View Full Version : Is this twist discrimination?
Well what do you think? :smug:
It's not the guys fault that the females are more bitchy and argumentative so they then get voted out :shrug:
No, They did the right thing the male cast needs evicting apart from Matthew and Mark
Verbal
28-06-2014, 09:52 AM
They are doing it because too many girls are going, but yes, if it was the other way around there would be uproar. Where do you draw the line? All the blacks up for nomination? Everyone with green eyes up for nomination?
No, They did the right thing the male cast needs evicting apart from Matthew and Mark
If they were needing evicting the public would have voted the ones that were up out, they never?
They are doing it because too many girls are going, but yes, if it was the other way around there would be uproar. Where do you draw the line? All the blacks up for nomination? Everyone with green eyes up for nomination?
Yep I agree with this
If they were needing evicting the public would have voted the ones that were up out, they never?
It's not all about the public, the housemates should make the big decision it makes it a lot less predictable
No, They did the right thing the male cast needs evicting apart from Matthew and Mark
[2] It's all girls that have been evicted so far, some of the guys need to go.
arista
28-06-2014, 09:59 AM
Mark is 2 Faced
Vote him Out
InOne
28-06-2014, 10:00 AM
It was for the good of the show
It's not all about the public, the housemates should make the big decision it makes it a lot less predictable
It is about the public and always has been...the hm's get to choose who to nominate and we choose who to evict.
And why would there need to be an equal male to female balance in the house, it's never worked like that? :huh:
If you are horrible to live with and get nominated you are more than likely going to be evicted regardless of gender, simple.
[2] It's all girls that have been evicted so far, some of the guys need to go.
Why though? :laugh:
Just to make it even? it doesn't even make sense saying that tbh.
Why though? :laugh:
Just to make it even? it doesn't even make sense saying that tbh.
Just my opinion, I'd just like to see Marlon and Ash go if I'm honest, I can't stand them :joker:
arista
28-06-2014, 10:03 AM
By changing everything
this is Big Brothers Right
No one predicted this
Well done to them
Just my opinion, I'd just like to see Marlon and Ash go if I'm honest, I can't stand them :joker:
That's fair enough at least you have a reason for wanting them out I just think saying they NEED to be out to balance the male/female presence in the house is pointless.
but they need to balance out the Male and Females
That's fair enough at least you have a reason for wanting them out I just think saying they NEED to be out to balance the male/female presence in the house is pointless.
oh no I don't see the need to balance it out, it's just that I think its time some of the guys went out, although, an all male house would be a little boring anyway... less bitching D:
Kizzy
28-06-2014, 10:05 AM
Well what do you think? :smug:
It's not the guys fault that the females are more bitchy and argumentative so they then get voted out :shrug:
I feel for the chrisses and winston but that's about it... the rest of the lads are just as bitchy.
It's as unfair as the rest of the twists and is a manipulation of the nomination process, I don't like it.
but they need to balance out the Male and Females
Why though?
Why though?
Because the producers know that the females are making the series
Because the producers know that the females are making the series
So it's ok for them to get involved in and mess with the normal process?
So it's ok for them to get involved in and mess with the normal process?
They do that every week :laugh:
They do that every week :laugh:
Yeah they do with nominations and theres mostly a mixture of male females up but they have never been so blatant to make all females safe and put up all of the males, where is the line if they start doing this? like Verbal mention earlier in the thread if they turned round and said right everyone with blonde hair or everyone with green eyes is automatically nominated then most people wouldn't be saying it was fair IMO.
If next week is 'Boys Week' then the whole thing would be fair but if not then I think it's unfair on the male housemates tbh.
Jamesy
28-06-2014, 10:13 AM
I think it is. It clearly shows the producers have favouritism towards the females over males. Yes the guys aren't that interesting although producers on a show like this shouldn't have opinions making it across into the show. They need to stay neutral and let the housemates form how the group continues.
I thought a male was going to go next week anyway. Maybe if they wanted a sex-only power week they should have done a head-to-head thing for each sex to fight for the power... I don't like how this girl only thing it too forcefully producer lead.
We've have producers manipulate this show all the time, especially with noms, but this is one step too far.
MeMyselfAndI
28-06-2014, 10:14 AM
This is why BB is so tame now, "discrimination!!", "Racist!!,
It is about the public and always has been...the hm's get to choose who to nominate and we choose who to evict.
And why would there need to be an equal male to female balance in the house, it's never worked like that? :huh:
If you are horrible to live with and get nominated you are more than likely going to be evicted regardless of gender, simple.
Wasn't true yesterday, Ash is still in, who has acted far more foul than Toya did, the voting public has a large proportion of teen girls who do undeniably favour hot guys
BB is just evening the gender ratio, it is meant to be a social experiment, it doesn't work with all guys/all girls.
I don't understand the uproar the girls are voted out first each series, theres no need to worry about a guy going, Ash/Marlon were going to be evicted regardless
Yeah they do with nominations and theres mostly a mixture of male females up but they have never been so blatant to make all females safe and put up all of the males, where is the line if they start doing this? like Verbal mention earlier in the thread if they turned round and said right everyone with blonde hair or everyone with green eyes is automatically nominated then most people wouldn't be saying it was fair IMO.
If next week is 'Boys Week' then the whole thing would be fair but if not then I think it's unfair on the male housemates tbh.
Yes.. I suppose it isn't that fair when you think about it... I don't see them doing the opposite next week though.. They must be doing it to get rid of some of the male housemates though, because it's been 3 females so far.
This is why BB is so tame now, "discrimination!!", "Racist!!,
Wasn't true yesterday, Ash is still in, who has acted far more foul than Toya did, the voting public has a large proportion of teen girls who do undeniably favour hot guys
BB is just evening the gender ratio, it is meant to be a social experiment, it doesn't work with all guys/all girls.
I don't understand the uproar the girls are voted out first each series, theres no need to worry about a guy going, Ash/Marlon were going to be evicted regardless
There was more than one horrible person up yesterday and unfortunately for Toya she had a bigger mouth than the others and was involved in the biggest row.
And yes it is meant to be a social experiment so they have no right to interfere and try to even the ratio they should let it occur naturally.
Jemal
28-06-2014, 10:37 AM
Its the game, its big brother.
The girls are out because they have been pricks.
Whats the point of all this changing because girls have been twats and boys have been less twats lol.
If this was the other way around, the reaction would be priceless lol.
Ah oh well. Aslong as winston doesn't go (which he won't hopefully) i don't really care.
MeMyselfAndI
28-06-2014, 10:40 AM
Boys have been pricks also, I get Tamara & Pauline going, but Toya was no way the most horrible person there, she tried to make the house fair, but the public were too dense to realise it
Jake.
28-06-2014, 10:44 AM
Thinking about it properly, it might be.. but I really don't care, not here for a sausage fest. Needed to be done
Jemal
28-06-2014, 10:44 AM
I know boys have been pricks. I mentioned them being twats in my post..
