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Yaki da
01-07-2014, 09:40 PM
An 18 year old girl holding court in the manner she did was just superb. And she got exactly what she wanted

Josy
01-07-2014, 09:45 PM
Yeah she did get what she wanted but there was four against Helen not Just Ashleigh.

She also isn't going to be any less miserable because Helens still there til the end

Will.
01-07-2014, 09:48 PM
She's impressive/strong and opinionated/tactical in the house for an 18 year old.

Verbal
01-07-2014, 09:48 PM
An 18 year old girl holding court in the manner she did was just superb. And she got exactly what she wanted

She won't ultimately get what she wants though. Matthew is out on Friday and as soon as those numbers come up i'm on the phone to stick my oar into it as well.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
01-07-2014, 09:49 PM
nah she's vile.

Yoshi888
01-07-2014, 09:49 PM
Ash will be out and she shall get her wish

billy123
01-07-2014, 09:50 PM
She just wrote her own eviction notice how is that impressive :shrug:

smudgie
01-07-2014, 09:51 PM
Best strategic game playing so far.

She led those girls well.:dance:

Yaki da
01-07-2014, 09:54 PM
She just wrote her own eviction notice how is that impressive :shrug:

Please. No one knows how evictions play out from week to week

Yaki da
01-07-2014, 09:54 PM
Yeah she did get what she wanted but there was four against Helen not Just Ashleigh.

She also isn't going to be any less miserable because Helens still there til the end

Had she not been there, Helen would have taken over the discussion

Calderyon
01-07-2014, 09:55 PM
She did have some kind of persuasion on getting Ash out, but next week she is in huge danger of being evicted and the only one that she might have a chance against is leaving on Friday.

Well, maybe Danielle too, but thatīs it.

In way on her mind she on her own mind she hugely upset Helen (which was her main target) and at the same time avenged Toya.

But in she killed her own chances of surviving next week, meaning she committed a suicide of her chances of winning.

billy123
01-07-2014, 09:56 PM
Please. No one knows how evictions play out from week to weekShe made herself unpopular inside and outside the house and the only person she might survive against in an eviction is going on friday.
Yes genius plan that is very impressive.

Not the brightest strategy.

Verbal
01-07-2014, 09:57 PM
Actually tonights episode is the first time i've been impressed by her. If she hadn't spent the rest of the series sulking about like Kevin & Perry's best mate, I would probably quite like her.

Yaki da
01-07-2014, 09:58 PM
She made herself unpopular inside and outside the house and the only person she might survive against in an eviction is going on friday.
Yes genius plan that is very impressive.

What strategy.

All she wanted was to get Ash up. And her popularity is going up (characters always have detractors - long time problem with this show).

For all we know Helen will have her finalist status taken away from her. Got to play it by ear

But some people can't give this girl any credit. :cheer2:

Samm
01-07-2014, 09:59 PM
Best ever game player in BB

TheElusiveChanteuse
01-07-2014, 10:00 PM
We finally get a game player and someone who can take down Helen and people complain. Lawd.

Cal.
01-07-2014, 10:00 PM
Best ever game player in BB

Preach

Calderyon
01-07-2014, 10:02 PM
But Helen still has Final pass and Ashleigh doesnīt. So unless Helen decides to walk next week, itīs going to be Ashleigh the Toyan going home.

TheElusiveChanteuse
01-07-2014, 10:03 PM
But Helen still has Final pass and Ashleigh doesnīt. So unless Helen decides to walk next week, itīs going to be Ashleigh the Toyan going home.

Nah I reckon Kim and Marlon are in trouble next week.

Brother Leon
01-07-2014, 10:04 PM
You would think they were picking 3 to put up and she managed to sway them to pick Ash. They could only pick 3 people to save from Noms...chances were Ash wasn't being saved.

It's hardly a masterclass.

Josy
01-07-2014, 10:04 PM
We finally get a game player and someone who can take down Helen and people complain. Lawd.

She can't take down Helen though and that's just it, she only got Ash up and he will go, Helen will still be there regardless :shrug:

Jords
01-07-2014, 10:05 PM
Yeah she did get what she wanted but there was four against Helen not Just Ashleigh.

