World Cup 2014 Knock out stage discussion thread - Brazil VS Netherlands on Saturday

[Jemal]

I hope Rooney is our lone striker next season at least theres a few years before he gets pushed back into a stevie g/pirlo role.

[Brother Leon]

RVP single handedly gave Moyes an extra month in charge last season. Even when he was meant to be horse **** he gave us our best two moments of the season (Olympiakos and Arsenal wins).

The overreactions....

[Jemal]

Never really been a BIG fan of rvp even when we signed him.
Think ive mentioned that before.

Locke were you proud of kuyt scoring possibly the worst ever hattrick in world football history

[Locke.]

The greatest hattrick ever, all 3 goals from 1 yard out, what a guy

[Jemal]

:joker:

[Legend killer]

RVP single handedly gave Moyes an extra month in charge last season. Even when he was meant to be horse **** he gave us our best two moments of the season (Olympiakos and Arsenal wins).

The overreactions....

His legendary performances vs Madrid say high in the last year and a half he had literally put in some of the worst performance's seen in the shirt

[Jemal]

PENALTY?????

[Locke.]

Go on Diaz!!!!!

[Jemal]

Holland have paid this ref?
How can you give that as handball?

[Brother Leon]

**** off Ref.

[Brother Leon]

This is going Pens and I will cry, no joke.

[King Gizzard]

Inevitable 2-0 win with Robben and KJH scoring

[King Gizzard]

I swear Robben has just whacked him one

[Jemal]

Costa rica are playing some breath taking football

[Drew.]

Stay down Navas!!

[Drew.]

Nice bit of time wasting

[Brother Leon]

Typical dutch heartbreak is soon....

[Jemal]

Cross the balll

[Legend killer]

All blame goes on the poor poor mans RVN if the Dutch lose

[Jemal]

Bolanos has just ripped the dutch to shreds

[Jemal]

I cant beleive my eyes

[Drew.]

Some of these 0-0 games this tournament have been amazing

[Brother Leon]

**** off football.

[Jemal]

If we settle to sign sneijder then so be it.
What a player.

WHAT A WORLD CUP

[Locke.]

Krul is about to come on solely for the penalty shoot out, I've never seen this happen before

[Shaun]

omg

[Shaun]

this'll be their undoing i fear :worry:

[Jemal]

LMFAO
VAN GAAL.

De gea played 120mins in a ucl final to get subbed by van gaal for Lindegaard :joker:

If that ever happens ill cry

[Drew.]

Krul is great, such a ****ty position to be chucked into if they lose now

[Locke.]

Costa Rica ruined my week in a penalty shoot out last week, it is time for them to do the same to Leon

[Alf]

We should have done that in 1990

Took Peter Shilton off for Dave Beasent

[Brother Leon]

We are out.


Don't believe this. **** off football.

[karl100589]

That was honestly one of the best 0-0 matches I've ever seen.

[Alf]

Come on Costa Rica!

[Legend killer]

Will be lucky to finish 7th the way LVG is going terrible coaching tbh

[King Gizzard]

Van gaal mind games. Messing with CR heads putting a different keeper in

[Legend killer]

Rvp to blast over book it

[Jemal]

The way the game has gone and the amount of chances dutch have missed and also the beating costa rica's woodwork has taken just makes me think its in the stars for costa rica to be in the last four.

[Shaun]

last 9 shootouts won by the team going first :think:

[Achilles]

Costa Rica are odds on favourites now. Netherlands winning the shootout would be an upset :dance:

[Shaun]

last 9 shootouts won by the team going first :think:

D:

[Alf]

Yes!

[Drew.]

Great pen

[Achilles]

Cillesen would have saved that :laugh:

[Jemal]

What a pen

[Jemal]

Over the bar

[Legend killer]

Loooool jammy git completely scuffed

[Shaun]

basically wetting myself rn

[Jemal]

Chip it ruiz, i know. You have it in you

[Shaun]

KRUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Achilles]

LVG strokin his golden willy I bet :laugh:

[Drew.]

Krul is playing this dirty

[Achilles]

Krul is Krrrruuul

[Shaun]

what's he doing? I can't see :conf2:

[Jemal]

What krul is doing is unfair.
In a shootout already enough pressure

[Achilles]

Mind games, gettin their face wavin fingers about etc

[Jemal]

What a good player - bolanos

[Locke.]

Yup, Kuyt never misses a pen

[Shaun]

surely Huntelaar will finish this off

[Achilles]

Costa Rica miss they lose.