But i get why you don't see why toya has been horrible csuse you support her but she has been a twat lol. More than ash? Debatable to some people. Me personally, i dont really care cause Toyas personality is just ergh.
Thats why she got evicted. From when tamera is going over danielle in the first week and pauline going in the second week, if you the overall opinion in the BP was that ash was more a prick than toya, i think this thread wouldn't be of existence.
Ah oh well. Aslong as winston doesn't go (which he won't hopefully) i don't really care.
Who is winston
billy123
28-06-2014, 10:48 AM
I have to vote no for now because i think it will involve a load of save and replace type stupidity before its done but its a weird thing to do thats for sure.
Vicky.
28-06-2014, 10:59 AM
Yes it is, and those supporting it would be kicking off if it was the other way around.
flamingGalah!
28-06-2014, 11:01 AM
Yes. It is for the housemates & the public to decide who is up/evicted, not BB producers, who constantly feel the need to manipulate the show... :fist:
Gerbil901
28-06-2014, 11:16 AM
I don't dislike the twist at all. I'm just offended that for some reason some people in this forum genuinely dislike some housemates because they are men.
Daniel.
28-06-2014, 11:27 AM
No way.
I don't want it to be a vagslaughter and keep all them dull, arrogant, pathetic excuses for men in the house whilst all the strong females get evicted.
It will be boys week next week anyway.
Drew.
28-06-2014, 11:31 AM
I don't want the house to be taken over by purely males, it needs a mix. But doing it this way & purposely putting every male up despite them playing the game well to still be in there is ridiculously stupid and unfair.
Gerbil901
28-06-2014, 11:33 AM
No way.
I don't want it to be a vagslaughter and keep all them dull, arrogant, pathetic excuses for men in the house whilst all the strong females get evicted.
It will be boys week next week anyway.
How are they pathetic excuses for men. I hate when people dog men because its the popular thing to do. The moment men decide to keep quiet around women so they don't get nagged at so they can just have an easy life they get called pathetic or cowards. But the moment they decide to have a go at the girls and stand up for themselves they are called sexist or misoginsts (don't know how to spell it). Oh well it's gonna be a man who wins it regardless. Women sure know how to work against one another. It's already happening in the house.
I have to vote no for now because i think it will involve a load of save and replace type stupidity before its done but its a weird thing to do thats for sure.
It's going to be the girls decisions
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/bigbrother15-2014/news-255164/girl-power-day-1.html
Gerbil901
28-06-2014, 11:38 AM
It's going to be the girls decisions
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/bigbrother15-2014/news-255164/girl-power-day-1.html
I saw that one of those days they are gonna view a VT where they ask the boys some questions. I hope Marlon didn't take the bait and give horrible answers even though I'm sure he did. Damn Idiot....
I saw that one of those days they are gonna view a VT where they ask the boys some questions. I hope Marlon didn't take the bait and give horrible answers even though I'm sure he did. Damn Idiot....
Well it looks like these questions were asked in the DR earlier in the week so yeah the males probably just think it was innocent questions.
John-s
28-06-2014, 11:43 AM
I think marlon should be exempted from eviction...... We can't possibly have three black contestants out one after the other........ Just in the spirit of bb trying to even thing out you know......
Jemal
28-06-2014, 11:44 AM
How are they pathetic excuses for men. I hate when people dog men because its the popular thing to do. The moment men decide to keep quiet around women so they don't get nagged at so they can just have an easy life they get called pathetic or cowards. But the moment they decide to have a go at the girls and stand up for themselves they are called sexist or misoginsts (don't know how to spell it). Oh well it's gonna be a man who wins it regardless. Women sure know how to work against one another. It's already happening in the house.
This. This is actually it.
When the boys stood up for thenselves after been labelled as having no balls they get described as aggresive men. BUt when they keep quiet they get labelled as cowards like you said..
Its annoying
Just my opinion, I'd just like to see Marlon and Ash go if I'm honest, I can't stand them :joker:
Unfortunately Ash (and probably Steven) will be safe this week unless someone is brave enough to go against what Helen wants. (Unless the girls nominate privately in the DR.)
This part is also unfair IMO
Viewing
Earlier on in the week, Big Brother called the boys to the Diary Room and ask them some controversial topics/questions about women. This will include:
· How many sexual partners have you had?
· Do you think it is ever acceptable to cheat in a relationship?
These Diary Rooms will then be edited down into a VT. The girls will be invited to their own private viewing in the evening, where the boys will serve them cinema snacks such as sweets and popcorn. Once the girls have been served their cinema snacks, the boys will be excluded from the viewing where they will then be shown the Diary Room VT of all the boys speaking about their controversial topics.
Unfair yes, but this should be good! :idc:
MeMyselfAndI
28-06-2014, 11:52 AM
People are getting far to upset & aggregated that a woman is not going this week :hehe:
Brother Leon
28-06-2014, 11:53 AM
Obviously. Imagine if they said anyone who is black is up and everyone white is safe or some **** like that. Just because the females are unlikable, the males are punished.
People are getting far to upset & aggregated that a woman is not going this week :hehe:
Or it's because of the numerous reasons that have already been posted in the thread...
John-s
28-06-2014, 11:54 AM
Boys have been pricks also, I get Tamara & Pauline going, but Toya was no way the most horrible person there, she tried to make the house fair, but the public were too dense to realise it
Lol at tried to make the house fair...... If so why did she not save the Danielle rather than Steven. ..... And she said I did not want Danielle to be picked on every time, but decided to save Steven knowing he was the only chance marlon and ash has of surviving eviction....
MeMyselfAndI
28-06-2014, 11:54 AM
Hardly, 3 women have left in a row, it's just equalling the numbers more, as the viewers will vote out Danielle, Ashleigh, Kimberly [Helen will be ejected/pass revoked] all in the next 4 weeks leaving just Jale
MeMyselfAndI
28-06-2014, 11:55 AM
Lol at tried to make the house fair...... If so why did she not save the Danielle rather than Steven. ..... And she said I did not want Danielle to be picked on every time, but decided to save Steven knowing he was the only chance marlon and ash has of surviving eviction....
Matthew is very close to Steven, it wasn't just Toya:blush::spin:
John-s
28-06-2014, 11:57 AM
Matthew is very close to Steven, it wasn't just Toya:blush::spin:
So you agree they were not acting out of fairness..... My point exactly.
MeMyselfAndI
28-06-2014, 11:58 AM
Of course they were, Emma said so also. She nullified 3 people from the 'cool gang' to prevent Danielle/Chris being up with Jale. She gave her reasons also, she was closer to the other gang at the time, Toya is just a lovely person that looks to help everyone in need :spin:
John-s
28-06-2014, 11:58 AM
Would It be acceptable if marlon was given a pass to the final by big brother to keep the cultural and racial mix in the house?
