Who's side are you on? (Big Fight)

[Headie]

Toya is going to be an outcast now, Jale will have to step her game up if she wants to play the victim :joker:

[Pete.]

Team Toya > Team Bore

[Jemal]

Can you change the vote.. Cause your oboously trying to make people vote for toya by putting helen in the vote:joker:

[Marsh.]

I'll wait until the highlights since we are only aware of half of this argument.

Don't want to be accused of judging on a 2 minute video or anything. :hehe:

[Heaven = Winner]

#TeamToya

[wendywillow]

since the argument started midway its impossible to say

[Headie]

Can you change the vote.. Cause your oboously trying to make people vote for toya by putting helen in the vote:joker:

Your post just proves people vote for who they dislike in polls like this and don't even consider whether the person they dislike is actually in the right or not.

[Jemal]

Exactly.
Your post represents why toya is winning this poll.

[Jordan.]

Toya >>>> the pressed egos

[Brother Leon]

The dream team


Winston
Ash
Marlon

Not taking any **** from that silly woman.

[Josy]

Helen wasn't even involved. and Toya was team cool kids apparently until today so the poll has been edited.

[Marsh.]

Helen wasn't even involved. and Toya was team cool kids apparently until today so the poll has been edited.

:joker:

[Achilles]

Toya has been a bitch since she entered the house and hasn't made me laugh once. Winston has made me laugh several times and I have not once heard him bitch about anybody. Why would I be on Team Toya? I don't support nasty people.

[Daniel.]

Toya >

Winston, Ash and Marlon are collectively the worst trio in BB history

[Jemal]

Toya has been a bitch since she entered the house and hasn't made me laugh once. Winston has made me laugh several times and I have not once heard him bitch about anybody. Why would I be on Team Toya? I don't support nasty people.

^^^^^^

[joeysteele]

Definitely not Toya's for me.

[Daniel.]

Do Winston, Marlon and Ash actually have a personality between them?

[erinp5]

If Toya told me to sit down and **** I would not be pleased.
Winston joked and called her Sylvester Stallone ,I found that funny but she was having none of it .
I maybe should have waited for tomorrows Hl show before I voted .:hehe:

[Samm]

Toya >>>>>>>> The Bores

[Jordan.]

Anyone not voting Toya it's just because they dislike her. She had to use her power and got attacked for doing so, there's no other side to it.

[Marsh.]

Do Winston, Marlon and Ash actually have a personality between them?

Translation: Why do Winston, Marlon and Ash not act the same way as Toya and scream in people's faces?

[Jords]

Ok just watched the vids... nobody's really. Ash/Winston/Marlon are just another case of taking the game choices way too personal - nominations got veto'd in some silly twist who gives a ****? And as for Toya shes far too defensive and dominating with her "LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING" line. ****.

If any offence is to be taken its by Kimberly finding out that 1-3 of Marlon/Winston/Steven nominated her.

[Marsh.]

Anyone not voting Toya it's just because they dislike her. She had to use her power and got attacked for doing so, there's no other side to it.

Considering from the video it was Toya who took it to a screaming match there is quite a lot we have yet to see. The "prick" comment included.

[Achilles]

I don't even get the reference of "whatever Sylvester Stallone" but just laughed at the randomness of it. Anyone know what the reference is or was he confusing Stallone with some other actor?

[Headie]

Helen wasn't even involved. and Toya was team cool kids apparently until today so the poll has been edited.

Proves how fake they all are if they ditch her that quick!

[Josy]

Anyone not voting Toya it's just because they dislike her. She had to use her power and got attacked for doing so, there's no other side to it.

I can't speak for anyone else but I voted I wasn't on Toyas side after seeing the clips from tonight which clearly showed her as the only one having a breakdown in the house.

[Marsh.]

I don't even get the reference of "whatever Sylvester Stallone" but just laughed at the randomness of it. Anyone know what the reference is or was he confusing Stallone with some other actor?

I'm guessing because she jumped off the sofa, erupted and was bouncing around from one person to another as though spoiling for a fight.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

I can't speak for anyone else but I voted I wasn't on Toyas side after seeing the clips from tonight which clearly showed her as the only one having a breakdown in the house.

Well, I didn't expect anything else from you Josy :joker:

[Jords]

I don't even get the reference of "whatever Sylvester Stallone" but just laughed at the randomness of it. Anyone know what the reference is or was he confusing Stallone with some other actor?

Same :joker:

Winston is so random and stupid but I really like the guy.

[Josy]

Well, I didn't expect anything else from you Josy :joker:

Good for you. :smug:

[Jordan.]

I can't speak for anyone else but I voted I wasn't on Toyas side after seeing the clips from tonight which clearly showed her as the only one having a breakdown in the house.

