Anyone else think last night he showed his true personality?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Did anyone else change their opinion of Winston last night? I felt like I saw the real side of him, Toya was right she calculated exactly what would happen, whos true colours would come out by splitting up "the gang" which Ash had called his "crew" and had the audacity to say this like they were better than anyone else in there.

His dumb act seem to slip and Toya mocking it was hilarious "err im Winston du uh duh" HAHA.

Im probably in the minority who sees it but does anyone else think Winstons been putting on this fake act this whole time and it took him to be nominated to have a tantrum? He looked like he was holding back a lot aswell trying to save face.

[chuff me dizzy]

What personality ? hes one of the fakest hm8s ever

[Niamh.]

Yeah for sure, loved her choices so much, she really shook things up in there and it was much needed, great change to the way it usually goes in there, the popular kids out number the individuals and we're forced to evict them week after week. Pity it'll probably be Toya who goes though :(

[Miranda123]

Did anyone else change their opinion of Winston last night? I felt like I saw the real side of him, Toya was right she calculated exactly what would happen, whos true colours would come out by splitting up "the gang" which Ash had the audacity to say like they were better than anyone else in there.

His dumb act seem to slip and Toya mocking it was hilarious "err im Winston du uh duh" HAHA.

Im probably in the minority who sees it but does anyone else think Winstons been putting on this fake act this whole time and it took him to be nominated to have a tantrum? He looked like he was holding back a lot aswell trying to save face.

I didnt really have any opinion of him at all but seeing him put the bint back in her box has made him my No.1 fave!!

GET TOYA OUT!

[smudgie]

I have yet to see any personality belonging to Winston.:laugh:

[Verbal]

It changed my opinion of him...a bit. Was good to see him stick up for himself. But he is so thick and slow with comebacks.

When he talks, or when he's about to you can see the cogs of his brain firing up and your sat there looking at him waiting for what he's gonna say.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I have yet to see any personality belonging to Winston.:laugh:
I just thought he was a genuine nice guy.

He definitely is not.

[chuff me dizzy]

Why didnt anyone tell him to shut his childish mouth and grow up when he stood spinning lies to them the other day about the shark ? the spewing BS was bad enough but hes getting worse by the episode ,sick on nude women ? fighting sharks ? now sex in his sleep ? GROW UP little boy

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It changed my opinion of him...a bit. Was good to see him stick up for himself. But he is so thick and slow with comebacks.

When he talks, or when he's about to you can see the cogs of his brain firing up and your sat there looking at him waiting for what he's gonna say.

I think those cogs are him thinking *calm down Winston don't kick off you're up for eviction down blow your dumb character you created.

[Ammi]

..yeah it really was a 'true colour' argument and brought out a really interesting and not in a good way side to Ash/Winston and Marlon....

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Why didnt anyone tell him to shut his childish mouth and grow up when he stood spinning lies to them the other day about the shark ? the spewing BS was bad enough but hes getting worse by the episode ,sick on nude women ? fighting sharks ? now sex in his sleep ? GROW UP little boy

Thought he did actually have an incident with a shark he has a huge scar on his arm.

Hoping Toya can do a Gina and the public save her simply for being entertaining.

[Drew.]

I hate the saying "Did he/she show their real side"

He's been exactly the same guy throughout the two weeks, he's been calm and hes been having a good laugh in the house.. You can't class one moment where he's been annoyed/angry and got into an argument as someones real side.. that goes for the rest of the housemates too.

[Verbal]

I think those cogs are him thinking *calm down Winston don't kick off you're up for eviction down blow your dumb character you created.

I don't get the impression that there is an aggressive bone in his body, let alone against women.

I hate the attitude where people say 'you can't talk like that to a woman'. Well, sorry, if she's mouthing off at me she's gonna get a mouthful back.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I don't get the impression that there is an aggressive bone in his body, let alone against women.

I hate the attitude where people say 'you can't talk like that to a woman'. Well, sorry, if she's mouthing off at me she's gonna get a mouthful back.

Who said he was aggressive or anything about his actions towards women?

That's not what the threads about please don't bring the annoying sexism, aggression talk we get every year into this thread its going to take it into a sexism debate which this is not about.

Its just about him showing a different side and not him being aggressive or the fact his argument was with a woman.

Please, please lets not go down that route.

[chuff me dizzy]

Thought he did actually have an incident with a shark he has a huge scar on his arm.

