Which year is nastier?

[Jake.]

BB13 or BB: Power Trip?

[Daniel.]

Both the same tbh

Probably 13.

[Jordan.]

this year by far

[reece(:]

This one, BB13 only had a few antagonists.

[Samm]

This one

[Sophiee]

this series for sure. bb13 had some of the most inoffensive housemates.

[smeagol]

13 by a long way. people must forget. this just has 2 evil people get rid of them its a normal show, one down one to go

[Shaun]

In terms of particularly venomous characters, or people often shown bitching and professing their "hate"...

BB13: Caroline, Chris, Arron, Conor, Shievonne, Ashleigh, Becky, Luke A
BB15: Helen, Ash, Danielle, Ashleigh, Marlon, Toya, Matthew, Pauline

It's about even but Helen's worth twelve Carolines so BB15 wins.

[Jords]

I think BB13 and BB14 are about equal regarding 'nasty'. Both also have a stand-out bastard too... BB13 Conor and BB14 Helen... funny how they both received a massive reward in their series too (£50K and a Final Pass).

[Josy]

This year

[Shaun]

BB14 was the Dexter/Gina year Jords :p (dw, I want to forget it too)

[Jords]

haha oh yeah I forget what series were on, BB15 (actually had to google the BB13 cast to rememeber all the HMs)

[Me. I Am Salman]

idk, you can tell this house has a nasty vibe but it's not uncomfortable to watch like BB13

[Daniel.]

Idg why so many votes for this series?

This lot have fun as shown last night..the BB13 divide was so bad they never spoke to each other apart from to argue.

This year is tame on comparison tbh..

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

BB13 :flutter:

idc about nasty it just slayed

[Doogle]

BB13. Caroline was really horrible and the stuff Conor said was appalling. Even the most dull housemate (Luke A) made a fat joke

[HBB1508]

Power trip no doubt for me.

[Me. I Am Salman]

some good points made on DS

Conor, by a mile. He only picked on one quiet, placid, unassuming girl - Helen spreads her drunken hate and venom around a bit.

Conor obviously

His hatred for Deana was really vicious. I mean it wasn't a petty thing, e was determined to make her feel miserable and really picked on her with a group of followers behind him. An all for no reason as well.

Helen is just a nasty common chav, and I think she's a bit more human than Connor. At least she's said sorry on the odd occasion and looked to see what she was doing wrong. Conor bullied Deana for no reason and made her feel horrible and never even thought about apologising.

this is pretty much why I'm not hating on Helen.

[Jordan.]

some good points made on DS





this is pretty much why I'm not hating on Helen.

I literally can't with some of the stupid things you post. Not hating on Helen because a bunch of middle aged women on DS think Conor was worse :huh:

[Brother Leon]

13. Deana is worse than 20 Helens. Poor Conor having to deal with her.

[Lostie!]

a bunch of middle aged women on DS

What a bizarre assumption.

[Kizzy]

every year the ingroup is brutal... grace, conor, maxwell, jason and victor, same shiz different year.

[Me. I Am Salman]

I literally can't with some of the stupid things you post. Not hating on Helen because a bunch of middle aged women on DS think Conor was worse :huh:

how is it not true? and no I'm agreeing with them and trying to say it's a good summary of how I feel. that's different.

[aman201]

Bb13 by far.

I think people have just forgotten.

There was genuine hate that year between people, there isn't as much in this one.