She also isn't going to be any less miserable because Helens still there til the end

Ashleigh manipulated the situation so that the HMs believed they had to pick between Marlon and Ash - knowing that Marlon would be the majority choice. Jale quite annoyingly suggested playing 'devil's advocate' by suggesting picking between Chris and Steven but she managed to shot it down within a minute. She made it look like her and Danielle were really on board with saving Steven and Marlon, as not to look selfish and to get what they really want, a nominated and hopefully evicted Ash.

Great work and deserves a lot of credit. Good viewing watching it all plan out too. Yeah shes miserable but watching the likes of Helen, Ash, Steven etc. makes me just as miserable :laugh:

Marsh.
01-07-2014, 10:05 PM
A bitchy, two faced, spoilt, grudge bearing twatty child hates a bitchy, two faced, grudge bearing twatty adult. Hardly impressive.

waterhog
01-07-2014, 10:06 PM
An 18 year old girl holding court in the manner she did was just superb. And she got exactly what she wanted

i am very impressed with her - to prove my point i am going to di a poem on her and i am sure it will end in a marriage proposal.

Kazanne
01-07-2014, 10:07 PM
Well if by some fluke Mathew happened to go on Friday,wonder how great she will feel then!!

Marsh.
01-07-2014, 10:07 PM
I loved that she wanted to act like Queen Bee and have people meltdown. Good on all the boys for not giving her what she wanted.

I loved Ash pointing the truth out to her telling her Big Brother put them all up for eviction. The girl's only job was to save three. So him being up is not down to them.

She didn't like that. :joker:

GypsyGoth
01-07-2014, 10:07 PM
Well if by some fluke Mathew happened to go on Friday,wonder how great she will feel then!!

That would be a great BB moment :D

TheElusiveChanteuse
01-07-2014, 10:08 PM
She can't take down Helen though and that's just it, she only got Ash up and he will go, Helen will still be there regardless :shrug:

She can't get Helen evicted but she pulled Kim and Jale back from Helens rectum and shown Helen has no power within the house anymore.

You would think they were picking 3 to put up and she managed to sway them to pick Ash. They could only pick 3 people to save from Noms...chances were Ash wasn't being saved.

It's hardly a masterclass.

If Ashleigh wasn't there Danielle and Kim would have swayed and Ash would be safe IMO.

Josy
01-07-2014, 10:08 PM
I loved that she wanted to act like Queen Bee and have people meltdown. Good on all the boys for not giving her what she wanted.

I loved Ash pointing the truth out to her telling her Big Brother put them all up for eviction. The girl's only job was to save three. So him being up is not down to them.

She didn't like that. :joker:

:joker:

She was still miserable in the bedroom even after she got what she wanted...

Alf
01-07-2014, 10:10 PM
Best ever game player in BB
Poppet

http://i1.cdnds.net/11/36/realitytv_bb_2011_housemates_aaron_allavd_morgan.j pg

Josy
01-07-2014, 10:11 PM
Poppet

http://i1.cdnds.net/11/36/realitytv_bb_2011_housemates_aaron_allavd_morgan.j pg

Good ol Aaron :love:

Calderyon
01-07-2014, 10:13 PM
Nah I reckon Kim and Marlon are in trouble next week.

Why? Personally and logically, if either of or both of Danielle and Ashleigh are up, one of them is definitely gone. And going by the looks of it, they both will be up.

Marsh.
01-07-2014, 10:14 PM
:joker:

She was still miserable in the bedroom even after she got what she wanted...

She'll never be happy. :joker:

The girl doesn't know what she wants and it's got to the stage where everything she says she hates about the others applies to herself. :laugh:

Yaki da
01-07-2014, 10:14 PM
She doesn't want to get over confident. She's worried about Matthew

Marsh.
01-07-2014, 10:15 PM
Best ever game player in BB

Yeah how cunning of Ashleigh to put Ash up for eviction.


Oh wait.... That was Big Brother. :joker:

Brother Leon
01-07-2014, 10:15 PM
She can't get Helen evicted but she pulled Kim and Jale back from Helens rectum and shown Helen has no power within the house anymore.



