Surrey : Paedophile who raped and killed boy, 14, is back on the streets

[arista]

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[Roaming the streets: Robert Oliver, 58, has been moved to a bail hostel in Guildford,
Surrey, which is just 500 yards from a primary school]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2673875/Outrage-Sidney-Cooke-gang-paedophile-raped-killed-boy-14-streets-months-jailed-letting-children-home.html#ixzz363213C46

[joeysteele]

Sorry but this man should never have been let out, he was part of a truly obnoxious group of people who were responsible for some really sickening crimes against young boys.

I recall at Uni researching and reading about about the historical murder,committed in 1985,of one his victims and it was horrendous to get through.

I really cannot hide the contempt that I think this man should be held in,a truly vile and rotten from the core individual.

[arista]

Sorry but this man should never have been let out, he was part of a truly obnoxious group of people who were responsible for some really sickening crimes against young boys.

I recall at Uni researching and reading about about the historical murder,committed in 1985,of one his victims and it was horrendous to get through.

I really cannot hide the contempt that I think this man should be held in,a truly vile and rotten from the core individual.


Bang On Right
Joey

[Ramsay]

How is this possible?

[Kazanne]

Sorry but this man should never have been let out, he was part of a truly obnoxious group of people who were responsible for some really sickening crimes against young boys.

I recall at Uni researching and reading about about the historical murder,committed in 1985,of one his victims and it was horrendous to get through.

I really cannot hide the contempt that I think this man should be held in,a truly vile and rotten from the core individual.

Amen to that Joey,bloody filth should be done away with

[Vicky.]

How is this possible?

Because so many believe rehabilitation for people like this is more important than punishment/keeping others safe...

[Achilles]

Why are people shocked that the Government have such lenient laws for paedophiles and child killers? :shrug:

[Kizzy]

Why are people shocked that the Government have such lenient laws for paedophiles and child killers? :shrug:

Don't get me started..... :idc:

[Samuel.]

I believe in rehabilitation for everybody, but this clearly isn't that

[Kizzy]

I'm surprised that people think it's possible :conf: ... It's like those gay rahab camps! Not possible!

[Nedusa]

I'm confused about this man, either he was part of the Paedo ring that abducted tortured, raped and murdered Jason swift or he wasn't.

Although he escaped a life sentence along with the others for this crime he was convicted of manslaughter and got 10 years.

So was he part of this vile ring or not. Looks to me like he was and the courts thought so too hence the conviction for manslaughter.

Easy to see why this man keeps his head down....question marks still remain over his degree of involvement.

[Niamh.]

Because so many believe rehabilitation for people like this is more important than punishment/keeping others safe...

This is what pisses me off, I say it everytime someone pleads the rehabilitation case for people like this. The only way to "test" if it works on these people is to send them back into society and risk the lives of innocent children, how is a guy who's done that to one child alreadys' life worth more than any innocent child out there?

[Cal.]

I'm surprised that people think it's possible :conf: ... It's like those gay rahab camps! Not possible!

I think rehabilitation is possible. I mean, look at Mary Bell, killed two little boys when she was eleven but now she's a mother and a grandmother.

[Jack_]

You can't stop someone being attracted to children, but I do think you can lower the chances of them acting on those urges if they've done so in the past. If anything I think the longer someone spends in prison only to then be released (it'd be different if they weren't ever but let's be real that isn't going to happen in most cases) the more chance they have of re-offending, and that goes for most crimes tbh

Anyway sexual attacks on children would be a lot less frequent if paedophillia wasn't such a taboo topic in society and they got more support so

[Kizzy]

I think rehabilitation is possible. I mean, look at Mary Bell, killed two little boys when she was eleven but now she's a mother and a grandmother.

She was a psychopath and a child, not an adult peadophile.

[Kizzy]

You can't stop someone being attracted to children, but I do think you can lower the chances of them acting on those urges if they've done so in the past. If anything I think the longer someone spends in prison only to then be released (it'd be different if they weren't ever but let's be real that isn't going to happen in most cases) the more chance they have of re-offending, and that goes for most crimes tbh

Anyway sexual attacks on children would be a lot less frequent if paedophillia wasn't such a taboo topic in society and they got more support so

If you're a sexual sadist that's always going to be a taboo I hope, this guy was part of an evil murderous gang of extreme sexual deviants... That will never change regardless of any interventions.