Jamie585
28-06-2014, 12:02 PM
On paper Yes.. It could be seen as discrimination. But I think there does need to be some more equality in terms of more men being evicted to balance it out. So for the show I don't think it is discrimination because it makes things much more balanced.
John-s
28-06-2014, 12:03 PM
Of course they were, Emma said so also. She nullified 3 people from the 'cool gang' to prevent Danielle/Chris being up with Jale. She gave her reasons also, she was closer to the other gang at the time, Toya is just a lovely person that looks to help everyone in need :spin:
In toyas voice..." You are not listening"... Lol.
If you believe that crap, why did she not save Danielle/Chris. When she saw that the cool kids still picked then up? Rather she chose to save one of their friends.
The face Emma says what she likes does not make it law..... Just tell me the rational behind saving Steven and try to tailor it with preventing Danielle/ Chris being up.
MeMyselfAndI
28-06-2014, 12:03 PM
Would It be acceptable if marlon was given a pass to the final by big brother to keep the cultural and racial mix in the house?
No because you were all up for evicting Toya, thats double standards. Also Marlon is vile & will be evicted this Friday :hehe:
John-s
28-06-2014, 12:09 PM
No because you were all up for evicting Toya, thats double standards. Also Marlon is vile & will be evicted this Friday :hehe:
Double standards? That's rich coming from you....lol
My point is, we don't care if all they blacks are evicted, or all whites or all men or all women..... You should earn your keep.
Bb giving trying to even the balance is tantamount to giving marlon the pass for the same reason.
If there is any hint of double standards, it's from people like you.
MeMyselfAndI
28-06-2014, 12:16 PM
when Toya fans were mad at the unfair twist last week, you all just laughed and said BB can change the rules etc, so why is it any different this week?
I just see double standards from many people :hehe:
Speedster
28-06-2014, 12:32 PM
Well what do you think? :smug:
It's not the guys fault that the females are more bitchy and argumentative so they then get voted out :shrug:
:) With all due respect, I prefer to think of the women as strong/confident/opinionated (I'm male btw so I don't think I can be accused of being biased).
I think the way the women are treated on the show/by the public IS discrimination though; I remember Jade Goody's fights with Shilpa Shetty-or was it sheppy? I can't remember-BB had a press conference about it and at one point they said "Big Brother reflects society", I think that's true in two ways, 1st the house is a microcosm of society,2nd I think society is reflected in the way h.ms are received by the public-whether they're booed or cheered going in or coming out of the house as well as how long they last in there and let's be honest, the women usually do badly-5 winners out of 14, not that great.
When Tamara went in the house, she was booed, while she was i the house she was hated, when she came out the house, she was booed and for about a week after, she got tons of abuse online-sarcasm/spite here, insults in the facebook Q and A she did (even after it'd ended an hour before) and then anytime her name was mentioned on the official C5 BB page. I read a lot of comments about not liking her because of hes "showmance" with Winston and at the end of week 1 she was out.Week 2 Winston is the favourite to win the show. Double Standard because he was just as much a part of the "showmance" as Tamara was but she had to take responsibility for his actions so that the public didn't need to hold him responsible himself (they let him off the hook).
On BBBOTS last night, Emma said people don't like strong women.No, they prefer weak ones....I wonder why-perhaps because they're "easier to handle" for men. I think women pick up on that and are embarrassed by women like Tamara because she's got a brain and a good job oh and shock!! horror!! isn't ugly-the biggest sin of all. Deep down I think they know what men want is an easy life which is exactly what one of the Psychologists on Bit on the Psych said a few weeks ago when she tried to explain why the women were arguing and the men were relatively quiet.
To answer the question in yes or no terms though I think no-it's not discrimination -unless- BB don't give the guys the same chance as the women in a week or two's time. They'll have to be quick about it though because soon there won't be any women left to do it to; they'll all have been voted out and we'll get one of the very unimpressive blokes walking away with £100,000 for not doing/saying/being very much instead of a female winner who had inner strength,brains and ability and may even have been a positive role model for young girls watching the show.
Vicky.
28-06-2014, 12:43 PM
Regardless of the end result..I fail to see how people can't see this as sexism tbh. I want one of the guys out next anyway (preferably Ash, Marlon or Winston...but Mark would do too) so this twist is very likely to go in my favour, but to deny that the decision in itself if discrimination is just ridiculous :S
I would however change my mind if they are planning on doing the same with the blokes..but I really doubt they are. Plus to do the same with the blokes would mean the definite eviction of another woman anyway D:
MeMyselfAndI
28-06-2014, 12:45 PM
Regardless of the end result..I fail to see how people can't see this as sexism tbh. I want one of the guys out next anyway (preferably Ash, Marlon or Winston...but Mark would do too) so this twist is very likely to go in my favour, but to deny that the decision in itself if discrimination is just ridiculous :S
People had no problem with one of the power housemates being automatically put up for no reason [Decision made after the power housemate had been decided]
Vicky.
28-06-2014, 12:47 PM
People had no problem with one of the power housemates being automatically put up for no reason [Decision made after the power housemate had been decided]
That had nothing to do with discrimination though? It was unfair(IMO), but it wasn't discrimination
The threads not about if you like the twist or not...its asking a quite simple question and people seem to be basing their answers on which housemates they like rather than anything else..when the answer here should be obvious
flamingGalah!
28-06-2014, 01:19 PM
when Toya fans were mad at the unfair twist last week, you all just laughed and said BB can change the rules etc, so why is it any different this week?
I just see double standards from many people :hehe:
But Toya fans were in uproar & were starting multiple threads at the unfairness of it. This is one thread just asking people's opinions, hardly the same reaction at all... :joker:
joeysteele
28-06-2014, 01:21 PM
I have said no for the present but if they don't give the male housemates a collective power period too then it certainly will be a discriminatory act for me.
smudgie
28-06-2014, 01:27 PM
More or less the same as Joey said above.
Plus as it is all in a game and BB makes the rules up as they go along, the housemates are aware of this so, anything goes in the name of fun.
BB will probably give some kind of power to the boys next week - but likely not nomination power as that would put out another female.
The thing that bothers me with the girl power this week is that we will probably lose Chris, Christopher or Matthew if Helen and Kim have their way. :sad: Ash and Steven seem as safe as houses unfortunately.
A lot will depend on who Jale goes with.
Obviously. Imagine if they said anyone who is black is up and everyone white is safe or some **** like that. Just because the females are unlikable, the males are punished.
if every single first evictee was black and the first 3/4 evictees of numerous series were black u wouldn't say it's just down to them being unlikeable and BB would have done something about it but they haven't for so long with the sexism that's been going on therefore it's only fair what they're doing this week
flamingGalah!
28-06-2014, 02:21 PM
if every single first evictee was black and the first 3/4 evictees of numerous series were black u wouldn't say it's just down to them being unlikeable and BB would have done something about it but they haven't for so long with the sexism that's been going on therefore it's only fair what they're doing this week
It isn't sexism either, women that are voted out first are either extremely dull or total bitches & as most people that vote are actually female, it is them voting out the women, not men...
