At Last - Extreme sexist voting nipped in the bud

[elliebrew]

The extreme sexism of the BB voters has to be cancelled out somehow. Great idea for a twist. Bored of male housemates all getting to the end by default.

It's a necessary 'evil'.

BB had to do something to address the imbalance.

If the current situation had kept up, Helen would be the only female left in a month from now.

[Gerbil901]

I've said this before in other threads. How is it sexist when the majority of voters and viewers are WOMEN. I guess you could say that women are just good at working against each other instead of with each other. I'm not being sexist but it's an observation I've made.

[Josy]

So to target this extreme sexism that you mention they should then have a bit of a sexist twist?

Hmm.

Not getting the logic.

[elliebrew]

I've said this before in other threads. How is it sexist when the majority of voters and viewers are WOMEN. I guess you could say that women are just good at working against each other instead of with each other. I'm not being sexist but it's an observation I've made.

Because women hate other women.

They either wanna get in the boys pants or mother them from afar.

Men can do no wrong in a womans eyes.

[JTM45]

I've never nor would i ever vote for a housemate because they were one sex or another!
If i'm voting to evict someone it's because they're being a twat.

:bored::bored::bored:

[Mystic Mock]

Look I wanted Marlon out tonight but this twist isn't fair no matter how much people will try to justify this, especially when the biggest dullard of this series is a woman.

[smeagol]

sexisim and a racisim and ageisim and twatisim lol

[Gerbil901]

Because women hate other women.

They either wanna get in the boys pants or mother them from afar.

Men can do no wrong in a womans eyes.

The saddest part about what you've said is that it's very true. I joke to my wife all the time but I'm so serious when I say this phrase.

"Women can do anything men can do. Except get along"

[elliebrew]

I've never nor would i ever vote for a housemate because they were one sex or another!
If i'm voting to evict someone it's because they're being a twat.

:bored::bored::bored:

And in your DNA its inherent that women are evil and men are not.

Its been that way for hundreds.....maybe thousands of years.

Were still suffering from inequality.

[Marsh.]

Toya was evicted because she was a woman?

Nothing to do with being a raving bitch then?

[elliebrew]

Look I wanted Marlon out tonight but this twist isn't fair no matter how much people will try to justify this, especially when the biggest dullard of this series is a woman.

Aye Winston is a dullard isn't he

[elliebrew]

Toya was evicted because she was a woman?

Nothing to do with being a raving bitch then?

If toys was a white man shed still be in the house. FACT

[Kazanne]

Because women hate other women.

They either wanna get in the boys pants or mother them from afar.

Men can do no wrong in a womans eyes.

Well,I feel quite insulted,I like some women,but lets face it the women in BB are mostly dire,the guys are much more happy and friendly

[Mystic Mock]

Aye Winston is a dullard isn't he

No one in this series is as dull as Kimberly.

[Adamw92]

No one in this series is as dull as Kimberly.

Marlon, Winston, Ash...

[Josy]

If toys was a white man shed still be in the house. FACT

If she had been a man at all she would have been ejected or at the very least given a warning for her aggressive behaviour during the big argument.

FACT.

[elliebrew]

Well,I feel quite insulted,I like some women,but lets face it the women in BB are mostly dire,the guys are much more happy and friendly

The women in BBB are strong and opinionated. They are decisive and strong willed.

That doesn't make then nasty, bitchy or dire.

Winston Marlon and Ash LAUGHED in Jales face when she was given the Killer nomination.

Literally sniggered at her.

Then when they faced the vote they threw their toys out of the pram.

[smeagol]

If toys was a white man shed still be in the house. FACT


lol thats so not true. helen is white and we all want her out .

why do people make things about race and sex, people go cause of their personality

[Samm]

The only thing that is bad about the series so far, is that twist when the Power housemate went up

[Gerbil901]

The women in BBB are strong and opinionated. They are decisive and strong willed.

That doesn't make then nasty, bitchy or dire.

Winston Marlon and Ash LAUGHED in Jales face when she was given the Killer nomination.