If Ashleigh wasn't there Danielle and Kim would have swayed and Ash would be safe IMO.

At the end of the day BB fixed it so one of the Boys would leave this week. If she had managed to get Ash up in a normal nominations way then fair play, but all she did was make sure Danielle backed her in saying Ash shouldn't be saved and therefore made it close to impossible to save him regardless of what Helen done, because it would never be close unanimous vote.

Johnnyuk123
01-07-2014, 10:17 PM
She's impressive/strong and opinionated/tactical in the house for an 18 year old.

This 100%

Amy Jade
01-07-2014, 10:20 PM
She made herself unpopular inside and outside the house and the only person she might survive against in an eviction is going on friday.
Yes genius plan that is very impressive.

Not the brightest strategy.

huh? her strategy was to get Ash up and it worked perfectly.

Even if she went the next week she was successful in getting Ash up and most likely out.

Josy
01-07-2014, 10:22 PM
huh? her strategy was to get Ash up and it worked perfectly.

Even if she went the next week she was successful in getting Ash up and most likely out.

She never got Ash up. BB put all the males up.

Ash was never going to be saved.

Why people are overlooking that simple fact confuses me.....

Johnnyuk123
01-07-2014, 10:22 PM
huh? her strategy was to get Ash up and it worked perfectly.

Even if she went the next week she was successful in getting Ash up and most likely out.

Ashleigh did well.

Marsh.
01-07-2014, 10:22 PM
huh? her strategy was to get Ash up and it worked perfectly.

Even if she went the next week she was successful in getting Ash up and most likely out.

Ash was already up. Nothing to do with Ashleigh.

RodHull
01-07-2014, 10:23 PM
:joker:

She was still miserable in the bedroom even after she got what she wanted...

Thats cause shes always miserable, why people want to watch a bratty little princess bitching about someone 24/7 in a corner is beyond me. Shes so boring its untrue.

And anyone who thinks Kim was swayable is kidding themselves. Kim is 100% playing the game, doesnt give a toss about Helen or Ashleigh, she just voted with the side she thought the public would sympathise with. As others have said Ash was always up, Ashleighs original 'plan' was to save Mat, Chris and Chrismas, which they singularly failed in doing, indeed they ended up saving Marlon (who they hate apparently) just to spite Helen... sad really.

Moosething
01-07-2014, 10:28 PM
If she wasn't there, I think that Helen would have taken control thus Ash being saved

joeysteele
01-07-2014, 10:29 PM
Horrible girl, she got what she wanted this week, however I hope she gets a backlash next week and finds herself gone then too.
I am not impressed by her and wasn't tonight in anyway impressed with her smugness in the diary room.

Just a really awful person to be around in my view and I hope it's a case of another good riddance next week as to her.

Marsh.
01-07-2014, 10:31 PM
If she wasn't there, I think that Helen would have taken control thus Ash being saved

No. Surprisingly, unlike Ashleigh, Helen wanted to be fair and make sure everyone was involved in the decisions. Ashleigh tried to get everyone behind Helen's back.

Kazanne
01-07-2014, 10:36 PM
No. Surprisingly, unlike Ashleigh, Helen wanted to be fair and make sure everyone was involved in the decisions. Ashleigh tried to get everyone behind Helen's back.

Tis the truth:smug:

Johnnyuk123
01-07-2014, 10:37 PM
Helen wanting to save Ash. The lady in red does protest too much!

RodHull
01-07-2014, 10:37 PM
Just to be clear ASHLEIGH didnt not get what she wanted... she wanted her 3 favourites safe. When it became clear Kim and Jale held the power they basically did a lib-dem coalition flip flop and saved Marlon in order to prevent Ash being saved.

Pretty sad really that just to spiteful to Helen they were prepared to save someone they hate.

The only person in that room who had a plan and got it to work perfectly was Kim... and nobody even noticed mwuhahaha

Johnnyuk123
01-07-2014, 10:38 PM
Marlon revealing himself big time in VT.

