So Jale has joined the clique.

[jet]

She wants to save Ash, Steven, Marlon and Winston. She has joined the clique who bullied her and called her a slug, a maggot etc.
She has just ruined her chances of winning and shown herself to be a sheep, going with the strongest group to be popular in the house.
Gone off her.

[Josy]

Nothing wrong with her wanting to save the people she enjoys spending time with in the house.

[Brother Leon]

Marlon is her most real friend in there. What are you on about? :joker:

[smeagol]

she is a stinking fraud fat rat.hopefully people will start seeing exactly what she is and what she is doing in there,

total fraud shoudl be exposed

[MeMyselfAndI]

She's so fake, her nominating Ash & then wanting to save him after arselicking Helen for 2 days :facepalm:

[jyunga]

I love all these people that think they could sit in a house all summer with no friends, staring at the wall. You guys react like the hour we see each day is 24/7 in the house. Someone gets pissed off and blows up at someone and they get labeled as completely vile and no one 'good' can be friends with them from now on. lol

[MeMyselfAndI]

Her only true friends were Danielle, Ashleigh, Kim, Chris & Christopher, who gave her the time of day at the start, while the others orchestrated her

[Merry Mockmas]

I told you that she wasn't being bullied, a true victim would not want to do anything kind for their bully.

[Samm]

Her joining Helen will be her downfall

[Forgetmenot]

She wants to save Ash, Steven, Marlon and Winston. She has joined the clique who bullied her and called her a slug, a maggot etc.
She has just ruined her chances of winning and shown herself to be a sheep, going with the strongest group to be popular in the house.
Gone off her.
What choice does she have! Get real! She is part of the power team this week, ie all the females, she can hardly function out side if that and most definitely not blown it.

[Lostie!]

Nothing wrong with her wanting to save the people she enjoys spending time with in the house.

Marlon is her most real friend in there. What are you on about? :joker:

Jale wanting to save Marlon is fine, I'd be shocked if she didn't. They've always been friends and Marlon hasn't contributed to the hard time Jale had earlier on, but since when have Ash and Steven been her friends?

Ash is an especially strange one, she nominated him as recently as last week.

[MeMyselfAndI]

I told you that she wasn't being bullied, a true victim would not want to do anything kind for their bully.

You were speaking the truth all along, It took a few weeks to properly show it though

[Brother Leon]

Her only true friends were Danielle, Ashleigh, Kim, Chris & Christopher, who gave her the time of day at the start, while the others orchestrated her

That would be Marlon...most of the others sucked up to her after she was found out to be popular.

[rubymoo]

I've also one off Jale, she's proving herself to be a minion, I thought she had some self respect.

Her game plan is to keep quiet, let people see the bullying, not to react, come across as the victim and to let others dig their own graves, she does nothing to protect herself, sorry but I expected more from her......disappointed:(

[Josy]

Jale wanting to save Marlon is fine, I'd be shocked if she didn't. They've always been friends and Marlon hasn't contributed to the hard time Jale had earlier on, but since when have Ash and Steven been her friends?

Ash is an especially strange one, she nominated him as recently as last week.

Ash took her aside and apologised for what he said to her and she accepted his apology.

In the highlights tonight she was speaking to Stephen about it too and said she understood he done it when he was upset and that she gets that.

If Jale is willing to forgive him then that's up to her, she spends 24/7 in that house with the rest of them and knows a lot more than we do :shrug:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

jale and helen joining forces. :cheer2:

[Merry Mockmas]

I like Astro Ash but his been nothing but vile to Jale so I don't get it from her?

[Lostie!]

Ash took her aside and apologised for what he said to her and she accepted his apology.

In the highlights tonight she was speaking to Stephen about it too and said she understood he done it when he was upset and that she gets that.

Which doesn't equate to being "friends". Not to mention that certain others (who she doesn't seem concerned with saving) never treated her like an outcast to begin with.

If Jale is willing to forgive him then that's up to her, she spends 24/7 in that house with the rest of them and knows a lot more than we do :shrug:

We can still form opinions on what we see. That's what we all do the entire time we're here, isn't it? We can't just use the "Well, they know more than us" thing for certain situations where it suits us.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I like Astro Ash but his been nothing but vile to Jale so I don't get it from her?

They have to save Ash or Helen won't be pleased. :laugh:

[Merry Mockmas]

You were speaking the truth all along, It took a few weeks to properly show it though

Thanks MeMyselfAndI, Smeagol was the first though to cotton on I think.