Literally sniggered at her.

Then when they faced the vote they threw their toys out of the pram.

To be fair Marlon and Winston are good friends of her's in the house. They just didn't know her at all during that time which is why they laughed.

[elliebrew]

lol thats so not true. helen is white and we all want her out .

why do people make things about race and sex, people go cause of their personality

because despite your protests that it doesn't exist and despite your own opinions and stance

SEX AND RACE DESCRIMINATION STILL EXISTS.

In a sublte, nasty, under the breath kind of way. But it still exists

[Mystic Mock]

Marlon, Winston, Ash...

1. Marlon had a fun dynamic with Toya that's something.

2. Winston admittedly does **** all, but again he did get into a fight with Toya which is something over Kimberly.

3. Ash is one of the most deluded Housemates of the series, that automatically makes him more interesting than Kimberly.

[elliebrew]

lol thats so not true. helen is white and we all want her out .

why do people make things about race and sex, people go cause of their personality

She's a woman though isn't she

[Adamw92]

To be fair Marlon and Winston are good friends of her's in the house. They just didn't know her at all during that time which is why they laughed.

Oh right...so that makes it all okay then.

[Josy]

She's a woman though isn't she

But she has been awful to other housemates, nasty, aggressive and so on.

Ash is loathed by most people he's male?

[smeagol]

because despite your protests that it doesn't exist and despite your own opinions and stance

SEX AND RACE DESCRIMINATION STILL EXISTS.

In a sublte, nasty, under the breath kind of way. But it still exists

yea of course but toya went cause of her personality same as ash nearly went.
and same as if helen was up she would of gone.

really to the majority it all comes down to personality.

[elliebrew]

1. Marlon had a fun dynamic with Toya that's something.

2. Winston admittedly does **** all, but again he did get into a fight with Toya which is something over Kimberly.

3. Ash is one of the most deluded Housemates of the series, that automatically makes him more interesting than Kimberly.

So you freely admit that winston is useless as a housemate but you'll actively dismiss this because a woman drew him into a conflict where he immediately back down.

sigh

[elliebrew]

yea of course but toya went cause of her personality same as ash nearly went.
and same as if helen was up she would of gone.

really to the majority it all comes down to personality.

Except when you transplant the womens personality onto the men.

Men are fine to say and do what they want because, hey...

'boys will be boys'

[Josy]

Why is ASH SO HATED THEN?

Your theory is flawed!

[Adamw92]

1. Marlon had a fun dynamic with Toya that's something.

Made relevant by Toya. Utterly useless and boring without her.

2. Winston admittedly does **** all, but again he did get into a fight with Toya which is something over Kimberly.


Again. Made relevant by Toya.

3. Ash is one of the most deluded Housemates of the series, that automatically makes him more interesting than Kimberly.

It doesn't make him interesting, it makes him awful and still dull.

[Gerbil901]

Well,I feel quite insulted,I like some women,but lets face it the women in BB are mostly dire,the guys are much more happy and friendly
I agree with you. For some reason I don't know what it is about the women but they fall into certain categories. The are either miserable, evil, or sluts. Men on the other hand do come of as being much more fun and care free. Those words are never used to describe the men. The men in the house on this series do seem to be having way more fun than the girls. They just seem so miserable. The men always seem to be enjoying themselves so much more than the women and I guess that's why women are always out first.

[elliebrew]

Why is ASH SO HATED THEN?

Your theory is flawed!

Why is ash still there?

[Gerbil901]

Oh right...so that makes it all okay then.

Never said that makes it right but I'm sure that with the relationship they have with her now they would never do something like that again.

[Marsh.]

If toys was a white man shed still be in the house. FACT

Ash is hated. Your opinion proven wrong.

[Gerbil901]

Why is ash still there?

Your logic is flawed because Marlon should be more hated than Ash and he's not.

[Adamw92]

Never said that makes it right but I'm sure that with the relationship they have with her now they would never do something like that again.

Because its such a good relationship that they just sat there while their so called friend was called a maggot by their other friend.

