Helen and Winston have an Argument

[Samm]

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I'm not supporting any of the ones arguing

[Josy]

Helens pissed in that can tell with her face before I even play the vid

[Yaki da]

In a week or so, we have more conversations like this to look forward to :shrug:

[Josy]

It's not even an argument is it, more a disagreement :shrug:

Lol at Winston think the boys will get the power this week

[Verbal]

God he's thick. He wasn't saved because he got cheers and it was obvious he wasn't going to go. It's not rocket science.

[rusticgal]

Well I hope that Helen and Ash get punished severely for discussing nominations and suggesting Ashleigh should go up as she was loudly booed....

This is a serious infringement of discussing and influencing other HM's on nominations.

[Verbal]

Well I hope that Helen and Ash get punished severely for discussing nominations and suggesting Ashleigh should go up as she was loudly booed....

This is a serious infringement of discussing and influencing other HM's on nominations.

Is that against the rules this year? It's all they all ever talk about.

[Josy]

Well I hope that Helen and Ash get punished severely for discussing nominations and suggesting Ashleigh should go up as she was loudly booed....

This is a serious infringement of discussing and influencing other HM's on nominations.

How were they discussing noms?

They were using that as an example of what would happened had the boys got the power..

[Achilles]

Completely random and out of the blue argument. Feel like I just watched Raw after a pay per view :shrug:

[Gusto Brunt]

Look at Jale, just sitting there, with her 'best buddies Helen and Ash'... Can't wait for Jale to go.

Helens pissed in that can tell with her face before I even play the vid

She's always pissed.:joker:

[Headie]

He's gonna get popular from this, yet is Ashleigh did it the crowd would be baying for her blood :bored:

[Headie]

Ash saying "Can I just ****ing speak now before I start ****ing shouting at people"...

Uhm didn't he complain at Toya for being disrespectful and telling everyone to shut up?

[Josy]

Look at Jale, just sitting there, with her 'best buddies Helen and Ash'... Can't wait for Jale to go.



She's always pissed.:joker:

True :laugh:

Ash saying "Can I just ****ing speak now before I start ****ing shouting at people"...

Uhm didn't he complain at Toya for being disrespectful and telling everyone to shut up?

He was being completely ignored to be fair.

Hey if Ashleigh did it would be cool though eh? :joker:

[Headie]

He was being completely ignored to be fair.

Hey if Ashleigh did it would be cool though eh? :joker:

Toya was being ignored when she was trying to explain things, so it's double standards from him.

And No, why would it be ok if Ashleigh did it?

[Josy]

Toya was being ignored when she was trying to explain things, so it's double standards from him.

And No, why would it be ok if Ashleigh did it?

Toya was completely rude to the entire house, Ash was speaking to his friends.

And I was flipping round what you said above, just having a joke you know.

[Pete.]

Toya was completely rude to the entire house, Ash was speaking to his friends.

And I was flipping round what you said above, just having a joke you know.
So Ash wasn't being rude calling Toya a prick

[rusticgal]

How were they discussing noms?

They were using that as an example of what would happened had the boys got the power..

I realise they are discussing a pre-meditated situation but in doing so they are influencing people to nominate Ashleigh because she got the loudest boos...albeit in a situation where the boys will have to do what the girls did last week.
Last week the girls had the power to discuss the boys and their reasons for remaining nominated or being saved. They discussed it amongst the other power housemates only....they were not allowed to discuss it with the boys and they didn't.
The boys are thinking they will have the power this week and blatantly discussing reasons why or why not Ashleigh should go up since she had been booed.... It is obvious who Helen and Ash are going to put up and they want Ashleigh nominated. Now had Stevens name been chanted and booed they would have been telling Winston...he will go if he is up so we need save him... Now that is influencing nominations.... The boys DONT have the power, they shouldn't have had that discussion but they did and Helen and Ash were IMO giving their reasons for Ashleigh to face the public vote and therefore influencing other housemates to nominate in order to save others that they don't want to go.

[Josy]

So Ash wasn't being rude calling Toya a prick

Yes that was rude but that was after Toya was rude to him?

[Pete.]

