh.]

I have been racially abused on here more than 15 times

Where was this? I'm sure the mods would've stepped in if that was the case.

[BigBuk]

Its 2014, I really don't think anyone cares about race and the minority that do are idiots. I dislike Pauline because of her personality not her race. I've liked previous black HMs just because I dislike Pauline doesn't make me a racist.

[Lola844]

I don't think it's racial, Jackie Travers got the same response for doing it to Gina. So no, I don't think it's racial. I AM BLACK and I don't agree with this at all.

[Marsh.]

Jackie Travers did what to Gina?

[BigBuk]

I can remember Jackie having a go at Gina for some reason to do with food ( I think ) a few times but she did it to Dexter throughout the series, tbf though she didn't get anywhere near the hate that Paulines getting, not because she's white but because Paulines more nastier about it.

[Marsh.]

Oh yes, I remember that now, she would always jump on anyone for so much as opening the fridge. :laugh:

But yes, she wasn't nasty about it most of the time.

[BigBuk]

Yeah, I didn't like Jackie but she was a lot better than Pauline about food.

[Lola844]

I can remember Jackie having a go at Gina for some reason to do with food ( I think ) a few times but she did it to Dexter throughout the series, tbf though she didn't get anywhere near the hate that Paulines getting, not because she's white but because Paulines more nastier about it.

Yep Travers did the same but she wasn't as nasty. Pauline did it in a nastier way because no one called her out on it. I remember Charlie telling her mom she was out of line.

Everyone should have told her to use a less aggressive method to get her point across.

[Shaun]

I strike again. http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201812

6-1 - After a black housemate is evicted 2 threads will be posted asking if the Great British public is racist

[Marsh.]

She's not been evicted. :idc:

[Shaun]

yet :p

[Ammi]

I strike again. http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201812

..haha, I've never noticed that thread before...


10/1 - As the housemates' friends and family nominate in a shock week seven twist, Karl (Ramsay) recognises one of them as his mum. He is later discovered to be tripping.


150/1 - ElProximo comes back and supports the transgender housemate


..perfect..:lovedup:..

[Pete.]

No not at all

I'm still kinda stanning for Toya but Pauline is a bully

[Blue Cadillac]

Don't you mean ethnicity? :conf3:

Yes, of course, but splitting hairs really. Can someone not be of 'mixed race' anymore? I probably am.