[elliebrew]

I agree with you. For some reason I don't know what it is about the women but they fall into certain categories. The are either miserable, evil, or sluts. Men on the other hand do come of as being much more fun and care free. Those words are never used to describe the men. The men in the house on this series do seem to be having way more fun than the girls. They just seem so miserable. The men always seem to be enjoying themselves so much more than the women and I guess that's why women are always out first.

Yes soooo much more fun

At others expense

'Highly hilarious when Jale was nominated, lets laugh in her face....sooo much fun'

'Jale the Maggost....put the water back in the pool' OMG soooo much fun lets all laugh at her.

'You've nominated me?

How DARE you nominate me. Im above being nominated. Its funny when your up for eviction but you dare turn that on us? Nah not happy.'

[Josy]

Why is ash still there?

Because Toya was worst at the beginning of the week when the voting lines opened.

[Marsh.]

Why is ash still there?

Because only one person can be evicted per week.

Toya being evicted in a show that is notorious for booting out the bitches and booing them and you want to cling onto the sexism card?

:joker: She was a loud mouthed bitch. End of.

[elliebrew]

Ash is hated. Your opinion proven wrong.

Ash is still there. Im proven right.

They'd rather keep a chauvinistic, arrogant, spiteful nasty man over a strong willed, fair, albeit overpowering woman

[elliebrew]

Because only one person can be evicted per week.

Toya being evicted in a show that is notorious for booting out the bitches and booing them and you want to cling onto the sexism card?

:joker: She was a loud mouthed bitch. End of.

Soz Saskia

[Mystic Mock]

So you freely admit that winston is useless as a housemate but you'll actively dismiss this because a woman drew him into a conflict where he immediately back down.

sigh

Well tell me one remotely interesting thing that Kimberly has done all series? The girl from the VT has not shown up in the house at all apart from her looks.

[Gerbil901]

Ash is still there. Im proven right.

They'd rather keep a chauvinistic, arrogant, spiteful nasty man over a strong willed, fair, albeit overpowering woman
And it was mostly women who voted her out also. Wasn't much sexism involved.

[elliebrew]

Well tell me one remotely interesting thing that Kimberly has done all series? The girl from the VT has not shown up in the house at all apart from her looks.

Thats right, turn it back on the girls.

[Marsh.]

Ash is still there. Im proven right.

They'd rather keep a chauvinistic, arrogant, spiteful nasty man over a strong willed, fair, albeit overpowering woman

You're not proven right. Only one person can go, one has to pull in the most votes.

It's no more sexist than if Ash had gone in her place.

You try to spin Toya's attributes as positive things, they're not.

[Marsh.]

Soz Saskia

Back when the opinionated women were normal girls. :flutter:

[elliebrew]

And it was mostly women who voted her out also. Wasn't much sexism involved.

Its absolutely useless trying to communicate with you. You have a Marlon vizor on and can't see past the end of his ego.

Women hate women.

Its internalised sexism, but its still sexism

[elliebrew]

You're not proven right. Only one person can go, one has to pull in the most votes.

It's no more sexist than if Ash had gone in her place.

Except Ash has been truly vile.

[Mystic Mock]

Made relevant by Toya. Utterly useless and boring without her.



Again. Made relevant by Toya.



It doesn't make him interesting, it makes him awful and still dull.

Astro Ash nearly lost to Toya tonight that's how interesting he is.

And please tell me who has made Kimberly relevant in the house? If anything she's helped turn Steven into a male version of herself.

[Gerbil901]

Thats right, turn it back on the girls.
In all honesty all of the girls have just been bitchy and boring. Danielle, Ashleigh, and Kimberly have been boring as hell. Jale has done more than they have. And Helen is one of the people carrying the show. Toya and Pauline were good but they were evicted because they were being bitches not because they are women.

[Marsh.]

Except Ash has been truly vile.

The people who wanted Toya out outnumbered those who wanted Ash out. One has to go and it was Toya.

