Just because Chris is one of the oldest + least attractive in there

[Me. I Am Salman]

and was slightly octracized because of it on night 1, does not mean you have to feel sorry for him at every given opportunity. it doesn't make him a saint, it doesn't mean all housemates must go out of their way to please him and it does not mean anyone who goes against him is a bully that deserves stoning.

let's say it was Pauline's name which was shouted from outside.. absolutely no way would jale be condemned the way she's being right now. in fact people would probably have condemned jale if she did conceal the information, accusing her of always pandering to Pauline

just why should Jale be expected to keep it to herself for Chris' benefit anyway? IT'S A GAMESHOW. the power housemate's at an advantage to everyone else in the house so of course they're all gonna want to get to the bottom of who it is, especially when the PH makes decisions at their expense. coupled with the unnatural levels of paranoia in there it only makes sense for Jale to do what she did. her actions were nothing personal. if the roles were switched and Chris was the one who blabbed, I'd bet a lot of money people on this site would defend him and be all He Was Just a Thinking Of The Others

getting really, really fed up of the extremely fickle and songs of praise mentality on here. what chance does the show have if even the supposed diehards have adopted the general public's way of thinking that has destroyed/come close to destroying so many series in the past?

[MeMyselfAndI]

Jale is disloyal and a liar soz

[Winkie Expand]

Um.

1) Pauline is the oldest, least attractive in there.

2) Not many feel sorry for her.

[rubymoo]

If you say you're not going to say anything then you shouldn't say anything, Jale only blabbed because the information she was given made her feel important.

If Jale had kept the information to herself she'd have come across to the public alot better.

Agreed it is a game show...however i think the housemates have forgotten this!

[Patricia4]

If Jale had kept the information to herself she'd have come across to the public alot better.

This above I agree with.

[HBB1508]

Um.

1) Pauline is the oldest, least attractive in there.

2) Not many feel sorry for her.

This sums it all up!

[Me. I Am Salman]

Jale is disloyal and a liar soz

but bitchiness/two-facedness is everything the show is about?? s2g I don't understand why people want to watch BB but hate on the one thing that embodies it. and anyway for reasons I brought up in the OP what jale did wasn't two-faced for the sake of being two-faced, it was understandable. chris isn't even a friend of hers, why should she be loyal him? where was he when jale was supposedly being bullied? chris hasn't done anything to gain her trust

[Me. I Am Salman]

If you say you're not going to say anything then you shouldn't say anything, Jale only blabbed because the information she was given made her feel important.

If Jale had kept the information to herself she'd have come across to the public alot better.

Agreed it is a game show...however i think the housemates have forgotten this!

If Jale had kept the information to herself she'd have come across to the public alot better.

This above I agree with.

lmfao what? the BB house isn't meant to be some kind of finishing school. it's a trashy show geared towards people who thrive off trashy behaviour

Um.

1) Pauline is the oldest, least attractive in there.

2) Not many feel sorry for her.

Um. Not sure what point you're trying to make. Pauline never 'stood out' from the rest like Chris did on the first night, he was never octracized. Perhaps you should next time read the rest of my post instead of the first two lines.

[rubymoo]

I thought it was a social experiment show, for us the audience to observe behaviour???

Maybe i should switch off then as i don't like trashy shows!

[Verbal]

I thought it was a social experiment show, for us the audience to observe behaviour???

Maybe i should switch off then as i don't like trashy shows!

It stopped being a social experiment after series 1 :joker:

[rubymoo]

It stopped being a social experiment after series 1 :joker:

True, that's when i stopped watching!!!:hehe:

Just restarted watching a few series ago.

I do find peoples behaviour fascinating:pipe:

[MTVN]

I see your point, though I don't think Chris being old and unattractive has anything to do with it really. It's true though that the whole concept of the power housemate is supposed to mess with them and even if Jale doesn't personally suffer from it it's still aimed at affecting all of them negatively by secretly elevating another housemate to a position of power over the others, by sowing seeds of doubt in all their minds and by trying to promote dissension among them, I don't see why she should be obligated to keep it a secret from the others when its something which doesn't really help any of them. It's unfortunate for BB and Chris that some randomer has spoiled it but that's just tough luck. Jale wasn't entrusted with a secret and it's not like Chris confided in her, she was just relaying something that could have been heard by any one of them after it got shouted into the garden

[rubymoo]

:puzzled:But she said she wasn't going to tell anyone!