There was something up about Jale from the start, I just couldn't believe her.

[jet]

She's so fake, her nominating Ash & then wanting to save him after arselicking Helen for 2 days :facepalm:

:thumbs: She's all over Helen like a rash. It's embarrassing watching her desperately befriending her tormenter and her tormenters pals.

[Josy]

Which doesn't equate to being "friends". Not to mention that certain others (who she doesn't seem concerned with saving) never treated her like an outcast to begin with.



We can still form opinions on what we see. That's what we all do the entire time we're here, isn't it? We can't just use the "Well, they know more than us" thing for certain situations where it suits us.

Well Jale mentioned they were friends before the maggot comments and Ash also said he thought they were friends that's what I meant by 'they know a lot more than us' because I would never have thought that just going by the highlights we see had I not heard them say it.

[Merry Mockmas]

They have to save Ash or Helen won't be pleased. :laugh:

Oh I'm glad that Ash will be saved, I just think that Jale has thrown the show away, not that I'm complaining of course.

[Thotmas]

That's why her and Marlon get along because they're both one of a kind...they kiss arse.

She better not save Marlon :cloud:

[smeagol]

jale facts

1/. she milled being a victim with helen. she wnet int he house guns blazing and sat back ad took it an only bitched to the cameras and diary room and tslking to us the cameras outside on the seats -- plan a

2. she mad eout chris as bullying her next - dont bully me or whatever she said. he was only tlking to her. - she took the bully angel to a whole new level plan a continued

3. in the task she calls everyone pussies and dominated it. this was the rela jale where wa this jale before

5. she ratted out chris to the other housemates 5mins after saying she wouldnt

6. she starts operation wolfie, i talk to dead people im spiritual lol

7. she ass kisses the same people who hate her and back stabs the ones who were on her side.

fraud all the way.

watch her speak everything is so thought out before she says anything she didnt even get when wisnton was winding her up cause she wa so busy thinking .

the real jale is a loud takes no crap more like helen type of person . the one were seeing is completely different

[rubymoo]

Jales playing a game, she's now going up Helens ass so a not to be a target, Helen is the alpha female and she now knows her place after all it's better to be on the right side of Helen than the Wrong side of her!

[rubymoo]

jale facts

1/. she milled being a victim with helen. she wnet int he house guns blazing and sat back ad took it an only bitched to the cameras and diary room and tslking to us the cameras outside on the seats -- plan a

2. she mad eout chris as bullying her next - dont bully me or whatever she said. he was only tlking to her. - she took the bully angel to a whole new level plan a continued

3. in the task she calls everyone pussies and dominated it. this was the rela jale where wa this jale before

5. she ratted out chris to the other housemates 5mins after saying she wouldnt

6. she starts operation wolfie, i talk to dead people im spiritual lol

7. she ass kisses the same people who hate her and back stabs the ones who were on her side.

fraud all the way.

watch her speak everything is so thought out before she says anything she didnt even get when wisnton was winding her up cause she wa so busy thinking .

the real jale is a loud takes no crap more like helen type of person . the one were seeing is completely different

:clap1:

[MeMyselfAndI]

Jales playing a game, she's now going up Helens ass so a not to be a target, Helen is the alpha female and she now knows her place after all it's better to be on the right side of Helen than the Wrong side of her!

Exactly, she needs to go soon [After Marlon & Ash], thankfully she's up everytime, so she'll be gone by the end atleast:smug:

[Blue Cadillac]

She wants to save Ash, Steven, Marlon and Winston. She has joined the clique who bullied her and called her a slug, a maggot etc.
She has just ruined her chances of winning and shown herself to be a sheep, going with the strongest group to be popular in the house.
Gone off her.

Agree 100%.

[Jewel]

It's interesting how Helen finds Jale worthy of a conversation now, could this have anything to do with the public reaction to Jale I wonder, I think Jale is a smart girl who has Helen sussed.

[Rustic bauble]

Cannot believe Jale has chosen this course. She wants to save all the boys who dissed her under Pauline's wing. All the lads who gave her the time of day throughout those first couple of weeks have now lost her support.... She has lost all my respect.

[Lostie!]

Well Jale mentioned they were friends before the maggot comments and Ash also said he thought they were friends that's what I meant by 'they know a lot more than us' because I would never have thought that just going by the highlights we see had I not heard them say it.

