Worst male cast ever this year?

[Raph]

I've been thinking this for a couple of weeks now, but it seems as though casting really did a horrendous job this year with the males they casted. Either they're delusionally bitchy, or just lack any sort of personality whatsoever. I usually support the male housemates but I couldn't support one even if I tried ridiculously hard to, this year.

As Toya would say Ma-who? Although really that applies to every male housemate in there. Who are these imbeciles :bored:

[MB.]

Ikr where's the Ben Adams figure

[Will.]

Agree, I think it is pretty badly casted. Apart from Chris and Mark and Matthew. The girls have been casted we'll, although I wanted a fee more normal ones like Jale.

[Vladimir]

I agree, they're either bitchy or spineless.

[Josy]

I disagree with that, without the males we have it would just be constant bitchiness.

At least some of the males try and have some laughs and fun.

Not here for pure bitchiness tbh we need a balance

[Raph]

I disagree with that, without the males we have it would just be constant bitchiness.

At least some of the males try and have some laughs and fun.

Not here for pure bitchiness tbh we need a balance

I feel like Mark, Matthew, Ash and Marlon bitch a heck of a lot. And Steven, Chris, Christopher and Winston just lack personality. And really we've seen very little fun from any of them, in my opinion

[Drew.]

All things point towards this being C5s best male casting, It's got to the point where the males are doing so well even BB have to intervene to get rid of them. Theres no stand out yet that will be remembered like Lord Aaron, Mark is the closest but for different reasons. But every male has played a part and a role in the series so far. Whether they are likeable or not they've all produced so far.

[Raph]

All things point towards this being C5s best male casting, It's got to the point where the males are doing so well even BB have to intervene to get rid of them. Theres no stand out yet that will be remembered like Lord Aaron, Mark is the closest but for different reasons. But every male has played a part and a role in the series so far. Whether they are likeable or not they've all produced so far.

Or perhaps because they've produced so little, producers are becoming a little desperate to lose at least one of them?

[Drew.]

Thats not the reason at all.. These dipsy females go all out and make a fool out of themselves which causes the public to hate them whilst the males are still creating talking points but playing the game well.. at this rate every female will be gone with every male left standing.

[Raph]

Thats not the reason at all.. These dipsy females go all out and make a fool out of themselves which causes the public to hate them whilst the males are still creating talking points but playing the game well.. at this rate every female will be gone with every male left standing.

Yeah the males have created so many talking points

[MeMyselfAndI]

I've been thinking this for a couple of weeks now, but it seems as though casting really did a horrendous job this year with the males they casted. Either they're delusionally bitchy, or just lack any sort of personality whatsoever. I usually support the male housemates but I couldn't support one even if I tried ridiculously hard to, this year.

As Toya would say Ma-who? Although really that applies to every male housemate in there. Who are these imbeciles :bored:

I agree, the males bar Mark are SO dull, all of BOTS mention it everyday, the public agree with you. If you compare it too last year where we had Dexter & Callum, or BB12 when we had Aaron, Harry, Mark, Anton, Jay etc. The males lack personality this year

[MeMyselfAndI]

Yeah the males have created so many talking points

Bar Mark/Ash i don't see any 'talking points', either. Ash for being a prick though

[Drew.]

Chris was the highlight of the week whilst he was in power
Ash, Marlon and Winston have been all the forum can talk about for 2 weeks
Christopher was involved in a lot of the so called bullying at the start of the series
Mark has been the star of almost every highlight show
Matthew has played the game really well and is getting a lot of air time at the moment
Steven has created discussions on here every day because of how creepy and terrible he is, He reminds me a bit of Callum actually.