Ash still got booed, he's still hated.

Ash staying doesn't mean anyone approves of anything. If Ash was loved your cry of sexism would hold up. As such, it doesn't.

You might have found things admirable about Toya, a lot of people won't have. Doesn't make them sexist.

[Gerbil901]

Its absolutely useless trying to communicate with you. You have a Marlon vizor on and can't see past the end of his ego.

Women hate women.

Its internalised sexism, but its still sexism

It has nothing to do with Marlon being my fave at all. I guess it's internalized sexism. I've never heard that phrase being used before. But I don't think this discussion has anything to do with him.

[Jemal]

the delusion:facepalm:

[Mystic Mock]

Thats right, turn it back on the girls.

You're doing the reverse though where you would just have all the guys get evicted by how you're speaking on this thread.

[elliebrew]

In all honesty all of the girls have just been bitchy and boring. Danielle, Ashleigh, and Kimberly have been boring as hell. Jale has done more than they have. And Helen is one of the people carrying the show. Toya and Pauline were good but they were evicted because they were being bitches not because they are women.

But Ash, Winston and Marlon are being bitches.

Even worse

boring egotistical bitches

Why haven't they been evicted?

Because women hate women

[Marsh.]

But Ash, Winston and Marlon are being bitches.

Even worse

boring egotistical bitches

Why haven't they been evicted?

Because women hate women

Because not everyone shares your opinion.

A lot do but they were outnumbered by people who wanted Toya out.

In Ash's case, they won't have been outnumbered by all that many.

[elliebrew]

You're doing the reverse though where you would just have all the guys get evicted by how you're speaking on this thread.

What are you trying to prove?

Are you telling me sexism doesn't exist when a girl ha gone first EVERY SINGLE SERIES!

Sometimes Half of the girl quota has gone by week 3 in some series!

And sexism doesn't exist!?

[Vicky.]

If it was all about women hating women, the vote would have been between Jale/Danielle and Toya. Not Ash and Toya.

I don't know if percentages have been revealed, but I would bet it was very close too

[Marsh.]

Because the female housemates tend to be the loudest, especially at the beginning?

The loudest, most in your face tend to get the attention and therefore the votes to be evicted.

[elliebrew]

Because not everyone shares your opinion.

A lot do but they were outnumbered by people who wanted Toya out.

In Ash's case, they won't have been outnumbered by all that many.

Ash was saved be because he's a pretty man

That is the beginning, middle and end of the story!

You only have to look at twitter to see that

[Mystic Mock]

What are you trying to prove?

Are you telling me sexism doesn't exist when a girl ha gone first EVERY SINGLE SERIES!

Sometimes Half of the girl quota has gone by week 3 in some series!

And sexism doesn't exist!?

When have I said that sexism doesn't exist on BB? I just don't agree with reversing it like you seem to want to happen, or BB doing blatent cheating to make sure that all the women survive a week.

[Marsh.]

Ash was saved be because he's a pretty man

That is the beginning, middle and end of the story!

You only have to look at twitter to see that

Yeah, that's why he was right behind Toya in the vote and way ahead of Jale and Danielle.

Unlike Jale and Danielle he was booed to high heaven and has come in for loads of criticism on here and twitter over his behaviour in recent highlights shows.

Your clutching at straws assessment isn't the beginning or end of anything.

[elliebrew]

Because the female housemates tend to be the loudest, especially at the beginning?

The loudest, most in your face tend to get the attention and therefore the votes to be evicted.

I dunno, Marlon, Ash and Winston have been very loud as well

[Gerbil901]

I dunno, Marlon, Ash and Winston have been very loud as well

The only time they were ever loud like that was when they got into an argument with Toya.

[elliebrew]

When have I said that sexism doesn't exist on BB? I just don't agree with reversing it like you seem to want to happen, or BB doing blatent cheating to make sure that all the women survive a week.

So you'd rather ANOTHER female went this week?

Really?!?

I despair

[Mystic Mock]

So you'd rather ANOTHER female went this week?

Really?!?

