The Hms erupt in their biggest arguement vid

[erinp5]

u2m1cS0miqk

[Josy]

Marlon shouted to the DR? ffs :laugh:

[Pete.]

"All you do is stare in the mirror. I'm bored of it"

Queen - I love ha

[Headie]

So now Toya is the outsider... smh.

[rionablue]

Could someone please kindly paraphrase what is happening in the video clip as I cant access it. Thanks so much

[Marsh.]

Toya started the video with somewhat of a point about the nominations then yet again wouldn't let Winston utter a word before shouting him down and bringing "respect" up again.

:facepalm:

[Headie]

And this time next week we'll be sat watching Winston talk about one of his sex experiences :bored:

Can't understand why people want Toya out, it's literally turning into the Deana situation where the whole house hate her, but can't get rid of her. Except in this case, they can, ffs :bored:

[wendywillow]

And this time next week we'll be sat watching Winston talk about one of his sex experiences :bored:

Can't understand why people want Toya out, it's literally turning into the Deana situation where the whole house hate her, but can't get rid of her. Except in this case, they can, ffs :bored:

I want her to stay, shes unlikeable but very entertaining right now

[Headie]

Toya started the video with somewhat of a point about the nominations then yet again wouldn't let Winston utter a word before shouting him down and bringing "respect" up again.

:facepalm:

Winston interrupted her? So how does that work? :shrug: Are you supposed to stop talking when someone interrupts you or am I missing something :conf:

[Pete.]

Winston is just an awkward mess talking slow to Toya like she doesn't get it

[Marsh.]

Yes because, unlike Deana, Toya is an equal in the spats.

Deana was being targeted. This stuff with Toya isn't anyone being victimised or targeted, they all play their parts in the arguments.

[Pete.]

I'm loving Toya so much tonight it's crazy

[lovebigbrotheruk]

They are a group of children. Why the hell is Toya taking all the flack?

Disgusting the way Toya is being treated.

[wendywillow]

I'm loving Toya so much tonight it's crazy

i'd kill for a live feed

[rionablue]

Toya started the video with somewhat of a point about the nominations then yet again wouldn't let Winston utter a word before shouting him down and bringing "respect" up again.

:facepalm:

Thanks Marsh :wavey:

[Jamie585]

The 3 lads suddenly have a voice?

[Marsh.]

Winston interrupted her? So how does that work? :shrug: Are you supposed to stop talking when someone interrupts you or am I missing something :conf:

No he didn't.

She shouted after Marlon who ran to the diary room, she then made a statement directed at everyone and sat back, 2 second pause, Winston opens his gob and she tries to shut him up.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

And this time next week we'll be sat watching Winston talk about one of his sex experiences :bored:

Can't understand why people want Toya out, it's literally turning into the Deana situation where the whole house hate her, but can't get rid of her. Except in this case, they can, ffs :bored:

:clap1:

[MeMyselfAndI]

Matthew comes across well, Winston has dissapointed me

[erinp5]

Toya 'Everyone is failing to understand' it's always everyone else that's at fault.
Matt is correct Chris and Danielle haven't kicked of ,it's Helen's crew that become outraged if any of them are put up/nominated .
Chris was spot on last week when he said that when Christopher was nominated there was no support, but when Steven/Ash were the others were spitting feathers at the audacity that one of them could be up.

[armand.kay]

Mathew calling marlon Marvin :laugh:
It's been two weeks shows are irrelevant he is.

[Jamie585]

I think Marlon is playing a game big time!

[Pete.]

Winston opens his gob and she tries to shut him up.

:clap1: only toya

[Pete.]

Mathew calling marlon Marvin :laugh:
It's been two weeks shows are irrelevant he is.
He slept through his nomination reveal

[Josy]

Could someone please kindly paraphrase what is happening in the video clip as I cant access it. Thanks so much

This isn't every word but it's the basics...

Helen starts off by saying to Winston that Toya was about to give reasons and he should have let her finish what she was saying.

Winston, Ash and Marlon butt in and say no she wasnt she started going on about respect etc.

Then Toya shouts down from the Pod that Marlon needs to shut the **** up all he does is look in mirrors and he replies saying all she does is chat **** he says she's just shown her true colours and she's a prick? I think. then he gets shouted to the DR

Winston then starts saying she took thier 3 nominations away and something about them being mates? Toya says she's not listening because he's shown his true colours too.

They argue for a few seconds then Ash gets involved saying Toya why don't you just come down and talk to us she says no she tried to do that before then Winston butts back in.

They all argue for a bit more mostly Toya vs Winston.

Then at the end Matthew says quietly to Toya he is shocked at how Marlon spoke to her, it's disgraceful

Toya said she's glad everyone seen everyones true colours.

Ends with Matthew saying some of them are acting like complete children because they are up for nomination.

Anyone see any mistakes in what I typed then feel free to correct them

[Achilles]

2 great clips in a row. Hopefully there is a Helen vs Toya argument coming up soon. Love that the house has been well and truly shook up and no longer a case of cosy cool gang vs the misfits. Maybe the cosy cool gang will have a full on civil war?

[Josy]

Helen and Matthew came across the most level headed in that whole thing there

[Brother Leon]

"True Colours" :joker:

She really can;t take someone not rolling over for her. Some Sassy queen :joker: Winston ripped her to shreds. I almost felt for her:joker:

[Jemal]

Its a lose lose for winston..
Cause if he didnt stand up for himself people will say "he has no balls and sits on the fence"
But now he did stand up for himself he still gets stick :joker:


Well done Winston for clocking that toya woman.

