I actually like Ash?

[Me. I Am Salman]

He's contributing to the tensions and divisions in the house right now. He's a great baddie along with Helen. Surely Winston should be the one leaving.

I know it's a two horse race though so were all better off voting Ash. It's a shame though :/

[Josy]

He has been at the centre of the drama all week but still gets labelled a bore.

[ruiphillips]

He's an awful prick, calling Jale a maggot.

[Samm]

bye Salmonhttp://i.imgur.com/IHw5YNu.jpg

[Vicky.]

Would much rather Winston left but its never going to happen

Ash is finally doing something, although he is a twat..but it will be quite satisfying if he leaves on friday purely because I dont think hes expecting it at all..think we might possibly have a Sezer moment

[Doogle]

Even when he's bringing drama he's so goddamn annoying I just want him gone, just like Pauline

[ImBatman]

He is a vile excuse of a man! Bet he has more oestrogen the all the women in that house put together!

[reece(:]

He has been at the centre of the drama all week but still gets labelled a bore.
He bores me, I don't find his arselicking and comments entertaining at all.

[Jordan.]

:umm2: There's nothing likeable about him at all

[Me. I Am Salman]

He has been at the centre of the drama all week but still gets labelled a bore.

Me proving yet again I'm one of the real few who actually value housemates on the entertainment they bring and not being guilty of any double standards whatsoever.

[Shaun]

inb4 jack's super-observant post about how it's a shame we have to evict ash instead of someone truly truly boring like winston even though no one in their right mind would ever think that was a possibility in vote to save OR vote to evict...

[Kazanne]

Ash has just apologised to Jale,they are fine now,I guess we all say stuff in the heat of the moment(well most of us)

[andybigbro]

I dislike him so much.


He needs to be evicted.

[Saph]

https://31.media.tumblr.com/726d33eec50b785c138aca7cbfb04408/tumblr_inline_mpfdf8phRQ1qz4rgp.gif

[reece(:]

Ash has just apologised to Jale,they are fine now,I guess we all say stuff in the heat of the moment(well most of us)
Must have been a long moment if it took him a day to apologise....

[Marsh.]

bye Salmonhttp://i.imgur.com/IHw5YNu.jpg

:joker:

[Jordan.]

I'm so done with people who can't just have an honest opinion on housemates everything has to be from an entertainment perspective

[Me. I Am Salman]

inb4 jack's super-observant post about how it's a shame we have to evict ash instead of someone truly truly boring like winston even though no one in their right mind would ever think that was a possibility in vote to save OR vote to evict...

I can't wait tbh, he's most wise.

[Northern Monkey]

He sickens me abit how he's so far up Helens arse.He needs hos own opinions.

[Jake.]

k well you go join Miranda and Jemal and never come back.

[Jemal]

Salman you made a great point until you mentioned winston.
What a shame.
So much promise.

[smeagol]

ironically he is doing more than toya at the moment.

i want the house shocked so ash going will do that perfectly. and create massive trouble for the good of the show,

but really marlon should go as he wouldn't missed, he is a hanger on. even around the guys they tolerate him he is the odd one out

[Benjamin]

He has been at the centre of the drama all week but still gets labelled a bore.

He was a bore but has stepped up, and if it was between him and Winston then Ash should stay; however unfortunately it between him and Toya so he has to go.

I would all be for Winston going though, the dumb ape.

[Josy]

He bores me, I don't find his arselicking and comments entertaining at all.

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

Yet when anyone says that about other housemates ie Toya or Pauline when she was there they get shouted down for wanting out the 'entertainment'

[Marsh.]

Me proving yet again I'm one of the real few who actually value housemates on the entertainment they bring and not being guilty of any double standards whatsoever.

:clap1:

Well done Sal. They need more than a weave and a cliche catchphrase for you.

You go sista.

[Me. I Am Salman]

:clap1:

Well done Sal. They need more than a weave and a cliche catchphrase for you.

You go sista.

thanks sis

[Jemal]

k well you go join Miranda and Jemal and never come back.

LOL you take me too seriously. Honestly.

[Marsh.]

