Helen and the prostitute thing/is it relevant..?..

[Ammi]

..I'm really no fan of Helen at all as a person and how she's been in the house with her part in how Jale has been treated but in so many threads I've read name calling/'cheap jokes' that refers to what she does/did for a living and not just on the forum but on the internet in general...I know CBB is different because we know something about the housemates before they enter the house so our opinions can be biased from that and Jim Davidson was a good example because he didn't have the most 'positive' of pasts but we were always reminded that judgement should just be on behaviour within the house/does the same not apply here even though we had this pre-knowledge of her ...I find it personally really irritating and irrelevant to read so many snidey remarks about Helen and what she does for a living because I don't think it's relevant to 'judging' her in the house and also a little bit detracts from what is actually happening in the isolation of Jale...

..thoughts..?...

[ruiphillips]

Once a slapper, always a slapper

[AnnieK]

Nope her previous occupation doesn't have any bearing for me. Her attitude and treatment of others is what I judge her on.....both stink IMO.

[Ammi]

Once a slapper, always a slapper

..is that relevant to being referred to with her behaviour in the house though..?..isn't it more about how awful and mean she's being with Jale..?..

[chuff me dizzy]

I think its down to personal choice or opinion ,everytime i look at her I see an wizened up twisted prossie ,as someone said above ,once a prossie always a prossie

[Marc]

Yeah she's a footballer shagging *****

[AnnieK]

She shagged a football??? That's a new low :laugh:

[Fish_Fingers]

She's hardly using this opportunity to present herself in a positive light. If she were, I think most people would probably respect her a lot more and give her a second chance. Her history would more than likely be forgotten by most, if she conducted herself with grace and decorum. She may even have managed to forge a brighter future for herself.

Unfortunately she has not been able to make the most of the opportunity presented to her, and while some of the comments aimed at her may seem harsh, I cannot really feel any sympathy for her. It'll take a MASSIVE about-face for her to turn it around.

[Marc]

OI. It's early

[Cherie]

No i don't think her what she did for a living had any more relevance than Kim being a playboy bunny. Helen came into the house to show she was so much more than her past, her being a prostitute pales into insignificance as to what she really is a nasty excuse for a human being.

[Jamesy]

I think most people are just joking around rather than making a serious remark about her past.

[erinp5]

It is to Ash and Marlon ,they want a slut in the house .

[smeagol]

bb are going to put a red light in the window just so she can earn some more cash

jokes aside i judge the person. and she is disgusting in every way and the fact shes a 2 dollar ***** just shows how low the hoe will go

[Alf]

I think its down to personal choice or opinion ,everytime i look at her I see an wizened up twisted prossie ,as someone said above ,once a prossie always a prossie
It's a noble trade, valuable members of the community.

[Vanessa]

No, not for me.

[Livia]

If it wasn't for the fact she's a prostitute who shagged someone famous, does anyone think for one minute she'd be in Big Brother? No... she wouldn't. She's be slagging her wares around... wherever it is she slags her wares. And all the time she's making hurtful remarks about someone else, she's fair game in my opinion.

[Kizzy]

Thankyou ammi, there have been many housemates who have been , escorts(nikki) porn stars (benedict), madams (hiedi), had affairs and sold stories (natasha)
They weren't given a bad time, and you're totally right those who insisted that jim was given a fair crack of the whip are now focusing almost exclusively on her past.

I don't like the woman, I'm not in agreement with any ill treatment of any housemate at all let's make that clear.
But as big brother created this monster? I compared it to the Stanford prison experiment the other day..
The housemates touched by the power or given 'guard' status are acting totally different to the other 'inmates'

'As the prisoners became more dependent, the guards became more derisive towards them. They held the prisoners in contempt and let the prisoners know it. As the guards’ contempt for them grew, the prisoners became more submissive.

As the prisoners became more submissive, the guards became more aggressive and assertive. They demanded ever greater obedience from the prisoners. The prisoners were dependent on the guards for everything so tried to find ways to please the guards, such as telling tales on fellow prisoners.'
http://www.simplypsychology.org/zimbardo.html

[Niamh.]