[MTVN]

:puzzled:But she said she wasn't going to tell anyone!

People change their minds I guess, I think it was more stupid of her to promise that in the first place and start going on about how she wasn't a 'grass', it would only make her a grass if someone had entrusted her with that information as a secret but they didn't

[Me. I Am Salman]

the edit just made it seem like she promised to stay quiet one minute and went back on her word immediately after

a lot of time probably passed for her to think about it more/things that didn't make the edit might have happened and swayed her thinking

[Crimson Dynamo]

Chris has an attractive personality

Pauline has not

simples

[rubymoo]

I just see it as Chris is doing what big brother has asked him to do.

It was unfortunate that some idiot spoilt the 'secret'.

It's just a game, so housemates need to lighten up.

And i'd rather Chris on my side than Pauline and Jale.

[Me. I Am Salman]

I see your point, though I don't think Chris being old and unattractive has anything to do with it really. It's true though that the whole concept of the power housemate is supposed to mess with them and even if Jale doesn't personally suffer from it it's still aimed at affecting all of them negatively by secretly elevating another housemate to a position of power over the others, by sowing seeds of doubt in all their minds and by trying to promote dissension among them, I don't see why she should be obligated to keep it a secret from the others when its something which doesn't really help any of them. It's unfortunate for BB and Chris that some randomer has spoiled it but that's just tough luck. Jale wasn't entrusted with a secret and it's not like Chris confided in her, she was just relaying something that could have been heard by any one of them after it got shouted into the garden

exactly
but chris being the oddball is definitely garnering him more sympathy, imo

[Me. I Am Salman]

Chris has an attractive personality

Pauline has not

simples

so you admit a double standard?

[rubymoo]

I like oddballs, they bring colour to the world! (and i don't mean that pervy!)

[joeysteele]

Chris has an attractive personality

Pauline has not

simples

Well said, absolutely spot on.

[Me. I Am Salman]

this is about jale's behaviour though
you all are pretty much admitting what I said in the OP.. lolz

[jyunga]

BB told Chris not to let anyone find out.
Jale knows the shouting is the truth and hates that Chris is lying to her face about it.
He's kinda between a rock and a hard place but she's right about him lying to her face. It's a shame really cause they'll probably be good friends in there if it wasn't for him having power this week.

[Jake.]

:worship: agreed with pretty much all you've said

[calyman]

Chris has an attractive personality

Pauline has not

simples

My thoughts also.

[Me. I Am Salman]

oh dear.. :unsure:

[Gusto Brunt]

Um.

1) Pauline is the oldest, least attractive in there.

2) Not many feel sorry for her.

And Jale is a year older than Chris. And how does one judge attractive.

To me as a straight guy he has a lot to offer. He's mature, sensible, talented and intelligent.

None of the qualities you'd find in most of them if you look inside instead of outside.

[Ammi]

BB told Chris not to let anyone find out.
Jale knows the shouting is the truth and hates that Chris is lying to her face about it.
He's kinda between a rock and a hard place but she's right about him lying to her face. It's a shame really cause they'll probably be good friends in there if it wasn't for him having power this week.

..that's quite a good summing up, jyunga...

[smeagol]

what is this propogander , dont sin chris to win. the rest need to go in the bin yes you can grin ding a ling a ling

[Me. I Am Salman]

And Jale is a year older than Chris. And how does one judge attractive.

To me as a straight guy he has a lot to offer. He's mature, sensible, talented and intelligent.

None of the qualities you'd find in most of them if you look inside instead of outside.
what is this propogander , dont sin chris to win. the rest need to go in the bin yes you can grin *ding a ling a ling



no relevance to this thread at all.

[smeagol]

quiet your giggle box and joing the chris fan club. you know you want to

[Natalie.]

I think Jale shouldn't have said she would keep it to herself if she was just going to blab it out anyway.

[Gusto Brunt]

I think Jale shouldn't have said she would keep it to herself if she was just going to blab it out anyway.