[Marsh.]

:clap1: only toya

But would he get slagged off if he didn't even attempt to have an input at all? :hehe:

[Jamie585]

I was actually very surprised how tame Helen was!!

[Josy]

2 great clips in a row. Hopefully there is a Helen vs Toya argument coming up soon. Love that the house has been well and truly shook up and no longer a case of cosy cool gang vs the misfits. Maybe the cosy cool gang will have a full on civil war?

Helen seems to be keeping out of it.

[erinp5]

Helen and Matthew came across the most level headed in that whole thing there

Helen nominated Toya for PH ...bet she's kicking herself now !!
Again we see the Hms sitting trying to make sense of the nominations and again Toya tells Marlon to shut the ****up.:cheer2:

[Pete.]

I was actually very surprised how tame Helen was!!
Helen still likes Toya

[Marsh.]

Its a lose lose for winston..
Cause if he didnt stand up for himself people will say "he has no balls and sits on the fence"
But now he did stand up for himself he still gets stick :joker:

Spot on.

I was actually very surprised how tame Helen was!!

I think she only goes in for the kill when it involves her personally. As a finalist, she couldn't give two turds about nomination disputes. :laugh:

[Pete.]

But would he get slagged off if he didn't even attempt to have an input at all? :hehe:
But he would have more respect if he didn't pick fights with a clearly vulnerable girl

[GypsyGoth]

Helen seems to be keeping out of it.

Smart move :laugh:

[Kizzy]

Winston came across well, he spoke up for himself well... He prefers to have a laugh in there which is great but it's nice to see him have an opinion.

[Jords]

Matthew :worship: I like what he said about Chris and Danielle.

Not too sure what the whole argument is about, but also good to see Winston stand up for himself. So tired of Toya stating her self-worth.

[Jemal]

But he would have more respect if he didn't pick fights with a clearly vulnerable girl

Yea selling your boyfriends clothes on ebay then making him buy it back..
Ye.. Vulnerable by back foot.

[Jords]

Smart move :laugh:

For once... :tongue:

[Josy]

Matthew :worship: I like what he said about Chris and Danielle.

Not too sure what the whole argument is about, but also good to see Winston stand up for himself. So tired of Toya stating her self-worth.

Theres another vid with the argument that happened before hand Jords just incase you haven't seen it...

[minty3]

Yes marlon getting a voice

[Pete.]

Yea selling your boyfriends clothes on ebay then making him buy it back..
Ye.. Vulnerable by back foot.
Vulnerable in the situation... She's just had to make a decision she's not 100% with as well as having an argument with Ash and Marlon then Winston has to go and put salt in the wound

[Marsh.]

But he would have more respect if he didn't pick fights with a clearly vulnerable girl

Has he "picked a fight"? We don't even know that yet. Of the two videos he said about two sentences in the most normal tone of everyone.

Yet in both videos a screaming/shouting woman tells him to shut up and disrespects him.

Vulnerable Toya? Bullsh*t.

[Miranda123]

Helen and Matthew came across the most level headed in that whole thing there

Helen seems scared to have it with Toya, but if she wants to keep Ash & Winston on side, she may have too

So good to see Winston and Marlon tell it like it is, Toya does talk bullsh.t

the way she said they are showing theyre true colours lol, lets see how she reacts to being put up, I really hope its this week!!!

[erinp5]

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_hero/public/eruptss.jpg?itok=6hV4daI4

[Jamie585]

Maybe this will be the end of the whole 'bullying' phase and the 'cool kids' group will go into meltdown :D

[erinp5]

Matthew :worship: I like what he said about Chris and Danielle.

Not too sure what the whole argument is about, but also good to see Winston stand up for himself. So tired of Toya stating her self-worth.

t01SfU0R5do

[Jamie585]

Why did Marlon call Toya fake? What was his reason?

[rionablue]

This isn't every word but it's the basics...

Helen starts off by saying to Winston that Toya was about to give reasons and he should have let her finish what she was saying.

Winston, Ash and Marlon butt in and say no she wasnt she started going on about respect etc.

Then Toya shouts down from the Pod that Marlon needs to shut the **** up all he does is look in mirrors and he replies saying all she does is chat **** he says she's just shown her true colours and she's a prick? I think. then he gets shouted to the DR

Winston then starts saying she took thier 3 nominations away and something about them being mates? Toya says she's not listening because he's shown his true colours too.

They argue for a few seconds then Ash gets involved saying Toya why don't you just come down and talk to us she says no she tried to do that before then Winston butts back in.

They all argue for a bit more mostly Toya vs Winston.

Then at the end Matthew says quietly to Toya he is shocked at how Marlon spoke to her, it's disgraceful

Toya said she's glad everyone seen everyones true colours.

Ends with Matthew saying some of them are acting like complete children because they are up for nomination.

Anyone see any mistakes in what I typed then feel free to correct them

Thanks so much Josy you have come to my rescue againl We may not agree on our favourite housemates but I am indebted to you :blush:

[Jordan.]

Can't cope with all the truth Toya is spilling

[Pete.]