[Jemal]

Give van gaal a knighting

[Shaun]

wow

feel for CR. they've been good, but never amazing.

[Achilles]

LVG's golden willy just shot its load :laugh:

[Novo]

Krul went the right way for every single penalty

[Brother Leon]

I'm in tears. ****ign tears. Too much pressure.

Well done Krul!

LVG has ****ing balls. Jesus.

[Novo]

Pard's deserves a lot of credit for the outstanding penalty training regime over here

[Calderyon]

Game over. Netherlands win it 4-3 in the penalties. Costa Rica deserved better.

[Brother Leon]

What krul is doing is unfair.
In a shootout already enough pressure

You do what you can to win as long as it is legal. His confidence spread to the kickers too.

[Drew.]

Gutted for Costa Rica but it sets up a better semi final.

[Locke.]

9pm kick offs all the way now, apart from the final which is 8pm

[Brother Leon]

Also Kuyt :worship:


Works his bollocks off and will play wherever he has to play for his country. What a guy.

[Novo]

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Drew and Shaun

[Samuel.]

Also Kuyt :worship:


Works his bollocks off and will play wherever he has to play for his country. What a guy.

Always underrated. Remember a lot of people looking at him as a bit of a joke player with no technical ability, but he's so important to the team hence the crazy amount of caps he has. Very few players like him.

Delivered at least 3 or 4 great crosses tonight

[Ryan57]

Balls of steel from van Gaal. Thought Costa Rica were going to win it on penalties due to all the luck they had. Fantastic performance from them nonetheless.

[Brother Leon]

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Good ol' LVG already annoying they Scousers.

[Gstar]

Why does the thread title look like "arg vs bellend"

[Calderyon]

^ It´s the divide mark (slash) that makes it. I added it so that the title is fully visible. (Otherwise there would be no space to it be shown fully)

Maybe and (&) mark would be better though.

[King Gizzard]

Vlaar a doubt for semis. Actually think that's potentially a crucial miss for them

[Calderyon]

Brazil vs Germany -> Germany advances

Brazil has the loud home crowd support. Which means two things: They can and will give
strength and belief to the players to do good and they can very much influence the referees in their decisions gaining them free corners, free kicks and even penalty kicks and yellow/red card to the other team that they would not get normally. It also means that the ref might call an offside against the other team more often. Even though the ref´s might be a little on their favor, they do have a world class goalie, a defense which can score and defend, good midfield and a fair offence.

The one thing that will affect their performance is Neymar´s tournament ending injury on their last game. Neymar was a triple threat: Goal scorer, who could decide matches, a play maker who could create lots of goal opportunities in terms of passing, runs and getting free kicks/penalty kicks, a team spirit creator to get his do their best and a solid kicker in free and corner kicks. A huge loss to the team, which will show on the field. Now someone else has to step up. Adding to that they also still have the ultimate pressure and stress as a host nation team to conquer.

What Brazil need to do is: they cannot let Germany control the ball, they need to be very aggressive (without going over) on every situation, get as many free kicks as possible and avoid counterattacks and control the pressure set by the home nation and their fans.

Germany has been efficient. They have a world class goal keeper who can win games for them in Neuer. They have solid midfield, almost impenetrable defense and a offense that can score all the necessary goals. They also have a superior ball control strategy, which we saw on their quarterfinal against France. They took the lead and then completely freezed the game and in the process France´s attacking power. The German team is looking to copy this strategy in this game too and if they succeed and keep their end fairly clean, they will win. A slower phased game benefit the Germans more.


Argentina vs Netherlands -> Netherlands advances

Argentina´s offensive play has been bit of a disappointment. They have not scored so many goals that others might have predicted or being so dominating that some have thought. But in the process, their defensive play has been very solid resulting only 3 goals in their 5 matches in the tournament. If they can keep it up and prevent Netherlands from getting too much dangerous goal scoring opportunities and keep them away from the box, score at least the one winning goal, they might go and win it.

Netherlands has been very much relying on it impressive offensive power and Van Gaal´s tactical brilliance throughout the tournament and it has worked and they have reached this stage. I don´t think they need to change much, but just continue the same way as they have been against Argentina, but also remember to defend when necessarily. If they can continue the way they have, they have a good chance on advancing to final 4.

