Economical with the truth

[Cherie]

:umm2: used someone elses lip balm and claimed she didn't realise..really , I would have been livid if I was Helen, she was pretty restrained under the circumstances, then she went into the bathroom and made out she had had been shouted at for no reason...:laugh:

[cookiemonster]

it's just lip balm though

[Jordan.]

I doubt Jale would intentionally put herself at the risk of catching herpes

[Josy]

She said it was a genuine mistake though, if she had done it on purpose I doubt she would have walked in using it in front of Helen..

[user104658]

I doubt Jale would intentionally put herself at the risk of catching herpes

:joker: I was literally about to reply with "Would anyone really intentionally use HELEN'S lip balm?"

[Cherie]

it's just lip balm though

yes but its the principal of taking something belonging to someone else, and then conveniently not mentioning it in the bathroom.

[armand.kay]

I doubt Jale would intentionally put herself at the risk of catching herpes

basically this.

[MeMyselfAndI]

I doubt Jale would intentionally put herself at the risk of catching herpes

lmfao

[Cherie]

She said it was a genuine mistake though, if she had done it on purpose I doubt she would have walked in using it in front of Helen..

Wouldn't you know your own stuff even if it is just lip balm??

[Kazanne]

:umm2: used someone elses lip balm and claimed she didn't realise..really , I would have been livid if I was Helen, she was pretty restrained under the circumstances, then she went into the bathroom and made out she had had been shouted at for no reason...:laugh:

I think I read today Jale thought it was hers and she'de picked up the wrong one,and credit to her she didn't go in the bathroom shouting her gob off about it and she could have done,also did Helen really have to be so foul in front of an audience?

[Josy]

yes but its the principal of taking something belonging to someone else, and then conveniently not mentioning it in the bathroom.

If she said it was the one with the sticker on the table then that sounds as if theres more than one of the same lip balm floating about in there

[cookiemonster]

If she said it was the one with the sticker on the table then that sounds as if theres more than one of the same lip balm floating about in there
yeh exactly. Helen said hers is the one with the sticker on it. Jale must not have seen the sticker

[smeagol]

i wish jale would of said yeah if you think thats bad im also wearing your knickers lol

[Josy]

Wouldn't you know your own stuff even if it is just lip balm??

They are getting toiletries providing this year as product placement though plus Mark won a box of stuff in a task that's why I assumed straight away a few of them had the same lip balm.

[Livia]

i wish jale would of said yeah if you think thats bad im also wearing your knickers lol

Hahaha....

[Josy]

i wish jale would of said yeah if you think thats bad im also wearing your knickers lol

:joker:

[Kazanne]

i wish jale would of said yeah if you think thats bad im also wearing your knickers lol

Ew,smeagy,who would really want to wear those bad boys,Ew,

[Cherie]

i wish jale would of said yeah if you think thats bad im also wearing your knickers lol

:joker:

[Samm]

I doubt Jale would intentionally put herself at the risk of catching herpes

:laugh: let helen live

[Cherie]

They are getting toiletries providing this year as product placement though plus Mark won a box of stuff in a task that's why I assumed straight away a few of them had the same lip balm.

Oh really I didn't know that, Helen knew it was hers straight away though.

[Sophiee]

it's just lip balm though
I wouldn't particularly want somebody else using my lip balm... helen had every right to be annoyed about it although it obviously wasn't jale's fault if she really didn't know.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

I wouldn't particularly want somebody else using my lip balm... helen had every right to be annoyed about it although it obviously wasn't jale's fault if she really didn't know.

Lets face it, Helen was spoiling for a fight with Jale and Jale didn't stoop to her level unlike Danielle the other day, this would have probably annoyed Helen more than the fact that Jale was using her stuff. Well done Jale and she owned up straight away.

[Cherie]

Lets face it, Helen was spoiling for a fight with Jale and Jale didn't stoop to her level unlike Danielle the other day, this would have probably annoyed Helen more than the fact that Jale was using her stuff. Well done Jale and she owned up straight away.

Yes but Jale said in the bathroom, "went in there, got my head bitten off" she didn't elaborate as to why. she knows how to play the game does Jale, not saying its a bad thing, just interesting how she twisted what happened to favour herself. She could have said I took Helens lipbalm by mistake but she didn't.

[Josy]

Lets face it, Helen was spoiling for a fight with Jale and Jale didn't stoop to her level unlike Danielle the other day, this would have probably annoyed Helen more than the fact that Jale was using her stuff. Well done Jale and she owned up straight away.

This is exactly the way I seen it.

Plus not sure why Helens getting so pissed off she should be used to sharing.. :hehe:

[Marsh.]