I wouldn't judge her on her career choice no and I would never call another woman a slut, slapper etc etc but I do have a low opinion of women who sleep with married men(the men are of course worse *terms and conditions apply* ), will I judge her on that? Yes, absolutely, especially when her personality since she's gone in there has been foul.

[kefln]

Remember when the playboy twin sisters were on CBB?

One of them was really upset that that drunk, who eventually won, pulled her pants down. The public had little sympathy because said twin was a playboy model. The "logic" was that she takes her clothes off for a living, so why should it bother her if someone pulls her pants off for "fun".

And that other girl who had a shopping list online for men to buy her things, can not remember her name. She got a bad reception by many, just for that.


What people do, reflects people's opinion. It really should be about what a HM does in the house. But it often isn't.

[Kizzy]

I don't like men who hit women much, and yet the 'it's in the past' angle was taken with jim, sounds like double standards to me.
I agree with the comment about the twins, they were humiliated regularly and viewed as a 'piece of meat' on the forum with glamour shots of their bottoms shown when they objected to the actions of the house lush.
And yet comments made by marlon to kim made her feel uncomfortable so it's now accepted that her work and her house persona are totally separate?

[Livia]

Once a slapper, always a slapper

Quite. People don't change. No amount of tarting up and plastic surgery will give her one ounce of class.

[Brother Leon]

It was pretty weird how she was bragging that she would rather **** in her own mouth than look at Marlon considering her former profession.

[Kazanne]

Her being a prostitute doesn't really matter to me,BUT when you couple it with the vile person she is,it makes it seem relevant that she is vile in any walk of life.You'de have thought she would have tried at least to be a little decent.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

If it wasn't for the fact she's a prostitute who shagged someone famous, does anyone think for one minute she'd be in Big Brother? No... she wouldn't. She's be slagging her wares around... wherever it is she slags her wares. And all the time she's making hurtful remarks about someone else, she's fair game in my opinion.

100% agree. Although I always thought that women, like her, who slag their wares are usually in the CBB House, especially when those wares are intended for famous people. So many people have agents these days that it makes it difficult for the ordinary Joe Blog to get anywhere.

[calyman]

..I'm really no fan of Helen at all as a person and how she's been in the house with her part in how Jale has been treated but in so many threads I've read name calling/'cheap jokes' that refers to what she does/did for a living and not just on the forum but on the internet in general...I know CBB is different because we know something about the housemates before they enter the house so our opinions can be biased from that and Jim Davidson was a good example because he didn't have the most 'positive' of pasts but we were always reminded that judgement should just be on behaviour within the house/does the same not apply here even though we had this pre-knowledge of her ...I find it personally really irritating and irrelevant to read so many snidey remarks about Helen and what she does for a living because I don't think it's relevant to 'judging' her in the house and also a little bit detracts from what is actually happening in the isolation of Jale...

..thoughts..?...
Here life experience has helped to shape the person she is. If she was a Christian (hah), like Danielle, we would expect a certain standard of behaviour from her. If she was an intellectual (hah), we would expect a more cerebral response to things.

The fact is the things we do, say and experience, shapes determines the type of person we become.

She is a foul, rancid, bullying individual, obviously full of self loathing and resentment. I would suggest her previous lifestyle is very much relevant here in explaining how awful and nasty she is.

Clearly there are reasons for why people may become prostitutes; some do it because they are drug addicts, some because they want as much cash as possible for minimal effort, some choose it as a career. I would suggest Helen become one because she wants more than her abilities and accomplishments can provide her. In that sense, she is a nasty, exploitative, mean spirited skank. Therefore her skanky exploits are very much relevant to the type of person she is now.

[Ellen]

I am not keen on Helen and some of the things she has said have been uncalled for but i am not going to judge her on what she did in her past. I will judge her on how she is in the house & so far she isnt doing good.
I do find it odd how a few of the housemates have said she is nice & funny but we never see that, we just get shown her been bitchy. I guess that is good for BB though.

