Do you think the hate Toya gets is uncalled for?

[lovebigbrotheruk]

Yes or no. Simple.

[Jemal]

:facepalm:

[Ammi]

..she doesn't get hate, she gets criticism and yeah there is a lot to criticise from her behaviour in the house and the type of person she is in that she's only aware of herself and never seems to consider anyone else...

[Josy]

No. She comes across as rude, arrogant, shouts AT people without listening to what they have to say and acts as though everyone's opinion is wrong apart from her own, she can never admit things even if she is in the wrong always preferring instead to say 'oh well we were both in the wrong then' and she does all this all the while covering it up as 'saying how it is'

[lovebigbrotheruk]

:facepalm:

Jemal, leave me alone now. You are getting on my last nerve.

Just kidding :wink:

[Ammi]

..oh that wasn't a yes or no..:laugh:..sorry but there isn't an option I think would apply...

[Shaun]

I wouldn't say either really... she doesn't do herself favours and she needs to work on her diplomacy. She just tells people they've got the wrong idea, or they're not listening, when really all that comes across is "I don't want to listen to you". She loses her temper too quickly, too.

That said, I don't dislike her and I think she does make some sound judgment... just not about Kimberly :laugh:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Hate is a strong wrong, more like she is dislike because she is a hypocrite. She keeps bragging how she is the most honest person in the house and how she tells it too peoples faces; but in fact all she has shown to do is talk about people behind their backs and only confronts people when they confront her; for example she only confronted Christopher and Marlon because they confronted her. She has shown to bitch about Kimberly but when giving a chance to nominate her she backs out like the coward she is.

[Jemal]

Jemal, leave me alone now. You are getting on my last nerve.

Just kidding :wink:

:laugh:

[smudgie]

She makes it too easy to dislike her.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

She makes it too easy to dislike her.

Aww, well I haven't got a spec of hate inside of me for her so...:shrug: (Or in fact any housemate, 'ain't nobody got time fo dat')

This ordeal has made me warm to her even more actually.

[Marc]

No, if she wants to go around the house silently discussing the other housemates at will then she should expect to have to deal with the consequences. As should the others.

[smudgie]

Aww, well I haven't got a spec of hate inside of me for her so...:shrug: (Or in fact any housemate, 'ain't nobody got time fo dat')

This ordeal has made me warm to her even more actually.

I totally agree with not hating any of them.
I just can't take to Toya, all her shouting does my head in.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

No, if she wants to go around the house silently discussing the other housemates at will then she should expect to have to deal with the consequences. As should the others.

Well she has no choice but to discuss the other housemates since she is the PH :shrug:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Well she has no choice but to discuss the other housemates since she is the PH :shrug:

She was not the PH last week when she was talking about Christopher, Marlon and Kimberly behind their backs

[lovebigbrotheruk]

I totally agree with not hating any of them.
I just can't take to Toya, all her shouting does my head in.

Fair enough, each to their own.

I don't mind shouting, I expect it when I watch BB. It's been like that for 15 series :shrug:

[Josy]

Well she has no choice but to discuss the other housemates since she is the PH :shrug:

She has only been the PH for 2 days. She's been discussing other housemates behind their backs from day 2.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

She was not the PH last week when she was talking about Christopher, Marlon and Kimberly behind their backs

Christopher, she was basically talking to his face since he was in the room.

Marlon and Kimberly...she would have no problem saying anything to their faces, as shown by her recent argument with Marlon.

We all know full well Toya would say the things she says to their faces if it came to it.

But if she did...well she really would be a bully.

It's against human nature to confront someone for every little issue, it would just cause more unnecessary drama.

[joeysteele]

I have voted no it is not uncalled for, however I don't see it is a hate,I don't hate her,I don't know her.

Having said that I really dislike her actions in the house so far as a housemate and I also strongly dislike the way she talks to people and treats some people in the house too.

I have really seen very little,if anything at all to make me like her.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Christopher, she was basically talking to his face since he was in the room.

Marlon and Kimberly...she would have no problem saying anything to their faces, as shown by her recent argument with Marlon.

We all know full well Toya would say the things she says to their faces if it came to it.

But if she did...well she really would be a bully.