Can't cope with all the truth Toya is spilling
:worship: only a queen

[Miranda123]

Maybe this will be the end of the whole 'bullying' phase and the 'cool kids' group will go into meltdown :D

It was only a matter of time before the others got peed off with Toya's despot complex

Like Kim Jong IL, you cant disagree with her, she just wont have it, wont listen to it, it makes you wonder how she ever comes by her opinions, as she never listens to anything anyone else ever says

[Kizzy]

She's an ignorant hysterical banshee... calm the eff down yourself love :joker:

[Miranda123]

:worship: only a queen

"Drama Queen"

anyone else starting to love Winston? lol

[Miranda123]

She's an ignorant hysterical banshee... calm the eff down yourself love :joker:

Well said!

[Samm]

Toya >

All Marlon has done is ****ing sleep

[lovebigbrotheruk]

:worship: only a queen

:clap2:

[jet]

"Drama Queen"

anyone else starting to love Winston? lol

I laughed my ass off at his Sylvester Stallone comment. He's growing on me.

[Marsh.]

Toya >

All Marlon has done is ****ing sleep

Or that's all we've seen because the PMSing women are hogging the screen time and action by being such hysterical bitches. :smug:

[Marsh.]

Can't cope with all the truth Toya is spilling

The only thing she is spilling is saliva. :smug:

[billy123]

Toya is a complete dumbass she just signed her own eviction notice tonight be it next friday or the one after.
Where do the dig these people up that are so dim they arent capable of pausing for a second to think of what they are doing and how it will be perceived both inside and outside the house :crazy:

Then just when you thought she couldn't embarrass herself or look more stupid in one night she got outsmarted and owned in an argument by Winston :laugh2: :laugh2:

[Samm]

Winston is retarded, He sounds like he has an education of an 8 year old

[Kizzy]

Or that's all we've seen because the PMSing women are hogging the screen time and action by being such hysterical bitches. :smug:

OR..... All the woman are taking charge as all the men are weak crying pussies?

[erinp5]

Big Brother stepped in to put a halt to a huge row in the Big Brother 2014 house today.



The argument occurred in the early hours following the nominations reveal, which saw a twist.

Yesterday (Saturday) afternoon, the housemates nominated as usual and Ash Harrison, Danielle McMahon, Chris R Wright, Marlon McKenzie, Steven Goode, Kimberly Kisselovich and Winston Showan were all up for eviction.

HOWEVER, unbeknownst to the group, power couple Toya A Washington and Matthew Davies had chosen to veto the nominations of Ash, Steven and Marlon. Once their nominations were discarded, Kimberly escaped eviction.

Therefore, as it stands, Danielle, Ash, Chris, Marlon, Steven and Winston all face the public vote, alongside both Jale and Christopher.

Toya and Matthew’s perhaps strange choices of whose nominations to veto had previously caused Toya and Ash go head to head in one explosive row and the arguments continued into the early hours.

big brother 2014 row toya marlon 1

After going at it with Ash, Toya ended up clashing with Marlon in the garden.

It all started as Toya told Matthew to “shut the ****** up” from the garden Power pod, while Marlon told her: “All you do is chat s**t, you’re fake. You’ve shown your true ******ing colours you p***k.”

As Marlon went to get into the Pod to confront Toya, Big Brother called him to the Diary Room as Toya snapped: “Marlon, stop embarrassing yourself.”



She then told the other housemates: “What people are failing to understand is that we didn’t even get to nominate, so the people in front of you nominated.”

With Marlon away in the Diary Room, Toya then moved on attack Winston from the security of the Pod.

“You’ve shown your true colours,” she told the Essex lad. “You have no respect for yourself and no respect for me. Who do you think you are?”

He replied: “You’re such a drama queen sitting up there shouting at everyone, who do you think you are?”

After things had calmed down, Matthew – who had escaped almost all of the flack – confided in Toya: “I can’t comprehend how Marlon just spoke to you, it’s disgraceful you.”


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[Kizzy]

The only thing she is spilling is saliva. :smug:

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Marsh.]

Winston is retarded, He sounds like he has an education of an 8 year old

Please don't use that offensive language.

OR..... All the woman are taking charge as all the men are weak crying pussies?

Come on now kizzy, be realistic. :hmph:

[00Jamie00]

Winston is retarded, He sounds like he has an education of an 8 year old

Bit rude, Winston won that arguement

[Jordan.]

Bit rude, Winston won that arguement

Lol no he didn't. He saw Ash was angry and went along with it, I dobt he even knew what he was arguing about.

[Samm]

Lol no he didn't. He saw Ash was angry and went along with it, I dobt he even knew what he was arguing about.

.

oh and btw Toya is getting more popular on Youtube right now so she is winning :clap1:

[Headie]

Please don't use that offensive language.

You told me to stop breathing, bye.

[Jemal]

Bit rude, Winston won that arguement

Nothing new there.

[Headie]

:worship: only a queen

:clap1:

[00Jamie00]

Lol no he didn't. He saw Ash was angry and went along with it, I dobt he even knew what he was arguing about.

So tell me how Toya came of best? Toya tried to say he has no respect for himself, Winston stood up for himself and his mates

[Marsh.]

You told me to stop breathing, bye.

No I didn't. Hello.

[Kizzy]

Come on now kizzy, be realistic. :hmph:

I am being, where is the alpha? all we have is crying mummies boys, flotsam or laughing fools for male HMs :hmph:

[erinp5]

At the end of the article it says 'Another twist coming'
I do hope that's the nomination of one of the two Ph
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/everything-you-need-know-about-day-17

[Jords]

Theres another vid with the argument that happened before hand Jords just incase you haven't seen it...

t01SfU0R5do

Just caught them all up thanks a lot you 2 :douf:

Winston > the other 3

[Jemal]

Ah winston is a good guy.
If winston is retarded, i must have downsydrome.