Christopher kept to his word, though. ;)

[Bluerang1]

such truth tea

very wow

[Iggy]

I dont know about unattractive...

its true that we tend to rally behind the ones who are treated badly in the house, but I actually liked Chris the most in his VT before anyone was non accepting of him

would I rather have a session with ash? yes...but a relationship I would gladly go on a date with Chris and Im considered an attractive woman...Chris has alot of offer...

anyway....just sayin :)

[Jordan.]

stop moaning and let people have their opinions, that's what the show is supposed to create. FYI I went off Jale a bit because of what she did but I'm not exactly wanting her out because of it because obviously I can see she's good for the show. People CAN have a negative opinion on something that happens but still appreciate the entertainment rather than just blindly excusing anything they wouldn't agree with IRL

[Me. I Am Salman]

why tf would it make you go off her what she did was so minor

[Iggy]

It wasnt minor...the action itself was minor I guess, but she s a clever girl...she knows what area she is walking on, and that is stepping on others to make herself more popular in the house...its not what she did so much as what it symbolises

she was one of the outsiders and kinda made out that she accepted that place in society, but she has shown that really she wants to be in the ''in crowd'' and will step on others and go against her own ethics to get there

its not lying or being a grass......its igoring what she heard or being a grass...and she was a grass...boooooooo to being a grass

[Crimson Dynamo]

It wasnt minor...the action itself was minor I guess, but she s a clever girl...she knows what area she is walking on, and that is stepping on others to make herself more popular in the house...its not what she did so much as what it symbolises

she was one of the outsiders and kinda made out that she accepted that place in society, but she has shown that really she wants to be in the ''in crowd'' and will step on others and go against her own ethics to get there

its not lying or being a grass......its igoring what she heard or being a grass...and she was a grass...boooooooo to being a grass

http://destinysrehab.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/spilled-coffee12.jpg?w=300

[Jordan.]

why tf would it make you go off her what she did was so minor

+ She's being annoying taking it so seriously and trying to expose the power housemate, it ruins the whole theme if it can't be kept a secret.

[Me. I Am Salman]

I dont know about unattractive...

its true that we tend to rally behind the ones who are treated badly in the house, but I actually liked Chris the most in his VT before anyone was non accepting of him

would I rather have a session with ash? yes...but a relationship I would gladly go on a date with Chris and Im considered an attractive woman...Chris has alot of offer...

anyway....just sayin :)

nothing wrong with this.. I've rooted for such HMs in the past
my point was this was only on night one, no way is he being octracized anymore. yet people seemed to have adopted some kind of motherly mentality towards him and berate anyone that even dares go against him

[reece(:]

Agreed with everything Salman has said, if any HM dares to go against St Chris, then they're immediately on the public hate list.

[Iggy]

no way is he being octracized anymore. yet people seemed to have adopted some kind of motherly mentality towards him and berate anyone that even dares go against him

awe but hes sooo cute lol...I admit, I do want to make him some tea and tuck him in.. :)

dont get the spilled coffee reply to me, is that good or bad?? lol

[Saph]

who dat who dat

.

[Daffodil]

Chris' personality shines through. To me, he is a lot more attractive than 'empty head' Ash.

[Me. I Am Salman]

It wasnt minor...the action itself was minor I guess, but she s a clever girl...she knows what area she is walking on, and that is stepping on others to make herself more popular in the house...its not what she did so much as what it symbolises

she was one of the outsiders and kinda made out that she accepted that place in society, but she has shown that really she wants to be in the ''in crowd'' and will step on others and go against her own ethics to get there

its not lying or being a grass......its igoring what she heard or being a grass...and she was a grass...boooooooo to being a grass

I don't see it like that at all. Come on, let's be rational. You really think Jale is that desperate and pathetic she's willing to throw someone under the bus to get on the good books of the people who've been nasty to her? There have been no other instances of her attempting to be friends with Helen/Pauline/etc from what I've seen. She strikes me as someone who really doesn't give a **** about who's popular and who's not.

[Me. I Am Salman]

awe but hes sooo cute lol...I admit, I do want to make him some tea and tuck him in.. :)

dont get the spilled coffee reply to me, is that good or bad?? lol

that's fine, you're totally entitled to want to do that, I'm not disputing anything
and i don't know, that person's a bit odd

[Iggy]

I don't see it like that at all. Come on, let's be rational. You really think Jale is that desperate and pathetic she's willing to throw someone under the bus to get on the good books of the people who've been nasty to her? There have been no other instances of her attempting to be friends with Helen/Pauline/etc from what I've seen. She strikes me as someone who really doesn't give a **** about who's popular and who's not.