It isn't sexism either, women that are voted out first are either extremely dull or total bitches & as most people that vote are actually female, it is them voting out the women, not men...
it's sexist men and self loathing jealous women 100%. no way is it anything other, you're in denial if you think it is
flamingGalah!
28-06-2014, 02:31 PM
it's sexist men and self loathing jealous women 100%. no way is it anything other, you're in denial if you think it is
If it was very pretty, nice & popular females being voted out then I would agree, but it isn't. The women voted out first are usually boring or utter c **ts, that is the only reason why, no sexism here...
If it was very pretty, nice & popular females being voted out then I would agree, but it isn't. The women voted out first are usually boring or utter c **ts, that is the only reason why, no sexism here...
well your wrong since 3 women have been voted out in a row most of the Big brother series and it doesn't matter if they are pretty they are still women
Speedster
28-06-2014, 02:46 PM
If it was very pretty, nice & popular females being voted out then I would agree, but it isn't. The women voted out first are usually boring or utter c **ts, that is the only reason why, no sexism here...
Then I'd like to know what people found so profoundly offensive about Tamara who was VERY attractive, calm and had a brain also didn't seem to go round acting like Danielle who was saved at Tamara's expense.
Marsh.
28-06-2014, 02:50 PM
it's sexist men and self loathing jealous women 100%. no way is it anything other, you're in denial if you think it is
:joker: Just when I thought the desperation couldn't get any worse on this forum.
I'm pretty sure you don't have to be self loathing to hate Toya.
Marsh.
28-06-2014, 02:50 PM
Then I'd like to know what people found so profoundly offensive about Tamara who was VERY attractive, calm and had a brain also didn't seem to go round acting like Danielle who was saved at Tamara's expense.
Boring. All she did was bathe with Winston.
flamingGalah!
28-06-2014, 02:54 PM
well your wrong since 3 women have been voted out in a row most of the Big brother series and it doesn't matter if they are pretty they are still women
No, I am not "wrong" dear, I simply don't share your opinion.
Then I'd like to know what people found so profoundly offensive about Tamara who was VERY attractive, calm and had a brain also didn't seem to go round acting like Danielle who was saved at Tamara's expense.
Tamara was boring. End of.
Mystic Mock
28-06-2014, 02:54 PM
Yes because imagine if they had have done Marlon and Mark as the PHM's this week? People would've cried racism and that they've basically said **** the other ethnic groups in the house which is what BB has told the guys this week basically.
Brother Leon
28-06-2014, 03:01 PM
it's sexist men and self loathing jealous women 100%. no way is it anything other, you're in denial if you think it is
Or people who thought Pauline and Toya were disgusting people?
Jesus :joker:
Speedster
28-06-2014, 03:07 PM
Boring. All she did was bathe with Winston.
At lest she didn't become a control freak like Pauline, or go savage like Toya. And if all she did was sunbathe with winston how did he get to be favourite to win the show?.
No, I am not "wrong" dear, I simply don't share your opinion.
Sorry dear it's not a opinion it's a fact
flamingGalah!
28-06-2014, 03:27 PM
Sorry dear it's not a opinion it's a fact
No, your opinion is not "fact" at all :joker: Oh dear...
Firewire
28-06-2014, 04:06 PM
How is it discrimination? Don't be ridiculous, Josy.
Marsh.
28-06-2014, 04:21 PM
At lest she didn't become a control freak like Pauline, or go savage like Toya.
Comparing her to bitches doesn't make her interesting.
Jake.
28-06-2014, 04:27 PM
Boremara provided nothing, such a let down of a housemate
daniel-lewis-1985
28-06-2014, 04:34 PM
Is the fact the 3 girls being evicted 1st discrimination?
BB had to step in or we would have no females left and lets be honest the guys in there are about as entertaining as watching Marlon taking a dump.
Marsh.
28-06-2014, 04:35 PM
I don't think any girls were in danger of going this week anyway.
Unless of course something was about to happen with Danielle and Ashleigh, I'd say Ash/Marlon/Steven were in danger this week regardless of this twist.
Only Helen would've been a guarantee and obviously she can't be evicted.
daniel-lewis-1985
28-06-2014, 04:37 PM
It is about the public and always has been...the hm's get to choose who to nominate and we choose who to evict.
And why would there need to be an equal male to female balance in the house, it's never worked like that? :huh:
If you are horrible to live with and get nominated you are more than likely going to be evicted regardless of gender, simple.
Well if its regardless of gender there should be no issue seeing as you don't see different genders as non equals do you?
If all male and female housemates are equal because you don't judge them on their gender then why is this discrimination?
Its just like any other twist, no big deal.
Was BB8 Sexist? LOL!!
Is the fact the 3 girls being evicted 1st discrimination?
BB had to step in or we would have no females left and lets be honest the guys in there are about as entertaining as watching Marlon taking a dump.
Possibly but I think it's obvious why 3 females have been evicted first and it's nothing to do with gender.
However this thread is specifically about the twist and asks whether you think it's discrimination or not.
Well if its regardless of gender there should be no issue seeing as you don't see different genders as non equals do you?
If all male and female housemates are equal because you don't judge them on their sexuality then why is this discrimination?
Its just like any other twist, no big deal.
Was BB8 Sexist? LOL!!
Your first comment in the quote above doesn't even make sense in relation to my comment?
We, the viewers get to decide the balance of the house and if that means more females get voted out first then so be it.
They are nominated by the others for a reason....
Marsh.
28-06-2014, 05:00 PM
Well if its regardless of gender there should be no issue seeing as you don't see different genders as non equals do you?
If all male and female housemates are equal because you don't judge them on their sexuality then why is this discrimination?
Can you explain this better because I'm not sure whether my brain has stopped working or it doesn't make a bit of sense.
Speedster
28-06-2014, 05:00 PM
Is the fact the 3 girls being evicted 1st discrimination?
BB had to step in or we would have no females left and lets be honest the guys in there are about as entertaining as watching Marlon taking a dump.
T-H-I-S. It's been going on for years and no-one's said a word about, now, all of a sudden it's a man's problem so people have panic attacks about the "injustice" the "poor guys".
It'll all be back to normal next week and we can all sit back and see the "natural order" of thing return as women start getting evicted one after the other out of the house to a chorus of boos and settle down for the inevitable all male final where a nobody who has has the right body parts wins £100,000.
T-H-I-S. It's been going on for years and no-one's said a word about, now, all of a sudden it's a man's problem so people have panic attacks about the "injustice" the "poor guys".
It'll all be back to normal next week and we can all sit back and see the "natural order" of thing return as women start getting evicted one after the other out of the house to a chorus of boos and settle down for the inevitable all male final where a nobody who has has the right body parts wins £100,000.