[Jords]

Ah winston is a good guy.
If winston is retarded, i must have downsydrome.

hmm quite possibly :worry:

But youre probably still a nice guy too.....

[Jemal]

hmm quite possibly :worry:

But youre probably still a nice guy too.....

:laugh:

[Kizzy]

Ah winston is a good guy.
If winston is retarded, i must have downsydrome.

Agreed, he's had a laugh, been entertaining, hasn't been rude to anyone, kept out of petty drams and defended himself fairly and directly...... dark horse.

[Marsh.]

Can we stop throwing the word "******" around?

[reece(:]

Astonished at the way Toya's been ganged upon by these apparent "men"

[Marsh.]

:joker:

[Rob!]

Lmao at the people saying Winston slayed Toya. :joker:

[Heaven = Winner]

I don't like Winston, but I will admit the Sylvester Stallone joke was pretty funny :joker:

[Shaun]

Must have to have been there to get that joke... :unsure:

Meh, they all come across stupid here. No surprises. Interesting how people change once they're up for eviction, though...

[Lostie!]

Love these new arguments / rivalries. I love BB drama, but it's better when we get it between people who haven't clashed with each other yet, rather than between the same ones all the time. :worship:

[Vanessa]

Toya will get herself evicted if she carries on like that. I knew Steven would be happy for Kim. :love:

[Ammi]

t01SfU0R5do

..we're all adults in this room..'../phrase of the series...

[Vanessa]

I don't like the way Toya was shouting in that video. It would have pissed me off if i was in there.

[Ammi]

Must have to have been there to get that joke... :unsure:

Meh, they all come across stupid here. No surprises. Interesting how people change once they're up for eviction, though...

..yep, no 'winners' so far as I could see/just another day in the playground...

[AnnieK]

I don't like the way Toya was shouting in that video. It would have pissed me off if i was in there.

The way she points when arguing with people it what drives me insane, it's rude and I would snap it off it she was pointing in my face :rant:

[Pete.]

Winston is retarded, He sounds like he has an education of an 8 year old
Spill it yas

[joeysteele]

It was only a matter of time before the others got peed off with Toya's despot complex

Like Kim Jong IL, you cant disagree with her, she just wont have it, wont listen to it, it makes you wonder how she ever comes by her opinions, as she never listens to anything anyone else ever says

Exactly, she is impossible to reason with. She gets little sympathy from me, I liked the line from Winston when she was going on about not seeing that side to him yesterday,then he added that they hadn't seen that side to her either.

She is really hard work and only her opinion matters with everyone having to fall in line.
As you say, she never listens,she just talks then shouts over you,how they ever came to elect such an ignorant person to be the power housemate is beyond me but let her carry on this way.

This week they know she is the power housemate so hopefully she will have a rotten week next wek if she doesn't get put up and go.
I do feel sorry for Matthew, he does after all 'have to work' this week with this uncompromising and overbearing individual, good luck to him as to that.

[joeysteele]

I don't like the way Toya was shouting in that video. It would have pissed me off if i was in there.

She does have that effect on people doesn't she.:joker:

[Pete.]

No I didn't. Hello.
Yes you did I remember

[GypsyGoth]

I don't think Toya has a good style when it comes to getting across her point in an argument. At times she is the only one shouting and she tells others to calm down.

The three boys were obliviously hurt by the noms twist, they were sure Toya was on their side, that instead of purposely or accidentally saving Kim, that they would benefit. Also I believe cancelling Ash's vote was the biggest insult to him. He's the alpha male in there, so in a way it was a direct attack on him.

I'm glad Toya stood her ground at times against them. And I loved the part where the power couple are in the pod and Ash, Winston and Toya are still arguing.

http://i.imgur.com/UlMB0fR.gif

I'm pretty sure Toya is going to come across in a very bad light. Viewers, who already labeled her as a Poline waiting in the wings, will have an i-knew-it moment.

And another thing that Toya did was a mistake, she silenced Matthew, she could have taken that moment to gather her thoughts and calm herself down, Matthew has as much responsibility for the outcome as she does.

But yea from the vids it's clear to see we've missed large chunks of what went on, can't wait for the HL show. And in a way BB totally set the power couple up, good job BB :hehe:

[chuff me dizzy]

Why,why,why did she choose Matt ? hes going to get the backlash from this ,and I doubt very much hes been allowed to make a single decision,she will have spoken over him ,and hes clearly a timid lad who will have let her ,but as I said the other day Im thrilled shes PH ,because its goodbye Toya now

[Benjamin]

Must have to have been there to get that joke... :unsure:

Meh, they all come across stupid here. No surprises. Interesting how people change once they're up for eviction, though...

I was just thinking this. Nice to have confirmed that Marlon, Ash and Winston are complete douchebags though.

[chuff me dizzy]

I was just thinking this. Nice to have confirmed that Marlon, Ash and Winston are complete douchebags though.

I had already seen it ,that STUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDD little boy in a mans body Winston really grates on my every nerve :cloud: Ash thinks he can and should win on his looks,Marlon is playing it very safe, but hes far from the worst person in there ,but winner ? no never

[smeagol]

i think winston will win the way its going. he doesn't seen to take things seriosuly.which is a big plus. hard guy to dislike .only chris christopher and mathew seem to be within a chance and maybe jale if people fall for her game plan.

though not seen tonights argument so you might have to scrub that thought lol

[under_my_bed]

I don't actually like Toya, but all this row was absurd. If it were Christopher's, Chris's and Jale's nominations cancelled, we would not have heard another word about it. It feels like some HM feels so much superior to others, it's not even funny.