I'm so done with people who can't just have an honest opinion on housemates everything has to be from an entertainment perspective

:clap1:

I'd love you if Charley wasn't gyrating in your sig. :umm2:

[Kazanne]

Must have been a long moment if it took him a day to apologise....

I don't know how long it took him ,it was on bbbots,as I said he apologised

[ImBatman]

I'm so done with people who can't just have an honest opinion on housemates everything has to be from an entertainment perspective

Well that is because IT IS a Reality/Game/Entertainment show!

http://www.gifwave.com/media/412937/real-housewives-realitytvgifs-bravo-ratchet-wendy-williams.gif

[reece(:]

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

Yet when anyone says that about other housemates ie Toya or Pauline when she was there they get shouted down for wanting out the 'entertainment'
Toya's arguing and meltdowns is trainwrecky and good entertainment though, there's no comparison between the two whatsoever :shrug:

[Jake.]

LOL you take me too seriously. Honestly.

Or perhaps you take me too seriously? :smug:

[Marsh.]

Kazanne those eyes scare me when I'm browsing on my iPad in the dark.

Is it God? :worry:

[Jemal]

I'm so done with people who can't just have an honest opinion on housemates everything has to be from an entertainment perspective

Tbh this is another reason why i voted you in the tibb noms.
:clap1:

[Marsh.]

Toya's arguing and meltdowns is trainwrecky and good entertainment though, there's no comparison between the two whatsoever :shrug:

She's not done anything for two days.

Boring bitch. :smug:

[Macie Lightfoot]

He's contributing to the tensions and divisions in the house right now. He's a great baddie along with Helen. Surely Winston should be the one leaving.

I know it's a two horse race though so were all better off voting Ash. It's a shame though :/

He isn't contributing anything. He calls everyone else boring ***** and looks down his nose at people, has an awful sense of who the "fun" people are based on who smokes and goes in the pool, and tries to defend Helen's actions as rational when she's clearly insane. None of that makes me, or any others, want to keep him. You could replace him with a mannequin doll and things would still be the same, he's not contributing anything.

He has been at the centre of the drama all week but still gets labelled a bore.

Again, a a cardboard cutout would provide as much entertainment as Ash (hint- none.) Were you a Kris Donnelly fan in BB10 by any chance? They're pretty much the same person.

[Benjamin]

Can we all just agree that Toya & Ash >>>> the dumb ape Winston

[Jordan.]

Well that is because IT IS a Reality/Game/Entertainment show!

http://www.gifwave.com/media/412937/real-housewives-realitytvgifs-bravo-ratchet-wendy-williams.gif

idgaf if I don't like someone as a person I don't wanna watch them

[Saph]

toya doing nothing for 2 days >>>> ash's entire bb15 journey

[Josy]

I'm so done with people who can't just have an honest opinion on housemates everything has to be from an entertainment perspective

:clap1: this should be the mandatory forum sig tbh

[joeysteele]

I don't dislike Ash, he isn't the one I want to go on friday. I do find him quite humerous at times too.

[Jake.]

She's not done anything for two days.

Boring bitch. :smug:

Yet if she had you'd accuse her of stealing the limelight so

[Kazanne]

Kazanne those eyes scare me when I'm browsing on my iPad in the dark.

Is it God? :worry:

:joker::joker: It's close Marsh,well worthy of a bit of worship:worship: Didn't want to be scaring you though:shocked:

[Marsh.]

Yet if she had you'd accuse her of stealing the limelight so

I was being sarcastic my son. :smug:

They seem to call anyone who barely features in the highlights bores because others steal the screen time by arguing.

The same happened to Toya, she faded into the background, proving my point. :smug:

[ImBatman]

idgaf if I don't like someone as a person I don't wanna watch them

OK then dont watch simple as! This is where Reality TV is now.

The proof is in the pudding so to speak.

Bravo in the USA, has given one of their shows (Real Housewives of NY) an ultimatum 'STEP UP OR STEP OUT' because they are to VANILLA! If they dont the show is cancelled or they will recast. Drama is what make Reality TV shows thrive now days not some dumb snoozefest!