Thats how it seemed, but lets see how it goes over the next week or so...I think she hasnt had an ammunition to get in with that crowd until now, but I hear you, we shall have to see how it plays out...and lets face it, this is exactly what we want to see on BB....so its a thumbs up from me in that regard :dance:

[Iggy]

THIS IS GREEEEAAAAATTT no one I know is watching BB...Im so HAPPY to talk about it to real live people, agree or disagree.....HOORAY!!!!! Im having fun!!!

[Me. I Am Salman]

+ She's being annoying taking it so seriously and trying to expose the power housemate, it ruins the whole theme if it can't be kept a secret.

a TWIST.. causing ARGUMENTS & PARANOIA ?!?!??!! yes, we don't want this at all & it's definitely not what the producers were aiming for

[Me. I Am Salman]

THIS IS GREEEEAAAAATTT no one I know is watching BB...Im so HAPPY to talk about it to real live people, agree or disagree.....HOORAY!!!!! Im having fun!!!

I'm sure you'll enjoy this place. it's gonna be this heated for the next 9 weeks :laugh:

[Bluerang1]

it's gonna be this heated for the next 9 weeks :laugh:

Well 5. The good ones will begone by then and Helen couldn't possible argue without her friends to reconcile in.

[Me. I Am Salman]

:'(

[Livia]

Why do people think others base their opinions of people on their looks? I'd say the shoe was on the other foot. Just because you don't like someone, and you can't get your head around why other people do... that doesn't make YOU right and everyone else wrong.

[Jordan.]

Why do people think others base their opinions of people on their looks? I'd say the shoe was on the other foot. Just because you don't like someone, and you can't get your head around why other people do... that doesn't make YOU right and everyone else wrong.

http://destinysrehab.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/spilled-coffee12.jpg?w=300

[Livia]

LOL...

[Iggy]

heres the spilled coffee again...Jordan..what does this mean?

[Livia]

heres the spilled coffee again...Jordan..what does this mean?

Spilling the truth tea... it's a... thing on here.

[Iggy]

ahh so its a good thing? means spilling the truth? thanks, Ill remember that one :)

[hijaxers]

:puzzled:But she said she wasn't going to tell anyone!

People lie - thats nothing new

[Marsh.]

Chris is older than Pauline? D:

[Me. I Am Salman]

Why do people think others base their opinions of people on their looks?I'd say the shoe was on the other foot. Just because you don't like someone, and you can't get your head around why other people do... that doesn't make YOU right and everyone else wrong.

didn't say that

and was octracized because of it

^

http://destinysrehab.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/spilled-coffee12.jpg?w=300

no truth tea

[susie q]

I like both Chris & Jale. I think they will both get past this arguement, they both come across as mature

[Miranda123]

and was slightly octracized because of it on night 1, does not mean you have to feel sorry for him at every given opportunity. it doesn't make him a saint, it doesn't mean all housemates must go out of their way to please him and it does not mean anyone who goes against him is a bully that deserves stoning.

let's say it was Pauline's name which was shouted from outside.. absolutely no way would jale be condemned the way she's being right now. in fact people would probably have condemned jale if she did conceal the information, accusing her of always pandering to Pauline

just why should Jale be expected to keep it to herself for Chris' benefit anyway? IT'S A GAMESHOW. the power housemate's at an advantage to everyone else in the house so of course they're all gonna want to get to the bottom of who it is, especially when the PH makes decisions at their expense. coupled with the unnatural levels of paranoia in there it only makes sense for Jale to do what she did. her actions were nothing personal. if the roles were switched and Chris was the one who blabbed, I'd bet a lot of money people on this site would defend him and be all He Was Just a Thinking Of The Others

getting really, really fed up of the extremely fickle and songs of praise mentality on here. what chance does the show have if even the supposed diehards have adopted the general public's way of thinking that has destroyed/come close to destroying so many series in the past?

Chris is the favourite for now, get over it
Pauline is out on Friday (good riddance) get over it

[Miranda123]

Chris is older than Pauline? D:

No he's not, and he's certainly not uglier lol

[Benjamin]

Chris is the favourite for now, get over it
Pauline is out on Friday (good riddance) get over it

I think you need to get over other people having opinions that you don't agree with.

[Marsh.]