[Shaun]

i think winston will win the way its going. he doesn't seen to take things seriosuly.which is a big plus. hard guy to dislike .only chris christopher and mathew seem to be within a chance and maybe jale if people fall for her game plan.

though not seen tonights argument so you might have to scrub that thought lol

except being nominated...

[Jemal]

Still loling at the Sylvester Stallone joke that winston said.

[chuff me dizzy]

i think winston will win the way its going. he doesn't seen to take things seriosuly.which is a big plus. hard guy to dislike .only chris christopher and mathew seem to be within a chance and maybe jale if people fall for her game plan.

though not seen tonights argument so you might have to scrub that thought lol

He is one of my worst in there,just looking at him makes me want to vom

[Benjamin]

I don't actually like Toya, but all this row was absurd. If it were Christopher's, Chris's and Jale's nominations cancelled, we would not have heard another word about it. It feels like some HM feels so much superior to others, it's not even funny.

Yeah Toya can be annoying but the superiority complex of Ash, Marlon and Winston is beyond annoying. I really hope one of them goes this week.

[mrflibble]

I thought Toya actually came across well in this argument :/ And I'm not a Toya fan. And when I say 'well', I mean compared to the others involved. I agree that she does yell and shout too much, and doesn't let others get a word in, but I probably would've gotten my back up in the same situation. It's a game, some of them don't seem to be aware that they are players and are all playing by the same rules. She kind of forced Christopher to listen to an explanation he wasn't ready to deal with and refuses to explain to the ones who demand one. Having not seen the full argument yet, it's hard to say who is really in the wrong though, but so far, Ash, Winston and Marlon come across horribly.

Every week, all the housemates turn against the PH, but would be more than happy to have the power. Most of them accepted Pauline with the power, but she had more nice things to give out and no-one cared about Jale anyway.

[Jemal]

Im sorry but In Toya's world she feels its ok to shout down at people and not listen to others opinions, shes so tunnelled its unbelievable. Than god her or steven will be gone this week if shes up.

People forget the boys started raising their voices because Toya was shouting down to them, who does she think she is lol. Saying calm the **** down when no-one is hyped, trying to play the victim.

[Mick]

This looks really interesting does anyone know the back ground.? Some are upset because they where nominated but it was not the power holders who did so.?

[Gusto Brunt]

i'd kill for a live feed

I wouldn't kill but I'd pay £15.

[smeagol]

except being nominated...

well we dont know that yet. all i saw was a joke response

[Benjamin]

Im sorry but In Toya's world she feels its ok to shout down at people and not listen to others opinions, shes so tunnelled its unbelievable. Than god her or steven will be gone this week if shes up.

People forget the boys started raising their voices because Toya was shouting down to them, who does she think she is lol. Saying calm the **** down when no-one is hyped, trying to play the victim.

Yet the boys being douchebags and thinking they are above being nominated/put up for eviction and having a go at Toya for it is any better?

[under_my_bed]

Im sorry but In Toya's world she feels its ok to shout down at people and not listen to others opinions, shes so tunnelled its unbelievable. Than god her or steven will be gone this week if shes up.

People forget the boys started raising their voices because Toya was shouting down to them, who does she think she is lol. Saying calm the **** down when no-one is hyped, trying to play the victim.

I agree, that trying to reason with Toya is mission impossible, but reaction from boys also was unreasonable. They feel that it is somehow attack on them or try to save someone, but if it were someone else whose nomination canceled, that somehow would be ok. Also did Toya and Mathew knew who nominated whom, before canceling nominations?

[smeagol]

He is one of my worst in there,just looking at him makes me want to vom

ha i get what you mean. just cant seem to fault him yet cept the look and dimness. though maybe tonight might see more of who he is

[Cherie]

Still loling at the Sylvester Stallone joke that winston said.

:laugh: that was funny

[under_my_bed]

It's also funny to see how petrified Matthiew looks through all this decision making faze. His sarcasm is definitely a defense mechanism. He looks as nervous as at opening night. I believe if he would be picked on as the others were, he already would have broken down.

[Cherie]

This looks really interesting does anyone know the back ground.? Some are upset because they where nominated but it was not the power holders who did so.?

The power couple vetoed the noms of Steven, Ash and Marlon thereby saving Kim, i think they thought that The uncool kids should have had their votes vetoed, not them as they are so popular :smug:

[chuff me dizzy]

So Kim now knows at least 2 of those 3 voted for her ? am I right :conf:

[Shaun]

yeah, or at least one anyway... with the number of people up, it might now just be "everyone who got 2 or more nominations is up"... she could have still just had one, meaning she only needed one from those 3 to be up...

it's all very confusing :laugh: they might all have chosen her, which could've led to a situation where there were only 2 new nominees (who got about 4 votes each)...

either way I bet Toya's kicking herself now she's accidentally saved Kim :love:

[Ammi]

Im sorry but In Toya's world she feels its ok to shout down at people and not listen to others opinions, shes so tunnelled its unbelievable. Than god her or steven will be gone this week if shes up.

People forget the boys started raising their voices because Toya was shouting down to them, who does she think she is lol. Saying calm the **** down when no-one is hyped, trying to play the victim.