Jale mentioned it being the "one with the sticker on" insinuating there is more than one lip balm floating about the house that looks similar.

Helen was spoiling for an argument either way.

They were slagging her off and getting themselves riled up about her before she even entered the room, then when she did Helen couldn't wait to mouth off. Took the lip balm and wanted to prolong it further with the "Do you normally take stuff that's not yours". Just a gutter bitch.

[chuff me dizzy]

I could not use it if it were someone elses ,and if anyone used mine it would go in bin

[Cherie]

This is exactly the way I seen it.

Plus not sure why Helens getting so pissed off she should be used to sharing.. :hehe:

:smug:

[Marsh.]

Yes but Jale said in the bathroom, "went in there, got my head bitten off" she didn't elaborate as to why. she knows how to play the game does Jale, not saying its a bad thing, just interesting how she twisted what happened to favour herself. She could have said I took Helens lipbalm by mistake but she didn't.

To be fair to her I don't think she was.

Kimberley pressed her for further information about what she meant but Jale said "forget about it". If she wanted to twist things she'd have told Kim a long tale about Helen but she made a motion as though "forget about it" and didn't elaborate.

[Kazanne]

To be fair to her I don't think she was.

Kimberley pressed her for further information about what she meant but Jale said "forget about it". If she wanted to twist things she'd have told Kim a long tale about Helen but she made a motion as though "forget about it" and didn't elaborate.

That;s how i saw it too,she could have had a right old bitch,but she didn't

[kistar]

i wish jale would of said yeah if you think thats bad im also wearing your knickers lol

:joker::joker::joker:

[Adamw92]

I doubt Jale would intentionally put herself at the risk of catching herpes

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

[Cherie]

To be fair to her I don't think she was.

Kimberley pressed her for further information about what she meant but Jale said "forget about it". If she wanted to twist things she'd have told Kim a long tale about Helen but she made a motion as though "forget about it" and didn't elaborate.

what could she bitch about though, she was in the wrong, okay Helen might have over reacted, the way Jale left it, made it out that her head was bitten off for no reason at all.

[rionablue]

I think they were both wrong if I am honest and I like Jale to a point. Jale should know what is and isn't her stuff and where she left it I certainly would know if something wasn't mine. And Helen was like a fishwife as usual. God almighty she could have just made her point in an adult way not shouting the odds in front of her followers

[Marsh.]

what could she bitch about though, she was in the wrong, okay Helen might have over reacted, the way Jale left it, made it out that her head was bitten off for no reason at all.

You said she was economical with the truth and is twisting things.

But if she did that intentionally (the lip balm was a mistake and Helen was being confrontational) then she'd have happily bitched to Kim is what I meant.

But she didn't, she waved it off and didn't bother.

[Cherie]

You said she was economical with the truth and is twisting things.

But if she did that intentionally (the lip balm was a mistake and Helen was being confrontational) then she'd have happily bitched to Kim is what I meant.

But she didn't, she waved it off and didn't bother.

I can't be bothered explaining, the match is on, and if you can't see that she held back the reason Helen bit her head off then I really can't be bothered to talk you through it :tongue:

[Mystic Mock]

:umm2: used someone elses lip balm and claimed she didn't realise..really , I would have been livid if I was Helen, she was pretty restrained under the circumstances, then she went into the bathroom and made out she had had been shouted at for no reason...:laugh:

Jale is really annoying me, and not in an entertaining way.

As I said in another thread if it was role reversed the public would going berserk plus Jale playing the victim for the millionth time and the second week has only just started.

[Marsh.]

I can't be bothered explaining, the match is on, and if you can't see that she held back the reason Helen bit her head off then I really can't be bothered to talk you through it :tongue:

No need to be rude.

What I'm saying is, she didn't just hold back the REASON she held back any NAMES too.

She didn't want to talk about it full stop. If she was being sneaky then surely she'd have mentioned Helen?

The lip balm incident itself seems like a genuine mistake, Jale mentions the "sticker" meaning there's a few lip balms lying around that are all the same and she believed it was hers. Helen did bite her head off. After Jale apologised and admitted it was a mistake, Helen lunged in for an argument with the "Do you always take stuff that isn't yours?" So IMO she DID have her head bitten off.

[joeysteele]

Gross overreaction by Helen in my view.

[Mystic Mock]

yeh exactly. Helen said hers is the one with the sticker on it. Jale must not have seen the sticker

Or she deliberately was winding Helen up because she (Jale) hadn't played Pity Me for 5 minutes.

[Livia]

So at last, the Jale haters have something to latch on to. She used someone else's lip gloss. What a bitch, eh? Using someone else's lip gloss kind of justifies a week and a half of nasty, malicious bullying at the hands of a bunch of psychos, dimwits and a prostitute.