Regardless of her later actions she's still in the right when it comes to the cause of the argument.

[Daniel.]

Translation: Why do Winston, Marlon and Ash not act the same way as Toya and scream in people's faces?

Not at all. They are unbelievably boring, I was a fan of Hazel for example and she didn't scream in people's faces,nor did most of my other favourites like Imogen, Derek etc.

I like fun housemates as well as bitchy ones and they aren't

[Josy]

Regardless of her later actions she's still in the right when it comes to the cause of the argument.

How can you know that when you have seen the same as the rest of us?

That clip it looks like the argument got so bad because she told everyone to calm the f down, she even says at the end in reply to someone saying they never done anything 'that could be true'

[Achilles]

I'm guessing because she jumped off the sofa, erupted and was bouncing around from one person to another as though spoiling for a fight.

That makes sense. At first I thought he said it in response to what she said, but it was actually how she was acting. Be funny if some other housemate starting doing Mickey impressions or Mr T :laugh:

[Marsh.]

Regardless of her later actions she's still in the right when it comes to the cause of the argument.

That doesn't make her right. :umm2: That makes her just as bad.

The first video shows the catalyst of the argument being resolved in 5 seconds by Helen confirming what was said.

Then the shouting continued and they had an argument about the argument.

[Achilles]

Same :joker:

Winston is so random and stupid but I really like the guy.

Funniest part of the whole series for me was the living in the wild, eating dead birds story he made up. :laugh:

[Jordan.]

How can you know that when you have seen the same as the rest of us?

That clip it looks like the argument got so bad because she told everyone to calm the f down, she even says at the end in reply to someone saying they never done anything 'that could be true'

That clip was all the later actions... if they didn't make such a fuss over her using a power she didn't ask for there wouldn't have been an argument :shrug:

[reece(:]

Anyone not voting Toya it's just because they dislike her. She had to use her power and got attacked for doing so, there's no other side to it.
This.

It's sort of made me understand the annoyance at Chris being targeted for using the power last week. Pathetic actually, The Bores must go.

[Shaun]

from what I understand, she & matthew chose to revoke their nominations, and they got pissy about it because they're now up and couldn't just bloc-vote kim/chris... so... her side, obviously?

[Rob!]

I'll wait until the highlights since we are only aware of half of this argument.

Don't want to be accused of judging on a 2 minute video or anything. :hehe:

Can you imagine if we had to make vital character assessments on these people from heavily edited footage?? D:

[Marsh.]

Can you imagine if we had to make vital character assessments on these people from heavily edited footage?? D:

Absolutely unthinkable Robert.

Just the thought is giving me the willies. :worry:

[Achilles]

Before the argument, Toya and Ash were both strong members of team bitch aka cool kids gang. There are unspoken rules you follow when part of a bitch gang. You don't go against other members of the bitch gang is one of those rules. So from the perspective of Ash, he is entitled to be pissed off at Toya, because she went against her fellow bitch gang members. Both Toya and Ash are bitches, they were members of the bitch gang. Then they have a big bust up. The root cause of the bust up is the fact that they are both bitchy people. It is a clash between 2 strong members of the pack, fighting for superiority over the other. If Ash and Toya do not kiss and make up, one of them will have to leave the cool kids gang and form their own gang.

[Rob!]

Absolutely unthinkable Robert.

Just the thought is giving me the willies. :worry:

Do not concern yourself dear Marshamus, you know how you get when overexcited. :worry:

[Marsh.]

Do not concern yourself dear Marshamus, you know how you get when overexcited. :worry:

You promised we wouldn't speak of that. :hehe:

[Rob!]

You promised we wouldn't speak of that. :hehe:

I'm sorry. Sometimes I need to release.










:hehe:

[Josy]

from what I understand, she & matthew chose to revoke their nominations, and they got pissy about it because they're now up and couldn't just bloc-vote kim/chris... so... her side, obviously?

Toya's complete over reaction and screaming at everyone like a lunatic loses her the argument even if she did have any valid points in the first place.

[Brother Leon]

from what I understand, she & matthew chose to revoke their nominations, and they got pissy about it because they're now up and couldn't just bloc-vote kim/chris... so... her side, obviously?

They got pissy, because Toya went all Mugabe dictatorship on them when they simply asked why they were picked :laugh:

[Marsh.]

They got pissy, because Toya went all Mugabe dictatorship on them when they simply asked why they were picked :laugh:

:joker:

[Achilles]

Toya: I want you to tell me what to do.
Ash: You want ME to tell you what to do?
Toya: Yes, you are my friend. We are the cool kids, not them. You should have told me not to make a decision that would mean Kimberley escapes the public vote.
Ash: I DID!
Toya: But you did not persuade me Ash, you did not persuade me!

