Who was in the right?

[Smithy]

Toya or Ash and his cronies?


(Obviously the only correct answer is toya)

[Samm]

Toya

[andybigbro]

Toya!

The boys reaction was pathetic

[MeMyselfAndI]

Toya 100%

They seem to think Toya nominated them, it was the house.. Even my mum thinks Toya was in the right & she HATEs her :laugh:

[smudgie]

More a question of who was more in the wrong.

[Will.]

Toya and Matthew 100%, they have to make these decisions.

[The_Big_Send_Off]

Queen toya.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Ash is just a bully that likes to namecall & bitch about 'lesser housemates', hes proved it on multiple occasions, first saying 'Don't vote for the wet flannels for power housemate' & now 'she should have nullified the boring ***** that would have voted for us' really :crazy:

[Josy]

Ash

Toya even admitted herself at the end of the first argument that he never done anything wrong :huh:

[TheElusiveChanteuse]

Toya, but the GP won't see that. Toya shouldn't have raised her voice so much either, she came off quite aggressive even though the things she was saying were on point.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Ash

Toya even admitted herself at the end of the first argument that he never done anything wrong :huh:

He has a massive superior complex? He seems to think Toya nominated him & saved Kimberly, Steven had to explain it to him multiple times..

[Ammi]

..no one but I think that Toya was less in the wrong...

[Black Dagger]

Toya by a mile.

Ash assumed things and then all 3 of them had the nerve to think they were above being nominated.

[Firewire]

Toya, absolutely

[MeMyselfAndI]

The poll speaks volumes tbh, and I disliked Toya more than Ash before this highlights show

[Adamw92]

Sorry but didn't people vote Toya as the Power HM to make level-headed and fair decisions? that's what she did, they have such a superiority complex that they can't get over that they don't like the result of a logical and fair decision she AND Matthew made.

Yes, Toya shouldn't have said "calm the **** down" like she did but she was in the right.

[Smithy]

Ash

Toya even admitted herself at the end of the first argument that he never done anything wrong :huh:

But ash was having a go at her, for them being up for eviction, all she did was remove their nominations which had 0 effect on them apart from Kimberly

What kind of overreaction :umm2:

[Josy]

He has a massive superior complex? He seems to think Toya nominated him & saved Kimberly, Steven had to explain it to him multiple times..

So what? that's nothing to do with the argument they had he never had a problem until she started shouting at them...

[reece(:]

Toya, Ash is a thick brute.

[Tom4784]

Toya. Ash, Winston and Steve are just throwing their toys out of the pram because being nominated hurts their egos. Hopefully this display will see Ash or Marlon leave on Friday. Winston was as much in the wrong as they were but I doubt we'll be able to shake that ape until the final.

[smeagol]

The correct asnwer is no one actually. though toya started it. doesn't matter cause there is no right only wrong from both sides.

ash is a twat and toya is nuttier thana snickers

[Brother Leon]

But ash was having a go at her, for them being up for eviction, all she did was remove their nominations which had 0 effect on them apart from Kimberly

What kind of overreaction :umm2:

Was he?

He simply asked what was going on. It was explained to him in a mature way by Steven and then Toya decided to go all dictatorship and start shouting the odds. She's unhinged.

[Will.]

team Toya all the way

[erinp5]

10.01pm: We're back in the garden and Toya and Marlon are having words. Again. #BBUKLive

[Cherie]

Ash was in the right for the "calm the **** down thing" , Toya was in the right for trying to break up the cliques though i think Mama P exiting the building might have helped her thinking

[MeMyselfAndI]

So what? that's nothing to do with the argument they had he never had a problem until she started shouting at them...

Of course it is, he seemed to believe he had no right to be nominated, which caused the argument as he got in a huff.

[erinp5]

The correct asnwer is no one actually. though toya started it. doesn't matter cause there is no right only wrong from both sides.

ash is a twat and toya is nuttier thana snickers

This

[Headie]

Funny thing is I would've said Ash and that lot until a bunch of grown male adults started calling a woman a bitch, prick and the c-word. That is absolutely unacceptable to call a woman that.

[Firewire]

Funny thing is I would've said Ash and that lot until a bunch of grown male adults started calling a woman a bitch, prick and the c-word. That is absolutely unacceptable to call a woman that.

They were so sexist towards her. Absolutely disgraceful.

[erinp5]

Steven is a big hit for himself. How dare he be put up when he offers so much
:hehe:

[Braden]

I don't think either were in the right, but the whole argument stemmed from the boys over-reaction to being nominated and being able to take out on Toya as a result of her temper.

[Josy]

Of course it is, he seemed to believe he had no right to be nominated, which caused the argument as he got in a huff.

He never understood the veto that's what he needed explaining.