[Niamh.]

I am not keen on Helen and some of the things she has said have been uncalled for but i am not going to judge her on what she did in her past. I will judge her on how she is in the house & so far she isnt doing good.
I do find it odd how a few of the housemates have said she is nice & funny but we never see that, we just get shown her been bitchy. I guess that is good for BB though.

She probably is nice and funny to the ones she gets on with but the show is an hour long so the arguments and that are just more interesting then her being nice to her friends I guess :shrug:

[Kizzy]

Here life experience has helped to shape the person she is. If she was a Christian (hah), like Danielle, we would expect a certain standard of behaviour from her. If she was an intellectual (hah), we would expect a more cerebral response to things.

The fact is the things we do, say and experience, shapes determines the type of person we become.

She is a foul, rancid, bullying individual, obviously full of self loathing and resentment. I would suggest her previous lifestyle is very much relevant here in explaining how awful and nasty she is.

Clearly there are reasons for why people may become prostitutes; some do it because they are drug addicts, some because they want as much cash as possible for minimal effort, some choose it as a career. I would suggest Helen become one because she wants more than her abilities and accomplishments can provide her. In that sense, she is a nasty, exploitative, mean spirited skank. Therefore her skanky exploits are very much relevant to the type of person she is now.

Then your supposition would be incorrect, she stated it was due to spiraling debt.

'This is the story of an ordinary girl who became a single mother at 16 and then got herself into debt. She had borrowed £500 from a loan shark for a holiday to Spain'

'For almost two years, she slept with men for money. Her most famous client was Wayne Rooney'


http://www.independent.ie/woman/celeb-news/helen-wood-confessions-of-a-working-girl-26750972.html

[Ellen]

She probably is nice and funny to the ones she gets on with but the show is an hour long so the arguments and that are just more interesting then her being nice to her friends I guess :shrug:

Yeah you are probably right Niamh.It would be nice to have a bit of balance, if they can find any with Helen :laugh:

[calyman]

Then your supposition would be incorrect, she stated it was due to spiraling debt.

'This is the story of an ordinary girl who became a single mother at 16 and then got herself into debt. She had borrowed £500 from a loan shark for a holiday to Spain'

'For almost two years, she slept with men for money. Her most famous client was Wayne Rooney'


http://www.independent.ie/woman/celeb-news/helen-wood-confessions-of-a-working-girl-26750972.html
You have missed the point of what I wrote. Do you really think that anything that comes out of the skank's mouth is true. What she says and what she does are in contradiction to each other.

The original question was, is her prostitute's lifestyle relevant to how she acts today. I trust my insight into how she acts, with how she interacts with others. She takes especial delight in trying to bully Jale, who though a plain looking woman has more beauty as a human than the skank does. The skank is a self loathing individual, not because she became a prostitute but because she became a nasty vindictive, money grubbing prossy, wanting everything for minimal effort. Her past is very much relevant to her present. She has lived as a prostitute, not as a woman in need but as a woman in greed.

If you presume that our past does not influence our present, then clearly we see things very differently.

[Kizzy]

You have missed the point of what I wrote. Do you really think that anything that comes out of the skank's mouth is true. What she says and what she does are in contradiction to each other.

The original question was, is her prostitute's lifestyle relevant to how she acts today. I trust my insight into how she acts, with how she interacts with others. She takes especial delight in trying to bully Jale, who though a plain looking woman has more beauty as a human than the skank does. The skank is a self loathing individual, not because she became a prostitute but because she became a nasty vindictive, money grubbing prossy, wanting everything for minimal effort. Her past is very much relevant to her present. She has lived as a prostitute, not as a woman in need but as a woman in greed.

If you presume that our past does not influence our present, then clearly we see things very differently.

No I haven't, don't do a toya on me :laugh: You assume you know helens motives because youve decided in your mind she's a 'skank' that's a given.
The OP questions if it's relevent to apply her past actions to her time in the house as I see it... and if you've taken it upon yourself to be judge, jury and executioner there's nothing else to say.