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr02/2012/12/13/14/anigif_enhanced-buzz-9094-1355426073-0.gif

[Jake.]

I was being sarcastic my son. :smug:

They seem to call anyone who barely features in the highlights bores because others steal the screen time by arguing.

The same happened to Toya, she faded into the background, proving my point. :smug:

Clever :clap1:

[Brother Leon]

toya doing nothing for 2 days >>>> ash's entire bb15 journey

http://data1.whicdn.com/images/46732961/large.gif

[Vicky.]

Speaking of boring..where were Kim and Steven during tonights antics. Could be forgiven for forgetting they are even there :laugh:

[Marsh.]

OK then dont watch simple as! This is where Reality TV is now.

The proof is in the pudding so to speak.

Bravo in the USA, has give one of their shows (Real Housewives of NY) and ultimatum 'STEP UP OR STEP OUT' because they are to VANILLA! If they dont the show is cancelled or they will recast. Drama is what make Reality TV shows thrive now days not some dumb snoozefest!

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr02/2012/12/13/14/anigif_enhanced-buzz-9094-1355426073-0.gif

This is the third time I've seen this person tell someone to stop watching.

Can we have him banned? :idc:

Your crappy ass US shows are responsible for the sh*te we have to put up with like Towie.

[Me. I Am Salman]

OK then dont watch simple as! This is where Reality TV is now.

The proof is in the pudding so to speak.

Bravo in the USA, has given one of their shows (Real Housewives of NY) an ultimatum 'STEP UP OR STEP OUT' because they are to VANILLA! If they dont the show is cancelled or they will recast. Drama is what make Reality TV shows thrive now days not some dumb snoozefest!

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr02/2012/12/13/14/anigif_enhanced-buzz-9094-1355426073-0.gif

batman there's literally no point with this lot.

[Jordan.]

OK then dont watch simple as! This is where Reality TV is now.

The proof is in the pudding so to speak.

Bravo in the USA, has give one of their shows (Real Housewives of NY) and ultimatum 'STEP UP OR STEP OUT' because they are to VANILLA! If they dont the show is cancelled or they will recast. Drama is what make Reality TV shows thrive now days not some dumb snoozefest!

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr02/2012/12/13/14/anigif_enhanced-buzz-9094-1355426073-0.gif

:umm2:

It's also a reality TV show with an eviction format. The whole point is to give the least popular housemates their comeuppance by getting them out. Maybe it's the entertainment seekers who should find a new show since the format of this one clearly isn't suited to them.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Speaking of boring..where were Kim and Steven during tonights antics. Could be forgiven for forgetting they are even there :laugh:

they REALLY need to go.

[Jords]

dat is so weird man u got probs

[Miranda123]

He has been at the centre of the drama all week but still gets labelled a bore.

Im loving him right now.......................VOTE TOYA OUT

[Marsh.]

Clever :clap1:

You know it. :smug:

[Jemal]

toya doing nothing for 2 days >>>> ash's entire bb15 journey

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/c'mon%20son/grand/cmon-son-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-299.gif

Relax with the double standards.

[Marsh.]

:umm2:

It's also a reality TV show with an eviction format. The whole point is to give the least popular housemates their comeuppance by getting them out. Maybe it's the entertainment seekers who should find a new show since the format of this one clearly isn't suited to them.

:clap1:

[Shaun]

the people who whine about entertainment tend to often use gifs from entirely different formats of shows...

the reason why New York in 'Flavor of Love', or [insert sassy name here] from Survivor, or Nene from Real Housewives are allowed to get away with being total drama queens is because there isn't the chance for tens of thousands of vaguely rational TV-viewers to pick up a phone and go "well, actually, you know what, I think you're a dick. please leave."

[Me. I Am Salman]

dat is so weird man u got probs

there is war in the world

[Jemal]

the people who whine about entertainment tend to often use gifs from entirely different formats of shows...

the reason why New York in 'Flavor of Love', or [insert sassy name here] from Survivor, or Nene from Real Housewives are allowed to get away with being total drama queens is because there isn't the chance for tens of thousands of vaguely rational TV-viewers to pick up a phone and go "well, actually, you know what, I think you're a dick. please leave."