[Mystic Mock]

BB13:
1. Conor threatening to rape Deana
2. Conor slapping Scott
3. Caroline wishing for Lauren to die
4. Becky eating all of Crimson Chris's food and starving him for a whole week
5. Caroline calling Adam a Gorilla
6. Caroline calling Luke A Mrs
7. Ashleigh insulting Lauren's looks
8. Luke A saying that Becky should respect her BMI
9. Caroline sabotaging the shopping list

BB15:
1. Helen calling Danielle a fat bitch
2. Helen saying that Danielle should stop shagging Jesus
3. Jale saying that Chris was holding her hostage
4. Chris calling Christopher thick
5. Helen calling Jale “Slugsworth”
6. Matthew calling Marlon fat
7. Marlon calling Toya a ****
8. Ash saying that Jale should put some of the water back in the pool
9. Toya threatening to knock Jale out
10. Helen calling Matthew skinny
11. Matthew calling Helen a Chav and unintelligent

Even though BB15 has already gone out in front of BB13 in how many noticeable nasty moments there has been in the series, I really did feel there was more sociopaths in BB13 and the comments was much more severe than in this series.

[Mystic Mock]

I literally can't with some of the stupid things you post. Not hating on Helen because a bunch of middle aged women on DS think Conor was worse :huh:

Conor was worse than anyone in this series, how you can attack DS or Salman for having an opinion that everyone should have is beyond me.

[Natalie.]

I'm not sure really, I think bb13 because I stopped watching that and I haven't with this

[Jordan.]

how is it not true? and no I'm agreeing with them and trying to say it's a good summary of how I feel. that's different.

Helen is nasty in her own right. Liking her just because you don't think she is as bad as Conor is just bizarre.

Conor was worse than anyone in this series, how you can attack DS or Salman for having an opinion that everyone should have is beyond me.

Well now you're attacking me for having my opinion... :unsure: no one should have to have the same opinion at all.

[Robodog]

BB13 for the reasons given across this post.

This year is less personal, more general fireworks exploding in all directions. Plus they do all sit together and talk most days/evenings. That just didn't happen in BB13.

Worst element in any BB series ever was Conor towards Deana. i still shudder to think of it. How he walked off with 50k is the worst result possible. I'm still angry about it !

[Lostie!]

2. Conor slapping Scott

When was this?

[Me. I Am Salman]

Helen is nasty in her own right. Liking her just because you don't think she is as bad as Conor is just bizarre.

wtf when did I even say that :conf: I was just trying to imply there's no double standards on my part

Helen's behaviour is the kind I find entertaining. Conor's behaviour is the type I don't because it's just too extreme and uncomfortable to watch. why is that so hard to understand

[Jordan.]

Considering Helen can just be as nasty as Conor with her name calling and aggression it kinda is hard to understand and comes across as double standards soz

[Jack_]

I agree with those points made about Helen being able to step back and feel remorseful about her actions, she can be really nasty and vicious but there's been a few occasions where she's shown she can be sorry and treat people better than she has been (Jale during that shopping task, Danielle the other night). She just seems to go back to her old behaviour when she's had a drink

I don't think she's an awful person, just has some nasty traits that seem to emerge when she's drunk

[Me. I Am Salman]

Considering Helen can just be as nasty as Conor with her name calling and aggression it kinda is hard to understand and comes across as double standards soz

nope
please refer to the posts from DS I shared.

[Jordan.]

Yeah and what is that supposed to prove? Conor picked out and abused a weaker person exactly like Helen does in the house :unsure:

[Jordan.]

If she was male you'd hate her, fact.

[Me. I Am Salman]

If she was male you'd hate her, fact.

stop

that's not a fact at all. I made a thread yesterday supporting Ash?? and I made a huge post the other day when accused of double standards. please go find it.

Conor was a one of a kind unique bully and it was blatant racism too (another topic I made a huge post about, go find and read it before you try to dispute me on that). He is nothing like Helen. Helen's just a massive bitch.

Anyway I cba arguing with someone who went from loving a housemate to hating them and accusing them of bullying simply because they told other housemates what they heard over a wall. Of course you could never understand why I support Helen.

[Jordan.]