[Mystic Mock]

To be fair to her I don't think she was.

Kimberley pressed her for further information about what she meant but Jale said "forget about it". If she wanted to twist things she'd have told Kim a long tale about Helen but she made a motion as though "forget about it" and didn't elaborate.

It was quite convenient that she said "forget about it“ once she had to go into detail though.

[Livia]

It was quite convenient that she said "forget about it“ once she had to go into detail though.

She should maybe take a vow of silence and let the others all say whatever they like. They've all bitched for Britain in there. All of them.

[Mystic Mock]

So at last, the Jale haters have something to latch on to. She used someone else's lip gloss. What a bitch, eh? Using someone else's lip gloss kind of justifies a week and a half of nasty, malicious bullying at the hands of a bunch of psychos, dimwits and a prostitute.

Jale secluded herself from the second night that she was in the house, how does that turn into she's being bullied?

[Mystic Mock]

She should maybe take a vow of silence and let the others all say whatever they like. They've all bitched for Britain in there. All of them.

At least bitching for Britain can be entertaining, unlike crying for Britain.

[Livia]

At least bitching for Britain can be entertaining, unlike crying for Britain.

Awww Mock, you have to admit she's been put through the bloody mill this week. I'd have walked. It's like school.... mind you I'd have lamped someone before I left.

[lily.]

I doubt Jale would intentionally put herself at the risk of catching herpes

LOL

[lily.]

Awww Mock, you have to admit she's been put through the bloody mill this week. I'd have walked. It's like school.... mind you I'd have lamped someone before I left.

This. I'd have been chucked out of there, cos I'd have lost the plot by now and went for one of them..


So at last, the Jale haters have something to latch on to. She used someone else's lip gloss. What a bitch, eh? Using someone else's lip gloss kind of justifies a week and a half of nasty, malicious bullying at the hands of a bunch of psychos, dimwits and a prostitute.

This also. I don't get the Jale hate at all. These are the kind of people who blame rape victims for dressing too slutty..

[Mystic Mock]

Awww Mock, you have to admit she's been put through the bloody mill this week. I'd have walked. It's like school.... mind you I'd have lamped someone before I left.

I think people have been horrible to Jale, but not to the extent she herself and her fans would have us believe.

[Mystic Mock]

This. I'd have been chucked out of there, cos I'd have lost the plot by now and went for one of them..




This also. I don't get the Jale hate at all. These are the kind of people who blame rape victims for dressing too slutty..

Wtf at the rape comment!? Jale has not been that badly treated, I've saw way worse when I was in School.

[lily.]

Wtf at the rape comment!? Jale has not been that badly bullied, I've saw way worse when I was in School.

So bullying has a scale of severity in your mind?

[InOne]

Jale was lucky that Kim and Ashleigh took the time out to listen. I don't know many other HM's that would put up with her nonsense after Jale made such horrible accusations against Kim. Jale could learn a lot from those two and hopefully that experience makes her a better person and a better HM.

[lily.]

Joe, you're on a mission tonight.. lol

[Cherie]

[QUOTE=Marsh.;6942530]No need to be rude.

What I'm saying is, she didn't just hold back the REASON she held back any NAMES too.

She didn't want to talk about it full stop. If she was being sneaky then surely she'd have mentioned Helen?

The lip balm incident itself seems like a genuine mistake, Jale mentions the "sticker" meaning there's a few lip balms lying around that are all the same and she believed it was hers. Helen did bite her head off. After Jale apologised and admitted it was a mistake, Helen lunged in for an argument with the "Do you always take stuff that isn't yours?" So IMO she DID have her head bitten off.[/QU

Lol sorry Morsh world cup takes precedence over discussing the minutae off BB

[InOne]

Joe, you're on a mission tonight.. lol

A mission of truth!

[Marsh.]

No need to be rude.

What I'm saying is, she didn't just hold back the REASON she held back any NAMES too.

She didn't want to talk about it full stop. If she was being sneaky then surely she'd have mentioned Helen?

The lip balm incident itself seems like a genuine mistake, Jale mentions the "sticker" meaning there's a few lip balms lying around that are all the same and she believed it was hers. Helen did bite her head off. After Jale apologised and admitted it was a mistake, Helen lunged in for an argument with the "Do you always take stuff that isn't yours?" So IMO she DID have her head bitten off.

Lol sorry Morsh world cup takes precedence over discussing the minutae off BB

:fist:

[lily.]

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-you-are-on-a-mission-from-god.png

[Mystic Mock]

So bullying has a scale of severity in your mind?

That was a grammatical mistake on my part.

But I love the fact that you can't backup your rapist sympathizer's comment.