Marsh.
01-07-2014, 10:41 PM
Just to be clear ASHLEIGH didnt not get what she wanted... she wanted her 3 favourites safe. When it became clear Kim and Jale held the power they basically did a lib-dem coalition flip flop and saved Marlon in order to prevent Ash being saved.

Pretty sad really that just to spiteful to Helen they were prepared to save someone they hate.

The only person in that room who had a plan and got it to work perfectly was Kim... and nobody even noticed mwuhahaha

This. :clap1:

Forgetmenot
01-07-2014, 11:10 PM
Well if she is this hard faced and sarcastic at 18 whst will she be like in ten years time! Sulky, spoilt,dour faced, bitchy, snide and never entertaining.crying to go home but now thinks its smart to follow Toya 's advice, honestly, I despair!

Yaki da
02-07-2014, 12:04 AM
No. Surprisingly, unlike Ashleigh, Helen wanted to be fair and make sure everyone was involved in the decisions. Ashleigh tried to get everyone behind Helen's back.

PMSL. Had Helen got her way it would have been Steven, Marlon and Ash saved. And she would have got her way had Ashleigh not been there and it had only been Danielle.

jet
02-07-2014, 12:08 AM
Ashleigh manipulated the situation so that the HMs believed they had to pick between Marlon and Ash - knowing that Marlon would be the majority choice. Jale quite annoyingly suggested playing 'devil's advocate' by suggesting picking between Chris and Steven but she managed to shot it down within a minute. She made it look like her and Danielle were really on board with saving Steven and Marlon, as not to look selfish and to get what they really want, a nominated and hopefully evicted Ash.

Great work and deserves a lot of credit. Good viewing watching it all plan out too. Yeah shes miserable but watching the likes of Helen, Ash, Steven etc. makes me just as miserable :laugh:

That is exactly what happened. She manipulated the whole thing from beginning to end. There is a lot of re - writing of history going on here. Funny to watch the squirming and twisting. :laugh:

Marsh.
02-07-2014, 12:23 AM
PMSL. Had Helen got her way it would have been Steven, Marlon and Ash saved. And she would have got her way had Ashleigh not been there and it had only been Danielle.

Yes, of course there'd have been different scenarios if each girl had got their own way. That's perfectly natural and normal.

The difference is Helen didn't rally Jale and Kimberley to purposely vote against Ashleigh and Danielle's preferences.

Yaki da
02-07-2014, 12:25 AM
Yes, of course there'd have been different scenarios if each girl had got their own way. That's perfectly natural and normal.

The difference is Helen didn't rally Jale and Kimberley to purposely vote against Ashleigh and Danielle's preferences.

Helen thought she had it all going her own way already and wouldn't need to.

rionablue
02-07-2014, 12:35 AM
She is going to get a shock when she is up for eviction next week and it will be all her own fault. She has become a spiteful little bitch and a discredit to the Irish. I have no IDEA how she even got into the house. No pool party cos of her boyfriend and no looking at the strippers cos of her boyfriend. Ash was going to be up this week no matter what she said cos Kim and Jale weren't going to save him. I hope she just walks out of there and get the first plane home. Sorry

jet
02-07-2014, 12:38 AM
Yes, of course there'd have been different scenarios if each girl had got their own way. That's perfectly natural and normal.

The difference is Helen didn't rally Jale and Kimberley to purposely vote against Ashleigh and Danielle's preferences.

Did you not hear Helen boast on several occasions that she would get her way in a threatening manner?
You are also overlooking the fact that the girls like Ash the least of the boys anyway!

Yaki da
02-07-2014, 12:41 AM
She is going to get a shock when she is up for eviction next week and it will be all her own fault. She has become a spiteful little bitch and a discredit to the Irish. I have no IDEA how she even got into the house. No pool party cos of her boyfriend and no looking at the strippers cos of her boyfriend. Ash was going to be up this week no matter what she said cos Kim and Jale weren't going to save him. I hope she just walks out of there and get the first plane home. Sorry

I think she's waiting to be evicted anyway.

And she got into the house because of what she pulled off tonight, which was great fun to watch.

Marsh.
02-07-2014, 02:25 AM
You are also overlooking the fact that the girls like Ash the least of the boys anyway!

No. I think you'll find that was actually my point.