3 Females down with all the males still standing, its great to see.

[Josy]

Yeah the males have created so many talking points


Ash stood up to Toya telling them all to calm the **** down, starting off the argument.
Winston and Marlon argued with Toya.
Marlon argued with Toya the next day.
Ash reacted badly to being nominated.
Steven started a showmance with Kim.
Mark went a bit mental and kicked the door.
Mark ranted in the DR about Pauline.
Mark argued with Pauline in the Kitchen.
Matthew told Helen to get a boob job for her saggy tits.
Marlon fell out the door and lay flat on his face.
Steven admitted he was interested in Kim for mag deals.
Chris was amazing with the Power and nommed Pauline

All just off the top of my head but everything on that list created one or more talking points in this forum.

I am really shocked that people can't admit anything good about a housemate at all just because they dislike them, theres a few housemates I strongly disliked but can still find them interesting in some way, laugh at some things they say etc.

[Raph]

Chris was the highlight of the week whilst he was in power
Ash, Marlon and Winston have been all the forum can talk about for 2 weeks
Christopher was involved in a lot of the so called bullying at the start of the series
Mark has been the star of almost every highlight show
Matthew has played the game really well and is getting a lot of air time at the moment
Steven has created discussions on here every day because of how creepy and terrible he is, He reminds me a bit of Callum actually.

3 Females down with all the males still standing, its great to see.

Yes, the forum has been stacked with threads about Ash, Marlon and Winston. I'd say Jale (female) was far more involved in bullying things than Christopher. Mark has been incredibly fake but I suppose that can be some people's highlight of a show. And please don't compare Steven to Callum (I mean of course you're entitled to) but Callum had so much depth and character whereas all Steven is, is some recruited idiot who thinks it's good to create a showmance, as it'll "get the viewers excited".

Yeah, Matthew has been decent, i'll give you that. But still 1/8 of the male cast, is pretty shameful really.

[MeMyselfAndI]

I just see "Toya", "Pauline", "Helen", who started most of that, no one cares about a fake showmance & if falling over is the greatest highlights for the boys this season, wow :laugh2:

[Josy]

I just see "Toya", "Pauline", "Helen", who started most of that, no one cares about a fake showmance & if falling over is the greatest highlights for the boys this season, wow :laugh2:

Matters not one bit if most or some people don't care, the fact is everything on that list created talking points on this forum.

[Raph]

Ash stood up to Toya telling them all to calm the **** down, starting off the argument.
Winston and Marlon argued with Toya.
Marlon argued with Toya the next day.
Ash reacted badly to being nominated.
Steven started a showmance with Kim.
Mark went a bit mental and kicked the door.
Mark ranted in the DR about Pauline.
Mark argued with Pauline in the Kitchen.
Matthew told Helen to get a boob job for her saggy tits.
Marlon fell out the door and lay flat on his face.
Steven admitted he was interested in Kim for mag deals.
Chris was amazing with the Power and nommed Pauline

All just off the top of my head but everything on that list created one or more talking points in this forum.

I am really shocked that people can't admit anything good about a housemate at all just because they dislike them, theres a few housemates I strongly disliked but can still find them interesting in some way, laugh at some things they say etc.

Yes, the parts in bold were mildly entertaining. But the first really only because of Toya and her rant at Winston. I think that's very quick to judge saying that "people can't admit anything good about a housemate just because they dislike them". I hated Dexter, Charlie and Jackie but I could definitely appreciate them as good housemates. Definitely couldn't say the same about this lot though. Where is the depth!

[MeMyselfAndI]

Ash reacted badly to being nominated. - Compare with Danielles reaction, exactly...

Chris was amazing with the Power and nommed Pauline - Nominating someone in a bathroom is hardly a OMG WOW.

I think I nullified almost all of them now

[MeMyselfAndI]

Ash reacted badly to being nominated. - Compare with Danielles reaction, exactly...

Chris was amazing with the Power and nommed Pauline - Nominating someone in a bathroom is hardly a OMG WOW.

I think I nullified almost all of them now

[Gerbil901]

BB14 had a pretty strong male casting with Jack and Joe, Dan, Devious Dexter, and Cowboy Callum. The only weak one was Sam and he was the winner.