Yes that was rude but that was after Toya was rude to him?
no it wasn't

[Josy]

I realise they are discussing a pre-meditated situation but in doing so they are influencing people to nominate Ashleigh because she got the loudest boos...albeit in a situation where the boys will have to do what the girls did last week.
Last week the girls had the power to discuss the boys and their reasons for remaining nominated or being saved. They discussed it amongst the other power housemates only....they were not allowed to discuss it with the boys and they didn't.
The boys are thinking they will have the power this week and blatantly discussing reasons why or why not Ashleigh should go up since she had been booed.... It is obvious who Helen and Ash are going to put up and they want Ashleigh nominated. Now had Stevens name been chanted and booed they would have been telling Winston...he will go if he is up so we need save him... Now that is influencing nominations.... The boys DONT have the power, they shouldn't have had that discussion but they did and Helen and Ash were IMO giving their reasons for Ashleigh to face the public vote and therefore influencing other housemates to nominate in order to save others that they don't want to go.

Fair enough.

I don't see as that though I see it as Winston being a but pissed off at the girls automatically assuming he was safe and them trying to explain that reason to him.

[Josy]

no it wasn't

Pete it's been played on repeat during the highlights often enough, go watch again and then come back because Ash certainly never mentioned the word prick until after Toya said what she did :facepalm:

[rusticgal]

Fair enough.

I don't see as that though I see it as Winston being a but pissed off at the girls automatically assuming he was safe and them trying to explain that reason to him.

Yes that was the case Josy...but it's what Ash and Helen went on to say after that which was IMO opinion influencing with a reason to nominate Ashleigh regarding the chants.
It was a random discussion and Bb should have interrupted the discussion with a reminder because of the way the conversation progressed.

[Headie]

Yes that was rude but that was after Toya was rude to him?

Toya was 'rude' to the whole house, not Ash in particular. So he was the only one who took offense and then caused a big fight and called her a prick unnecessarily.

In this case, he was rude to all of those sat around him, and no one was rude back.

[Patricia4]

The leaders Ash and Helen are the rulers in that house its getting very boring they stick up for each other all the time nobody can say anything.

[Josy]

Toya was 'rude' to the whole house, not Ash in particular. So he was the only one who took offense and then caused a big fight and called her a prick unnecessarily.

In this case, he was rude to all of those sat around him, and no one was rude back.

If she was rude to the whole house she was also rude to him? your first comment doesn't make sense.

In this clip he was speaking to Winston and Helen who were ignoring what he was trying to say, they are all friends and disagreed about something it's hardly a big deal :shrug:

[Achilles]

Toya is a prick. We all know she is so what's the big deal with how Ash talked to her? The only time Ash has done something mean was against Jale. That is in the past and they get on well now, so everyone should just move on. Almost the entire house was mean against Jale, not just Ash and Helen. Pauline was the nasty influence on everyone. She was like a Sith Mike Tyson in there.

[Speedster]

He's gonna get popular from this, yet is Ashleigh did it the crowd would be baying for her blood :bored:


Very true.This'd be just one more nail in her coffin unfortunately.

[Mick]

Have to agree with some of the above posts I thought what was said could be seen as rule breaking regarding not discussing noms and attempting to influence others.

I really hope Ashleigh has a change of heart and decides that she does want to stay and fights her corner.She has shown she can best Helen once so come on girl do it again.

[Speedster]

Ash saying "Can I just ****ing speak now before I start ****ing shouting at people"...

Uhm didn't he complain at Toya for being disrespectful and telling everyone to shut up?

Apparently he's special so the rules don't apply to him.

[Josy]

Apparently he's special so the rules don't apply to him.

Well that's far from the truth isn't since ever since that comment to Toya people have been hating on him for it even though he said it in reply to Toya actually acting like a prick.

[MrMinaj]

is this another example of a boy thinking they are above being put up for eviction ?

[Kizzy]

God he's an awful eejit isn't he?..

[Bluerang1]

Winston is an idiot

[Crimson Dynamo]

Helen is just a bad drunk.

and that argument is naff

[M X]

Winston is right.

[Jemal]

Oh i thought it was something actually serious.

[Ellen]

Winston looking a idiot.

[Braden]

Have absolutely no idea what Winston was trying to argue here.

[Kazanne]

So Ash wasn't being rude calling Toya a prick

No,because she was:hehe:

[Vanessa]

It's nothing serious, just a disagreement.

[MarcusMel]

One day, and this goes for me too, we will argue with the words, ok I an heard what you have to say and accept it, now are you willing to listen to what I wish to say.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It is soooo annoying to watch him think he is so in the right hen hes totally off the mark and doesn't understand at all how they had to play the game.

Helen looks like she wants to punch him lol.