Fair enough. I'd never really thought of Ash and Jale as being friends, but, as you said, we're not in there. :)

Though, I even remember Ash sitting beside Helen with a grin on his face as she talked about "the slug's elephant ears", I think Week 2-ish.. He even goaded her to continue. As someone who's been a big Jale supporter, I guess it just irks me that she might be prioritizing people who have definitely been rather cruel about her over people who, as far as we know at least, haven't.

[jet]

Jales playing a game, she's now going up Helens ass so a not to be a target, Helen is the alpha female and she now knows her place after all it's better to be on the right side of Helen than the Wrong side of her!

I know, but I expected more from her. I thought she was stronger than that. It turns out that the younger kids, Ashleigh and Danielle are the strongest because they have never ever tried to lick Helen's ass.

The males who bothered with Jale at first like Chris,Christoper and Matthew she is not going to save because the cool group have 'kindly' accepted her. It's sickening.

[Rustic bauble]

Her only true friends were Danielle, Ashleigh, Kim, Chris & Christopher, who gave her the time of day at the start, while the others orchestrated her

Spot on...

[Lostie!]

Jales playing a game, she's now going up Helens ass so a not to be a target, Helen is the alpha female and she now knows her place after all it's better to be on the right side of Helen than the Wrong side of her!

If that's the case, it's not a great strategy, considering they have an idea of the main public opinion. What's the point of making yourself popular in there if it results in being unpopular out here?

[GypsyGoth]

Jale is closest with Marlon, has been from early on.

[chuff me dizzy]

I could see this coming 2 weeks ago, leave her too it, shes not a smart as she thinks she is or she would have stayed well clear

[rubymoo]

I know, but I expected more from her. I thought she was stronger than that. It turns out that the younger kids, Ashleigh and Danielle are the strongest because they have never ever tried to lick Helen's ass.

The males who bothered with Jale at first like Chris,Christoper and Matthew she is not going to save because the cool group have 'kindly' accepted her. It's sickening.

I agree with you, I'm so disappointed, with her, it made my stomach turn when she listed Winston, Ash, Marlon and Steven, if only she'd stayed true to who she was, it just goes to show in that environment even the strongest housemate will do anything to fit in:(

[Marsh.]

while the others orchestrated her

Don't try to use big words. :smug:

[rubymoo]

If that's the case, it's not a great strategy, considering they have an idea of the main public opinion. What's the point of making yourself popular in there if it results in being unpopular out here?

She's just conforming to Helens house rules as Helens top dog, she's doing anything to make life more bearable, even if it means betraying herself:(

[Marsh.]

All these people with 24/7 live feed. D:

Are you going to share the stream or admit you're talking bull? :smug:

[Will.]

Lol, so much Jale hate, she's done nothing wrong! Team Jale!

[Shaun]

It's a bit disappointing.

[jet]

Lol, so much Jale hate, she's done nothing wrong! Team Jale!

I don't hate her, I'm disappointed in her. She was one of my favourites all along. Not any more.

[rubymoo]

I don't hate her, I'm disappointed in her. She was one of my favourites all along. Not any more.

:clap1:

[Rustic bauble]

Lol, so much Jale hate, she's done nothing wrong! Team Jale!

If people had treated me like that in the first couple of weeks in the house....I wouldn't give them the time of day....but I would be loyal to those who did. Male has shown a great weakness by giving in to the people that didn't give her a chance when Pauline decided to ostracise her (probably spelt that wrong )...:shrug:

[Jords]

I must admit I was extremely disappointed... Chris and Christopher have particularly been there for her in the house when others were being nasty. I can understand Marlon and Winston but she said Ash and Steven to please the group.

[Vicky.]

Been going off her for a few days now, but tonight...well..I just dont get it. Maybe theres a LOT we arent seeing, but to me it seemed she was just desperate to fit in with the cool kids. Which seems stupid after hearing the crowd reaction for them :umm2:

I will never accept the 'she played the victim' thing though, no matter how much I go off her. I genuinely do think they picked on her at the start..and the only reason(s) it stopped was Helens warning, and the crowd reaction.

[Lola844]

Ash took her aside and apologised for what he said to her and she accepted his apology.

In the highlights tonight she was speaking to Stephen about it too and said she understood he done it when he was upset and that she gets that.