LOL

[Benjamin]

:umm2:

It's also a reality TV show with an eviction format. The whole point is to give the least popular housemates their comeuppance by getting them out. Maybe it's the entertainment seekers who should find a new show since the format of this one clearly isn't suited to them.

True but then you could look at ones like BB4 where the most entertaining were the ones who caused most drama and got voted out because we all hated them. We were left with a rather dull final 6 weeks.

We NEED at least 2 housemates we love to hate who cause a bit of friction or it;s just a happy house that isn't very interesting.

Not saying we need all housemates to cause drama (I'm all for varied housemates), but we do need to keep some of them.

[Me. I Am Salman]

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/c'mon%20son/grand/cmon-son-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-299.gif

Relax with the double standards.

Why have you sigged Jordan when he's anti-your opinion and guilty of double standards too ://

[Me. I Am Salman]

True but then you could look at ones like BB4 where the most entertaining were the ones who caused most drama and got voted out because we all hated them. We were left with a rather dull final 6 weeks.

We NEED at least 2 housemates we love to hate who cause a bit of friction or it;s just a happy house that isn't very interesting.

ugh thank you ben.

[Saph]

I cant tell whos on whos side in this thread lol

[Jemal]

Why have you sigged Jordan when he's anti-your opinion and guilty of double standards too ://

When i replied to your op it was sarcasm.
I dont like ash. But i dont like toya aswell.

But i mentioned double standards purely because when toya is a bore for two days its ok.
Butwhen someone else is, its 'get them out, their a bore'

[Me. I Am Salman]

I cant tell whos on whos side in this thread lol

I'm team toya 1000% but if all her enemies leave the house rooting for her will become boring.

[Me. I Am Salman]

When i replied to your op it was sarcasm.
I dont like ash.

erm ok

[Benjamin]

I cant tell whos on whos side in this thread lol

I'm all for Toya and Ash (I hate Ash) but we have to save one by going for the other.

If I had my way Winston would go, he has done nothing for the show so far.

[ImBatman]

I'm team toya 1000% but if all her enemies leave the house rooting for her will become boring.

Team Toya 1000000% Ash the bore needs to leave!

[Mystic Mock]

I wish that it was a VTS this week so we lost someone useless like Marlon or Danielle instead.

[Jemal]

Team Toya 1000000% Ash the bore needs to leave!

See this is what i mean.
So what has toya been this past few days if ash has been a bore?

[ImBatman]

:umm2:

It's also a reality TV show with an eviction format. The whole point is to give the least popular housemates their comeuppance by getting them out. Maybe it's the entertainment seekers who should find a new show since the format of this one clearly isn't suited to them.

Look at Gina and Dexter...all im saying! Times have changed...for the better!

See this is what i mean.
So what has toya been this past few days if ash has been a bore?

The most entertaining :dance:

[Macie Lightfoot]

True but then you could look at ones like BB4 where the most entertaining were the ones who caused most drama and got voted out because we all hated them. We were left with a rather dull final 6 weeks.

I can tell that you didn't even watch BB4 because this isn't an accurate assessment of it at all

[Mystic Mock]

I'm so done with people who can't just have an honest opinion on housemates everything has to be from an entertainment perspective

Well as it's an entertainment show shouldn't all the Housemates be judged on their entertainment value?

[ImBatman]

Well as it's an entertainment show shouldn't all the Housemates be judged on their entertainment value?

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr03/2012/12/13/14/anigif_enhanced-buzz-5019-1355428299-1.gif

[Marsh.]

Flava of Love and all that crap is designed and manufactured to be about sassy, weave wearing bitches being feisty and tearing chunks out of each other's wigs.

You'd be doing the format of Big Brother a huge disservice to simplify it to that crap and that level of "entertainment".

Big Brother offers that and a whole more variety.

[ImBatman]

Flava of Love and all that crap is designed and manufactured to be about sassy, weave wearing bitches being feisty and tearing chunks out of each other's wigs.