[Brother Leon]

Germany V Argentina Final imo

They've overachieved massively and I am incredibly proud regardless of this Dutch squad. I just think Argentina will nick it. A truly amazing Tournament finished with my two most unlikable nations in the Final :laugh:

[MTVN]

A Brazil-Holland final would be the worst outcome probably, two cynical teams playing out a boring match no doubt

Shame really after all the great group matches that the knock out stage has been a bit crap in this WC; no upsets, not that many goals and no teams even playing that well

[Brother Leon]

Brazil V Holland final>>

[King Gizzard]

Brazil Argentina please, even though I prefer the other two teams to them two. would probably go down as the biggest match of all time. Especially at the Maracana

[Black Dagger]

Brazil vs Argentina pls.

Mainly for MCFC association and Argentina being my sweepstake, wouldn't be offended if Germany make it. Definitely not here for Netherlands tho.

[Samuel.]

Europe all the way

Would be so disappointing if either Brazil or Argentina win.

[Calderyon]

12th minute: Muller scores from the corner kick and Germany leads 1-0.

[MTVN]

Guarantee this ends 1-0 to Germany, and its 6.50 on skybet, happy days

[arista]

Germany scores

[Locke.]

Klose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

[MTVN]

Well my bets ****ed already

But Klose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Calderyon]

It´s 2-0 now. Klose the scorer. Brazil are totally collapsing.

[Calderyon]

3-0!!! Good god!

[AnnieK]

Jesus...Brazil have fallen apart...4-0

[MTVN]

Drew and Shaun must be thinking they're watching Arsenal

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh my actual god

[Calderyon]

4-0!! Total annihilation. What is happening!

[Achilles]

Brazil getting humiliated at their own World Cup :laugh3:

What a day :cheer2:

[Novo]

Jesus Christ

[Locke.]

Guarantee this ends 1-0 to Germany, and its 6.50 on skybet, happy days

6 minutes later.....

[Brother Leon]

Well damn.

[Drew.]

I can't believe this

[Calderyon]

4-0 and only 25 minutes were played. Even Portugal didn´t go down this quickly.

Absolute nightmare for Brazil. I think the pressure got to them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Noooooooo

[AnnieK]

5-0

Could be 10 this.....:omg:

[Drew.]

****ing hell

Woooow

[Calderyon]

5-0. This might become Brazil´s biggest loss ever.

[arista]

5 - 0
to Germany


Brazil is fecked

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

can't get my head around this...:conf:

[clao]

this is such a surreal match, wtf am i watching!

[Jords]

Hoping for double figures from Germany then

[Brother Leon]

LOL

[MTVN]

Even as a Germany 'supporter' I'm just embarrassed for Brazil, its almost quite awkward to watch

[Marc]

:hehe:

[King Gizzard]

And still Ozil is invisible Lol

[Heaven = Winner]

http://i.minus.com/iyvaxAaKBd3kU.gif

[Iceman]

Happy days

[Verbal]

Turned the game on late and I had to double check the score online. Jeezus.

[Shaun]

only just turned it on

what the ****!?

[MTVN]

Would be great to be a fly on the wall in Big Phil's changing room at half time

[Samuel.]

This is amazing

Beautiful beautiful stuff

[Shaun]

incredible

[King Gizzard]

At least wanna see a better half from Brazil. otherwise I start to feel sorry for them /fear for their lives

[MTVN]

It's kinda depressing really

[Locke.]

Their fans fully deserve every minute of this humiliation for thinking they'd won the tournament from before a ball was even kicked

[Northern Monkey]

Holy moly!I just turned on expecting 0-0 or maybe 1-0.What's going on?

[King Gizzard]

**** off Hansen

[Samuel.]

Make it 10 :pipe:

[Shaun]

I'll be optimistic for Brazil and go for a 6-1 final score

[King Gizzard]

50m for David Luiz let that sink in guys

[Shaun]

now now, it's not quite the torres transfer just yet

[Shaun]

what am i watching

[Crimson Dynamo]

luiz has always been a mess

tonight is the proof we all did not need

[Brother Leon]

http://i.imgur.com/rGioZ5n.gif

[AnnieK]

http://i.imgur.com/rGioZ5n.gif

:hehe:

[Shaun]

brazil bossing atm :worry:

shame they've got neuer in the way really

[Me. I Am Salman]

i am a mess tonight

[BBfanUSA]

What. The. Hell.

I've been running errands today so I missed the first half and I see that on FB that Germany is leading 5-0 after 45 minutes.

Wow, I'd imagine the anti-FIFA riots are going to ramp up now.

[Brother Leon]

Muller will almost definitely break the record himself. Crazy.

[BBfanUSA]

I hate Brazil and love Germany (I'm half by descent)

but I feel sorry for Brazil right now.