But why are you even comparing her to Conor anyway, just looks like you're trying to find a desperate reason to support your liking for a housemate who is clearly hated by comparing her to someone even more hated & lol if you're talking the Jale thing up again. I never called her a bully (wtf) and never went from liking her to hating her I just didn't agree with her argument so was on Chris's side in that scenario. Unlike you I can admit wrong in the people I support :)

[Me. I Am Salman]

But why are you even comparing her to Conor anyway, just looks like you're trying to find a desperate reason to support your liking for a housemate who is clearly hated by comparing her to someone even more hated & lol if you're talking the Jale thing up again. I never called her a bully (wtf) and never went from liking her to hating her I just didn't agree with her argument so was on Chris's side in that scenario. Unlike you I can admit wrong in the people I support :)

Just incase anyone accuses me of double standards.
I can admit the wrong, I just don't immediately want them out when they slip up like everyone else seems to do.

[aman201]

Insiders vs Outsiders actually meant something.

It was two groups who had genuine nasty hate for each other, it was two groups who couldn't stand congregating on any given night.

This year doesn't have that all.

This thread gives a disservice to the factions of BB 2012.

[Time]

The fact that I don't remember that many occasions where there was nastiness in BB13 confirms it that this one is more intense for me.

[aman201]

The fact that I don't remember that many occasions where there was nastiness in BB13 confirms it that this one is more intense for me.

Well, your abysmal memory is your problem.

[Achilles]

I stopped watching BB13 in week 3 or 4 and didn't watch any BB show since until the launch of this series. The last series I watched from launch to final was BB9. BB11 I watched from launch to final week but didn't watch final few days after it was rigged. I am hoping I make it through this whole series from launch to final. So far so good and watched every episode and every single clip off website. This house is TAME compared to other series.

[drantb]

BB13 was still being produced abysmally so I never watched it.

I wish it had been on Channel 4 as it sounds as if it was quite a good one in retrospect. I'd say BB6/7 rival this one though. 6 was full of bitching and egotism while 7 had producers put in a quite clearly mentally fragile man, only for him to be bullied by the rest of his housemates. It was captivating to watch but utterly nasty - and then some of those bullies went on to be beloved housemates of the series.

[Scotty07]

Insiders vs Outsiders actually meant something.

It was two groups who had genuine nasty hate for each other, it was two groups who couldn't stand congregating on any given night.

This year doesn't have that all.

This thread gives a disservice to the factions of BB 2012.

Yes BB15 has had bitching and arguments but wouldn't say it's been that nasty. BB13 was much nastier from what I remember (although I can imagine Helen would've been even worse in the company of the insiders).

I've recently started watching it for the first time since it originally aired and already loving it again after only the first three days (Victoria's eviction and Becky's arrival). Definitely my second favourite series of all time.:lovedup:

[aman201]

Yes BB15 has had bitching and arguments but wouldn't say it's been that nasty. BB13 was much nastier from what I remember (although I can imagine Helen would've been even worse in the company of the insiders).

I've recently started watching it for the first time since it originally aired and already loving it again after only the first three days (Victoria's eviction and Becky's arrival). Definitely my second favourite series of all time.:lovedup:

It was such an engrossing series. :thumbs:

[Moosething]

BB13 was more personal

[Toxic]

Bb13 by far.

I think people have just forgotten.

There was genuine hate that year between people, there isn't as much in this one.

This.

I think people must have forgotten just how bad that house was, it's the worst I've ever seen and this year is nowhere near that.

[Lostie!]

I disagree with those saying that BB15 doesn't have the genuine "hate" between certain housemates, I think it certainly does. That said, I think BB13 was nastier.

[billy123]

I voted this years but it is bitchy to the point of being nauseating.
It has certainly proved that bitchy doesnt equal entertaining.

[Marsh.]

Helen is nasty in her own right. Liking her just because you don't think she is as bad as Conor is just bizarre.

Exactly. Why can't housemates be judged in their own right? :confused:

It's like saying "I quite like Jimmy Saville, at least he wasn't Harold Shipman". :crazy:

[Razor]

Ain't got a clue

[Lwize]

Caroline was (is?) a monster. She showed no remorse for her actions.

[karezza]

Equal:

BB13 had evil Conor
BB15 has evil Ashleigh.