Hmm I don't think anyone's even that bothered about it tbh but it does seem like its discrimination.
I will be interested to see if next week is 'Boy Power' but I very much doubt it will be..
Speedster
28-06-2014, 05:02 PM
Comparing her to bitches doesn't make her interesting.
Agreed but it does make her less offensive and more deserving of a bit better treatment than she got. Anyway, all the men are dull but people seem fine with that.
Marsh.
28-06-2014, 05:04 PM
T-H-I-S. It's been going on for years and no-one's said a word about, now, all of a sudden it's a man's problem so people have panic attacks about the "injustice" the "poor guys".
It'll all be back to normal next week and we can all sit back and see the "natural order" of thing return as women start getting evicted one after the other out of the house to a chorus of boos and settle down for the inevitable all male final where a nobody who has has the right body parts wins £100,000.
Yeah, that's why we've had male heavy finals for the last 15 years.
Oh no, wait, the majority of the finals has been fairly equal male/female lineup.
Marsh.
28-06-2014, 05:06 PM
Agreed but it does make her less offensive and more deserving of a bit better treatment than she got. Anyway, all the men are dull but people seem fine with that.
If you want to relate this to sexism then it would hold more water if a man could be evicted in Tamara's place. Only 3 women faced the vote that week so it's irrelevant. It was a woman no matter why people were voting.
And don't try to tell me only women get heavy boos. The majority of the housemates bar a couple at the end have got heavy boos for at least the last 8 years.
Speedster
28-06-2014, 05:07 PM
Hmm I don't think anyone's even that bothered about it tbh but it does seem like its discrimination.
I will be interested to see if next week is 'Boy Power' but I very much doubt it will be..
They [I]have[I] to do it sooner or later otherwise it [I]discrimination[I] but they'd better move fast or they'll run out of women fast.
joeysteele
28-06-2014, 05:08 PM
Is the fact the 3 girls being evicted 1st discrimination?
BB had to step in or we would have no females left and lets be honest the guys in there are about as entertaining as watching Marlon taking a dump.
I usually agree a lot with you but I wouldn't see the instances you list above as discrimination.
BB didn't just put them up,they were chosen in a haphazard way at times to be up for eviction,however there were always male housemates up as well.
Therefore the people who pay to vote had a choice of voting out a male or a female but used their money and time to vote out 3 females.
I said in my post earlier that giving only the females power would be discrimination only if in a later week BB doesn't give all the males power for a time too.
Since that would result in discrimination with only the males housemate up this week should there not be a week with only female housemates up.
For me however, BB is stepping in far too much and fiddling about with noms and saving this one and choosing that one.
Time they stepped out of the picture I think anyway, as to that for at least a couple of weeks.
Marsh.
28-06-2014, 05:08 PM
They [I]have[I] to do it sooner or later otherwise it [I]discrimination[I] but they'd better move fast or they'll run out of women fast.
That's ridiculous. The housemates and BB largely decide who the public can vote for. If the women are dominating the highlights and cluttering the eviction line up then a woman will be evicted.
Speedster
28-06-2014, 05:11 PM
If you want to relate this to sexism then it would hold more water if a man could be evicted in Tamara's place. Only 3 women faced the vote that week so it's irrelevant. It was a woman no matter why people were voting.
And don't try to tell me only women get heavy boos. The majority of the housemates bar a couple at the end have got heavy boos for at least the last 8 years.
No, wasn't talking about sexism, I was just trying to explain why I think Tamara's eviction wasn't exactly fair that week-I voted like mad to get Danielle out because of how she acted, I think, by comparison, Tamara was harmless.
Speedster
28-06-2014, 05:13 PM
That's ridiculous. The housemates and BB largely decide who the public can vote for. If the women are dominating the highlights and cluttering the eviction line up then a woman will be evicted.
No-I was talking about this week''s twist so that BB put all the women up and let the guys do the voting.
Marsh.
28-06-2014, 05:15 PM
No-I was talking about this week''s twist so that BB put all the women up and let the guys do the voting.
Yes, but you over exaggerated by saying it needed to be done or they'd run out of women. That's ridiculous insinuating that the voters want women out because they're women.
Apple202
28-06-2014, 05:17 PM
no but you saying that females are more argumentative and bitchy is :hehe:
Marsh.
28-06-2014, 05:18 PM
no but you saying that females are more argumentative and bitchy is :hehe:
She said the female housemates, not females in general, try again.
Having said that, even Helen said she doesn't get along with women because they're "bitchy, sneaky and sly". :hehe:
no but you saying that females are more argumentative and bitchy is :hehe:
No it isn't, it's a fact that the females in this BB house argue and bitch more than the males :umm2:
Shaun
28-06-2014, 06:08 PM
well by strict definition of the word 'discrimination' yes
daniel-lewis-1985
28-06-2014, 06:10 PM
I usually agree a lot with you but I wouldn't see the instances you list above as discrimination.
BB didn't just put them up,they were chosen in a haphazard way at times to be up for eviction,however there were always male housemates up as well.
Therefore the people who pay to vote had a choice of voting out a male or a female but used their money and time to vote out 3 females.
I said in my post earlier that giving only the females power would be discrimination only if in a later week BB doesn't give all the males power for a time too.
Since that would result in discrimination with only the males housemate up this week should there not be a week with only female housemates up.
For me however, BB is stepping in far too much and fiddling about with noms and saving this one and choosing that one.
Time they stepped out of the picture I think anyway, as to that for at least a couple of weeks.
Perhaps I didn't make myself clear sorry im still hungover lol I was implying that discrimination does not exist in this task its just that BB are stepping in because the show is at risk of losing its bigger characters.
The men this year are just wet so I don't blame BB at all for giving the girls the power, they are the only ones who can seem to form an opinion and not cry and throw a hissy fit when being nominated (barr Danielle in week 1 lol).
If the men had proven themselves and not let the girls rule the roost then maybe they would be the power housemates instead. Its because the girls have dominated the show and been opinionated whilst the guys pretty much lay low as to why they have been evicted first.
If the men want the power they need to grow some testicles and earn it!
Brother Leon
28-06-2014, 06:13 PM
Perhaps I didn't make myself clear sorry im still hungover lol I was implying that discrimination does not exist in this task its just that BB are stepping in because the show is at risk of losing its bigger characters.
The men this year are just wet so I don't blame BB at all for giving the girls the power, they are the only ones who can seem to form an opinion and not cry and throw a hissy fit when being nominated (barr Danielle in week 1 lol).
If the men had proven themselves and not let the girls rule the roost then maybe they would be the power housemates instead. Its because the girls have dominated the show and been opinionated whilst the guys pretty much lay low as to why they have been evicted first.
If the men want the power they need to grow some testicles and earn it!