[Raph]

Totally agree with you MMAI, I think the Matthew comment to Helen was about the only entertaining or interesting thing a male has done in there this year

[Raph]

BB14 had a pretty strong male casting with Jack and Joe, Dan, Devious Dexter, and Cowboy Callum. The only weak one was Sam and he was the winner.

BB14 basically just had a flawless cast overall :worship: Appreciate it even more now that we're experiencing the worst series in Big Brother history

[MeMyselfAndI]

Matters not one bit if most or some people don't care, the fact is everything on that list created talking points on this forum.

If you compare it with Helen/Pauline/Toya/Ashleigh/Danielle /Jale etc, there is FAR less talking points, the males suck this year, BB12 had far superior males & the loss of Tashie/Maisy at the beginning barely affected the talking points as the girls sucked that season & the drama stemmed from the guys

[Drew.]

Yes, the forum has been stacked with threads about Ash, Marlon and Winston. I'd say Jale (female) was far more involved in bullying things than Christopher. Mark has been incredibly fake but I suppose that can be some people's highlight of a show. And please don't compare Steven to Callum (I mean of course you're entitled to) but Callum had so much depth and character whereas all Steven is, is some recruited idiot who thinks it's good to create a showmance, as it'll "get the viewers excited".

Yeah, Matthew has been decent, i'll give you that. But still 1/8 of the male cast, is pretty shameful really.

If you've been viewing most threads throughout the past week or two you'll have realized the rivalry between Toya & Ash, Winston and Marlon has carried into most threads, even threads that had nothing to do with those housemates, not necessarily threads created for them. They have been the most talked about all week. Yeah Jale was more involved but i wasn't comparing Christopher to her, I was just giving my example of how hes been involved. A lot of it to me sounds like you don't like any of them at all :shrug: that shouldn't take away the fact they've all supplied their bits to the show. Pauline and Toya were bloody awful, but they still created talking points.

[Ammi]

..yeah I agree, I think they’re fairly grim in general but I also think the females are as well....they seem particularly aggressive and nasty in their bitchiness...for me bitchiness can be quite comical as well but it just seems so bitter this year...Ash for me is the worst of the males, not only because of his arrogance because I also think that sometimes arrogance can be entertaining when it’s quite delusional but his just isn’t ..he said last night that if it was just the guys, they would just be sat around like they were and all chilled or words to that effect ..well that to me would make him the sort of housemate I really don’t want to see because he sees no need to ‘entertain’ and I guess that’s part of his arrogance, to think he can just sit at the smoking area and coast along with the guys....

..I think that arguments/drama etc are equally as boring though if that’s all there is...I think the problem is for me is just the lack of any entertaining housemates who aren’t entertaining only through negativity but they are actually creating interest...Aaron was kind of the ‘king’ for that but in the past there has also been others...Mark seems to come the closest to I think being the best housemate...I think there are some housemates that seem like nice people, like Christopher and Chris but atm they’re also quite bland or just not being shown enough so are kind of coming across as a bit boring...but yeah, whether with the males or female, a good housemate to me means entertaining/someone who makes me laugh or someone very interesting...not entertaining as in a fairly horrid person....

[Gerbil901]

BB14 basically just had a flawless cast overall :worship: Appreciate it even more now that we're experiencing the worst series in Big Brother history
I was just thinking that. Outside of Jemima, Sam and Sophie the rest of that cast was flawless. It was my personal favorite and even though the twists sucked and there weren't as many arguments as this year. That series made you feel so much for all of those housemates whether you loved them or hated them. And they also had so much fun in that house last year. I miss them all. Even Dexter and I ****in hated him.

[Raph]

I was just thinking that. Outside of Jemima, Sam and Sophie the rest of that cast was flawless. It was my personal favorite and even though the twists sucked and there weren't as many arguments as this year. That series made you feel so much for all of those housemates whether you loved them or hated them. And they also had so much fun in that house last year. I miss them all. Even Dexter and I ****in hated him.

