Do housemates still need 'aftercare' from Endemol?

[Cal.]

Endemol used to always claim that housemates got top of the range 'aftercare' after they came out of the show (which we all know is not true if you read Lesley Sanderson, Emma Greenwood, Chanelle Hayes or Nikki Grahame's accounts of what happened after they came out of the house), but do you think they actually need it anymore?

Housemates seem to be able to cope with the pressure a lot more now, and it's sort of like the press is no longer interested and it kind of feels like they can adjust quite easily to real life again (Lesley Sanderson from BB6 said a year after she went in she still hadn't recovered and re-adjusted to real life despite being in there for just 2 weeks).

Thoughts?

[lovebigbrotheruk]

I think it's a dangerous show. This is why I will never partake in going OTT with my comments on housemates.

I could see how it could be very hard to adjust back into normal life, so I am guessing they will still receive aftercare, albeit the little they provide.

[Marsh.]

I think so.

They all at least meet with the psychologist when they come out but then depending on how they are won't need to see them again or will have more care.

However, Aaron's bitching after BB12 suggested they were all left.

[Samm]

Don't think they did it with BB12, some of the housemates tried to commit sucide

[lovebigbrotheruk]

Don't think they did it with BB12, some of the housemates tried to commit sucide

Really? :shocked: That's awful.

Surely BB can be sued for this sort of stuff?

[Vicky.]

I don't think the aftercare was ever much good...in bb10 there were about 6 or 7 IIRC that tried harming themselves after the show?

[Cal.]

I think so.

They all at least meet with the psychologist when they come out but then depending on how they are won't need to see them again or will have more care.

However, Aaron's bitching after BB12 suggested they were all left.

Apparently (in Lesley's case) the psychologist was what messed her up. She apparently met with the psychologist immediately after her interview with Davina and she says they sat in silence and he just showed her newspapers with horrible headlines, then he told her to lie low for a few weeks and he'd access her (and her fellow housemates) in 6 months.

[GypsyGoth]

It is a shame, it's like they get the most out of the housemates and then discard them.

[Cal.]

Really? :shocked: That's awful.

Surely BB can be sued for this sort of stuff?

Loads of housemates have attempted suicide because of BB, even way back in Channel 4 days. Chanelle Hayes, Lesley Sanderson, Sree Dasari, Shabaz, Rodrigo.

[Marsh.]

Apparently (in Lesley's case) the psychologist was what messed her up. She apparently meet with the psychologist immediately after her interview with Davina and she says they sat in silence and he just showed her newspapers with horrible headlines, then he told her to lie low for a few weeks and he'd access her (and her fellow housemates) in 6 months.

That's awful. It's not as though she could lie low considering she was evicted early on and the series kept her profile up for another 3 months at least.

[Marsh.]

What did Chanelle Hayes do?

It is a shame because one of the most important parts of their care is assessing them BEFORE they go in to ensure they are strong enough to handle it. That obviously dropped by the wayside after the BB5 extremes.

[Cal.]

What did Chanelle Hayes do?

She attempted suicide after Big Brother. I'm not sure if she was stopped or she had suicidal thoughts, I can't remember. Lesley from BB6 had the pills crushed up ready to overdose, it's just by chance her mother came home and stopped her.

[Jamesy]

I thought they spoke to a psychologist in the house now anyway, in the diary room? Just to keep them sane and in high spirits for the whole show.

I think Big Brother is only really a show you should enter if you're strong enough anyway. If I went in and felt like I was losing it at any point I'd walk.

[Cal.]

What did Chanelle Hayes do?

It is a shame because one of the most important parts of their care is assessing them BEFORE they go in to ensure they are strong enough to handle it. That obviously dropped by the wayside after the BB5 extremes.

Yes, I agree.

I also think that it's the show's duty to look after the housemates at least for the year following their series until the next series. The BB6 housemates (coming from Lesley) presumably only got the meeting with psychologist when they were evicted and then another 6 months later.

I mean, in some cases, the depression and suicide attempts didn't come until years after their stints in the house so there's not a whole lot of things the show bosses can do, but I think that they should care for them in the best way they can in the 12 months after their time in the show to ensure things like that don't arise a few years down the line.

[Marsh.]

What was the reason for Lesley's attempt? Was she getting stick from the public?

[Dash Darington]

They used to cast a bunch of kooks and then cause them to have meltdowns for people's entertainment. Now they have a bunch of media *****s who are starved for the attention. The only worry for them is when nobody cares anymore.

[jyunga]

http://www.bbspy.co.uk/cbb11/news/0118/aaron-allard-morgan-faye-palmer-hit-out-at-lack-of-big-brother-aftercare

[Me. I Am Salman]

Don't think they did it with BB12, some of the housemates tried to commit sucide

Yeah Aaron casually blurted that out on live tv. What a gross human being

[Jords]

They must get something? Itd be too unethical not to.