[Shaun]

oh no

[Shaun]

they're not even celebrating any more :(

[BBfanUSA]

Stop the slaughtering Germany,

I'm thinking of renouncing my German hertiage.

[arista]

6 to Germany

[arista]

brazil is Fecked

[MTVN]

Does Fred go to bed content at night

[King Gizzard]

They haven't really celebrated any of the goals much to be honest lol

Probably scared of infuriating the crowd

[MTVN]

Wonder what Chuck is up to right now

[Locke.]

Poor Fred is getting all the blame

[Iceman]

Wonder what Chuck is up to right now
Lol

[Brother Leon]

Poor Fred


Look at your defence and midfield you fools.

[BBfanUSA]

Wonder what Chuck is up to right now

Someone might wanna check up on them.

[King Gizzard]

Fred and Darren Bent are so similar in terms of footballing ability it's unreal

[King Gizzard]

Wouldn't be surprised if none of this team plays for Brazil


And Draxler, the player arsenal should have bought/should buy over Sanchez

[alex_front2]

Brazil are the new England.

[Shaun]

D:

[MTVN]

Is this legal?

[Brother Leon]

WOW

7-0


Luiz really is a super **** too.

[Achilles]

Still time for Brazil to get back in it. 10 minutes PLUS injury time.

[arista]

Germany 7

[King Gizzard]

ARG are gonna win this thing

[Calderyon]

So thats it then. Brazil is suffering the worst loss ever.

[King Gizzard]

Filipe Luis > Marcelo

[Brother Leon]

ARG are gonna win this thing

Not a chance. They may beat the Dutch, but not Germany.

[Achilles]

I hope it doesn't go to extra time because I want to watch BB on +1

[King Gizzard]

Messi will make Boateng look like Senderos

[Shaun]

tbh this is what they get for putting out two far superior teams in Chile and Colombia

[King Gizzard]

Justice for James Rodriguez

[MTVN]

Can the crowd get a bit of "let's pretend we scored a goal" going please

[Shaun]

the fact germany are still going forward :umm2: just have a nap tbh

[Heaven = Winner]

omg I really can't at this being a SLAUGHTER http://www.heartbreakers.me/public/style_emoticons/default/ahh.gif

[King Gizzard]

8-0 just for my OCDs sake please

[Shaun]

oh mesut

[Shaun]

THE COMEBACK!!!!!!!!!!!

[Locke.]

Ozil has ruined everything

[Crimson Dynamo]

Cue riots

[King Gizzard]

It's quite funny that despite their dominance Ozil has been rubbish

[Heaven = Winner]

Oh well, at least Brazil fans can be happy that it wasn't a clean sweep

[Brother Leon]

Brazilian praying for their lives after this match. It's that real.

[Locke.]

Fred needs to get on a plane to Old Trafford immediately, he's not safe in Brazil anymore

[Shaun]

at least they're all surely too well-protected (and, tbf, abroad) for a repeat of that Colombian guy who got murdered.

[Drew.]

Ozil just takes the piss the way he strolls around at his own pace orchestrating the midfield making everything flow & beating men, class player. He's not all about the goals and assists.

[MTVN]

This is all pretty historic really, amazing to witness

[King Gizzard]

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http://borderlineinsane.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/close-enough.png

[Shaun]

this just means tomorrow will be another 0-0 penalties match hopefully

[Brother Leon]

Poor Thiago Silva. Imagine missing the semi and your team completely lets you down like that when you could captain your nation in a final.

[King Gizzard]

Kroos just takes the piss the way he strolls around at his own pace orchestrating the midfield making everything flow & beating men, class player. He's not all about the goals and assists.

Agreed

[Calderyon]

Brazil 1 Germany 7. Unbelievable result. Worst defeat ever in the World Cup history.

[alex_front2]

Would England beat this Brazil team?

[Locke.]

This would never have happened if they took the dynamic duo with them

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/17/article-0-1DEF1E5F00000578-50_634x628.jpg

[King Gizzard]

Would England beat this Brazil team?

..no

[Black Dagger]

Insane.

Poor Fernandinho </3.

All down to Demichelis/Aguero/Zab

[Novo]

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If only I added " in a 7-1 win " I'd have 20,000 retweets right now

[MTVN]

Pipe down about your City twats

[Samuel.]

Bloody Oscar

[Shaun]

andy the sightseer

[Black Dagger]

Shut your ****ing mouth you brute, just because no players of your team bloody went to it.