I despair

I find Kimberly the dullest so yes, if not her then Mark.

[elliebrew]

I find Kimberly the dullest so yes, if not her then Mark.

Then well be left with Jale, Helen, Ashleigh, Danielle

Who next? After her would you want out?

[Marsh.]

I dunno, Marlon, Ash and Winston have been very loud as well

Yeah, they've been screaming at the whole group all week.

Oh wait, no they haven't.

[elliebrew]

:nono:Yeah, they've been screaming at the whole group all week.

Oh wait, no they haven't.

Toya hasn't had an arguement since Tuesday? Your arguement is invalid

[Mystic Mock]

Then well be left with Jale, Helen, Ashleigh, Danielle

Who next? After her would you want out?

Mark.

[rionablue]

No one in this series is as dull as Kimberly.

Haha don't you mean Ashleigh??? She is a complete waste of space, has hardly done or said anything for the first few weeks and now has a scowl on her face and is trying to bitch about the cool gang. Someone said it and its true. She is jealous of Kim cos the lads pay her attention. Oh I know she has a 'boyfriend' but still. Kim might be a lot of things but dull isn't one of them. Just cos she is guarded about her feelings doesn't mean she isn't a good housemate

[elliebrew]

Mark.

So you're voting women out for either being boring or having an opinion and standing out.

You only consider pulling ranks on the men for the same reasons halfway through a series when 50% of the females have left.

And even then you choose to not evict one of the arrogant, nasty, useless, neantherthal men?

It bares repeating, I despair

[Marsh.]

:nono:

Toya hasn't had an arguement since Tuesday? Your arguement is invalid

No but she spent several days shouting the house down and then bitched incessantly ever since.

As did Ash, hence why BOTH were neck and neck to be evicted.

A FACT you seem to be ignoring in your bizarre assessments.

[Mystic Mock]

So you're voting women out for either being boring or having an opinion and standing out.

You only consider pulling ranks on the men for the same reasons halfway through a series when 50% of the females have left.

And even then you choose to not evict one of the arrogant, nasty, useless, neantherthal men?

It bares repeating, I despair

Mark's an annoying **** that's already got £5k, does he need anymore lol?

[Marsh.]

So you're voting women out for either being boring or having an opinion and standing out.

You only consider pulling ranks on the men for the same reasons halfway through a series when 50% of the females have left.

And even then you choose to not evict one of the arrogant, nasty, useless, neantherthal men?

It bares repeating, I despair

If anyone's coming across sexist, it's you.

[elliebrew]

If anyone's coming across sexist, it's you.

Marsh your just trying to disprove me to prove a point.

FACTS sexism still exists majorly.

Tonight's twist was essential,

[Mystic Mock]

So you're voting women out for either being boring or having an opinion and standing out.

You only consider pulling ranks on the men for the same reasons halfway through a series when 50% of the females have left.

And even then you choose to not evict one of the arrogant, nasty, useless, neantherthal men?

It bares repeating, I despair

Also which female Housemate have I wanted out of the house that does stuff in this series? I wanted Pauline to stay, I wanted Marlon out tonight, if anything I've been very pro-female this series bar dullards like Jale, Danielle, and Kimberly.

[elliebrew]

No but she spent several days shouting the house down and then bitched incessantly ever since.

As did Ash, hence why BOTH were neck and neck to be evicted.

A FACT you seem to be ignoring in your bizarre assessments.

So why did ash survive and Toya not?

Because ash is a bloke.

Your crazy if you think this twist wasn't needed

[Marsh.]

Marsh your just trying to disprove me to prove a point.


It doesn't take much to disprove you, your argument is flawed from the outset.

Of course I'm trying to prove a point, that is the purpose of a debate.

[Marsh.]

So why did ash survive and Toya not?

Because ash is a bloke.

Your crazy if you think this twist wasn't needed

Because, as I said, only ONE housemate can be evicted. Without figures to go off we don't know how close it was.

Fact is, audience-wise they both got a terrible reception to reflect their behaviours.