Yeah. Not like the boys didn't destroy the last power HM and ALSO got them evicted from the house :joker:
daniel-lewis-1985
28-06-2014, 06:16 PM
Yeah. Not like the boys didn't destroy the last power HM and ALSO got them evicted from the house :joker:
They whined and cried like like little bitches because they couldn't take being put up for eviction.
Look at the girls reactions this week compared to theirs.
Girls took it on the chin the boys threw hissy fits.
Even though Toya left she took her nomination like a pro.
Brother Leon
28-06-2014, 06:18 PM
They whined and cried like like little bitches because they couldn't take being put up for eviction.
Look at the girls reactions this week compared to theirs.
Girls took it on the chin the boys threw hissy fits.
Even though Toya left she took her nomination like a pro.
Yeah. Some of The girls instead just cry and complain about everything else though...
daniel-lewis-1985
28-06-2014, 06:21 PM
Yeah. Some of The girls instead just cry and complain about everything else though...
As do the guys.
Steven crying over being nominated a classic example and Ash and Winston throwing tantrums thinking how dare they be nominated was just uncomfortable to watch.
Marsh.
28-06-2014, 06:22 PM
Let's just agree, male or female, they're all a bunch of bastards this year. :idc:
daniel-lewis-1985
28-06-2014, 06:23 PM
Let's just agree, male or female, they're all a bunch of bastards this year. :idc:
HAHA.
Agreed.
As do the guys.
Steven crying over being nominated a classic example and Ash and Winston throwing tantrums thinking how dare they be nominated was just uncomfortable to watch.
How right you are! A lot of the boys are so wimpy this year.
Brother Leon
28-06-2014, 06:28 PM
As do the guys.
Steven crying over being nominated a classic example and Ash and Winston throwing tantrums thinking how dare they be nominated was just uncomfortable to watch.
Back to nominations...I would rather people reactif badly to noms than to Someone working out or jumping in te pool.
daniel-lewis-1985
28-06-2014, 06:30 PM
Back to nominations...I would rather people reactif badly to noms than to Someone working out or jumping in te pool.
Yeh me to, Michelles reaction to being constantly nominated in BB5 was awesome.
Just talking about the power and is it discrimination, females are usually seen as the weaker gender (I don't know why) but this year the boys are just pussys and the girls are ruling that house and deservedly so.
reece(:
28-06-2014, 06:41 PM
no one wants to watch a house full of men, as much as they vote out all the women.
andybigbro
28-06-2014, 07:08 PM
No it's just a twist.
I wouldn't have said the all female launch in BB8 was sexist either.
No it's just a twist.
I wouldn't have said the all female launch in BB8 was sexist either.
Completely different scenarios though.
The producers have actually guaranteed that a male housemate is going to be evicted this week.
That is a step too far with the interfering IMO.
Macie Lightfoot
28-06-2014, 07:31 PM
^ of course you think it's a step too far because your precious Ash is in jeopardy
^ of course you think it's a step too far because your precious Ash is in jeopardy
Do you have anything of worth to add to the thread topic?
Completely different scenarios though.
The producers have actually guaranteed that a male housemate is going to be evicted this week.
That is a step too far with the interfering IMO.
You wouldn't be saying that if it was all females up tbh
You wouldn't be saying that if it was all females up tbh
That's just it though, yes I would. Like I have stated I am interested to see if they are going to give the boys the power next week and put all the females up.
Its discrimination no matter what.
Macie Lightfoot
28-06-2014, 07:35 PM
Do you have anything of worth to add to the thread topic?
Probably not by your standards since you delete my posts anyway :joker:
Probably not by your standards since you delete my posts anyway :joker:
Yeah just checked the entire first page of your post history and I haven't deleted any of them so not sure what you are talking about tbh but keep on topic.
That's just it though, yes I would. Like I have stated I am interested to see if they are going to give the boys the power next week and put all the females up.
Its discrimination no matter what.
They are doing it because there are less females they won't let males have power ,I don't see the problem this is just being dragged and dragged they can do whatever they want
They are doing it because there are less females they won't let males have power ,I don't see the problem this is just being dragged and dragged they can do whatever they want
Being dragged and dragged, it's a discussion Sam there is no one forcing you to take part.
Firewire
28-06-2014, 07:45 PM
Sexism towards men doesn't exist
Being dragged and dragged, it's a discussion Sam there is no one forcing you to take part.
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Gerbil901
28-06-2014, 07:49 PM
Sexism towards men doesn't exist
It's sexism on both sides of the spectrum man or woman. That's like saying that racism towards white people doesn't exist. It doesn't get the same attention but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That statement in itself is sexist. Unless (and I hope) you are joking???
Firewire
28-06-2014, 07:53 PM
It's sexism on both sides of the spectrum man or woman. That's like saying that racism towards white people doesn't exist. It doesn't get the same attention but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That statement in itself is sexist. Unless (and I hope) you are joking???
Oh my god, is this for real? :facepalm:
Being dragged and dragged, it's a discussion Sam there is no one forcing you to take part.
oh and one more thing the house being majority under 30s every single year is discrimination too, think your just saying all of this because you like the boys in the house
Gerbil901
28-06-2014, 07:55 PM
Oh my god, is this for real? :facepalm:
There is sexism towards both men and women. That's a fact. Unless there's some kind of joke I'm not getting here......
Firewire
28-06-2014, 07:58 PM
There is sexism towards both men and women. That's a fact. Unless there's some kind of joke I'm not getting here......
Men are higher paid, higher respected and perceived as the superior sex. Women still are not equal when it comes to pretty much anything. Until women are on the same level as men, come back and call me sexist then.
Also, please don't ever suggest that racism towards white people is real. Once white people have been slaves, segregated in every aspects of society and were killed for their skin colour, come back and tell me racism towards white people is real.
Macie Lightfoot
28-06-2014, 07:58 PM
It's sexism on both sides of the spectrum man or woman. That's like saying that racism towards white people doesn't exist. It doesn't get the same attention but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That statement in itself is sexist. Unless (and I hope) you are joking???
Any ism (sexism/racism/etc) is a combination of prejudice and power so yeah men can't be the victims of sexism
smeagol
28-06-2014, 08:03 PM
its a slap in the face to every bb fan. and evrybody who has voted .
no way i will ever vote on bb again while they continue to treat the public like twats
Firewire
28-06-2014, 08:04 PM
Any ism (sexism/racism/etc) is a combination of prejudice and power so yeah men can't be the victims of sexism
:worship:
jyunga
28-06-2014, 08:04 PM
I think it is. It clearly shows the producers have favouritism towards the females over males. s
All Big Brothers try to create a diverse cast so that different groups within the public can find someone they enjoy watching. If you suddenly have all the women getting kicked outta the house you're going to lose dynamics that would entice people to watch the show and lose viewers. If more girls keep going they are going to end up with only one option; adding more females into the house (which would probably be more interesting in the long run anyways: P)
Gerbil901
28-06-2014, 08:08 PM
Men are higher paid, higher respected and perceived as the superior sex. Women still are not equal when it comes to pretty much anything. Until women are on the same level as men, come back and call me sexist then.
