Steven and Kimberly make up vid

[erinp5]

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[Vanessa]

:facepalm:

[Jamie585]

Poor Kim

[rionablue]

I cant see the video but if I was Kim I would find it very hard to forgive him for not backing her up. The one thing I noticed is that as far as I could see the cameras were turned off in the morgue when Steven hugged Ashleigh. If tonight showed nothing else it showed that unlike what has been portrayed up to now Kim DOES show emotion and DOES have true feelings. Its just she builds a wall around them

[Yaki da]

"I've been there. I've felt it. I hated it and it nearly destroyed me and I would never want to inflict that pain on anyone else"

Phoney and nauseating.

Both of them.

[Yaki da]

"You'll never lose me unless you make it happen"

And that's just sinister.

[Achilles]

The worst thing about it all is that because so many people are under the impression that Kimberly has a "boyfriend" they will not have sympathy for Kimberly.
Imagine for a moment we KNOW for a fact the boyfriend of 3 years story is bull****. Suppose the reality is that for the last few years she has gone through hell with relationships and that is why Kimbot was created.
Steven the slimy toad comes along, spends weeks trying to break down Kimbot, Kimberly finally decides to turn off Kimbot and be herself, only to get hurt by the slimy toad Steven yet again. That would be very sad. But there will be zero sympathy because the story we are fed is that "Kimberly has a boyfriend of 3 years". No proof, just a story sold to us and we lap it up just like every other story.

[Yaki da]

The worst thing about it all is that because so many people are under the impression that Kimberly has a "boyfriend" they will not have sympathy for Kimberly.
Imagine for a moment we KNOW for a fact the boyfriend of 3 years story is bull****. Suppose the reality is that for the last few years she has gone through hell with relationships and that is why Kimbot was created.
Steven the slimy toad comes along, spends weeks trying to break down Kimbot, Kimberly finally decides to turn off Kimbot and be herself, only to get hurt by the slimy toad Steven yet again. That would be very sad. But there will be zero sympathy because the story we are fed is that "Kimberly has a boyfriend of 3 years". No proof, just a story sold to us and we lap it up just like every other story.

We know she lives with this guy Sasha (Tamara confirmed her telling her this) and he said she had been his girlfriend for 3 years (On BOTS) and he was there on launch night to see her off and introduced himself to Steven's mum as her boyfriend.

It's all a bit dodgy isn't it?

And that moment at the end of the video...

Steven: "You're probably going to get out of here and never speak to me again"

Kimberly: (exaggerated) "Whaaaaaaaaaat! At least you still think I'm ruthless. *giggle* at least someone does."

Something isn't right here.

[Achilles]

We know she lives with this guy Sasha (Tamara confirmed her telling her this) and he said she had been his girlfriend for 3 years (On BOTS) and he was there on launch night to see her off and introduced himself to Steven's mum as her boyfriend.

It's all a bit dodgy isn't it?

And that moment at the end of the video...

Steven: "You're probably going to get out of here and never speak to me again"

Kimberly: (exaggerated) "Whaaaaaaaaaat! At least you still think I'm ruthless. *giggle* at least someone does."

Something isn't right here.

What is the agenda of the producers of Bit on the Side? Not just regarding Kimberly but for all housemates and the Big Brother show.

Everything you reference comes from Bit on the Side.

Suppose there is no "does Kimberly have a boyfriend"? or "does Steven have a girlfriend"?. What we are left with is the relationship between the 2 of them in the house. If producers deem it to be not "spicy" enough, boring, not interesting enough and doesn't live up to their showmance expectations (we know how much the producers love a *******ing showmance), they can manipulate it and make it more entertaining. Throwing in a "Kimberly has a boyfriend of 3 years" immediately causes controversy and people take more of an interest in it.

If friends and family come out and deny she has a boyfriend, why would that be of any interest to the producers of Big Brother?

[Yaki da]

What is the agenda of the producers of Bit on the Side? Not just regarding Kimberly but for all housemates and the Big Brother show.

Everything you reference comes from Bit on the Side.

There's a picture of him at the launch night. He was on the phone on BOTS. She clearly has lived with him.

Suppose there is no "does Kimberly have a boyfriend"? or "does Steven have a girlfriend"?. What we are left with is the relationship between the 2 of them in the house. If producers deem it to be not "spicy" enough, boring, not interesting enough and doesn't live up to their showmance expectations (we know how much the producers love a *******ing showmance), they can manipulate it and make it more entertaining. Throwing in a "Kimberly has a boyfriend of 3 years" immediately causes controversy and people take more of an interest in it.

They didn't throw that in though. Steven's mum met him on the launch night. He phoned in and confirmed it and said Kimberly was just doing what she's good at. Is everyone involved in some conspiracy against Kimberly here? Including the guy who saw her off on launch night and she lives with?

If friends and family come out and deny she has a boyfriend, why would that be of any interest to the producers of Big Brother?