YES! I was literally so involved in BB14, because I felt so much for each and every housemate. I remember being so invested in each eviction and being so pumped to watch every highlights show. I miss them all too :( Although I personally think Jemima and Sam were great too. Remember the "my daughter died" argument she had? It was hysterical. Sophie was the only poor housemate that year really.

[MeMyselfAndI]

I do remember Sophie's "You talk outt yor arsehol" comment to Dexter. But yeah she was a **** housemate

[Headie]

If you've been viewing most threads throughout the past week or two you'll have realized the rivalry between Toya & Ash, Winston and Marlon has carried into most threads, even threads that had nothing to do with those housemates, not necessarily threads created for them. They have been the most talked about all week.

That's only because Ash fans (and Toya fans, must admit) wouldn't/won't stop talking about them 24/7 to even consider that there are other HMs in there.

I'm actually happy my favourite's gone now, just because I can watch the show from a non-biased point of view and kind of start over again with my choosing faves and stuff.

[MeMyselfAndI]

BB6 & BB12's males were actually better than the overall females of the cast

[Gerbil901]

BB6 & BB12's males were actually better than the overall females of the cast
Do you mean for those respective seasons or compared to this year's girls. If so I thought that BB14 was better than this year's female cast too in my opinion.

[Brother Leon]

We had Sam and Callum just last year.

[rionablue]

its not often we agree Barker :) but yes definitely the worst I reckon. The guys who look any way fit are airheads, Mark and Christopher are too camp and Chris well Chris is just too laid back

[Gerbil901]

We had Sam and Callum just last year.
Cowboy Callum was a great housemate. He wasn't boring at all. I'd say along with Hazel, Dan, Gina and Dexter they were the best housemates that whole year. I can't disagree about Sam though sadly. Cool guy just on the wrong show.

[billy123]

I think the males housemates (i hate people calling them a cast) are pretty good, if anything its a poor female set of housemates that cant relax and feel comfortable with themselves they feel the need to prove themselves because of being insecure and just come across as aggressive and horrible.

The guys are pretty much just getting on with life comfortable with who they are. Willing to have a laugh with each other but defend themselves just when they have to.

If anything its a crap set of female housemates.

[Jemal]

The boys last year was crap.
Apart from the fantastic callum the great. and sam every week or two.

Apart from that the boys imo were crap.

[Jack_]

If you've been viewing most threads throughout the past week or two you'll have realized the rivalry between Toya & Ash, Winston and Marlon has carried into most threads, even threads that had nothing to do with those housemates, not necessarily threads created for them. They have been the most talked about all week. Yeah Jale was more involved but i wasn't comparing Christopher to her, I was just giving my example of how hes been involved. A lot of it to me sounds like you don't like any of them at all :shrug: that shouldn't take away the fact they've all supplied their bits to the show. Pauline and Toya were bloody awful, but they still created talking points.

Then if you accept the talking points argument and are even listing talking points the male housemates have provided to justify their position and role in the show, why would you or did you want to get rid of people like Pauline and Toya who as you've just agreed created talking points as well? Surely by that logic we should get rid of all of the males you listed too?

I agree that the male cast isn't that bad and people like Ash, Mark, Christopher, Steven, Matthew and Chris (although he's a bit tenuous cause he had to be given a role through the Power Housemate twist) have provided things, but either you support keeping those who create the talking points in the show or not :suspect: it can't be one rule for one gender and another for another

[Jack_]

The boys last year was crap.
Apart from the fantastic callum the great. and sam every week or two.

Apart from that the boys imo were crap.

Dexter not mentioned in your post, Sam is

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[Adamw92]

Every other male cast of C5 >>>> BB15s male cast

[Drew.]

Then if you accept the talking points argument and are even listing talking points the male housemates have provided to justify their position and role in the show, why would you or did you want to get rid of people like Pauline and Toya who as you've just agreed created talking points as well? Surely by that logic we should get rid of all of the males you listed too?