Ashleigh or no Ashleigh, plan or no plan. Ash was NEVER being saved.

So this master plan to put Ash up by the super Ashleigh was bull.

Mystic Mock
02-07-2014, 02:35 AM
Nice hair, nice legs, nice ass, a pretty face, and a bitch at it.

What's not to be impressed by?

newsbb
02-07-2014, 02:36 AM
she managed to put his nemesis up even over the pshycho witch that is helen and ger ugly sidecicks! SHES AMAZIN

Marsh.
02-07-2014, 02:36 AM
The accent. :hehe:

lovebigbrotheruk
02-07-2014, 02:57 AM
I'm loving her from the clips I've seen.

Yaki da
02-07-2014, 02:57 AM
No. I think you'll find that was actually my point.

Ashleigh or no Ashleigh, plan or no plan. Ash was NEVER being saved.

So this master plan to put Ash up by the super Ashleigh was bull.

Come off it. Kimberly would have got Steven safe, Jale would have got Marlon safe and Helen would have got Ash safe, and Danielle would not have got a look in.

US Nacho
02-07-2014, 03:05 AM
Her one and only personality trait that she's shown since the show started is hating Helen in private behind her back. What is there to like? Even though Helen is the worst kind of person, there's nothing admirable about crawling into a corner with Danielle and whispering about how much you hate her. Enough is enough, we get it.

Yaki da
02-07-2014, 04:35 AM
Her one and only personality trait that she's shown since the show started is hating Helen in private behind her back.

It is amazing how you can come to that view when anyone watching can see that Helen knows full well Ashleigh can't stand her. She does and says things right in front of her that lets Helen know what she thinks.


What is there to like?

Confident, clever and, for me, funny... Some of you are clinging on to this idea that because she has a bitch with Danielle about the others (Mostly about Helen/Ash) that somehow she's a coward. But they all know full well how she feels about them. And her opinions on them are right. They are vulgar and disgusting.


Even though Helen is the worst kind of person, there's nothing admirable about crawling into a corner with Danielle and whispering about how much you hate her. Enough is enough, we get it.

Seems like a good idea to me if you feel the need to vent your frustration of living with someone you don't like. What's the alternative if you can't bite your tongue? Go to the diary room like Chris and assassinate their character to the viewing audience? Is that any better? Scream in their face like Helen?

DrunkerThanMoses
02-07-2014, 04:47 AM
She is pathetic, cant wait for her to be gone next week

jegmeister
02-07-2014, 05:17 AM
I find the hypocritical inconsistency breath taking OP. I agree with you.

There are some people - particularly on a Forum that shall not be named * coughs digital spy coughs* that is currently swamped with threads calling her "an evil witch", saying she will be up as soon as she's out etc.

I think I must be living in a parallel universe. I don't expect people to be Mother Theresa and if they do anything that offends some unrealistic morality code, start jumping up and down, change my mind 180 degrees and want them evicted. It's amazing how easy it is to manipulate the audience on this show.

Helen's fake tears and phoney "change" in her behaviour is all down to the warnings she has had. As far as I am concerned, she shouldn't still be there. She has had more than enough warnings to have been booted out but the producers are more concerned about ratings than what is right.

I like Ashleigh. She is doing exactly what I would do - fighting back against the nasty bully and beating her at her own game. If that is being spiteful and malicious, well you can add my name to the list of people who are spiteful and malicious. Unless you're a committed Christian and don't believe in it, I can't for the life of me see how anyone in a similar situation to people in that house would not want revenge - it wouldn't be normal otherwise.

It serves Helen right. She has got exactly what she deserves and it is Ashleigh who has engineered it. Without her direct involvement, Helen would have got her wish and that slimeball Ash would have crawled back up Helen's backside for another week.

I am loving every minute of it.

waterhog
02-07-2014, 08:08 AM
An 18 year old girl holding court in the manner she did was just superb. And she got exactly what she wanted

back you all the way - just wrote a poem on how perceptive she is. she is good stuff and it is amazing she is only 18.

camertone
02-07-2014, 08:39 AM
ashleigh is just as vile as helen, maybe even more so..

aimat2
02-07-2014, 08:53 AM
Ashleighs brill shes got Helen ...Helen knows Ashleigh will not back down so cant rule her

karezza
02-07-2014, 08:54 AM
I hate everything about Ashleigh.