[Vicky.]

Her past doesn't bother me. I don't tend to judge HMs on their outside life, however I can't help but giggle when shes getting on her high horse about taking other peoples stuff and that :D

[Lostie!]

I don't look down on someone for being a prostitute, and I feel acting like someone is a bad person simply for this is highly unfair. Specifically sleeping with married men knowingly, however, is a different matter.

Still, I intended to judge her purely on her in-house behaviour, but because she's been so unpleasant, hurtful and judgmental, I can't feel much sympathy for her when people are in turn judgemental of her for much more valid reasons.

Also, when she makes bitchy, but ironic, comments like "Do you always help yourself to other people's stuff", and "I feel like they're disrupting a family", comments about how these lines could refer to her own former antics are bound to happen.

[smudgie]

No, I don't judge her on her being a prostitute.
However, perhaps the job she does or did has shaped her personality a little.
She has an awful personality, very hard faced, sooner she is out the better.

[Kizzy]

Everything she says and does....... yes, but you were once a prostitute.
The married men in these scenarios blameless then?

[Josy]

Well it all comes down to individual opinion really. Every year on here some people judge a housemate including their past in it and some don't, it's just always been the way of it.

I personally don't judge Helen in the house on her past, she's awful enough in there as it without even bringing that into it IMO however I do agree with Vicky that you can't help but laugh at the hypocrisy of some of the things she says when you remember what her past is.

It also sometimes mingles together when you think about it, Helen got so irate at possibly being referred to as a slag by Danielle and the whole big drama occurred and I would guess that's because Helen was thinking of her past, she more than likely thought Danielle knew who she was and made reference to it, the thing is because of what she's done the stigma will always be with her, that's her own doing and no one else is to blame for it and no one can really blame others if they choose to judge her for it.

[smudgie]

Everything she says and does....... yes, but you were once a prostitute.
The married men in these scenarios blameless then?

Perhaps a married man sleeping with a prostitute actually saves the marriage in some cases, better than them having an affair to get their jollies.

[Kizzy]

Oh well the goalposts shift again, now it's fine to refer to past actions, she will be criticised and judged for it, that could be seen as bullying too though for me.
Being called a slag by danielle the catholic was what hit the nerve I would say, maybe something in her past triggered that reaction to her sanctimonious moralising?

[Samwell]

Is it possible to make a good guess on how many penises she has had inside of her?

[Jack_]

Of course it's not relevant and the fact that people are constantly chucking words like 'slag' and 'slapper' around in 2014 as well as calling her a 'homewrecker' for the Wayne Rooney incident when he was the married man that paid someone to do a job for him which she obviously fulfilled cause um...that was her job - speaks volumes about the latent misogyny that exists in society. It's really quite repulsive.

[flamingGalah!]

It isn't relevant, but it is another part of her that I despise her for, not just for being a *****, but the fact she got paid to shag someone, then blew her "prozzie code" of anonymity & sold her story to a tabloid about shagging Wayne Rooney :nono: Added to the fact that she is an absolutely disgusting disgrace of a human being in the house I think it is fair game to bring up her past, when she herself was more than happy to expose herself as a ***** to make even more money... :nono:

[Josy]

Of course it's not relevant and the fact that people are constantly chucking words like 'slag' and 'slapper' around in 2014 as well as calling her a 'homewrecker' for the Wayne Rooney incident when he was the married man that paid someone to do a job for him which she obviously fulfilled cause um...that was her job - speaks volumes about the latent misogyny that exists in society. It's really quite repulsive.

And lots of people find selling your body repulsive too.

[joeysteele]

I am not keen on Helen and some of the things she has said have been uncalled for but i am not going to judge her on what she did in her past. I will judge her on how she is in the house & so far she isnt doing good.
I do find it odd how a few of the housemates have said she is nice & funny but we never see that, we just get shown her been bitchy. I guess that is good for BB though.

This is always the problem with BB editing now sadly, I am sure she has some really good and more entertaining lighter moments.