I agree that the male cast isn't that bad and people like Ash, Mark, Christopher, Steven, Matthew and Chris (although he's a bit tenuous cause he had to be given a role through the Power Housemate twist) have provided things, but either you support keeping those who create the talking points in the show or not :suspect: it can't be one rule for one gender and another for another

This thread isn't about our favourites Jack, I've listed that Steven creates talking points, but i want to see him gone. I'm different to you, I don't want housemates in the house i dislike just because they create discussions. I'm replying to this thread that the males aren't as bad as they've been made out to be. You've just made an assumption from my post.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Ash stood up to Toya telling them all to calm the **** down, starting off the argument.
Winston and Marlon argued with Toya.
Marlon argued with Toya the next day.
Ash reacted badly to being nominated.
Steven started a showmance with Kim.
Mark went a bit mental and kicked the door.
Mark ranted in the DR about Pauline.
Mark argued with Pauline in the Kitchen.
Matthew told Helen to get a boob job for her saggy tits.
Marlon fell out the door and lay flat on his face.
Steven admitted he was interested in Kim for mag deals.
Chris was amazing with the Power and nommed Pauline

Almost none of these are talking points though. I'm sure there was RIVETING discussion over when Marlon tripped, what a ****ing deep moment!

[Kizzy]

Yep, to say the theme is 'power' the fellas are really weak.

[Daniel.]

Yes by far. A terrible, terrible male cast - BB13 had a pretty **** male cast too though but at least that had Benedict and Chris.

BB6 male cast > everything

[Jack_]

This thread isn't about our favourites Jack, I've listed that Steven creates talking points, but i want to see him gone. I'm different to you, I don't want housemates in the house i dislike just because they create discussions. You've just made an assumption from my post.

Well that's fair enough but I've not made any assumptions...you were the first person in this thread to bring up the fact that some of the male housemates are 'providing' and creating talking points as a way of arguing that the male cast isn't that bad, so if you don't agree with the talking points argument as means of justifying a housemate's worth why did you bring it up? That's the bit I don't get

All things point towards this being C5s best male casting, It's got to the point where the males are doing so well even BB have to intervene to get rid of them. Theres no stand out yet that will be remembered like Lord Aaron, Mark is the closest but for different reasons. But every male has played a part and a role in the series so far. Whether they are likeable or not they've all produced so far.

[Drew.]

Well that's fair enough but I've not made any assumptions...you were the first person in this thread to bring up the fact that some of the male housemates are 'providing' and creating talking points as a way of arguing that the male cast isn't that bad, so if you don't agree with the talking points argument as means of justifying a housemate's worth why did you bring it up? That's the bit I don't get

Thats because the males are providing, my points were added to the whole discussion and theme of this thread. You've switched this around & taken this way out of context and you're confusing me now. I couldn't care less if the likes of Steven and Matthew were evicted tomorrow, i'm not justifying their stay because i don't really like them, my posts were describing that the males aren't as boring & as bad as the OP made out. This doesn't mean to say i like them all, its just a fact. The same way i'd bring up Pauline, Toya, Helen and Jale if this thread was aimed at females being boring/bad this year, i dont like any of those 4 and it wouldn't bother me if they were evicted, but they bring discussion to the rest of the forum.

[Jemal]

Dexter not mentioned in your post, Sam is

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lol if you remember me last year you would know i dont like dexter.
Therefore your post is invalid brah.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Does anyone even remember anything Dexter said or did last year? I sure don't :joker: shows what a great character he was

[reece(:]

The males this year are awful, mostly fakes and bores. The only thing I can get behind is Mark & Matthew's friendship... otherwise, meh.

[Raph]

Almost none of these are talking points though. I'm sure there was RIVETING discussion over when Marlon tripped, what a ****ing deep moment!