It's against human nature to confront someone for every little issue, it would just cause more unnecessary drama.

Im sorry but I dont believe this for a second, the only reason she confronted Marlon was because he confronted her. Toya is nothing but a coward and is all talk.

[Marc]

Well she has no choice but to discuss the other housemates since she is the PH :shrug:

C'mon now.. you can't be that oblivious. She's been a bitch since the beginning. There's no need to just bitch about people for no good reason and that's exactly what she has been doing.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

C'mon now.. you can't be that oblivious. She's been a bitch since the beginning. There's no need to just bitch about people for no good reason and that's exactly what she has been doing.

Name one housemate who hasn't been bitchy apart from Winston (and even he probably has, we just haven't seen it)...please :omg:

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the double standards are unreal.

[waterhog]

not a nice person - and when debating she shuts down if you have a view she does not like.

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

Oh c'mon, I bet a lot of you would actually get on with her in a one and one conversation. Let's not go as far as to say she's not a nice person, that's just unnecessary.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Name one housemate who hasn't been bitchy apart from Winston (and even he probably has, we just haven't seen it)...please :omg:

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the double standards are unreal.

The difference being they dont go on and on how honest and how they say it to peoples faces like Toya does.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

The difference being they dont go on and on how honest and how they say it to peoples faces like Toya does.

Oh please, Toya has said more to peoples faces than any of them :joker:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Oh please, Toya has said more to peoples faces than any of them :joker:

Yes again only because they confront her about the crap she has said about them behind their back

[Jemal]

I can swear shes only ever said it to Christopher face and that only because Christopher over heard her bitching about him in the same room :joker:

[Marc]

Name one housemate who hasn't been bitchy apart from Winston (and even he probably has, we just haven't seen it)...please :omg:

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the double standards are unreal.

You can't say I have double standards because I've not given any indication as to who my favourites are and why I like some housemates over the others. I just think Toya is so blatent with her bitching, just so she can slate somebody and causes a big scene for attention when she wants to say something to somebodies face. Oh she's so 'real' and 'sassy'.

She's going home soon so you should probably find another favourite to support

[lovebigbrotheruk]

I can swear shes only ever said it to Christopher face and that only because Christopher over heard her bitching about him in the same room :joker:

Oh c'mon Jemal. Stop flat out lying.

I had so much respect for you and you're losing it by the millisecond :notimpressed:

[lovebigbrotheruk]

You can't say I have double standards because I've not given any indication as to who my favourites are and why I like some housemates over the others. I just think Toya is so blatent with her bitching, just so she can slate somebody and causes a big scene for attention when she wants to say something to somebodies face. Oh she's so 'real' and 'sassy'.

She's going home soon so you should probably find another favourite to support

I know. I already have two favourites. Toya and Matthew.

[Samm]

Yes, People hate because they think she is a Bully if she was on BB last year more people would like her because the word Bully didn't get used

[Jemal]

Oh c'mon Jemal. Stop flat out lying.

I had so much respect for you and you're losing it by the millisecond :notimpressed:

I'm not lying lol, i can swear she was bitching about Christopher while he was on the other side of the room checking himself in the mirror lool. Then he overheard her and then he said something like 'toya if you have a problem with me just say it' or something along those lines, then they started bickering lol

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I'm not lying lol, i can swear she was bitching about Christopher while he was on the other side of the room checking himself in the mirror lool. Then he overheard her and then he said something like 'toya if you have a problem with me just say it' or something along those lines, then they started bickering lol

Yes this is what happened

[Josy]

Yes, People hate because they think she is a Bully if she was on BB last year more people would like her because the word Bully didn't get used

Plenty of people have posted very valid reason for disliking Toya and not one of them have used the word Bully

[Samm]

What's wrong with bitching housemates do it every year but people hate it now

[Mrjrb2014]

Im sorry but I dont believe this for a second, the only reason she confronted Marlon was because he confronted her. Toya is nothing but a coward and is all talk.

truth!!

[Josy]

Some people seem to confuse hate with disliking or negative opinions.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

What's wrong with bitching housemates do it every year but people hate it now

Seriously, we all bitch. It's human nature.

[Jemal]

Being a bitchy housemate then confronting them after is alright.