You'd be doing the format of Big Brother a huge disservice to simplify it to that crap and that level of "entertainment".

It already is...ever since it has been on channel 5 :shocked:

[Jemal]

Helen has been causing lots of arguements etc which can be counted as entertainment.
But shes a prick. But some people on here will still say keep her in even if shes the most idiotic and vilest woman in history. I won't say blinded by entertainment, its more of not facing the facts

[Marsh.]

I wish that it was a VTS this week so we lost someone useless like Marlon or Danielle instead.

How is Danielle useless?

[Marsh.]

It already is...ever since it has been on channel 5 :shocked:

Which is why it's took the downturn to trashville.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Flava of Love and all that crap is designed and manufactured to be about sassy, weave wearing bitches being feisty and tearing chunks out of each other's wigs.

You'd be doing the format of Big Brother a huge disservice to simplify it to that crap and that level of "entertainment".

Big Brother offers that and a whole more variety.

I love the stars from those shows after seeing small clips but I've never properly watched any of it in my life. So no it hasn't influenced the way I think re. big brother. I don't really know a thing about flavor of love etc

[ImBatman]

How is Danielle useless?

She was epic in the first week now it is like watching paint dry!

[Jordan.]

True but then you could look at ones like BB4 where the most entertaining were the ones who caused most drama and got voted out because we all hated them. We were left with a rather dull final 6 weeks.

We NEED at least 2 housemates we love to hate who cause a bit of friction or it;s just a happy house that isn't very interesting.

Not saying we need all housemates to cause drama (I'm all for varied housemates), but we do need to keep some of them.

Obviously I don't want it to turn into a borefest, I prefer to look at it from how much I dislike a HM vs how much they're providing to the show and someone like Ash my dislike far outweighs how much entertainment he provides therefore I want him out. Helen on the other hand even though I hate her is vital atm so I don't want her out :shrug:

[ImBatman]

Which is why it's took the downturn to trashville.

And it is not coming back to your high standards im afraid. The future of reality TV AKA Trash TV is the drama and the fights...Nicey Nice dosnt cut it in todays world :shrug:

[Marsh.]

I love the stars from those shows after seeing small clips but I've never properly watched any of it I'm my life. So no I don't know a thing about any of them and it hasn't influenced the way I think re. big brother

I was referring more to people bringing the US shows into the discussion. They're a different breed to what BB is or was.

[Marsh.]

And it is not coming back to your high standards im afraid. The future of reality TV AKA Trash TV is the drama and the fights...Nicey Nice dosnt cut it in todays world :shrug:

Says you?

Bye.

[Macie Lightfoot]

It's true that VH1 shows are a completely different brand to BBUK but it's a different, amazing brand <3

[Me. I Am Salman]

can people not quote me please until my post is in perfect English
being on a tablet makes things so difficult.

[Jemal]

Real husbands of hollywood > any real housewives series

[Me. I Am Salman]

And it is not coming back to your high standards im afraid. The future of reality TV AKA Trash TV is the drama and the fights...Nicey Nice dosnt cut it in todays world :shrug:

You just said you wanted Ash out. I don't understand :conf:

[Jake.]

Real husbands of hollywood > any real housewives series

is that an actual show

[Marsh.]

She was epic in the first week now it is like watching paint dry!

It's peaks and troughs. No housemate is going to remain a big ball of fiery energy the whole series. They're going to have their quiet periods, it'd be exhausting otherwise. Helen's wearing herself out as it is and we are on week 3.

[Jemal]

is that an actual show

LOL it is.

As the great nelly says.. 'I dont see anyone on that show with 3 grammys' :clap1:

[ImBatman]

You just said you wanted Ash out. I don't understand :conf:

If it was him or Toya (Which it is).....Im kepping toya! she has added more entertainmen/drama value to that house then Ash could ever!

[Marsh.]

It's true that VH1 shows are a completely different brand to BBUK but it's a different, amazing brand <3

VH1 or BB?

[Mystic Mock]

How is Danielle useless?

She has no fans so she's not competitive, and also she hasn't been entertaining since week 1.