I love TiBB. :laugh:

[Samm]

Chris is the favourite for now, get over it
Pauline is out on Friday (good riddance) get over it

Do you mean Chris the slug

[lily.]

I thought it was a social experiment show, for us the audience to observe behaviour???

Maybe i should switch off then as i don't like trashy shows!

http://oi55.tinypic.com/30vhco8.jpg

[Josy]

but bitchiness/two-facedness is everything the show is about?? s2g I don't understand why people want to watch BB but hate on the one thing that embodies it. and anyway for reasons I brought up in the OP what jale did wasn't two-faced for the sake of being two-faced, it was understandable. chris isn't even a friend of hers, why should she be loyal him? where was he when jale was supposedly being bullied? chris hasn't done anything to gain her trust

Where do you come up with this gumph? just because a select few online think constant bitchyness and nastiness is entertaining does not make it true, and the fact that the public enjoying kicking these peoples arses out the door as soon as they possibly can proves this to be a lot of garbage.

As for Chris well maybe you know, some people just like him?

[lily.]

I don't find bitchyness and two-facedness entertaining. I find watching a bunch of strangers trying to find a way to co-exist when they have nothing in common entertaining.

[reece(:]

I want to know why Chris can bitch about everyone and be praised across social media sites but if anyone else bitches then they're the spawn of satan :think:

[mrflibble]

I don't find bitchyness and two-facedness entertaining. I find watching a bunch of strangers trying to find a way to co-exist when they have nothing in common entertaining.
I agree. I love watching people's behaviour and the dynamics of the house, but the desperate people who have to be loud and bitchy to get some attention are not in the least entertaining. Those who shout the loudest usually have less to say, and BB proves that to be true time and time again. A ridiculous number of these housemates are insanely weak-willed, ready to jump onto the safest ship and do whatever they can to fit in. Sheep are not interesting.

The difference between Chris bitching and them bitching, is that they're usually doing it to cause trouble and to make things difficult for the person in question and Chris bitches to BB privately. He finds a way to co-exist without 1) gossiping with 'the cool kids' to get into their group and 2) putting people down for the sake of being 'honest'. He displays much more character and tact by trying to get along with these people - without giving into their supposed charm - rather than creating trouble because they need attention. He's also articulate and honest, whereas the others act like spoilt children.

[Marsh.]

I want to know why Chris can bitch about everyone and be praised across social media sites but if anyone else bitches then they're the spawn of satan :think:

Maybe because he did it in a way whereby he was giving his honest opinion rather than divulging childish insults and engaging in pathetic screaming matches and schoolyard "Let's go outside away from slug" behaviour?

Having a negative opinion and sharing it to be honest is fine. Attacking people and being completely overbearing won't go down well.

Maybe if Pauline, Helen and Toya's "honesty" was simple, rational and normal it would be accepted more. But they just want to fight and argue for control.

[Mystic Mock]

I think that people throw the word “bullying” around far too easily on BB especially in this series.

The only thing that I don't get is why Jale betrayed one of her allies? It's not like she can avoid going up for eviction so it's just plain weird to me.

[Mystic Mock]

I don't find bitchyness and two-facedness entertaining. I find watching a bunch of strangers trying to find a way to co-exist when they have nothing in common entertaining.

A whole BB without any bitching or two-faced behaviour would be a bad series imo as that's what is an element of society that should be represented imo.

[lily.]

Obviously there has to be some conflict and bitchyness/backstabbing, but it doesn't have to be the central theme of the show.

[jet]

I agree. I love watching people's behaviour and the dynamics of the house, but the desperate people who have to be loud and bitchy to get some attention are not in the least entertaining. Those who shout the loudest usually have less to say, and BB proves that to be true time and time again. A ridiculous number of these housemates are insanely weak-willed, ready to jump onto the safest ship and do whatever they can to fit in. Sheep are not interesting.

The difference between Chris bitching and them bitching, is that they're usually doing it to cause trouble and to make things difficult for the person in question and Chris bitches to BB privately. He finds a way to co-exist without 1) gossiping with 'the cool kids' to get into their group and 2) putting people down for the sake of being 'honest'. He displays much more character and tact by trying to get along with these people - without giving into their supposed charm - rather than creating trouble because they need attention. He's also articulate and honest, whereas the others act like spoilt children.

*applauds*

In other words, Chris is winner material.