[Loukas]

Toya's

[Ammi]

..can anyone give me a little low down of the argument, I missed it..?..

[Mystic Mock]

If everyone was being fair then they would side with Toya as BB told her that she had to null and void three Housemates nominations, what was she suppose to do?

[Ammi]

If everyone was being fair then they would side with Toya as BB told her that she had to null and void three Housemates nominations, what was she suppose to do?

..Mock, could you give me a little run down of events about it please...

[Ammi]

..and don't you be giving me any biased version either..:fist:...

[Mystic Mock]

Toya's complete over reaction and screaming at everyone like a lunatic loses her the argument even if she did have any valid points in the first place.

How does it? She has more valid points than the other three therefore she's in the right.

[Mystic Mock]

..and don't you be giving me any biased version either..:fist:...

Tbf I've only watched one video of the argument but it kind of goes like this.

BB wants Toya and Matthew to nullify three other Housemates nominations, they choose Ash, Marlon, and Steven, Ash, Marlon, and Winston aren't happy that it saved Kimberly from going up for eviction, Toya then also starts mouthing off, Matthew stays out of the fight, we then also have Steven comforting Kimberly and congratulating her for being there for another week, and Marlon got called to the Diary Room when him and Toya was getting really heated in the Garden.

I've tried to be as fair as possible there, I hope I've explained it well.

[Ammi]

Tbf I've only watched one video of the argument but it kind of goes like this.

BB wants Toya and Matthew to nullify three other Housemates nominations, they choose Ash, Marlon, and Steven, Ash, Marlon, and Winston aren't happy that it saved Kimberly from going up for eviction, Toya then also starts mouthing off, Matthew stays out of the fight, we then also have Steven comforting Kimberly and congratulating her for being there for another week, and Marlon got called to the Diary Room when him and Toya was getting really heated in the Garden.

I've tried to be as fair as possible there, I hope I've explained it well.

..ahhh thanks Mock..:love:..yeah you didn't give me any bias there..:laugh:..hmmm, I'm wondering why Marlon was called to the Diary Room during it..whether he was a bit intimidating but I'll watch whatever vids I can find on the forum...thank you young sir...

[Mystic Mock]

You're welcome Ammi.

I hope that they show this in it's full glory on the highlights tomorrow.

[Ammi]

You're welcome Ammi.

I hope that they show this in it's full glory on the highlights tomorrow.

..tomorrow/today now..:amazed:...yeah, it should be an exciting show/I always miss all the big stuff..:sad:...

[Mystic Mock]

Can't you tape it if you're too busy doing something else?

[Ammi]

Can't you tape it if you're too busy doing something else?

..yeah but that would require organisation and effort..:laugh:...

[Mystic Mock]

..yeah but that would require organisation and effort..:laugh:...

Fair enough lol.

[Vanessa]

Steven and Helen are staying out of the arguments for once. :laugh:

[mrflibble]

I'm on Toya's side, based on what I've seen. They had to choose 3 people. The 3 they chose are behaving like idiots, just like they did when Chris was nominating them secretly. Nobody in there is above any of the decisions made and they should stop acting like spoilt children.

[Mokka]

I am not a Toya fan by any means, but I have to take her side simply for the fact that these three guys are only kicking off because they are up for nomination. They are under the impression they are untouchable, and they use threatening actions when someone goes against them.
Toya should stand her ground.

[Ammi]

..oh yeah I forgot to actually comment on the question...I would be with Toya on this as well even though she may have been too 'shouty' and not handled it the best, that's just her way...just from the clips I've seen and nothing more until we see more..(and I might change my mind..:laugh:..)..but it seems that Ash, Marlon and Winston took umbrage to her PH decision which then put them up for eviction..?..and they considered that not a 'friend' thing to do..?..they've only known each other a few weeks and there are no friend codes here, only strategies, tactics and game plans...and for these housemates in particular I think these are coming before any friendships..and I would say that's the same for virtually all of them...

[Shaun]

They got pissy, because Toya went all Mugabe dictatorship on them when they simply asked why they were picked :laugh:

true true, I don't defend her at all :laugh: but I do think expecting reasons and justification for what was most likely a random, or in the very least not at all malicious, reason, is a bit silly as well.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Neither, both bad as one another. If I had to pick I would probably side with Toya because it was something she was too do but voiding 3 nominations; although she could have handled it better than screaming about it.

Winston really surprised me, I found his comment to Ash and Marlon "when we all stay" very arrogant and annoying to the point I actually rather one of them three go this week. Toya can go next week