Also, please don't ever suggest that racism towards white people is real. Once white people have been slaves, segregated in every aspects of society and were killed for their skin colour, come back and tell me racism towards white people is real.
This is the most ignorant post I have ever read. You can have your opinion and that's fine. I won't deny that it's a male dominated world. But here's something that you fail to realize "It's only ruled by a FEW men". If anything most men's lives aren't any better than women's.
Firewire
28-06-2014, 08:11 PM
This is the most ignorant post I have ever read. You can have your opinion and that's fine. I won't deny that it's a male dominated world. But here's something that you fail to realize "It's only ruled by a FEW men". If anything most men's lives aren't any better than women's.
What the ****? Women have literally no power. Men make up most CEOs in business and leaders of the world (presidents/prime ministers). Women can't even take their tops off on the beach or breast feed their baby in public whilst men can walk around shirtless and wolf-whistle at women, and look to women as sexual objects. Men do not endure the same hardship as women. At all.
oh and one more thing the house being majority under 30s every single year is discrimination too, think your just saying all of this because you like the boys in the house
This is to do with the twist we had last night, feel free to make a thread about anything else you think is discrimination.
And its fantastic that you have decided who in the house I like when I haven't even decided myself and made a thread saying as much :umm2:
MeMyselfAndI
28-06-2014, 09:12 PM
I actually can't at people saying this is sexism :joker:
It's simple, there are almost double as many boys than girls, it's just evening out the numbers, It'd be same if there were way more girls... [There just NEVER is]
flamingGalah!
28-06-2014, 09:17 PM
What the ****? Women have literally no power. Men make up most CEOs in business and leaders of the world (presidents/prime ministers). Women can't even take their tops off on the beach or breast feed their baby in public whilst men can walk around shirtless and wolf-whistle at women, and look to women as sexual objects. Men do not endure the same hardship as women. At all.
Erm, I'm pretty sure they can & do... And plenty of women objectify men too, so yeah... Men don't get periods, but lets not pretend that men get it any easier than women...
Vicky.
28-06-2014, 09:31 PM
I actually can't at people saying this is sexism :joker:
It's simple, there are almost double as many boys than girls, it's just evening out the numbers, It'd be same if there were way more girls... [There just NEVER is]
It IS sexism though.
You can say its sexism but justified. You can say its sexism but its to even things out. But there is no getting away from it being sexism, as its making a decision based purely on gender :shrug:
joeysteele
28-06-2014, 10:28 PM
It IS sexism though.
You can say its sexism but justified. You can say its sexism but its to even things out. But there is no getting away from it being sexism, as its making a decision based purely on gender :shrug:
Good point, I agree with all that Vicky.
Shaun
28-06-2014, 10:36 PM
Any ism (sexism/racism/etc) is a combination of prejudice and power so yeah men can't be the victims of sexism
you're thinking of institutional rac/sexism.
it's entirely possible to be an individual sexist or racist. there'd literally be no other word if some black dude who decided to keep saying "whites are disgusting" or w/e.
newsbb
29-06-2014, 12:01 AM
best twist so fat tbh
mrflibble
29-06-2014, 03:16 AM
At first I didn't like it because I thought it was unfair. If the male housemates are better than the female housemates and the females are getting voted out then maybe there's a reason. BUT, since the theme is power trip and the nominations have been unfair every week, this kind of thing does fit in.
..it's possibly sexism and maybe to even out the sexes but that would still be sexism because people haven't voted housemates out because of their sex, they're voted them out because they like them the least regardless..I don't think we can say sexism definitely though until we know if the guys will get some similar power later on....
JTM45
29-06-2014, 04:05 AM
It's not all about the public, the housemates should make the big decision it makes it a lot less predictable
Well actually it IS all about the public!!!
It's a TV show that's entire purpose is to provide viewing material and entertainment for the viewing public.
The housemates already get their chance to make a big decision which is who they choose to nominate each week so to make half of them immune from being nominated to fix it so that only certain housemates stand a chance of
being evicted is just plain ridiculous, as ridiculous as Helen being given a free pass in the first place.
What's the point of Big Brother if it's not "Who goes...You Decide" ? That the whole premise of the show!
The producers interfering with the original format and rules of Big Brother is destroying the show and it's just getting worse every year the more they meddle with it. They need to take it back to how it used to be. That era of BB was superior in every way, got better viewing figures and was just far more enjoyable to watch overall. The 'tasks' are a joke these days and are pretty much pointless! They used to have some amazing tasks that provided great footage for the highlight's shows but the tasks these days barely take up a couple of minutes of the shows and usually consist of people's confidences being betrayed purely to start arguments to give them footage of housemates bitching, sniping and fighting! That used to happen naturally anyway but it was real and not manufactured and constant like it is now.
I really can't see BB being watchable for much longer if they continue down the path they're on with it sadly! :bored:
Well actually it IS all about the public!!!
It's a TV show that's entire purpose is to provide viewing material and entertainment for the viewing public.
The housemates already get their chance to make a big decision which is who they choose to nominate each week so to make half of them immune from being nominated to fix it so that only certain housemates stand a chance of
being evicted is just plain ridiculous, as ridiculous as Helen being given a free pass in the first place.
What's the point of Big Brother if it's not "Who goes...You Decide" ? That the whole premise of the show!
The producers interfering with the original format and rules of Big Brother is destroying the show and it's just getting worse every year the more they meddle with it. They need to take it back to how it used to be. That era of BB was superior in every way, got better viewing figures and was just far more enjoyable to watch overall. The 'tasks' are a joke these days and are pretty much pointless! They used to have some amazing tasks that provided great footage for the highlight's shows but the tasks these days barely take up a couple of minutes of the shows and usually consist of people's confidences being betrayed purely to start arguments to give them footage of housemates bitching, sniping and fighting! That used to happen naturally anyway but it was real and not manufactured and constant like it is now.
I really can't see BB being watchable for much longer if they continue down the path they're on with it sadly! :bored:
..really good post JTM...I think with the last bit..?..I've always thought, yeah it's ok if this is how they want it/like a different 'hero/villian' type BB which is edited to lead the public and manipulate their thoughts ..but I would rather it be called something different/change in other ways so that we can judge it differently and not always compare it to the old style, which we naturally do...
Semtex
29-06-2014, 06:15 AM
I don't know where this leaves the Hermaphrodite Steven with his big bangers and little malformed maggot penis.
He could complain if he is up due to him being a massive Mangina.
JayBlaze
29-06-2014, 06:22 AM
Of course it is discrimination but they had to do something to keep the 5 girls remaining in the house. They create most of the highlights and drama.
waterhog
29-06-2014, 08:29 AM
Well what do you think? :smug:
It's not the guys fault that the females are more bitchy and argumentative so they then get voted out :shrug:
one of the fundamental rules on going into BB is that you accept BB can change the rules when and when ever it wants - its what you sign for.