:yuk:

Kazanne
02-07-2014, 09:00 AM
Yes, of course there'd have been different scenarios if each girl had got their own way. That's perfectly natural and normal.

The difference is Helen didn't rally Jale and Kimberley to purposely vote against Ashleigh and Danielle's preferences.

:clap1::clap1::clap1::clap1:

Kazanne
02-07-2014, 09:02 AM
back you all the way - just wrote a poem on how perceptive she is. she is good stuff and it is amazing she is only 18.

How did she get what she wanted? Ash was put up by BB and although it's probable he will go,IF he doesn't how will THAT sit with her?

CorfuOrBust
02-07-2014, 09:12 AM
She is going to get a shock when she is up for eviction next week and it will be all her own fault. She has become a spiteful little bitch and a discredit to the Irish. I have no IDEA how she even got into the house. No pool party cos of her boyfriend and no looking at the strippers cos of her boyfriend. Ash was going to be up this week no matter what she said cos Kim and Jale weren't going to save him. I hope she just walks out of there and get the first plane home. Sorry
You need not worry about her becoming a discredit to the Irish because she is actually BRITISH!!

Just because you have an Irish accent doesn't make you Irish.

Niamh.
02-07-2014, 09:23 AM
You need not worry about her becoming a discredit to the Irish because she is actually BRITISH!!

Well, technically speaking she's both or either

rionablue
02-07-2014, 10:02 AM
You need not worry about her becoming a discredit to the Irish because she is actually BRITISH!!

I know technically she is British but she lives in Northern Ireland which is on the island of Ireland and she was called Northern Irish Lass therefore Ireland does feature

Niamh.
02-07-2014, 10:05 AM
I know technically she is British but she lives in Northern Ireland which is on the island of Ireland and she was called Northern Irish Lass therefore Ireland does feature

Yeah that's like saying someone from Wales or Scotland isn't Welsh or Scottish

Beso
02-07-2014, 10:07 AM
She was fantastic last night.

She stuck up for what she believed to be right and her bravery really pleased me.Her little sides kick denielle was also great and backed her when needed.

They planted the seeds and followed through on their plan brilliantly.

Honestly, I cant sday how pleased I was to see this happen and she has now become my firm favourite..

CorfuOrBust
02-07-2014, 10:24 AM
Yeah that's like saying someone from Wales or Scotland isn't Welsh or Scottish
Not really because Wales and Scotland have no division in them.

Don't want to really over debate this and don't want to be too over critical, was just saying that she's not Irish and would not be able to discredit Ireland.

Those that live in Ireland do not class those in Northern Ireland as Irish, according to my Irish relatives.

It's all going too far now and if she want's to say she's Irish I don't care, can't stand her anyway!!

Even now people from Cornwall do not want to be called English and want their own little country down there and call themselves Cornish!! The world's going mad!!

Yaki da
02-07-2014, 10:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eoim40F4wZ4&list=UUOIeG57ze1ZVvfpyJIloNrw

The end of this video

"Aw, Kimberly has such a problem. Poor Kim" followed by a sarcastic pout

What a superbitch :cheer2:

Niamh.
02-07-2014, 10:27 AM
Not really because Wales and Scotland have no division in them.

Don't want to really over debate this and don't want to be too over critical, was just saying that she's not Irish and would not be able to discredit Ireland.

Those that live in Ireland do not class those in Northern Ireland as Irish, according to my Irish relatives.

It's all going too far now and if she want's to say she's Irish I don't care, can't stand her anyway!!

Even now people from Cornwall do not want to be called English and want their own little country down there and call themselves Cornish!! The world's going mad!!

Well I am Irish and I would class her as Irish since she lives on the Island of Ireland, I would see Northern Ireland in very much the same way as I see Wales and Scotland, part of Britain but a country in their own right. Don't you know that Rory McIlroy is going to be playing for Ireland in the next Olympics :nono:

kefln
02-07-2014, 10:29 AM
I was really impressed last night, she went from b*tching in the corner, to taking control.