..I wouldn't disagree with you there Jemal, she never allows for other people to speak and I think for me that's why there are no 'rights' in this arguments because Toya was her usual idiot so it's just more who was the most wrong and I think in this case, the guys were more wrong than her...which actually probably takes a bit of doing so they did well/or not well..lol....

[chuff me dizzy]

yeah, or at least one anyway... with the number of people up, it might now just be "everyone who got 2 or more nominations is up"... she could have still just had one, meaning she only needed one from those 3 to be up...

it's all very confusing :laugh: they might all have chosen her, which could've led to a situation where there were only 2 new nominees (who got about 4 votes each)...

either way I bet Toya's kicking herself now she's accidentally saved Kim :love:

Very confusing :joker:

[Johnnyuk123]

Talking AT people is not a conversation Toya.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

I just don't get it. Toya wasn't in the wrong and you all know it. Don't act stupid.

[Shaun]

starting to emulate your hero a bit there aren't you

[Ammi]

I just don't get it. Toya wasn't in the wrong and you all know it. Don't act stupid.

..yup I think she was, she just wasn't as in the wrong as them in this but I also think that she escalates a lot of situations including this one because she frustrates people by not allowing them to speak or not listening to them and carrying on talking over them...that's something that I would find infuriating and I would think they do as well..people have to be allowed a voice...

[Jemal]

I just don't get it. Toya wasn't in the wrong and you all know it. Don't act stupid.

all because i don't agree with you doesn't mean im acting stupid or i'm stupid :shrug:

[lovebigbrotheruk]

..yup I think she was, she just wasn't as in the wrong as them in this but I also think that she escalates a lot of situations including this one because she frustrates people by not allowing them to speak or not listening to them and carrying on talking over them...that's something that I would find infuriating and I would think they do as well..people have to be allowed a voice...

Wow, what a mature response :shocked:

I'm not used to that around here. Fair point, and you actually justified your reasoning.

[Marc]

Goodbye Toya lol

[lovebigbrotheruk]

all because i don't agree with you doesn't mean im acting stupid or i'm stupid :shrug:

Aww, I'm sorry Jemal...but you know she was kind of in the right, admit it :smug:

[Jemal]

Aww, I'm sorry Jemal...but you know she was kind of in the right, admit it :smug:

She was in the right in the fact that she didnt make the noms yes.
So the grief shes getting from that is pointless.

But she deserved what she got in terms of the way she was talking to them like they are her peasants.

[smudgie]

Oh dear, if only Toya could realise that the minute you lose it,you lose the argument.

Thankfully she is too full of herself to have a reasonable debate..therefore she will be the one to be put up by the rest of the housemates in the twist, if indeed it is them that gets to choose.:dance:

[Jake.]

Omfg :joker: Toya's a tit and the three blokes have the most sour grapes going, not sure how anybody came across good in this.. not that I care :laugh:

[lovebigbrotheruk]

She was in the right in the fact that she didnt make the noms yes.
So the grief shes getting from that is pointless.

But she deserved what she got in terms of the way she was talking to them like they are her peasants.

Ash started it by calling her a pr*ck according to the article so I would have reacted the way Toya did...

"Calm the ***** down people" :joker:

[MrWong]

I don't actually like Toya, but all this row was absurd. If it were Christopher's, Chris's and Jale's nominations cancelled, we would not have heard another word about it. It feels like some HM feels so much superior to others, it's not even funny.

Well said.

It's because Toya's the forums current whipping girl.

To me it looks like 3 butthurt little boys that can't handle the rules of the game.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

Well said.

It's because Toya's the forums current whipping girl.

To me it looks like 3 butthurt little boys that can't handle the rules of the game.

Let's become friends :shrug:

[Ammi]

She was in the right in the fact that she didnt make the noms yes.
So the grief shes getting from that is pointless.

But she deserved what she got in terms of the way she was talking to them like they are her peasants.

..I guess you could even say maybe that the 'superiority' that Toya seems to feel she has in her rights to talk over anyone else's etc was what she faced in the argument so she kind of came up against a similar mindset and behaviour so she should see how frustrating that is for the people around her...

[Jemal]

Exactly^

[Marc]

I am surprised Toya/Matthew veto'ed Ash, Marlon and Steven's nominations

[Nerd]

I still find it unfair that when Pauline had the power, she had the opportunity to make herself look like a saint by dishing out rewards to the rest of the housemates. For Chris, Matthew and Toya, it seems as though Power is something to be avoided.

[Cherie]

I still find it unfair that when Pauline had the power, she had the opportunity to make herself look like a saint by dishing out rewards to the rest of the housemates. For Chris, Matthew and Toya, it seems as though Power is something to be avoided.

Agree with this.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

I still find it unfair that when Pauline had the power, she had the opportunity to make herself look like a saint by dishing out rewards to the rest of the housemates. For Chris, Matthew and Toya, it seems as though Power is something to be avoided.

:clap2:

[under_my_bed]

Toya's biggest downfall will be inability to listen. She doesn't listen to anything anyone says, unless it is something she wants to hear. It's great to have an opinion, but tom dismiss anyone else is just lack of social skill. It's actually a shame, because she had a lot of potential.

[AnnieK]

I still find it unfair that when Pauline had the power, she had the opportunity to make herself look like a saint by dishing out rewards to the rest of the housemates. For Chris, Matthew and Toya, it seems as though Power is something to be avoided.

Agreed :clap2:

[Marc]

The Power is obviously not a good thing, which is why BB have introduced it into this series. You can tell that from the very first week. It's better not to have the power because you wont become a hate figure.