[lily.]

Oh I can back it up.

People sympathise with rapists and blame the victims.

I was comparing this situation as people are blaming Jale for how other people are treating her.

I love that you make assumptions about me.

[jet]

Jale was lucky that Kim and Ashleigh took the time out to listen. I don't know many other HM's that would put up with her nonsense after Jale made such horrible accusations against Kim. Jale could learn a lot from those two and hopefully that experience makes her a better person and a better HM.

What horrible accusations about Kim did Jale make? :conf:

[Mystic Mock]

Jale dislikers aren't like that in particular though so it's great how you assume we're all like that all because we think that Jale isn't perfect.

[InOne]

What horrible accusations about Kim did Jale make? :conf:

Be warned Jet, it's not pretty: http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=253053

[lily.]

Some Jale dislikers are blaming her for how she is being treated. Those are the ones I was referring to.

[Marsh.]

It's not about thinking that Jale is perfect or not.

It's about blaming Jale for the way people like Helen and Pauline treat her and talk to her.

Even to the point where Pauline is so obsessed with Jale that she's waking in the night and bitching about how much bed covers she has.

[Cherie]

Some Jale dislikers are blaming her for how she is being treated. Those are the ones I was referring to.

Like who? I simply made an observation and posted my thoughts, how is that blaming her for how she is being treated? I happen to think Jale is okay and you will be hard pushed to find any negative comments about her from me, though i did think her laughter in the DR was a bit forced. BTW your rape analogy is ridiculous. Just to remind you as you seem to have a bit of difficulty remembering forum rules we are here to discuss HM's not forum members.

[lily.]

Like who? I simply made an observation and posted my thoughts, how is that blaming her for how she is being treated? I happen to think Jale is okay and you will be hard pushed to find any negative comments about her from me, though i did think her laughter in the DR was a bit forced. BTW your rape analogy is ridiculous. Just to remind you as you seem to have a bit of difficulty remembering forum rules we are here to discuss HM's not forum members.

****ing hell cherie.. get off your perch... did I say I was referring to you?

[Cherie]

****ing hell cherie.. get off your perch... did I say I was referring to you?

I shouldn't mix football with the forum just skimming posts. I'm off now before i offend any one else :laugh:

[Marsh.]

Yeah, Cherie get off your perch. :fist:

[lily.]

Oy Marsh.. don't nick my saying.. [which I nicked from someone else]..

[Sophiee]

Yes but Jale said in the bathroom, "went in there, got my head bitten off" she didn't elaborate as to why. she knows how to play the game does Jale, not saying its a bad thing, just interesting how she twisted what happened to favour herself. She could have said I took Helens lipbalm by mistake but she didn't.
I agree with this. helen could have made a bigger deal out of it so I don't see how she was 'spoiling for a fight'. she's made it clear she doesn't like jale but it wasn't like she had no reasoning behind the comments she made. jale also made out as if helen randomly had a go at her in the bathroom to the other girls.

[GypsyGoth]

Jale saw the chance to get some free lip balm and she took it.

[Marsh.]

I agree with this. helen could have made a bigger deal out of it so I don't see how she was 'spoiling for a fight'. she's made it clear she doesn't like jale but it wasn't like she had no reasoning behind the comments she made. jale also made out as if helen randomly had a go at her in the bathroom to the other girls.

She tried to.
She asked if the lip balm was hers, Jale realised, apologised and returned it.

Then Jale sits down and Helen takes it further with the "Do you always take other people's stuff" completely ignoring the fact Jale didn't know it was hers.

[lily.]

Jale saw the chance to get some free lip balm and she took it.

This.

I think she should be applauded for her opportunistic approach.

[Hofman]

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-you-are-on-a-mission-from-god.png

:joker::joker::joker:

Hide this from Danielle PLEASE

[lily.]

lol

[Forgetmenot]

Hi folks, just joined..and catching up. I miss a lot on screen as deaf and sub titles often take a hike. I see so little of some of them (housemates) on screen, hardly know names of some.
Dislike the Irish Catholic Martyr though, mouth like some very old fish wife. Dislike Helen, factual expressions, body language and everything that comes out of her mouth.
Like Chris, got brains and awareness and sensitivity.
Pauline is vicious and vile, every move, every word, every expression is calculated pure poison wrapped in her playing yuk 'fake mummy'..third nomination bloke, is it Steven? So up him self, so vain, such a wimp..in real life can any one seeing him being devoted to Pauline? Get real! Thsts enough for now lol!

[lily.]

Hi Forgetmenot.. I can tell I'm going to get along well with you...

You might be missing some of the action due to your hearing impairment, but there's sod-all wrong with your instincts there, cos you're spot on with your observations. :)