Hoping Toya can do a Gina and the public save her simply for being entertaining.

Load of bollox if you ask me ,as if it was done by a shark ? hes not wrapped up right lying swine him

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Load of bollox if you ask me ,as if it was done by a shark ? hes not wrapped up right lying swine him

It does look like it though, have you seen it its looks like his arm was sown back on lol its a very big scar looks like a shark bite to me.

[Verbal]

Who said he was aggressive or anything about his actions towards women?

That's not what the threads about please don't bring the annoying sexism, aggression talk we get every year into this thread its going to take it into a sexism debate which this is not about.

Its just about him showing a different side and not him being aggressive or the fact his argument was with a woman.

Please, please lets not go down that route.

I thought this was about him arguing with Toya, and Danielle saying 'you can't talk to a woman like that'

Whatever, carry on

[Josy]

I don't get how retaliating to someone shouting at you makes you a bad person. Must just be me though.

[00Jamie00]

He stood up for himself

[Me. I Am Salman]

i didn't really see a different side him, he was his usual boring irrelevant self. I do think he's a nice person

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I don't get how retaliating to someone shouting at you makes you a bad person. Must just be me though.

No ones saying hes bad person.

Just acknowledging his mannerisms, I felt he was about to blow but stopped himself to save face seeing as nominations are coming up. It was very calculated and he almost showed a very bad side to him.

Im telling you his character hes created will slip soon, its going to be hard to keep up this dumb act for 70 odd days.

I thought he was a stock broker btw? Surely that involves having some intelligence.

[Vicky.]

Yes, I think the cheeky chappie mask slipped for a while. I know everyone gets angry, but just the way he changed to being quite aggressive (words wise) and stuff kinda says to me that thats how he usually is :shrug:

[Josy]

No ones saying hes bad person.

Just acknowledging his mannerisms, I felt he was about to blow but stopped himself to save face seeing as nominations are coming up. It was very calculated and he almost showed a very bad side to him.

Im telling you his character hes created will slip soon, its going to be hard to keep up this dumb act for 70 odd days.

I thought he was a stock broker btw? Surely that involves having some intelligence.

Daniel you said above,

I just thought he was a genuine nice guy.

He definitely is not

Wouldn't that be the same thing?

I don't even like Winston but just cant work out how him retaliating to Toya makes him 'not a nice person'

I actually think he came across pretty nervous during it all.

[chuff me dizzy]

It does look like it though, have you seen it its looks like his arm was sown back on lol its a very big scar looks like a shark bite to me.

Every chance he fell of his bike as a kid .....you dont honestly think he got a shark in a headlock and punched it in face ? :conf:

[Josy]

Every chance he fell of his bike as a kid .....you dont honestly think he got a shark in a headlock and punched it in face ? :conf:

I thought that was an obvious joke :huh:

[Ammi]

I hate the saying "Did he/she show their real side"

He's been exactly the same guy throughout the two weeks, he's been calm and hes been having a good laugh in the house.. You can't class one moment where he's been annoyed/angry and got into an argument as someones real side.. that goes for the rest of the housemates too.


..I think for me though it's more that Toya was just being exactly how she has also been from the start and I also have found her very annoying, who wouldn't if they had to live with her..?..so the argument was less about his reaction to her and more about his reaction to being up for eviction which was the telling part and the same as the rest of 'the gang of untouchables'...

[Brother Leon]

He showed that if someone goes on a mad one towards him he will put them back in place. If that's showing his real personality then so be it lol

[chuff me dizzy]

I thought that was an obvious joke :huh:

A bare faced lie more like !! along with the being sick on a womans Mucky Mary and sex in his sleep BS ,compulsive liar if you ask me

[Josy]

A bare faced lie more like !! along with the being sick on a woman Mucky Mary and sex in his sleep BS ,compulsive liar if you ask me

Fair enough. I am pretty sure he was joking with Danielle and whoever else it was he was talking to.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Daniel you said above,



Wouldn't that be the same thing?

I don't even like Winston but just cant work out how him retaliating to Toya makes him 'not a nice person'

I actually think he came across pretty nervous during it all.

I said he almost showed a bad side to himself so I didn't say he was a bad person did I I don't see the point of quoting that.

And me saying I don't think he is a nice person I didn't outright say that.

Im just pointing out he has a totally different side to him which isn't this whole dumb, mr nice guy persona and he may not be genuine.