According to her in this video she hardly has any friends.

[Achilles]

Over the past 3 years how many men do you think Kimberly has had sex with?
Over the past 3 years how many women do you think Kimberly has had sex with?
Has the man known as "Sasha" had sex with Kimberly?
If the number of men/women Kimberly has had sex with over the past 3 years is 2 or more does the man known as "Sasha" know about the 2 or more and is he bothered about the 2 or more?
If the man known as "Sasha" knows about the 2 or more and is not bothered by the 2 or more, then it is completely irrelevant what label you assign to the relationship between Kimberly and the man known as "Sasha".
The picture Big Brother paint for the audience is that Kimberly and the man known as "Sasha" have been in an exclusive relationship for over 3 years.
Kimberly said to Steven that she was "dating" and had no commitments, in the very first week.
The audience come to the conclusion that Kimberly was lying when she said she was "dating" and had no commitments because they have been shown a picture of Kimberly and the man known as "Sasha" in a 3 year exclusive relationship.
Nothing that the man known as "Sasha" has done or said goes against what Kimberly said. Big Brother manipulate the audience into thinking it does.

[JTM45]

Your post sounds a tad obsessive Achilles! :laugh:
Why are you that interested in the relationship status of a complete stranger ?

It's pretty obvious from the evidence that Kimberly has a boyfriend and a gameplan that didn't include her boyfriend coming along and getting a bit possessive and blowing her gameplan up.
She discussed having a boyfriend with other people, there was pics of them together all over Facebook, he was there behind the scenes as her 'Family or Friend' on launch night for hours apparently.
Everything's pointing to her having a boyfriend but maybe she hasn't ? It doesn't really matter to us either way, or it doesn't to me at least.:shrug:

[Yaki da]

You've thrown so many different questions out there but nowhere have you answered any of the points I've made. We know that this guy was there for her on the launch night. There is a picture of him there. And there is the fact that Steven's mum says that when she met him in the friends and family section he introduced himself as her boyfriend.

You keep talking about him "Sasha" as though he's just some creation, but there is clear evidence that he both lives with her and has photographed her as his main model (He's got a website). Tamara confirmed that Kimberly said she was living with this guy.

In his phone call to BOTS as reported by Digital Spy...

However, he described the relationship between Kimberly and Steven as an "illusion" and said it is "the game that Kimberly's good at".

"She definitely keeps him at the right distance - she's not pushing too far, but not getting too close either," he added. "She gives him hope and it's enough to keep a boy like this for a while."

Sasha added that he isn't "worried" about Steven, saying: "I don't see why I should be worried. Do I have emotions? Yes I do, but I'm not worried at all. Steven is a mummy's boy, he can't stop crying, I'm glad they have enough tissues down there. But I don't feel any threat."


As to your last point...

The audience come to the conclusion that Kimberly was lying when she said she was "dating" and had no commitments because they have been shown a picture of Kimberly and the man known as "Sasha" in a 3 year exclusive relationship. Nothing that the man known as "Sasha" has done or said goes against what Kimberly said. Big Brother manipulate the audience into thinking it does.

How can you not think what he said she is doing on BOTS goes against what Kimberly has said?

[Gusto Brunt]

They're such a boring 'couple'.

[Gusto Brunt]

Why does Steven have to go into these speeches where he talks such s***, like 'you must remember...

'you better believe me...

'I would, never, never, never - ever...'

So annoying, cliched, crap.

At the end of the day, all he wants to do is **** her.

[Achilles]

To add to my earlier post.

If Kimberly has talked INSIDE THE HOUSE about the man known as "Sasha" that is evidence that she is telling the truth when she said she is dating and does not have commitments.

When you say I HAVE NO COMMITMENTS, it means YOU HAVE NO COMMITMENTS. She said it to Steven. He knows the score.

All the people making comments on social media like "she got a boyfriend" cannot see the world from the perspective of another person, they can only see the world from their own narrow minded perspective.

[Gusto Brunt]

To add to my earlier post.

If Kimberly has talked INSIDE THE HOUSE about the man known as "Sasha" that is evidence that she is telling the truth when she said she is dating and does not have commitments.

When you say I HAVE NO COMMITMENTS, it means YOU HAVE NO COMMITMENTS. She said it to Steven. He knows the score.

All the people making comments on social media like "she got a boyfriend" cannot see the world from the perspective of another person, they can only see the world from their own narrow minded perspective.

I don't think she can commit to anyone. I don't even think she was committed to Sasha when she was with him.

I think she is only interested in having a ***k buddy. She gave me that impression when she said she 'dates'. It was the way she said it, like she has sex with guys, hangs out with them, but doesn't get too close.

We've all seen her, she is emotionally empty.

[Patricia4]

What bores.

[Cherie]

What bores.

This sums up this VT perfectly, in fact they are so boring together I can't even be bothered to watch it.