I agree too that her past is irrelevant while in the house, if it wasn't relevant to stop her becoming a housemate in the first place then for sure it has no relevance now,in my view.

[Northern Monkey]

I think in Helens case it could be relevant,It may have contributed in making her the bitter old twat she is now.

[Jordan.]

It's annoying how she acts holier than thou when we all know what common trash she is

[calyman]

No I haven't, don't do a toya on me :laugh: You assume you know helens motives because youve decided in your mind she's a 'skank' that's a given.
The OP questions if it's relevent to apply her past actions to her time in the house as I see it... and if you've taken it upon yourself to be judge, jury and executioner there's nothing else to say.
Which is no less valid than you seeking to separate her past lifestyle with how she is today. What gives you the right to make judgements different from mine then accuse me of being "judge jury and executioner" because I see things differently from you.

Me, I don't go for falseness. Clearly what one has done in the past, is very much relevant with how one is in the present. We do not live in a vacuum; we are the people we are because of what we have experienced, learned and done in our past. Some may benefit from gaining insights into their life, Helen is not one of those people. She is nasty and skanky.

[Verbal]

I really don't see what the big deal is about prostitutes and why people are so against it.

[Livia]

Being a prostitute is one thing. Selling your story to the tabloids and becoming some kind of celebrity off the back of it is quite another. Then she looks down her nose at other people. She has no problem judging...

[AnnieK]

To be fair to Helen...aparaently she only sold her story due to the other girl involved selling hers first and naming her....her story did come later...her name was out there in the public realm so she then sold hers...

That doesn't excuse her behaviour in anyway by the way....

[rionablue]

My opinion for what its worth is that Helen seems to think she is 'above' Jale that she is smarter and better than her in every way. You can sense that by the way Helen looks at her or speaks to her and her little band of followers surround her all the time. Because of the scandal in Helens past she is most CERTAINLY NOT above the other housemate and as they say 'Let him without sin throw the first stone) (Danielle would be so proud of me lol) Therefore when Helen is mistreating Jale many forum members bring up the Rooney thing as an example of Helens work

[Verbal]

My opinion for what its worth is that Helen seems to think she is 'above' Jale that she is smarter and better than her in every way. You can sense that by the way Helen looks at her or speaks to her and her little band of followers surround her all the time. Because of the scandal in Helens past she is most CERTAINLY NOT above the other housemate and as they say 'Let him without sin throw the first stone) (Danielle would be so proud of me lol) Therefore when Helen is mistreating Jale many forum members bring up the Rooney thing as an example of Helens work

It was Rooney that made the decision to go to Helen, he's to blame. She has done nothing.

[Josy]

It was Rooney that made the decision to go to Helen, he's to blame. She has done nothing.

Hmm that's not true though is it, it takes two. She obviously knew he was, knew he had a family.

[Verbal]

Hmm that's not true though is it, it takes two. She obviously knew he was, knew he had a family.

She was providing a service, a clients personal circumstances are not her problem

[Verbal]

He may well have lied to her as well, saying they were about to split up. If he's having marital issues he should go to a counsellor not a prostitute. Demonising her for it is just stupid.

[Jack_]

And lots of people find selling your body repulsive too.

If you're still in the 1940s yeah

What other people do with their bodies is no one else's business, so long as people are of age and consenting anyone is free to do what they like, as many times as they like and with anyone they like and even for money if they so wish. If some people wouldn't do it themselves that's fine, but criticising others when it's not your body is quite pathetic. Anyone that cares takes life too seriously and should sort their priorities out, I mean there's wars, famine and economic and social inequality around the world and people are concerned about whether some people are selling sex? It's such a non-issue unless you're directly involved in it yourself

Some people are even forced into prostitution either literally or because they need the money and have little other means of acquiring it so the idea that people could be repulsed by that is actually quite saddening

[Jack_]

Prostitutes aren't there to vet or enquire about each client's relationship or marital status, the onus is on the client themselves to not be unfaithful. Just because he's Wayne Rooney it makes no difference, he's still a customer just like everyone else. They're paid to do a job and that's that.