Not going to lie it does do my head in when people misunderstand my posts and then quote something to "prove me wrong" which doesn't do that in the slightest.

I and others in this thread felt like there was something there that showed a different side to him which was itching to come out, I wouldn't call his behaviour nervousness I would say it was more of him trying to reel himself in and not to blow up and destroy the dumb Winston act.

[Seanbon]

I don't get the impression that there is an aggressive bone in his body, let alone against women.

I hate the attitude where people say 'you can't talk like that to a woman'. Well, sorry, if she's mouthing off at me she's gonna get a mouthful back.

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

[Josy]

I said he almost showed a bad side to himself so I didn't say he was a bad person did I. I don't see the point of quoting that.

And me saying I don't think he is a nice person does not make him a bad person either im just pointing out he has a totally different side to him which isn't this whole dumb, mr nice guy persona.

Not going to lie it does do my head in when people misunderstand my posts and then quote something to "prove me wrong" which doesn't do that in the slightest.

I and others in this thread felt like there was something there that showed a different side to him which was itching to come out, I wouldn't call his behaviour nervousness I would say it was more of him trying to reel himself in and not to blow up and destroy the dumb Winston act.

I never quoted your comment to prove you wrong, that's why I asked after the quote isn't that the same thing :shrug:

Anyway he acted in the way I would have expected him to going by his character since entering the house, he never exactly turned into Einstein during the argument either he was still struggling for words and looked nervous IMO.

[Malachi]

No Toya would test the patience of a saint. It was about time someone put her in her place. She's the biggest bully in the house. The way she mocked Winston shows how pathetic and childish she is. She then played the 'men never talk to me that way' and yet she has a YouTube blog running men down...hypocrite!

[Seanbon]

I don't get how retaliating to someone shouting at you makes you a bad person. Must just be me though.

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

[chuff me dizzy]

Fair enough. I am pretty sure he was joking with Danielle and whoever else it was he was talking to.

He was deadly serious and they were hook,line sinker Daniel on here believed him too

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I never quoted your comment to prove you wrong, that's why I asked after the quote isn't that the same thing :shrug:

Anyway he acted in the way I would have expected him to going by his character since entering the house, he never exactly turned into Einstein during the argument either he was still struggling for words and looked nervous IMO.

Your post was aimed at me calling him a bad person when I didn't. You accused me of calling him a bad person when I was just speculating if there was a side to him which wasn't this nicey nicey guy hes been potraying.

He thought he was as safe as houses as did the rest of the house and I think thts why he acted like that, he really didn't take being nominated very well.

Sour grapes.

[Seanbon]

No ones saying hes bad person.

Just acknowledging his mannerisms, I felt he was about to blow but stopped himself to save face seeing as nominations are coming up. It was very calculated and he almost showed a very bad side to him.

Im telling you his character hes created will slip soon, its going to be hard to keep up this dumb act for 70 odd days.

I thought he was a stock broker btw? Surely that involves having some intelligence.

Surely being able to control yourself when someone is goading you,is a good quality to have,whatever the motive?!?:conf:

[Drew.]

..I think for me though it's more that Toya was just being exactly how she has also been from the start and I also have found her very annoying, who wouldn't if they had to live with her..?..so the argument was less about his reaction to her and more about his reaction to being up for eviction which was the telling part and the same as the rest of 'the gang of untouchables'...

He seemed like he was influenced by his friends speaking up and used that as a way to join in and let his frustration out which to me comes across as someone who isn't brave enough to take on someone by himself and maybe isn't used to it. He comes across immature and pretty stupid but we all knew that before last night. All i learnt from him last nights episode is that he panics during confrontations and uses insulting words as his way to get to someone rather than personal insults by the way they act or something they've done in the past.

I wouldn't class myself as a fan of him at all.. But the guy had no idea what to say during the argument. He doesn't strike me as someone who sits there and listens to other peoples conversations whilst building up his own views and opinions on housemates. Toya thrives of that, she knew exactly what to say during the argument, she has bad things to say about people already stored up just waiting to come out. Winston is definitely misunderstood in there.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No Toya would test the patience of a saint. It was about time someone put her in her place. She's the biggest bully in the house. The way she mocked Winston shows how pathetic and childish she is. She then played the 'men never talk to me that way' and yet she has a YouTube blog running men down...hypocrite!

HAHA I was pissing myself at Toya mocking him.

Lets be honest how the hell is this guy a stock broker? Is it all a lie?