Then.. Being a bitchy housemate then claim that your honest and upfront like toya does is what sets her apart from other housemates in the past.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

I'm not lying lol, i can swear she was bitching about Christopher while he was on the other side of the room checking himself in the mirror lool. Then he overheard her and then he said something like 'toya if you have a problem with me just say it' or something along those lines, then they started bickering lol

Ok, let's just stay friends :smug:

[Samm]

Im sorry but I dont believe this for a second, the only reason she confronted Marlon was because he confronted her. Toya is nothing but a coward and is all talk.

Oh so now your calling the person who sleeps all day more confident then Toya, Toya started all of it she voiced her opinion and she's doesn't care what the public think of her she is no coward at all

[lovebigbrotheruk]

Being a bitchy housemate then confronting them after is alright.

Then.. Being a bitchy housemate then claim that your honest and upfront like toya does is what sets her apart from other housemates in the past.

You're starting to get it. Join the fanclub now, limited time only...literally :joker:

[lovebigbrotheruk]

Oh so now your calling the person who sleeps all day more confident then Toya, Toya started all of it she voiced her opinion and she's doesn't care what the public think of her she is no coward at all

I never thought of that. She is being her true self, whether people like it or not. That's the opposite of being a coward.

[Samm]

Being a bitchy housemate then confronting them after is alright.

Then.. Being a bitchy housemate then claim that your honest and upfront like toya does is what sets her apart from other housemates in the past.

She is up front, She was bitching about Matthew last weak she confronted him same with Christopher and now the same with Marlon

The person who bitches the most and doesn't up front people is ****ing Chris who bitches in the diary room and to other housemates outside of the diary room

[lovebigbrotheruk]

She also confronted Jale in the kitchen...she said she needs to tell Helen to her face.

[Jemal]

She is up front, She was bitching about Matthew last weak she confronted him same with Christopher and now the same with Marlon

The person who bitches the most and doesn't up front people is ****ing Chris who bitches in the diary room and to other housemates outside of the diary room

She didnt confront matthew..
Your mixing the definitions of confronting I think :shrug:.

She argued with matthew not confronted him.
She was in the same room as christipher and she was still bitchy until Christopher called her up on it, so she didnt confront Christopher and She didnt confront marlon because its marlon who questioned her first.

Toya hasn't confronted anyone, she still hasn't confronted Kim who shes so obvs jealous of lol.

[Samm]

She didnt confront matthew..
Your mixing the definitions of confronting I think :shrug:.

She argued with matthew not confronted him.
She was in the same room as christipher and she was still bitchy until Christopher called her up on it, so she didnt confront Christopher and She didnt confront marlon because its marlon who questioned her first.

Toya hasn't confronted anyone, she still has confronted Kim who shes so obvs jealous of lol.

Having a argument is the same as confronting imo

Why has suddenly everybody thinking she hates Kim she hasn't been talking about her for days

[minty3]

I don't hate her she just annoys me

[Tarryn]

She could have an argument in an empty room, never admits fault yet knows every other housemates faults.
So she brings most of the hate on herself.
But like Pauline she will never admit to doing any wrong, it's always others who are the bad one's.

[Sophiee]

not at all. I think some of it stems from the fact she is friends with pauline and helen though.

[Brother Leon]

Well deserved criticism for Toya.

[Pete.]

Yes, an incredible housemate shame others don't see it

[Lostie!]

Yes and no. I think a lot of the criticism aimed at her is justified, but I disagree with those who say she's a "bully". I think there has been some bullying in there, but not by her.

[Marsh.]

..she doesn't get hate, she gets criticism and yeah there is a lot to criticise from her behaviour in the house and the type of person she is in that she's only aware of herself and never seems to consider anyone else...

:clap1:

[Robodog]

No. She comes across as rude, arrogant, shouts AT people without listening to what they have to say and acts as though everyone's opinion is wrong apart from her own, she can never admit things even if she is in the wrong always preferring instead to say 'oh well we were both in the wrong then' and she does all this all the while covering it up as 'saying how it is'

Great post again Josy.

Perfectly explained.

[Black Dagger]

On Facebook definitely, people on there are saying they want to beat the **** out of her.

All she is, is a bit of a gobby cow.

[Marsh.]

Not in the slightest.