[Marsh.]

So as soon as they're not arguing they're worthless?

How dull.

[ImBatman]

She has no fans so she's not competitive, and also she hasn't been entertaining since week 1.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m83cvknhvP1qzqdem.gif

[Mystic Mock]

So as soon as they're not arguing they're worthless?

How dull.

Has Danielle been wity? Has Danielle said anything interesting after the first week? My answer to both questions is no.

[Benjamin]

I can tell that you didn't even watch BB4 because this isn't an accurate assessment of it at all

I'll think you find I did and it was a disappointment after BB3. The lively ones such as Sissy and Federico (who was a twat but needed to stay) got evicted because the nation obsessed over Cameron, Scott and Jon. It went dull very quick. Our last hope was Tanya and she went out too soon.

Our final was Ray, Scott, Steph and Cameron, none of who had been the most interesting.

[ImBatman]

I'll think you find I did and it was a disappointment after BB3. The lively ones such as Sissy and Federico (who was a twat but needed to stay) got evicted because the nation obsessed over Cameron, Scott and Jon. It went dull very quick. Our last hope was Tanya and she went out too soon.

Our final was Ray, Scott, Steph and Cameron, none of who had been the most interesting.

It was basically a snoozefest! :nono:

[Benjamin]

And it is not coming back to your high standards im afraid. The future of reality TV AKA Trash TV is the drama and the fights...Nicey Nice dosnt cut it in todays world :shrug:

Oh I am all for nice people, nice people are not always boring, unfortunately BB usually has boring nice people. But a show just of nice is not good, neither is a show of just nasty/bitchy/loud. We need a couple of each to get to the final to have a perfect final

[Benjamin]

It was basically a snoozefest! :nono:

I'll give BB4 that, it started out well, it had some amazing characters, but unfortunately the louder ones all went very early.

[MeMyselfAndI]

I wish that it was a VTS this week so we lost someone useless like Marlon or Danielle instead.

The whole of Tuesday's show was the Danielle show, shes caused more drama than all the nominees bar Toya/Ash

[Mystic Mock]

The whole of Tuesday's show was the Danielle show, shes caused more drama than all the nominees bar Toya/Ash

I'm just trying not to single out Marlon all the time lol.

[Marsh.]

Has Danielle been wity? Has Danielle said anything interesting after the first week? My answer to both questions is no.

Not one of the housemates has been witty.

[ImBatman]

Not one of the housemates has been witty.

Matt was tonight in that argument against helen Loved every second of it! :hehe: Well that is just my opinion.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

shut up meg

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'll think you find I did and it was a disappointment after BB3. The lively ones such as Sissy and Federico (who was a twat but needed to stay) got evicted because the nation obsessed over Cameron, Scott and Jon. It went dull very quick. Our last hope was Tanya and she went out too soon.

Our final was Ray, Scott, Steph and Cameron, none of who had been the most interesting.

Again, your failure to mention Lisa Jeynes leaves me a bit more than skeptical.

[Benjamin]

Again, your failure to mention Lisa Jeynes leaves me a bit more than skeptical.

Oh I always forget she was part of BB4, she was epic but was in for so short a time as a newbie. She should have been in from the start and again, lasted longer. She also provided one of BB's best quotes ever:

"I can kill someone with two fingers" :worship:

[Marsh.]

Matt was tonight in that argument against helen Loved every second of it! :hehe: Well that is just my opinion.

Yes, stunned silence and then a comment about saggy tits was the epitome of wit. :hehe:

[JTM45]

I find him to be a self-obsessed thicko with generally less interesting 'banter' than the writing on one of those tiny cereal boxes from a Kellogs Variety pack!

[Natalie.]

I know yeah, I want Ash and Toya to stay but it wont happen. Winston needs to go and real quick

[Cherie]

I would love it to be Winston but the public don't vote like that. Ash for the total shock and awe that will ripple though the house :hehe:

[arista]

He's an awful prick, calling Jale a maggot.



Sure after she pissed him off
making false reasons.


And from BBOTS
we viewed them in the news clip
relaxed and speaking about it.