[00Jamie00]

He's not a stock broker, Danielle was talking to him about her wanting to have a career in which is mainly dominated by men, therefore the Stock Broker thing came up which Winston agreed was mainly dominated by men in the workplace

[chuff me dizzy]

Fair enough. I am pretty sure he was joking with Danielle and whoever else it was he was talking to.

Hes not joking,theres no way a shark would have left a 4" scar ,it would have ripped his arm clean off .......... http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-15-shark-vs-winston ......all the stupid King Foo noises and hand thumping ffs :bored:

[Josy]

Your post was aimed at me calling him a bad person when I didn't. You accused me of calling him a bad person when I was just speculating if there was a side to him which wasn't this nicey nicey guy hes been potraying.

He thought he was as safe as houses as did the rest of the house and I think thts why he acted like that, he really didn't take being nominated very well.

Sour grapes.

My first post wasn't even aimed at anyone?

I quoted your comment in my second post because you replied directly to me and I thought you meant something different when you previously posted in the thread, that's why there was a question after it.

I already posted what I thought in relation to the thread topic..but yeah I disagree with the original thread question and think he came across as I would have expected him to going by the way he's been in the house over the past couple of weeks.

[Josy]

Hes not joking,theres no way a shark would have left a 4" scar ,it would have ripped his arm clean off .......... http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-15-shark-vs-winston ......all the stupid King Foo noises and hand thumping ffs :bored:

I thought he was actually joking about the whole thing, I'm actually surprised that anyone took it as him being serious? but that's not the point of this thread so I will leave it there.

[Ammi]

He seemed like he was influenced by his friends speaking up and used that as a way to join in and let his frustration out which to me comes across as someone who isn't brave enough to take on someone by himself and maybe isn't used to it. He comes across immature and pretty stupid but we all knew that before last night. All i learnt from him last nights episode is that he panics during confrontations and uses insulting words as his way to get to someone rather than personal insults by the way they act or something they've done in the past.

I wouldn't class myself as a fan of him at all.. But the guy had no idea what to say during the argument. He doesn't strike me as someone who sits there and listens to other peoples conversations whilst building up his own views and opinions on housemates. Toya thrives of that, she knew exactly what to say during the argument, she has bad things to say about people already stored up just waiting to come out. Winston is definitely misunderstood in there.

...hmm, with Toya..?..credit to her though that she did hold her own against all three of them because no one else really said much or got involved, even Helen who is often quite outspoken and although just by being the Power Housemate and having to make those decisions would have meant that in a way yeah, she would have been 'ready' for confrontations more/more prepared etc..?..I don't think that she would have foreseen all three of them reacting like that so I don't think she would have known exactly what to say but was also herself in a reaction and quite defensive situation...I know she has her flaws and how that must frustrate anyone around her and maybe cause them to lose their temper etc...especially as they just realised they were up for eviction but I still also think that it's how housemates react to these things that is a large part of the show and our 'judgement' of them and to me the insults from all of them was pretty telling of their characters...I think you're right in that to react in anger or annoyance would be quite 'normal' but thyen it's how you are with that anger..the things you say etc and 'how low you go..'....

[Vicky.]

Depending on the size of the shark, it could leave a small scar?

MY sisters partner was ran over when he was younger and has a huge scar on his leg that really does look like a massive shark bite and everyone believes him that thats what it is too. Bit offtopic but true :laugh:

[chuff me dizzy]

HAHA I was pissing myself at Toya mocking him.

Lets be honest how the hell is this guy a stock broker? Is it all a lie?

Every chance, everything else that comes out of his mouth is a blatant lie ,so every chance this is

[daniel-lewis-1985]

He's not a stock broker, Danielle was talking to him about her wanting to have a career in which is mainly dominated by men, therefore the Stock Broker thing came up which Winston agreed was mainly dominated by men in the workplace

I thought that's what he said in his vt?

I must have got it wrong :/

[00Jamie00]

I thought he was actually joking about the whole thing, I'm actually surprised that anyone took it as him being serious? but that's not the point of this thread so I will leave it there.

He was joking Josy, it's just a story to make his scar more interesting, loads of people do it.

Like if you had a scar on your head, you could say "I was kicked in the head by a horse" when really a can of beans fell out the cupboard and hit you on the head

[TheElusiveChanteuse]

To be honest all he proved to me last night is that him having the IQ of a plant isn't an act.