:laugh2:

[Raph]

lol if you remember me last year you would know i dont like dexter.
Therefore your post is invalid brah.

Dexter was the worst housemate in BB history but still >>>> to any BB15 male housemate in terms of depth and character

[Jack_]

Thats because the males are providing, my points were added to the whole discussion and theme of this thread. You've switched this around & taken this way out of context and you're confusing me now. I couldn't care less if the likes of Steven and Matthew were evicted tomorrow, i'm not justifying their stay because i don't really like them, my posts were describing that the males aren't as boring & as bad as the OP made out. This doesn't mean to say i like them all, its just a fact. The same way i'd bring up Pauline, Toya, Helen and Jale if this thread was aimed at females being boring/bad this year, i dont like any of those 4 and it wouldn't bother me if they were evicted, but they bring discussion to the rest of the forum.

Hm okay but now you're confusing me, if you agree the people you listed aren't boring why would you want them evicted? :think:

I'm glad you can at least accept that even if you don't like some housemates they aren't boring though, some people are incapable of that


lol if you remember me last year you would know i dont like dexter.
Therefore your post is invalid brah.

I do remember that, but Dexter was still anything but crap :joker: Callum (and I liked him) wouldn't have even had a role in the show if it weren't for him

[Drew.]

Hm okay but now you're confusing me, if you agree the people you listed aren't boring why would you want them evicted? :think:

I'm glad you can at least accept that even if you don't like some housemates they aren't boring though, some people are incapable of that


I just tend not to enjoy watching people i dislike, i find it hard to want them to stay in the house.. probably let the dislike of them get the better of me but still, I'd rather be watching people i enjoy or either relate to.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Dexter was the worst housemate in BB history but still >>>> to any BB15 male housemate in terms of depth and character

:o worse than Siavash now?

[Raph]

:o worse than Siavash now?

Yeah I had already said this last year but Dexter I disliked even more than Siavash.. I never thought that could be possible.

The issue with this years male cast though is that they're so incredibly irrelevant that I can't even be bothered to strongly dislike them. They're just all so meh.

[Drew.]

I can't take that seriously when you've got a photo of Sam in your sig :laugh:

[Raph]

I can't take that seriously when you've got a photo of Sam in your sig :laugh:

I don't really understand the hate he gets on here. To me, he was by far the best winner of the show ever and definitely one of my favorite housemates of all time. He used to always make me laugh with his jokes last season, I loved his friendship with Callum, and I just thought he was a really well composed, nice guy. The way he took down Dexter too, when Dexter was picking on Callum. I just thought he was an amazing housemate, and far better than any male this year

[Mystic Mock]

BB8 had a really bad male cast, there was only Billi that was any good for them as he was a delusional prat like Ash this year.

[Razor]

Agree, I think it is pretty badly casted. Apart from Chris and Mark and Matthew. The girls have been casted we'll, although I wanted a fee more normal ones like Jale.


^ this

[Vicky.]

I don't really understand the hate he gets on here. To me, he was by far the best winner of the show ever and definitely one of my favorite housemates of all time. He used to always make me laugh with his jokes last season, I loved his friendship with Callum, and I just thought he was a really well composed, nice guy. The way he took down Dexter too, when Dexter was picking on Callum. I just thought he was an amazing housemate, and far better than any male this year

= he was welsh :laugh:

[smeagol]

wost female cast this yea. none are very likeable which must be a first

[Roy Mars III]

It's one of the worst casts overall. Women and Men are both terrible

[Raph]

= he was welsh :laugh:

That may have been the tiniest factor :hehe:

[Raph]

It's one of the worst casts overall. Women and Men are both terrible

So true, couldn't agree more.

[Vicky.]

In answer to the OP..depends what you define as worst really. I think pretty much all of the guys seem really laid back and they were correct in saying last night something about the girls being highly strung while they just want to relax and have fun.

This (for me) is why women tend to leave earlier. As generally the men on the show do just get on with it and relax, while the women rip each other apart, and thus come across as really unlikable.