[JayBlaze]

How did Shahbaz ever make it past the psychological tests

[Me. I Am Salman]

They used to cast a bunch of kooks and then cause them to have meltdowns for people's entertainment. Now they have a bunch of media *****s who are starved for the attention. The only worry for them is when nobody cares anymore.

true but with bb7 for which was chock full of vulnerables (bdd. octracized mentally ill gay muslim, Tourette's, anorexia, gender identity confusion, etc) the show apparently was a huge help for the majority of them. Pete said the show was his 'therapy', Sam brodie went from having an extremely troubled life to finding fame and true happiness. and this was partly down to the show even if he did have a **** time.. etc. only person who suffered even more from the programme was sadly shahbaz.

[Rob!]

true but with bb7 for which was chock full of vulnerables (bdd. octracized mentally ill gay muslim, Tourette's, anorexia, gender identity confusion, etc) the show apparently was a huge help for the majority of them. Pete said the show was his 'therapy', Sam brodie went from having an extremely troubled life to finding fame and true happiness. and this was partly down to the show even if he did have a **** time.. etc. only person who suffered even more from the programme was sadly shahbaz.

I'm pretty sure Grace wouldn't have called her experience positive after being glassed in the face.

[jyunga]

Pete made money and got famous off it. Of course it was good for him.

[Cal.]

What was the reason for Lesley's attempt? Was she getting stick from the public?

Yeah, a year after she was still being called a bully and she had to wear really baggy clothes and hats when out to avoid being recognized.

[Marsh.]

I'm pretty sure Grace wouldn't have called her experience positive after being glassed in the face.

I don't think she'd completely dismiss it either after she went on to continue starring on other reality shows and appeared on BB spin offs a good few times.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I don't think the aftercare was ever much good...in bb10 there were about 6 or 7 IIRC that tried harming themselves after the show?

Not to sound like an absolute heartless arsehole but to the housemates getting picked to be a housemate in 2009 still meant becoming a household name

The housemates didn't know the show had its lowest ratings ever and was cancelled.

Maybe when they left and didn't get the attention they craved after months of auditions and being treated like they were superstars by being put in hiding ect they felt hard done by to not come out of the house to the instant fame and front page headlines they had imagined whilst in the house.

Maybe a small percentage was a cry for help butthe rest of the attempted suicides were plain and simple attention seeking in my eyes. Sree being the perfect example when he apparently cut his wrists in his student dorm.

Hardly the luxury he was expecting.

[Marsh.]

Yeah, a year after she was still being called a bully and she had to wear really baggy clothes and hats when out to avoid being recognized.

Wasn't she almost raped at some point? I wouldn't be surprised if that was what sent her over the edge.

[Pete.]

Endemol used to always claim that housemates got top of the range 'aftercare' after they came out of the show (which we all know is not true if you read Lesley Sanderson, Emma Greenwood, Chanelle Hayes or Nikki Grahame's accounts of what happened after they came out of the house), but do you think they actually need it anymore?

Housemates seem to be able to cope with the pressure a lot more now, and it's sort of like the press is no longer interested and it kind of feels like they can adjust quite easily to real life again (Lesley Sanderson from BB6 said a year after she went in she still hadn't recovered and re-adjusted to real life despite being in there for just 3 weeks).

Thoughts?
do you have any receipts (news reports) for Emma or Nikki?

[Me. I Am Salman]

I'm pretty sure Grace wouldn't have called her experience positive after being glassed in the face.

LMAO she wasn't unstable to begin with though?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

do you have any receipts (news reports) for Emma or Nikki?

I know Emma is featured in Narinder Kaurs book "Big Brother the inside story" where she describes how BB treated her as extremely poor.

They left her locked in the bedsit for days telling her she would be going back into the house with the lights on and just a cd Walkman. She goes on to say how bad the aftercare was aswell, like she was discarded.

I would get a direct quote but I cant be arsed to go through it.

[Pete.]

So interesting ^

[Cal.]

I know Emma is featured in Narinder Kaurs book "Big Brother the inside story" where she describes how BB treated her as extremely poor.

They left her locked in the bedsit for days telling her she would be going back into the house with the lights on and just a cd Walkman. She goes on to say how bad the aftercare was aswell, like she was discarded.

I would get a direct quote but I cant be arsed to go through it.

Yes, she was treated horrible in her last 3 days and claimed she was treated as a lesser to the rest of the housemate by bosses in aftercare. Plus she clung onto fame until about 2007 and then her mum went to the press and said that Emma was struggling with normal life and still struggling to adjust back to reality after being a 'celebrity' for 3 years and then completely being dropped. It must have been difficult.

I think she was allowed to watch DVDs as well when she was locked in the bedsit. Looking back on the highlights its obvious they had no intention of putting her back in, she received about 2 minutes of screen time from the time she was placed in there for the second time to when she was ejected.

[Cal.]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-386724/Big-Brother-ruined-life.html - here's Lesley's article, it's really in depth and Marsh she does mention the incident at the hotel in Leeds but doesn't say anything about a rape in this article, she just says that the man seemed to not be interested in her being from Big Brother but then treated her like dirt in the morning. She claimed she was raped on this night a few years later I think.