If Jale is willing to forgive him then that's up to her, she spends 24/7 in that house with the rest of them and knows a lot more than we do :shrug:

Ash thinks she trash, it was a fake apology. She's pathetic, that's my opinion. Thinking they are her friends lol. They will all talk to her now, they need her. Let me know if they speak to her next week.

She needs to go and she needs to take Helen's lap dog with her if she likes him so much.

[jet]

Jale is closest with Marlon, has been from early on.

I have never seen that, certainly not from early on :conf: I know she's been friendly with him the last few days since she has been accepted into the clique. On BOTS tonight they were showing 'friend pairings' and they had Jale and Chris as friends.

[GypsyGoth]

I have never seen that, certainly not from early on :conf: I know she's been friendly with him the last few days since she has been accepted into the clique. On BOTS tonight they were showing 'friend pairings' and they had Jale and Chris as friends.

This was in the first week, as you can see they're already confidants

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And as you can see by the next clip from the other day, they're pretty close and I think more flirty with each other

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Whoever done that pairings bit on BOTS might not even watch the show :laugh:

[jet]

I don't think the first clip was shown in the HL's - or certainly not in full and the second one was what I was talking about when I said they had gotten friendly over the last few days.
I have honestly never noticed a particular friendship between them but in another thread it shows the girls talking about who they want to save and Jale talked about how Marlon was nice to her from the start. So yeah, you are right.
She fancies him, I think. :hehe:

[GypsyGoth]

I think she does too :D

And I feel that's one of the main reason Jale is closer to that group than the others. I believe she tolerates the likes of Helen & Ash so she can hang out with Marlon more.

[rionablue]

I like Jale. I didn't at the start but I grew to like her. I just cant understand her friendship with Winston though. He is vile and I was optimistic he would be one of the boys up for eviction. Seems not now. I bloody hope to God ash is up

[Achilles]

She wants to save Ash, Steven, Marlon and Winston. She has joined the clique who bullied her and called her a slug, a maggot etc.
She has just ruined her chances of winning and shown herself to be a sheep, going with the strongest group to be popular in the house.
Gone off her.

The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.
- Mahatma Gandhi

Forgive them father, for they know not what they do.
- Jesus Christ


:hehe:

[Johnnyuk123]

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[arista]

Her joining Helen will be her downfall


No she can float about



Mark is the Real 2 faced Bitch

[Kazanne]

Jale wanting to save Marlon is fine, I'd be shocked if she didn't. They've always been friends and Marlon hasn't contributed to the hard time Jale had earlier on, but since when have Ash and Steven been her friends?

Ash is an especially strange one, she nominated him as recently as last week.

Maybe she has forgiven him as he did sit down with her and apologised.

[Lola844]

Maybe she has forgiven him as he did sit down with her and apologised.

I think Jale just likes looking at the boys lol.

[Gerbil901]

This was in the first week, as you can see they're already confidants

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And as you can see by the next clip from the other day, they're pretty close and I think more flirty with each other

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Whoever done that pairings bit on BOTS might not even watch the show :laugh:

From that first clip when Marlon started to get a little mad I heard a Jamaican accent start to come out. I didn't realize he was Jamaican. Yes it's random I know.......

[Cal.]

She should save Marlon, Christopher and Chris. They were the only ones who give her the time of day when she was being bullied.

[Gerbil901]

She should save Marlon, Christopher and Chris. They were the only ones who give her the time of day when she was being bullied.
For some reason some people are shocked about her wanting to save Marlon but they've been friends in the house since the day they arrived they formed a connection. I'm disappointed she'd rather save Ash than Christopher or Chris. Maybe she thinks that Ash is vulnerable and she's protecting him and that the other 2 are gonna be safe no matter what.

[jet]

She said she wanted to save Steven and Winston too Gerbil. :shocked:

[karezza]

There is no clique. There are the fun housemates like Marlon, Winston and Ash and then there are the bitchy, moany housemates like Ashleigh, Matthew and Danielle.

[Robodog]

I think she is pretty much a peaceful person and doesn't go for cliques. She's not for or against anyone. She seems pretty fair and gives people a second chance. I like that about her!

When people tried to argue with her - she never argued back. She can't be bothered with the negativity.

People have had a problem with her - but she hasn't with them.

Strikes me she is pretty patient with people in a good way.

And it works because now the people who gave her a hard time are feeling guilty and have apologised and she is adult enough to forgive and move on.

Go Jale ! That's the way to deal with negative people.

[Kazanne]

I think Jale just likes looking at the boys lol.