[Jemal]

I still find it unfair that when Pauline had the power, she had the opportunity to make herself look like a saint by dishing out rewards to the rest of the housemates. For Chris, Matthew and Toya, it seems as though Power is something to be avoided.

Agree

[Jemal]

Toya's biggest downfall will be inability to listen. She doesn't listen to anything anyone says, unless it is something she wants to hear. It's great to have an opinion, but tom dismiss anyone else is just lack of social skill. It's actually a shame, because she had a lot of potential.

Agree

[Ammi]

I still find it unfair that when Pauline had the power, she had the opportunity to make herself look like a saint by dishing out rewards to the rest of the housemates. For Chris, Matthew and Toya, it seems as though Power is something to be avoided.

..yeah but even with that I think having the power is what brought out her negative personality the way it did and got her voted out straight away..with Chris, his wasn't as good a power but he still came out of it looking good..(I think..)..that's because of the type of person he is and the same with Toya, I don't think it matters the nature of her power so much as how she handles it/what she does with it and the aspects of her personality that the power emphasises...it's not good or bad power for me, it's more the person having the power...

[chuff me dizzy]

starting to emulate your hero a bit there aren't you

:clap1:

[lovebigbrotheruk]

:clap1:

I could swear you and Shaun are the same person...so weird :joker:

[Josy]

And to think last week we were told over and over, don't evict Pauline or the house will be boring..as usual that theory has been proved wrong.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

And to think last week we were told over and over, don't evict Pauline or the house will be boring..as usual that theory has been proved wrong.

We have Toya to thank for that :laugh:

[Josy]

We have Toya to thank for that :laugh:

There was more than Toya involved in what happened, she never had an argument with herself.

[MrWong]

Let's become friends :shrug:

:hug:

I love how Winstons cheeky chappy mask has slipped as well.

I'm now wondering who nominated him.

[smeagol]

There was more than Toya involved in what happened, she never had an argument with herself.

if anyone can argue with themselves its toya lol

[Jemal]

:hug:

I love how Winstons cheeky chappy mask has slipped as well.

I'm now wondering who nominated him.

So because hes stood up for himself, hes mask is slipping?
The logic is brilliant :joker:

I love how if a nice guy has been nice all thr way throuh and gets angry once for the first time, "his mask is slipping".

It happened with callum last year, its classic.

[MrWong]

So because hes stood up for himself, hes mask is slipping?
The logic is brilliant :joker:

I love how if a nice guy has been nice all thr way throuh and gets angry once for the first time, "his mask is slipping".

It happened with callum last year, its classic.

He's butthurt because someone had the audacity to nom him.

He's even getting cocky. http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-17-does-ash-have-enemies-house

[TiBB Frontpage Article]

Jake. has posted a new TiBB frontpage article.

In the early hours of this morning, things seemed to kick off big time between housemates, originating from nominations (spoilers are ahead).

With the usual nominations process taking place, Ash, Danielle, Chris, Steven, Marlon, Kimberly and Winston all were placed up for eviction by their fellow housemates.

However, unknown to the.....

Excerpt of article quoted above. Read full article here - http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/bigbrother15-2014/news-253979/big-brother-argument-toya-and-ash-lock-horns.html

[Samm]

Winstons just angry that somebody in the house dislikes him, I hope the public turns on him

[Samm]

MrWong :worship:

[Jemal]

He's butthurt because someone had the audacity to nom him.

He's even getting cocky. http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-17-does-ash-have-enemies-house

Love that arrogance winston son.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

Love that arrogance winston son.

That's a bit hypocritical :shrug:

[Jemal]

how, ive never posted "arrogant people are twats" lol.
purely cause im arrogant most of the time.

I LIKE TO call it confidence tho :smug:

[mrmattybeck1]

And this time next week we'll be sat watching Winston talk about one of his sex experiences :bored:

Can't understand why people want Toya out, it's literally turning into the Deana situation where the whole house hate her, but can't get rid of her. Except in this case, they can, ffs :bored:
I love toya very entertaining

[Kizzy]

I'm glad the lads told her, she needed telling...

[lovebigbrotheruk]

I love toya very entertaining

lol, love it :joker:

Keep it short and simple :hehe:

[mrmattybeck1]

lol, love it :joker:

Keep it short and simple :hehe:
agree she's keeping the series going for me

[lovebigbrotheruk]

agree she's keeping the series going for me

She's keeping the series going, period. :joker:

[Jamie585]

I'm so happy Pauline went! None of this would of happened had she still been there!

[00Jamie00]

He's butthurt because someone had the audacity to nom him.

He's even getting cocky. http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-17-does-ash-have-enemies-house

He's not arguing because he's up for eviction, it's because Toya vetoed Steven, Ash and Marlon's nominations. Toya was being all friendly to them to their face and when she had the chance to stab them in their backs she did

[MrWong]

He's not arguing because he's up for eviction, it's because Toya vetoed Steven, Ash and Marlon's nominations. Toya was being all friendly to them to their face and when she had the chance to stab them in their backs she did

His nom's weren't vetoed. What Toya did has **** all to do with him.

He's pissed off at being nominated and using someone elses argument to voice how butthurt he is.

[Cherie]

:hug:

I love how Winstons cheeky chappy mask has slipped as well.

I'm now wondering who nominated him.

I reckon Chris nommed him and maybe Ashleigh.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

FFS why did BB intervene and call Marlon to the diary room mid fight?