[Ammi]

He was joking Josy, it's just a story to make his scar more interesting, loads of people do it.

Like if you had a scar on your head, you could say "I was kicked in the head by a horse" when really a can of beans fell out the cupboard and hit you on the head

..no I really was kicked in the head by a horse..:hmph:..in fact it was an escaped rhinoceros....

[daniel-lewis-1985]

He was joking Josy, it's just a story to make his scar more interesting, loads of people do it.

Like if you had a scar on your head, you could say "I was kicked in the head by a horse" when really a can of beans fell out the cupboard and hit you on the head

How do you know he was joking?

Has he openly said it was a joke?

[LukeB]

he genuine he was sticking up for himself because toya was shouting at him.

[Drew.]

...hmm, with Toya..?..credit to her though that she did hold her own against all three of them because no one else really said much or got involved, even Helen who is often quite outspoken and although just by being the Power Housemate and having to make those decisions would have meant that in a way yeah, she would have been 'ready' for confrontations more/more prepared etc..?..I don't think that she would have foreseen all three of them reacting like that so I don't think she would have known exactly what to say but was also herself in a reaction and quite defensive situation...I know she has her flaws and how that must frustrate anyone around her and maybe cause them to lose their temper etc...especially as they just realised they were up for eviction but I still also think that it's how housemates react to these things that is a large part of the show and our 'judgement' of them and to me the insults from all of them was pretty telling of their characters...I think you're right in that to react in anger or annoyance would be quite 'normal' but thyen it's how you are with that anger..the things you say etc and 'how low you go..'....

Yeah, nobody could have expected all 3 of them to suddenly pipe up and have a go at her so she wouldn't have been prepared.. but she thrives of bitching, she sits there and talks about housemates a lot & thinks about them regularly.. she has very strong opinions on every housemate which then comes as a strength to her when arguments do finally come around. I think Winston is the complete opposite, he's a bit of a wuss and his only arguments towards her were "do one" and "**** off".. if i was on the end of an argument i'd rather be told to do one than have someone insult me or embarrass me in front of everyone like Toya did. Neither came away from the argument well in my opinion, i just think hes very misunderstood at this stage.. if he continues to start bickering, arguing and bitching from now on then that will definitely be classed as showing his true personality and real side, but from one very weak argument it's harsh to put that kind of label on someone.

[00Jamie00]

How do you know he was joking?

Has he openly said it was a joke?

Do you believe him?

[Ammi]

Yeah, nobody could have expected all 3 of them to suddenly pipe up and have a go at her so she wouldn't have been prepared.. but she thrives of bitching, she sits there and talks about housemates a lot & thinks about them regularly.. she has very strong opinions on every housemate which then comes as a strength to her when arguments do finally come around. I think Winston is the complete opposite, he's a bit of a wuss and his only arguments towards her were "do one" and "**** off".. if i was on the end of an argument i'd rather be told to do one than have someone insult me or embarrass me in front of everyone like Toya did. Neither came away from the argument well in my opinion, i just think hes very misunderstood at this stage.. if he continues to start bickering, arguing and bitching from now on then that will definitely be classed as showing his true personality and real side, but from one very weak argument it's harsh to put that kind of label on someone.

..yeah but as Toya said in the chat with Helen, they all bitch..bitching just relieves some of the boredon and confinement in the house I guess so I also wouldn't really label Toya for being bitchy but more for her behaviour toward other people and I know that isn't great at all with her communication but I don't see her as being a 'nasty' person at all...and I agree that no one came away from the argument 'looking good' as such, it was more who looked the worst or the most in the wrong and for me it was the guys because Toya was just being how she always was and so maybe there was no surprises there but the guys had previously looked ok and a reasonable 'gang' but the whole situation of being up for eviction and how they took it and how they spoke to her wasn't great at all....I haven't put a 'label' on him by the way or any of them..I've just changed my opinion of them or maybe I should say that I've finally got an opinion which I hadn't really before...

[Sophiee]

it wasn't his 'true colours' it was just another side to him that we hadn't yet seen. it has only been 2 weeks after all.

[aman201]

Yeah, I saw a change in him.

But for the better.

Not afraid to stand up for himself and put someone in his place.

[Johnnyuk123]

The scar on his arm is a friction burn from masterbating.

[Marsh.]

"True personality"? Not this again.

Most people are three dimensional, they have different moods and sides to them. Shocking I know.