[Josy]

Almost none of these are talking points though. I'm sure there was RIVETING discussion over when Marlon tripped, what a ****ing deep moment!

Every single thing on that list had one or more threads created about them, just because YOU don't think it was a talking point doesn't make it true.

[Samm]

At least some of the males try and have some laughs and fun.

There not funny at all :umm2:

[Josy]

There not funny at all :umm2:

Obviously some disagree with you

[Samm]

The only good Males this year are Matthew and Mark tbh

[Vicky.]

I'm actually finding Winston funny recently :facepalm:

[Brother Leon]

Winston and Mark are great fun and Ash and Marlon are always looking to have fun until it was required for them to destroy Toya for stepping out of line.

[Jemal]

Winston is a funny guy tbh.
MArks accent has its funny and annoying moments

[flamingGalah!]

What's with refering to them as a 'cast'?? They are housemates...

And it isn't just the worst male housemates, they are all pretty awful. There has never been a series that this far in I dislike so many of them...

[Ramsay]

= he was welsh :laugh:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs5/3515890_o.gif


But yeah i cant get into it at all. i tried to watch the first few days but i literally get so bored

[Mystic Mock]

I still standby that Ash is the only one that will standout for the guys (weather you like him or not) by the end of the series.

And Danielle is so overrated for the girls, if it wasn't for Ashleigh you wouldn't even know she existed.

[Mystic Mock]

I still standby that Ash is the only one that will standout for the guys (weather you like him or not) by the end of the series.

And Danielle is so overrated for the girls, if it wasn't for Ashleigh you wouldn't even know she existed.

[Gerbil901]

I still standby that Ash is the only one that will standout for the guys (weather you like him or not) by the end of the series.

And Danielle is so overrated for the girls, if it wasn't for Ashleigh you wouldn't even know she existed.

If it wasn't for Toya you wouldn't know that either of those girls existed.

[Mystic Mock]

If it wasn't for Toya you wouldn't know that either of those girls existed.

Your bang on tbh, but I do think Ashleigh will bring some entertainment to the table at least, Danielle just says stupid things and is pretending that she's something that she's not.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Every single thing on that list had one or more threads created about them, just because YOU don't think it was a talking point doesn't make it true.

Why are you always so quick to throw out the subjective card when someone disagrees with you? People try to actually have discussions with you but then you just go "well different people have different opinions" and offer no actual defense to your opinion.

What my point WAS going to be was that there needs to be depth to talking points. You know, so there are things to actually talk about. Whether or not there were threads about Marlon tripping doesn't mean it's a talking point. Conversation starts and ends with "LOL ouch he fell hard x" and there's nothing for people to actually talk about.

But I'm sure you'll just say different people have different definitions of talking points and dismiss what I have to say even further.

[Josy]

Why are you always so quick to throw out the subjective card when someone disagrees with you? People try to actually have discussions with you but then you just go "well different people have different opinions" and offer no actual defense to your opinion.

What my point WAS going to be was that there needs to be depth to talking points. You know, so there are things to actually talk about. Whether or not there were threads about Marlon tripping doesn't mean it's a talking point. Conversation starts and ends with "LOL ouch he fell hard x" and there's nothing for people to actually talk about.

But I'm sure you'll just say different people have different definitions of talking points and dismiss what I have to say even further.

I was on my phone when I replied with that one line comment.

I think you are concentrating far too much on one item from the list I posted tbh there were plenty more things on that list that did in fact create in depth talk points, the arguments just for an example we had multiple threads with lots of pages, I do see your point with the Marlon falling over thing but it was very selective to choose the most minor talking point from my list and go with that.

And I reply in depth to people that actually want a discussion without feeling the need to snipe and belittle whilst putting their point across.

[erinp5]

If there was ever a series crying out for new Hms it's this one .

[Razor]

I would like to see some more housemates to stir the pot so to speak.