To put it another way, two weeks ago would anyone of guessed that Ashleigh would have taken control of a girls meeting?

Two weeks ago would anyone have believed that in a critical conversation between the girls, that Helen would have been submissive to Ashleigh?

Helen went into that meeting thinking that she had Jale and Kim in her pocket, but the reality was that Ashleigh had done alot more ground work.

The likes of Helen only rule when people are afraid, they like to shout everyone down. Ashleigh turned that situation on its head, she used calm and logic.

Thumbs up to the girl.

CorfuOrBust
02-07-2014, 10:38 AM
Well I am Irish and I would class her as Irish since she lives on the Island of Ireland, I would see Northern Ireland in very much the same way as I see Wales and Scotland, part of Britain but a country in their own right. Don't you know that Rory McIlroy is going to be playing for Ireland in the next Olympics :nono:

Sorry I do not know who that is and had to google him and it says his nationality is Northern Irish and not British, so my bad :shocked:

Maybe the best thing is for The Queen to give N.I. back!! Anyway, I'm not posting about this again as I don't want to be told off for going way off topic too much.

Either way I'm certainly not impressed with her. :notimpressed:

Niamh.
02-07-2014, 10:43 AM
I was really impressed last night, she went from b*tching in the corner, to taking control.

To put it another way, two weeks ago would anyone of guessed that Ashleigh would have taken control of a girls meeting?

Two weeks ago would anyone have believed that in a critical conversation between the girls, that Helen would have been submissive to Ashleigh?

Helen went into that meeting thinking that she had Jale and Kim in her pocket, but the reality was that Ashleigh had done alot more ground work.

The likes of Helen only rule when people are afraid, they like to shout everyone down. Ashleigh turned that situation on its head, she used calm and logic.

Thumbs up to the girl.

Yep, she followed through which I like, she really took control of that whole task.

kefln
02-07-2014, 10:49 AM
I think people have this idea that "fighting" is all about shouting, especially in BB.

But its not. Fighting can also be about undermining and that is whats just happened to Helen. There was no row, she just got the rug pulled from under her.

Niamh.
02-07-2014, 10:50 AM
I think people have this idea that "fighting" is all about shouting, especially in BB.

But its not. Fighting can also be about undermining and that is whats just happened to Helen. There was no row, she just got the rug pulled from under her.

Which is so much more interesting

Cherie
02-07-2014, 10:51 AM
I liked the way she took control of the whole task and the others just sat back and let her, was that was more to do with them worrying that the boys were watching the decision making process? but Helen really surprised me by taking a back seat.

Niamh.
02-07-2014, 10:57 AM
I liked the way she took control of the whole task and the others just sat back and let her, was that was more to do with them worrying that the boys were watching the decision making process? but Helen really surprised me by taking a back seat.

People will probably think I'm mad for saying this but I sort of got the vibe that Helen wants Ashleigh to like her. I wonder does she see her as being everything she wants to be but isn't. Ashleigh is the only one who's given Helen the cold shoulder and a genuine reason to dislike her but Helen says nothing to her, never attacks her like she did with others who gave her little to know provocation. I even saw Helen touch Ashleighs arm to try and comfort her when she got upset at Chris speech :think:

kefln
02-07-2014, 11:03 AM
People will probably think I'm mad for saying this but I sort of got the vibe that Helen wants Ashleigh to like her. I wonder does she see her as being everything she wants to be but isn't. Ashleigh is the only one who's given Helen the cold shoulder and a genuine reason to dislike her but Helen says nothing to her, never attacks her like she did with others who gave her little to know provocation. I even saw Helen touch Ashleighs arm to try and comfort her when she got upset at Chris speech :think:

Good point.

Of any of the girls Ashleigh has never really been part of the "Helen" crew. And she's not afraid to show it. I'd imagine most believed that Toya was her protection. But that doesn't seem to be the case. Ashleigh has pulled the other girls to her. Most of the guys seem to like her, apart from "the crew", remember Ash's hate speech?

I could well imagine Helen wondering about who is the new "queen bee"