[Niamh.]

You can't stop someone being attracted to children, but I do think you can lower the chances of them acting on those urges if they've done so in the past. If anything I think the longer someone spends in prison only to then be released (it'd be different if they weren't ever but let's be real that isn't going to happen in most cases) the more chance they have of re-offending, and that goes for most crimes tbh

Anyway sexual attacks on children would be a lot less frequent if paedophillia wasn't such a taboo topic in society and they got more support so

No you can't stop people being attracted to children but that's not the issue, the issue is those people who act on it knowing full well that by doing so they are destroying an innocent childs life but doing it anyway. If every non-paedophile acted on all their urges the world would be full of rapists, but the vast majority of people know that violating a person like that is wrong and wouldn't do it.

[Achilles]

I believe in the death penalty for all violent crimes and sex crimes. The victim doesn't get a second chance so why should the criminal? The rights of all law abiding members of society are more important than the rights of one individual member of society. Death penalty for all whether it is a Fred West, a Savile or a Venables and Thompson.

[Verbal]

I believe in the death penalty for all violent crimes and sex crimes. The victim doesn't get a second chance so why should the criminal? The rights of all law abiding members of society are more important than the rights of one individual member of society. Death penalty for all whether it is a Fred West, a Savile or a Venables and Thompson.

My argument to that is that mental health care should be much better than it is, to pick these people out before they do anything. Nobody is born a crazed murderer.

Mental health care in the US is very poor, which is why you see so many lunatics shooting people every single week.

[Vanessa]

I believe in the death penalty for all violent crimes and sex crimes. The victim doesn't get a second chance so why should the criminal? The rights of all law abiding members of society are more important than the rights of one individual member of society. Death penalty for all whether it is a Fred West, a Savile or a Venables and Thompson.

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[Ninastar]

yes, lets blame society for pedophiles who act on innocent children... nothing to do with them going ahead with it out of their own choice

[GypsyGoth]

Support should be given to the victims, not the pedophiles or potential pedophiles. They should be given a suicide booth so they can go die.

[Kizzy]

Support should be given to the victims, not the pedophiles or potential pedophiles. They should be given a suicide booth so they can go die.

This makes no sense, you're either a paedophile or you're not. The question is are you a predatory paedophile? unless they've committed an offence then they're innocent people with a deviant sexual urge.
In this case it's clear he did act and in the most heinous way possible, I have no qualms in saying I wish they could chemically and physically castrate for these crimes.
Or labotomise them.

[Niamh.]

This makes no sense, you're either a paedophile or you're not. The question is are you a predatory paedophile? unless they've committed an offence then they're innocent people with a deviant sexual urge.
In this case it's clear he did act and in the most heinous way possible, I have no qualms in saying I wish they could chemically and physically castrate for these crimes.
Or labotomise them.

I agree with that, someone who feels such urges but has never acted on them has done nothing wrong, you can't help what or who you're attracted to but you can help what you choose to act on.

[GypsyGoth]

This makes no sense, you're either a paedophile or you're not. The question is are you a predatory paedophile? unless they've committed an offence then they're innocent people with a deviant sexual urge.
In this case it's clear he did act and in the most heinous way possible, I have no qualms in saying I wish they could chemically and physically castrate for these crimes.
Or labotomise them.

If it makes no sense to you I shall explain it clearer.

I think those planning to molest children should go and ****ing die. And that's what it is, child molestation, it's not about some poor adult being attracted to children.

But I'm sure there will be enough left over for you to do your experiments on, or for Jack to take to group therapy.

[Benjamin]

If it makes no sense to you I shall explain it clearer.

I think those planning to molest children should go and ****ing die. And that's what it is, child molestation, it's not about some poor adult being attracted to children.

But I'm sure there will be enough left over for you to do your experiments on, or for Jack to take to group therapy.

Agree with GG here.

[Kizzy]

Doesn't matter if you agree or not there's still no such thing as a potential peadophile.. it's like saying ben's potentially gay, or I'm potentially straight.
I agree with gg on the predatory peadophiles 100% too.