Toya was in the wrong for starting the argument. The best thing is her reasons were decent but she caused a **** storm by speaking like that to the entire group, not just Ash.

[smeagol]

Funny thing is I would've said Ash and that lot until a bunch of grown male adults started calling a woman a bitch, prick and the c-word. That is absolutely unacceptable to call a woman that.

no its not. men and women are equal,

[Smithy]

Funny thing is I would've said Ash and that lot until a bunch of grown male adults started calling a woman a bitch, prick and the c-word. That is absolutely unacceptable to call a woman that.

what kind of sexism :umm2:

It's unacceptable to call anyone that

[smeagol]

Steven is a big hit for himself. How dare he be put up when he offers so much
:hehe:


lol he is hillarious. they are all so up themselves its scary.

[Jamesy]

Neither of them. They're both as bad as each other.

Ash for making a big deal out of nothing. You're not above everyone else dear... and Toya for exploding against everyone when they were trying to talk calmly. Her 'respect' and 'calm down' lines got a bit repetitive at the end.. expand your ability to argue love.

It was still hilarious nonetheless. These are the kind of arguments I like on Big Brother!

Wish BB would not call them to the diary room though. Housemates should only be called to the diary room if an argument gets physical or violent. Not just when someone is angry -_-

[Jords]

Ash wasnt right in any sense. Hes just pissed hes up for nomination and thinks hes above it. Toya's execution was terrible (however was pretty entertaining for once :laugh:) but her explanation was neither 'right' or 'wrong'. Somebody would have always disagreed.

I was more inclined to agree with Toya against Ash though, weirdly.

Winston though >>>>>

[MeMyselfAndI]

He never understood the veto that's what he needed explaining.

Toya was in the wrong for starting the argument. The best thing is her reasons were decent but she caused a **** storm by speaking like that to the entire group, not just Ash.

Okay whatever, I think you're wrong & are saying that because Ash is your fave [:crazy:]

[Josy]

Okay whatever, I think you're wrong & are saying that because Ash is your fave [:crazy:]

Think what you like, I gave a perfectly valid reason for my opinion though.

And people are completely overlooking the fact that Toya admitted herself right at the end of the first argument that Ash never done anything wrong.

[Ammi]

Ash wasnt right in any sense. Hes just pissed hes up for nomination and thinks hes above it. Toya's execution was terrible (however was pretty entertaining for once :laugh:) but her explanation was neither 'right' or 'wrong'. Somebody would have always disagreed.

I was more inclined to agree with Toya against Ash though, weirdly.

Winston though >>>>>
..great post Jords and the voice of reason as always...

[MeMyselfAndI]

Matthew came across the best by FAR.

[Gerbil901]

I don't think that Toya was wrong for picking Ash, Marlon, and Steven's votes to be vetoed they had to make a decision and to be honest I'm pretty sure anyone would be upset. But I think Toya escalated the situation when she said everyone needs to "Shut the F up" and she started to point at Winston and yell at him. If you look at his face he seemed shocked when she kicked off. When she quieted Matthew that also didn't make her look good at all. I think that Toya isn't good at communicating with people. If you talk to people in a hostile way you should expect that reaction. I don't really side with anyone to be honest. Except for my black man Marlon. Stay Black.

[Brother Leon]

He never understood the veto that's what he needed explaining.

Toya was in the wrong for starting the argument. The best thing is her reasons were decent but she caused a **** storm by speaking like that to the entire group, not just Ash.

This

Bloody hell he was even laughing with Toya when it was revealed his noms were vetoed.

[Josy]

This

Bloody hell he was even laughing with Toya when it was revealed his noms were vetoed.

Yeah I know, he bumped fists with her :laugh:

[MeMyselfAndI]

This

Bloody hell he was even laughing with Toya when it was revealed his noms were vetoed.

He was clearly being fake as seconds later 'you put us up' 'you nominated us' 'she basically ****ed her friends'

The dumb idiot didn't realise she didn't nominate any of them & the house nominated them, they were up regardless, the only change was Kimberly not being up :joker:

[Sophiee]

probably ash if I had to choose.

[Doogle]

Toya. She handled it badly but they ganged up on her when they didn't even understand the situation

[joe199998293]

I hate Toya after tonight. The boys did nothing wrong in my mind. Toya is the control freak. AND TOYA, EVERYONE IS PLAYING A FREAKING GAME, EVERYONE WANTS TO WIN.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Toya

[Mystic Mock]

While I feel that Toya doesn't put her point of view across very well I honestly don't get why Ash, Marlon, or Winston went the way they did? Are they so arrogant that they think that they could've beaten Kimberly?

Great episode though.

[Mystic Mock]

Matthew came across the best by FAR.

You mean for not defending himself and Toya? Yeah he was great.

[Me. I Am Salman]

toya, although she didn't execute her point well but from an entertainment perceptive it was brilliant