Nothing wrong with that Lola,I think I would gravitate to people that seem to be having fun,afterall what do the others offer?

[Rustic bauble]

The trouble is male will want to save Marlon and that's understandable because they are good friends....however Danielle and Ashleigh will no doubt want to save the likes of Christopher, Chris etc but the other 3 won't because Jale has suddenly forgotten who her real mates were in the beginning.
Depends how many they get to save...hopefully it's just 2 so that at least One of the 3 knobs will be up....

[jet]

I think she is pretty much a peaceful person and doesn't go for cliques. She's not for or against anyone. She seems pretty fair and gives people a second chance. I like that about her!

When people tried to argue with her - she never argued back. She can't be bothered with the negativity.

People have had a problem with her - but she hasn't with them.

Strikes me she is pretty patient with people in a good way.

And it works because now the people who gave her a hard time are feeling guilty and have apologised and she is adult enough to forgive and move on.

Go Jale ! That's the way to deal with negative people.

Yes, that is all true enough, but why would she not want to save those who DIDN'T give her a bad time. She is close to Marlon - fine, but I see no reason whatsoever that she would want to save Ash, Steven and Winston over the males who gave her the time of day when she was being mocked and cast out. Chris, Christopher and Matthew all tried to make her feel better. Mark stuck up for her when Ash called her a maggot.
Yet she wants to save the ones who laughed at her being called a slug and talked and laughed with Helen about her in hearing distance.
There is no loyalty there whatsoever. I wonder how long she'll last with the clique when they don't need her vote anymore.

[Northern Monkey]

I made a thread about this the other week when everyone was saying Jale was gonna kick all their asses etc,It was entitled 'Jale,All mouth and no trousers' or something like that.I knew it was all bravado.

[Cherry Christmas]

Jale is the only one with real power this week, Kim and Helen will stick together, as will Danielle and Ashleigh so its up to Jale really to make the decision, which could be her downfall.

[jet]

Jale is the only one with real power this week, Kim and Helen will stick together, as will Danielle and Ashleigh so its up to Jale really to make the decision, which could be her downfall.

Which is why the clique now want her with them and she's fallen for it hook line and sinker.

[Raph]

well that was predictable wasn't it. Even the victims this year are spineless horrible people

[Cherry Christmas]

Which is why the clique now want her with them and she's fallen for it hook line and sinker.

Of course, she will lose a lot of popularity especially if she puts up Little Chris.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Jale needs to go next week, shes spineless & a backstabber, much like Kim

[Gerbil901]

Jale needs to go next week, shes spineless & a backstabber, much like Kim

Who did she backstab? Even if the other housemates like Ash or Helen talk **** about her that doesn't mean that she has to hold a grudge against them. She is a really forgiving person. No reason to hold on to all that hate it just makes you a bitter and sad person. (Toya, Helen, Pauline)

[Kizzy]

All she's said from day one is she want's to have fun... There's less chance of that with danielle/matt/chris/ashleigh as all they do is bitch and moan.

[Brother Leon]

All she's said from day one is she want's to have fun... There's less chance of that with danielle/matt/chris/ashleigh as all they do is bitch and moan.

Precisely.

It's hilarious how people want to turn on her, because she doesn't dislike the same people as them.

[Tarryn]

People want to justify their favourite housemates behaviour by hating on Jale.
Jale has done nothing wrong.
She is just being nice to people.
Jale was never close to Ashleigh.
Helen apologised to Jale ( I don't think she meant it) & Jale is just being civil.
At least she does not hold grudges.

[Kizzy]

She really did try with danielle, she had lots of chats with her and was very supportive but danielle is an emotional vampire jale is best well away from her.

[jet]

All she's said from day one is she want's to have fun... There's less chance of that with danielle/matt/chris/ashleigh as all they do is bitch and moan.

I get that, but why does she want to save Ash, Steven and Winston? Even if one of them went, the clique is still intact for her to have 'fun' with.
She may be forgiving, but what about loyalty to those who befriended her while the clique laughed and mocked her?
If its all about the fun, isn't she then very shallow and self serving? Has she no self respect?

[Razor]

I was shocked when I heard her say that.

[Cold Sweat]

It would make sense for Jale to try and eliminate a housemate this week that could be a threat to her in the future when her killer nomination is reinstated.

They seem fully aware of eviction night crowd reactions and how they have matched whom has gone and whom has been in the bottom few.

[reece(:]

She's a desperate ho wanting to be liked