Nedusa
29-06-2014, 08:47 AM
So it's ok for them to get involved in and mess with the normal process?
Normal process.... What normal process ?
C'mon Josy you of all people must know how big brother works , there is no normal process now , twists are devised to manipulate outcomes in line with perceived viewing figures.
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Normal process.... What normal process ?
C'mon Josy you of all people must know how big brother works , there is no normal process now , twists are devised to manipulate outcomes in line with perceived viewing figures.
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The normal nominations and eviction process.
Robodog
29-06-2014, 10:20 AM
The new power twist is a division based on gender but it's not 'discrimination'.
Discrimination implies one group being discriminated against in a bad way.
There is nothing wrong with dividing the house based on gender anymore than there is dividing it based on age, hair colour or where in the world the HMs live.
It's just a bit of fun.
Also - differences do exist. Some people are female, some male, some are black, some white, some are able bodied, some less so.
It's become a touchy subject in the last few years whenever people make distinction between gender or race etc, alarm bells start ringing. I look forward to when this phase of society passes and people are comfortable talking about our differences without fear of words such as racism, sexism or discrimination popping up all the time.
The new power twist is a division based on gender but it's not 'discrimination'.
Discrimination implies one group being discriminated against in a bad way.
There is nothing wrong with dividing the house based on gender anymore than there is dividing it based on age, hair colour or where in the world the HMs live.
It's just a bit of fun.
Also - differences do exist. Some people are female, some male, some are black, some white, some are able bodied, some less so.
It's become a touchy subject in the last few years whenever people make distinction between gender or race etc, alarm bells start ringing. I look forward to when this phase of society passes and people are comfortable talking about our differences without fear of words such as racism, sexism or discrimination popping up all the time.
Isn't guaranteeing that one specific gender will be facing eviction discriminating in a 'bad' way?
joeysteele
29-06-2014, 10:29 AM
Isn't guaranteeing that one specific gender will be facing eviction discriminating in a 'bad' way?
Yes it is, I agree it definitely is.
As I said earlier in this thread I believe the only way to discount that is, if they also include a female only housemates up for eviction with the male housemates given the power then too later.
If sometime in this series they don't give the male housemates a power period and then have only the female housemates up for eviction then this will absolutely have been a discriminatory move on BB.
Northern Monkey
29-06-2014, 10:34 AM
Nah,I would'nt say so,Unless they don't do the same for the girls,Including Helen.It's not the fact that it's all boys that are up that bothers me,I just don't like the constant twists and meddling,I wish BB would just let them get on with it when it comes to noms.
Yes it is, I agree it definitely is.
As I said earlier in this thread I believe the only way to discount that is, if they also include a female only housemates up for eviction with the male housemates given the power then too later.
If sometime in this series they don't give the males housemate a power period and then have only the female housemates up for eviction than this will absolutely have been a discriminatory move on BB.
Agreed Joey, I'm very interested for how they do it next week.
100% it should've never been done. Hey, if all 8 male housemates make the final 8 then so be it, it's never happened before so would give something really fresh. It's really awful tampering/manipulating nominations and this series seems to do it every bloody week.
Northern Monkey
29-06-2014, 10:41 AM
Another thought,Last week Matt and Toya were the PH's and Toya still went up,What if all the girls are'nt really safe?
joeysteele
29-06-2014, 10:44 AM
100% it should've never been done. Hey, if all 8 male housemates make the final 8 then so be it, it's never happened before so would give something really fresh. It's really awful tampering/manipulating nominations and this series seems to do it every bloody week.
Hi Barker, I agree totally with you, I am also sick of the tampering with noms and eviction process.
All of it is pure manipulation of results now in my opinion and, as you say, doing so every week too, that is becoming really tiresome.
Speedster
29-06-2014, 11:02 AM
It's very telling that when something doesn't go the guy's way people start having panic attacks. For the record, women have always been discriminated against on the show from series one-bad v.t,booed going in, any excuse to hate them in the house, voted out in keeping a bloke in, negative spin everything thing they do,say or think, whereas the men are more often than not excused their behavior.
I take no-one's noticed 3 women have already gone and no men have gone?. This always, always, always happens, yes, you may end up with a woman in the final 4 but that means she's outnumbered by guys because all the women were voted out in favour of men.
What BB is dong now is not, is not, is NOT discrimination atm because you don't know they won't do it to the men soon. If they don't turn the tables and give the men the power then it IS discrimination. Not until.
flamingGalah!
29-06-2014, 11:17 AM
It's very telling that when something doesn't go the guy's way people start having panic attacks. For the record, women have always been discriminated against on the show from series one-bad v.t,booed going in, any excuse to hate them in the house, voted out in keeping a bloke in, negative spin everything thing they do,say or think, whereas the men are more often than not excused their behavior.
I take no-one's noticed 3 women have already gone and no men have gone?. This always, always, always happens, yes, you may end up with a woman in the final 4 but that means she's outnumbered by guys because all the women were voted out in favour of men.
What BB is dong now is not, is not, is NOT discrimination atm because you don't know they won't do it to the men soon. If they don't turn the tables and give the men the power then it IS discrimination. Not until.
Er, no one is having 'panic attacks' I don't think most of us really care about it that much for it to effect our lives, but still...
As has been mentioned countless times, the 3 women that went were either boring or bitches, it has nothing to do with the fact they have vagina's & everything to do with their personalities...
The gripe most people seem to have isn't that the men are all up, but the fact that BB is now manipulating the show completely, when the whole premise is meant to be that the public ultimately decide who goes...
But imagine for a second that the twist was reversed & all the females were up, the outrage on here would be of biblical proportions... Discrimination works both ways, as does sexism...
Gerbil901
29-06-2014, 11:44 AM
It's very telling that when something doesn't go the guy's way people start having panic attacks. For the record, women have always been discriminated against on the show from series one-bad v.t,booed going in, any excuse to hate them in the house, voted out in keeping a bloke in, negative spin everything thing they do,say or think, whereas the men are more often than not excused their behavior.
I take no-one's noticed 3 women have already gone and no men have gone?. This always, always, always happens, yes, you may end up with a woman in the final 4 but that means she's outnumbered by guys because all the women were voted out in favour of men.
What BB is dong now is not, is not, is NOT discrimination atm because you don't know they won't do it to the men soon. If they don't turn the tables and give the men the power then it IS discrimination. Not until.
I just don't think there is sexism involved with Tamara, Pauline and Toya getting evicted. One was boring the other two were bitches. They just happened to be women. If anything Pauline was loved when she first went into the house and Toya had alot of hype around her because people just knew she would be a good HM. Maybe if they didn't act the way they did they would've been alot more popular and wouldn't have been voted out.
I find it funny that mostly women watch the show and vote. Yet they are responsible for getting these so called "Strong" women off the show.
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