[Josy]

FFS why did BB intervene and call Marlon to the diary room mid fight?

Exactly my thoughts, it wasn't even as if he was being aggressive either he was just shouting back the same as everyone else :huh:

[Josy]

If anything I would have thought they would have shouted either Ash or Toya during the first argument (from the other vid)

[Jake.]

It was because he attempted to go up to the pod I think

[MrWong]

I reckon Chris nommed him and maybe Ashleigh.

Possibly. Maybe even Kim.

[00Jamie00]

His nom's weren't vetoed. What Toya did has **** all to do with him.

He's pissed off at being nominated and using someone elses argument to voice how butthurt he is.

I know his votes were not vetoed I didn't say they were.
He's standing up for himself after Toya said he has no respect for himself, and also his mates after Toya stabbed them in the back

[Sophiee]

winston standing up to toya :worship:
I feel sorry for matthew being stuck in the middle of it all when he didn't even want this power.
matthew saying 'whatever his name is' about marlon :laugh: I think marlon is just annoyed that he's nominated. and it's shocking to see helen not getting involved for once.

[Marsh.]

Yes you did I remember

:pat: Of course you do.

[Samm]

winston standing up to toya :worship:
I feel sorry for matthew being stuck in the middle of it all when he didn't even want this power.
matthew saying 'whatever his name is' about marlon :laugh: I think marlon is just annoyed that he's nominated. and it's shocking to see helen not getting involved for once.

How's winston standing up to toya, toya destroyed him

[00Jamie00]

How's winston standing up to toya, toya destroyed him

https://31.media.tumblr.com/4146e398781840c7710120941ad0dc6c/tumblr_n35nw2HWvB1slhwslo2_250.gif

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I think the Helen Danielle argument was far worse than this tbh. Will wait and see tonights highlights.

Looking forward to it :)

[calyman]

I don't like the way Toya was shouting in that video. It would have pissed me off if i was in there.
True, I was hoping someone would request that she "calm the ******* down".

[MrWong]

I know his votes were not vetoed I didn't say they were.
He's standing up for himself after Toya said he has no respect for himself, and also his mates after Toya stabbed them in the back

This would imply that they were close to Toya.

I've not seen that in the house.

Why are they above being vetoed by her (and Matthew)?

[erinp5]

I know his votes were not vetoed I didn't say they were.
He's standing up for himself after Toya said he has no respect for himself, and also his mates after Toya stabbed them in the back

Power couple Toya and Matthew chose to void the nominations of Ash, Steven and Marlon.

[Daffodil]

I think Toya is ok.

[erinp5]

I think Toya is ok.

I am waiting to see the conversation the power duo had in deciding who they were going to veto.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Winston just shading it

[00Jamie00]

This would imply that they were close to Toya.

I've not seen that in the house.

Why are they above being vetoed by her (and Matthew)?

Toya has been part of the Helen group which included Steven and Ash, they are not above being vetoed but it was a surprise to see I think for everyone.

That's the main reason they were arguing with her, it's not all about being up for eviction

[erinp5]

Toya has been part of the Helen group which included Steven and Ash, they are not above being vetoed but it was a surprise to see I think for everyone.

That's the main reason they were arguing with her, it's not all about being up for eviction

I agree ,having their noms vetoed put them in danger and they are pissed about it .
Winston in fairness cracked a joke with her regarding they way she addressed the group and she told him to **** ,that's his beef with her ..

[Drew.]

What an absolute bitch Toya is.

[MrWong]

Toya has been part of the Helen group which included Steven and Ash, they are not above being vetoed but it was a surprise to see I think for everyone.

That's the main reason they were arguing with her, it's not all about being up for eviction

Toya's friends with Helen and so by association is friends with Ash and Steven. Who's to say that Ash or Steven was her choice anyway, Matthew is part of the power duo too.

Winston and Marlon aren't part of any group.

[Vicky.]

Havent seen last nights BB yet or anything, so not too sure what all of this is about...but I'm starting to like Toya again tbh. God the lads don't seem happy that shes power HM :laugh:

I think I need to catch up

[Vicky.]

t01SfU0R5do

Makes a bit more sense now..

LOL at 'you accused us of saving kim'

Cue steven to kim 'you're safe, thats the main thing' :D

Stevens well and truly broken ranks hasnt he :laugh:

[wendywillow]

Makes a bit more sense now..

LOL at 'you accused us of saving kim'

Cue steven to kim 'you're safe, thats the main thing' :D

Stevens well and truly broken ranks hasnt he :laugh:

I might have to start liking steve :shrug:

[Vanessa]

I knew Steven would be happy for Kim. He's got it bad! :D

[Tarryn]

I knew Steven would be happy for Kim. He's got it bad! :D

I never thought from his VT that he would be like that. Totally shocked at how bad he likes Kim. Did Pauline take his balls with her when she left ?.
Also, Toya is at the centre of every argument now. Keep her in for a few more weeks & most of the other housemates would have dug a tunnel out of there :wavey:

[Vanessa]

I never thought from his VT that he would be like that. Totally shocked at how bad he likes Kim. Did Pauline take his balls with her when she left ?.
Also, Toya is at the centre of every argument now. Keep her in for a few more weeks & most of the other housemates would have dug a tunnel out of there :wavey:

Nothing wrong in liking someone. Hope Kim isn't messing him around.

[Tarryn]

Nothing wrong in liking someone. Hope Kim isn't messing him around.

Only time will tell. I love how Toya keeps saying "Steven can do better", she keeps saying it.