This is just like how people (usually women) who sleep with someone in a relationship get blamed more by the partner than their actual cheating spouse. It's ridiculous, if you're the one in a relationship it is your responsibility not to cheat. No one else's

[InOne]

Her life on the game will have made her pretty cold. But that's no excuse for her being nasty. Prostitute or not she would've been mostly the same person in the house.

[Josy]

If you're still in the 1940s yeah

What other people do with their bodies is no one else's business, so long as people are of age and consenting anyone is free to do what they like, as many times as they like and with anyone they like and even for money if they so wish. If some people wouldn't do it themselves that's fine, but criticising others when it's not your body is quite pathetic. Anyone that cares takes life too seriously and should sort their priorities out, I mean there's wars, famine and economic and social inequality around the world and people are concerned about whether some people are selling sex? It's such a non-issue unless you're directly involved in it yourself

Some people are even forced into prostitution either literally or because they need the money and have little other means of acquiring it so the idea that people could be repulsed by that is actually quite saddening

Well theres plenty of people that find prostitution disgusting and it's not the 1940's so yeah that's that point flawed isn't it.

And it's none of your business if other people choose to find it disgusting, humiliating and degrading.

Wont even bother replying to the rest of your post tbh because it's just insulting anyone that disagrees with your opinion.

[Northern Monkey]

I actually don't have any problem with prossies or what they do.I would'nt wanna be with one or an ex prossie in a relationship but i have no moral objection to it at all.There is a demand for it and they provide a service.However,I can't blame people for judging them either,They are seen as mucky because of all the penises they've had in their mouth and other holes.You would'nt wanna kiss one or go in one without a coat.It's understandable that people will judge them.

[Livia]

Prostitutes aren't there to vet or enquire about each client's relationship or marital status, the onus is on the client themselves to not be unfaithful. Just because he's Wayne Rooney it makes no difference, he's still a customer just like everyone else. They're paid to do a job and that's that.

This is just like how people (usually women) who sleep with someone in a relationship get blamed more by the partner than their actual cheating spouse. It's ridiculous, if you're the one in a relationship it is your responsibility not to cheat. No one else's

And how about revealing all to the tabloids for forty grand. Who's responsibility is that?

[Verbal]

I actually don't have any problem with prossies or what they do.I would'nt wanna be with one or an ex prossie in a relationship but i have no moral objection to it at all.There is a demand for it and they provide a service.However,I can't blame people for judging them either,They are seen as mucky because of all the penises they've had in their mouth and other holes.You would'nt wanna kiss one or go in one without a coat.It's understandable that people will judge them.

Take your average girl, 27 years old, likes a night out clubbing, been clubbing since she was 15. How many do you think she's had?

How does being paid for it make it different?

The one doing it for free is much more of a slapper imo.

[Northern Monkey]

Take your average girl, 27 years old, likes a night out clubbing, been clubbing since she was 15. How many do you think she's had?

How does being paid for it make it different?

The one doing it for free is much more of a slapper imo.

The one doing it for money probably goes with atleast 5 men a night,The average 27 year old clubber won't put up anywhere near those figures,She may not go around sleeping with a new guy every weekend anyway.Like i said,I'm not against prostitution at all,I just don't blame people for judging them,I can see why they do.

[Verbal]

The one doing it for money probably goes with atleast 5 men a night,The average 27 year old clubber won't put up anywhere near those figures,She may not go around sleeping with a new guy every weekend anyway.Like i said,I'm not against prostitution at all,I just don't blame people for judging them,I can see why they do.

The majority of people go out with the sole intention of 'pulling'. My hypothetical situation was based on someone that goes out every weekend to pull and get laid. There are plenty of them. But I take your point.

[Pink Pegasus]

That link from the independent.ie goes into quite a bit of detail about what she got up to with clients! :omg:

For anyone who may not be able to access link on their phones:

It's not the usual back story to prostitution that you hear. Normal enough family, father a university lecturer and her mum a teaching assistant. She says herself that she doesn't blame her parents for her life decisions, she admits she was always a very hard teenager to handle, and that she was never as bright as her two brothers academically.

