Jale does NOT isolate herself...

[jet]

Many of those who say Jale is not being bullied have pointed out that she isolates herself from the other Hm's as a way to portray herself as a victim.
Well, the edits at last tonight have shown that she DOES integrate with other HM's. She was shown having perfectly normal interactions with several of them; she was shown being empathetic with a HM; she was shown boogieing and enjoying herself at the party.
So that accusation is well and truly trashed. :spin:

[Robodog]

Many of those who say Jale is not being bullied have pointed out that she isolates herself from the other Hm's as a way to portray herself as a victim.
Well, the edits at last tonight have shown that she DOES integrate with other HM's. She was shown having perfectly normal interactions with several of them; she was shown being empathetic with a HM; she was shown boogieing and enjoying herself at the party.
So that accusation is well and truly trashed. :spin:

Agreed.

Last night when they were all together trying to work out the power HM, they all gave their theories then Jale joined in and said she thought it was Kim. And then she got blamed for saying that!

She's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't!

[RomGurl]

She doesn't isolate herself nor does she want to be isolated. I think if her perma-nom was removed she would have more confidence to stand up to the bully and her cronies

[Saph]

people are still going on about this?

[Lostie!]

people are still going on about this?

It was mentioned as recently as last night's show, it's hardly an old issue being dredged up by the forum.

[Niamh.]

Also, at the end of last nights show, Helen and co all left the room because Jale was in there and apparently listening to what they were saying............that bitch, how dare she be in the same room as them and not cover her ears

[HBB1508]

Agreed.

Last night when they were all together trying to work out the power HM, they all gave their theories then Jale joined in and said she thought it was Kim. And then she got blamed for saying that!

She's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't!

This - I was absolutely gobsmacked that after they had all been naming who they thought was the PH that the cronies then pounced on Jale for mentioning Kim - what a bunch of two faced bitches they are the girl can do nothing right in their eyes.

[Vanessa]

She does tend to go off by herself a lot. I want to see her stand up for herself more.

[Niamh.]

She does tend to go off by herself a lot. I want to see her stand up for herself more.

Is it any wonder though when she's insulted when she's in the same room as Helen? She did on last nights HLs and the night before

[Vanessa]

Is it any wonder though when she's insulted when she's in the same room as Helen? She did on last nights HLs and the night before

She needs to fight back. I like Helen, but i would not take any insults off her.

[Niamh.]

She needs to fight back. I like Helen, but i would not take any insults off her.

I guess you need to try and put yourself in her position though, it's not so easy when you're trapped in the same house and Helen doesn't come across as a very reasonable or considerate person

[Vanessa]

I guess you need to try and put yourself in her position though, it's not so easy when you're trapped in the same house and Helen doesn't come across as a very reasonable or considerate person

I understand, but you need to stand up for yourself.

[Ellen]

Do you not think the group had a go at Jale because Kim had already told the some HM's Jale included that she was annoyed at Jale telling people she was the power house mate?

[smeagol]

she sits outside and talks to the cameras er i mean herself lol, she needs that lone time to speak to the cameras oops i mean herself

[chuff me dizzy]

She has no option ,its either risk the whole house turning on her if she opens her mouth or stay away from them

[Lola844]

Also, at the end of last nights show, Helen and co all left the room because Jale was in there and apparently listening to what they were saying............that bitch, how dare she be in the same room as them and not cover her ears

Toya stayed and asked her what happened. Told her she should speak to Helen about it, because she didn't think Helen wouldn't do that. Ash, Kim, Helen and Steven left the room.

[Kazanne]

Many of those who say Jale is not being bullied have pointed out that she isolates herself from the other Hm's as a way to portray herself as a victim.
Well, the edits at last tonight have shown that she DOES integrate with other HM's. She was shown having perfectly normal interactions with several of them; she was shown being empathetic with a HM; she was shown boogieing and enjoying herself at the party.
So that accusation is well and truly trashed. :spin:

Yes she was dancing and trying to intergrate Jet,but I never ever thought otherwise , it's just the people trying to justify some of the housemates ****ty behaviour.

[chuff me dizzy]

I understand, but you need to stand up for yourself.

If it were just her v Helen I think she would, but Helens got a lot of people behind her

[Sophiee]

it just seems like she does sometimes because she always appears to be sat in the smoking area alone or talking to herself out there.

[Kazanne]

it just seems like she does sometimes because she always appears to be sat in the smoking area alone or talking to herself out there.

So where else can she go for solice ?

[Tarryn]

it just seems like she does sometimes because she always appears to be sat in the smoking area alone or talking to herself out there.

What else can she do ?.
Every time she tries to join in she get's called names or is accused of something.
I'm tired of people trying to justify the nasty people by saying it's Jale or Christopher's fault.

[Sophiee]

So where else can she go for solice ?
What else can she do ?.
Every time she tries to join in she get's called names or is accused of something.
I'm tired of people trying to justify the nasty people by saying it's Jale or Christopher's fault.
it's not like she doesn't get on with people in the house, ashleigh, christopher, chris, kimberly(?) to name a few.

[Tarryn]

it's not like she doesn't get on with people in the house, ashleigh, christopher, chris, kimberly(?) to name a few.

Have they ever stood up for her ?.
Have they ever really comforted her ?.
No.

[jet]

it's not like she doesn't get on with people in the house, ashleigh, christopher, chris, kimberly(?) to name a few.

Yes, she does get on with them and we have seen her with them and talking to them. We have seen her dancing and having fun. So what is your point exactly?

[Kazanne]

it's not like she doesn't get on with people in the house, ashleigh, christopher, chris, kimberly(?) to name a few.

I don't think Ashleigh and Kimberly are bothered about Jale,she often is seen talking to Chris and maybe some of them are in the company of Helen and her mob,for Jale to feel comfortable with joining them.

[Sophiee]

Have they ever stood up for her ?.
Have they ever really comforted her ?.
No.
the majority of them get on with everyone, I doubt they'd want to sacrifice their friendship with other housemates just for the expense of jale.

Yes, she does get on with them and we have seen her with them and talking to them. We have seen her dancing and having fun. So what is your point exactly?
how many times, once? it's a rare occasion that I see her having fun with others. she always seems to be sat alone smoking or looking miserable.

I don't think Ashleigh and Kimberly are bothered about Jale,she often is seen talking to Chris and maybe some of them are in the company of Helen and her mob,for Jale to feel comfortable with joining them.
there's not much the others can do about it if jale doesn't feel comfortable in certain housemates' presence. that's basically making it awkward for herself. I've seen them trying to include her numerous times though.

[Vanessa]

I think she does. Why can't she fight back, instead of running away? :conf:

[jet]

I think she does. Why can't she fight back, instead of running away? :conf:

If you are confused about that, there are plenty of excellent posts you could read that give reasons why she doesn't.....

[Vanessa]

If you are confused about that, there are plenty of excellent posts you could read that give reasons why she doesn't.....

I think she's making things worse for herself.

[Vanessa]

the majority of them get on with everyone, I doubt they'd want to sacrifice their friendship with other housemates just for the expense of jale.


how many times, once? it's a rare occasion that I see her having fun with others. she always seems to be sat alone smoking or looking miserable.


there's not much the others can do about it if jale doesn't feel comfortable in certain housemates' presence. that's basically making it awkward for herself. I've seen them trying to include her numerous times though.

This is the reason i can't support her.