[Novo]

I am looking into my crystal ball 24 hours into the future and I see Messi looking rather unhappy

[King Gizzard]

Messi's World Cup after he destroys Martins Indi and De Vrij then Boateng and Hummels

[Black Dagger]

Messi will be in a happy mood after Aguero scores the winner, no danger.

[Drew.]

I should never have underestimated you my lord

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsDiX1TCcAAkiTO.png

[Stu]

IT'S HAPPENED.

https://vine.co/v/MPHqw7DhvLV

[Novo]

Bo getting dragged through the streets of Gremio tonight

[Shaun]

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/s600x600/10401385_674951125916796_8855349343404757212_n.jpg

time for him to pull a lukas/per and get him to come to the emirates :pipe:

[King Gizzard]

Arsenals business is done after tonight

[Drew.]

Remy and Schneiderlin still to come me thinks.

[Novo]

Look at bugeyes all happy with himself after his team mates carried him for 90 minutes, he has no shame

[Shaun]

:joker:

[Black Dagger]

Draxler is handsome.

[James]

Brazil's joint biggest-ever international defeat (with a 6-0 defeat to Uruguay in 1920). I always notice that stat on national teams' Wiki pages and it has been updated.

[Black Dagger]

Hoping forvan Argievwin. Cant see past Robben killing Demi tho </3

[King Gizzard]

COME ON LEO

[Brother Leon]

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Top lad.

[Black Dagger]

Want the Argies to win even more now

[Brother Leon]

All down to the Dutch army to prevent the worst final possible for any English person. Would be a privilege to see the best in the world make the final too. Arjen deserves it.

[GypsyGoth]

Yay my fave from the start have been Engladn Japan USA Argentina!!

I hope they win 8 to nothing.

[Locke.]

Kuyt looking out for Masch like the good old days :(

[GypsyGoth]

What is that spray they use to heal people?

[Calderyon]

What is that spray they use to heal people?

http://www.dermoplast.com/en/Original_Spray.aspx

[GypsyGoth]

Thanks :love:

[Locke.]

It's so weird how much effect having a ponytail has, if you have one then you are nearly always a clumsy bastard. Now that Demichelis has got rid of his you're not worried when he's within 10 yards of the ball and he's flying into tackles and winning them all.

[Locke.]

Masch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Single handedly keeps Argentina in the tournament

[Brother Leon]

Oh Robben :(

[Drew.]

Vlaar & Enzo Perez have been class, Van Persie awful.

[Novo]

Kuyt has been the best

[Locke.]

Does gingerbear have a ponytail

[Locke.]

98 minutes and we finally have Holland's first shot on target

[Novo]

Dont be so stupid

[Locke.]

Maxi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

[Locke.]

Maxi Rodriguez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Locke.]

Run down the wing for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Novo]

Poor Kuyt is ****ed now

[Locke.]

Robben just isn't on Kuyt's wavelength

[Brother Leon]

Messi will suddenly come to life and win it after he's been ghost most the match. It's written.

[King Gizzard]

So are we all enjoying this Ronald Vlaar master class in the art of defending?

[King Gizzard]

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[Novo]

That means he is going to have a stinker in the opening game of the season

[King Gizzard]

Which will probably be for Milan or United or someone like that

I can't believe he is one of the best defenders in this World Cup when he isn't that amazing for us

[Samuel.]

Where would have Liverpool been the last 4-5 seasons had Alonso and Mascherano stayed...

[Novo]

8th because you would have never had the money for Suarez

[Brother Leon]

Buy Vlaar for 50m.


In all seriousness though...I can't ****ing do this again.

[Iceman]

Penos....who you all think have it?

[Iceman]

I want holland

[Calderyon]

Very, very even game. Great defending and goalkeeping from both teams.

Hopefully Netherlands have it in the penalties, but i fear that Argentina might just have it.

[Locke.]

Romero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Iceman]

:(

[GypsyGoth]

That was exciting :worship:

[Calderyon]

Argentina wins it 4-2 on the penalties after Netherlands suffer a total choke-up. Therefore we have a Germany vs Argentina final ahead of us and a bronze match featuring Brazil and the Netherlands.

[Drew.]

Argies!!!!!!!

Perfect final. My favourite international side vs Germany with 3 Arsenal players in. Either Messi or Ozil will come away a WC winner, win/win situation.

[Brother Leon]

Devastating.

Vlaar shut down Messi completely. Poor guy.

[Brother Leon]

Messi is at least fresh for the final after walkig around the whole match. They could steal it.