Doesn't seem hugely against all religious people. Says that as a teenager she got taken into a foster home to live with a vicar and his wife. She feared they would make her say prayers all the time but ended up finding them "loving and supportive", she says she respected them and didn't want to disappoint them.

She also says she never wanted the Rooney thing to go public initially because of her little son - probably didn't want her profession made public. But her name went all over the papers anyways before she ever said anything.

What I find the scariest out of that whole story though is her relationship with ex Louis Larsson. The guy was caught buying firearms with her credit card and went to prison. How could you want anyone like that in your child's life?
Her boyfriend, whom she claims is the best thing that's ever happened to her, has been in prison for the past year. He was caught buying firearms with her credit card, unbeknown to her until the police knocked at their door one day at dawn and arrested them both. After much questioning, they released her. But she still loves him.

"I know he doesn't sound it because he's in prison, but he's fantastic," she tells me. "I'd never had a boyfriend before. I don't count my son's father as a boyfriend. I was single for six and a half years and then Louis came along."

He made contact with her through Facebook and then one of her friends gave him her number. He wanted to take her out on a date but she'd never been on a date before. Besides, she was working as an escort and so she felt that she couldn't do both. He brought her out for dinner in the Lake District.

"We ended up staying over and we stayed for another two nights," she says. "Then we came back and I've never looked back. When I first got with him, I was still escorting but after nine weeks I thought, 'I'm going to have to tell him the truth.' I broke down when I told him and I got really upset. I said, 'You won't want to see me after I've told you this. I'm an escort.' He gave me a hug and said, 'I don't care what you do. I like you for you and it's a job at the end of the day. I'm not narrow-minded. Who am I to walk into your life and expect you to turn things around?' He was really understanding."

On the insides of both her wrists, she has blue tattoos declaring her love for him. On one it says, 'No lies'. The other has, 'Just Love. Louis. 30/09/2009.'

"I only did the tattoo because he's insecure about me being out here," she says. "We both love each other to pieces, we're faithful to each other and, more than anything, we're best friends.

"When he got into trouble, I didn't want to ever speak to him again. But then he wrote to me and said he couldn't live without me, so that's why I've stuck by him."

She visits her boyfriend in prison every week. He asks her to dress up, but she won't. She tells him that it's a prison, and not a catwalk. She is looking forward to October, when he will be out on day release. "Here's the really ironic thing," she says. "I'm perceived to be the biggest slut going, but I've not had sex with anybody for a whole year."
- See more at: http://www.independent.ie/woman/celeb-news/helen-wood-confessions-of-a-working-girl-26750972.html#sthash.8HmFjWwY.dpuf

The guy is now a fugitive on the run!
http://www.list.co.uk/article/61692-helen-wood-faces-police-questioning-after-big-brother/
She must have been very desperate at one point for a guy to "love" her.

I find her back story mildly interesting and do think it may have played a role in her very hard attitude now.
However still find her an appalling, nasty cow to watch in BB.

[calyman]

Take your average girl, 27 years old, likes a night out clubbing, been clubbing since she was 15. How many do you think she's had?

How does being paid for it make it different?

The one doing it for free is much more of a slapper imo.
The average 27 year old girl will try to "pull" someone she's attracted to. However the prostitute will pull a "punter" not based on attraction but on getting paid for it.

Now, how do you think the prostitute feels about the men she's serviced? I'm hazarding a guess that she probably generally despises them, or at the best; may feel indifferent to them. I have nothing against prostitutes but the lifestyle must adversely affect the prostitute. When sellling her body, she's also selling her self regard and experiencing the seedy side of life.

As Helen has evidenced this has contributed to her mean spirited and bullying attitude. I also think she is probably jealous of Jale, for despite being very plain, Jale has positively developed her own self worth and character, qualities that Helen clearly does not have.