It was a fix

[beardedbloke]

There's no way that Matthew got more votes than Ash. No way.

I've gone right off this series, and lost trust with the voting results.

[reece(:]

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[LukeB]

according to someone on facebook ash was 50% ahead before the lines was closed

[Crimson Dynamo]

:suspect::suspect::suspect:

[GypsyGoth]

Why would BB give a damn if Ash stayed, if anything the show would be better if Matt stayed.

So who fixed it and why?

[Black Dagger]

LOL.

Fix claims every series when a result doesn't go the way people want does make me laugh.

As much as I love Matthew, I saw many people say they were voting to evict him this week, at times in the week he had more likes than Ash for getting him out on the official facebook.

[flamingGalah!]

Something definitely fishy about it all, the voting odds & all the polls on various forums/websites all had Ash as a dead cert to go...

[Adamw92]

Matthew received more votes, not a fix. Ash haters didn't vote enough.

[Northern Monkey]

I agree it seemed dodgy,Not bothered about Matthew but will stop watching if it turns out to be fixed.

[chuff me dizzy]

I think people took it for granted Ash would go ,so didnt vote ,but still iffy someone 1-10 stays ? naaaah not having that one !!

[Black Dagger]

I do feel they manipulated the editing to keep Ash in this week though, that edit last night wasn't brilliant for Matthew, it's why I put money on him going, but purposely rigging votes, nah.

[billy123]

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[Razor]

It honestly wouldn't surprise me. BB gave ash a task and air time this week where as Mathew had none.

[jet]

Could be that they couldn't let Ash go, in case Helen flipped once she got a drink and then they would have to turf her out. Losing their darling Helen and their 'eye - candy' Ash in one fell swoop wouldn't suit BB at all....:think:

I'd rather it was fixed than believe the public actually reward sexism, snide mocking, and arrogant entitlement.

[flamingGalah!]

Why would BB give a damn if Ash stayed, if anything the show would be better if Matt stayed.

So who fixed it and why?

They want a showmance between Helen & Ash. She is there to the final (which to me is the biggest fix) so it would make sense for them to want her potential shag bit in there with her too...

And if they didn't actually fix the votes, they certainly fixed the editing...

[Verbal]

I agree it seemed dodgy,Not bothered about Matthew but will stop watching if it turns out to be fixed.

If it turned out to be fixed, which its not, but if it did nobody would watch it cos they would be shut down and everyone from Emma Willis to Marcus would be put in prison.

[Josy]

Sigh.

The votes are monitored.
Neither the channel or producers would risk doing something so pointless and stupid.
People spent more to evict Matthew than ash

Seriously all you have to do is checkout ashs Twitter to see how much his fans were voting they even posted screenshots of their vote confirmation.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Matthew went out with a very thin margin



but I guess his girlfriend likes that

[Verbal]

They want a showmance between Helen & Ash. She is there to the final (which to me is the biggest fix) so it would make sense for them to want her potential shag bit in there with her too...

And if they didn't actually fix the votes, they certainly fixed the editing...

Why would 'they' want a showmance so badly they would illegally rig a public poll and indulge in fraud? People are in lala land.

[Northern Monkey]

If it turned out to be fixed, which its not, but if it did nobody would watch it cos they would be shut down and everyone from Emma Willis to Marcus would be put in prison.

Er no.Emma and Marcus would not be put in prison as they more than likely would'nt even know about it.Whoever was responsible would maybe go the prison and would definately get sacked and somebody new put in their place and possibly a channel change.

[Marsh.]

Poor Abbey, her and Matthew's ego can't take the knock back so it "must be a fix". :joker:

Twats.

[Verbal]

Er no.Emma and Marcus would not be put in prison as they more than likely would'nt even know about it.Whoever was responsible would maybe go the prison and would definately get sacked and somebody new put in their place and possibly a channel change.

They would have all knowingly taken part in a national scandal and ripped off millions of people.

Maybe the mafia are involved!

[flamingGalah!]

Why would 'they' want a showmance so badly they would illegally rig a public poll and indulge in fraud? People are in lala land.

I didn't say they did rig the votes did I??

But they certainly rigged the editing to keep Ash in there, that was plain to see, which still makes it a "fix"...

[csm1988]

I didn't say they did rig the votes did I??

But they certainly rigged the editing to keep Ash in there, that was plain to see, which still makes it a "fix"...

If not rigged editing maybe rigged by the bookies? (somewhere it was mentioned the bookies saved a fortune)

[Verbal]

I didn't say they did rig the votes did I??

But they certainly rigged the editing to keep Ash in there, that was plain to see, which still makes it a "fix"...

Rigging: To manipulate dishonestly for personal gain

So why would they do that?

To keep Ash in?

To make money?

That would still make it an illegal act

[daniel-lewis-1985]

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Ofcourse Matthews "MANAGER" is going to say this.

Mods can we please stop these constant frigging fix threads or limit or merge them they are doing everyones heads in.

OP probably didn't even vote to save Matthew just like the rest of you claiming it was a fix so get over it.

[Locke.]

Would make it even funnier if it was a fix so we can only hope so

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I didn't say they did rig the votes did I??

But they certainly rigged the editing to keep Ash in there, that was plain to see, which still makes it a "fix"...

No it doesn't lol.

Giving someone a better edit is not a fix if infact they did do that, Maybe Ash kept his head down because he didn't want to go (tactics).

I thought Matthew was shown a lot more this week and him and Marcs relationship was nice to watch.

Matthew even had his birthday and stood up to Helen in the morgue.

[rusticgal]

I don't think it was a fix. I think people read so much of 'Ash is a goner' and with polls and betting odds saying he was a dead cert to go....everyone just became complacent. Why, if you disliked Ash would you bother to vote if you read that....you wouldn't and that's why he stayed. Channel 5 may be responsible for favourable editing, as they have done this week, but they couldn't risk 'fixing the votes'...

[Amy Jade]

I an undecided now at which I find more funny, Matthew going and Ashleigh's plan back firing on here OR the over reaction from people about it.

Matthew went because of 3 reasons

1. Ash haters got complacent and decided it was a cert he would go so they decided not to vote.

2. He was bitchy, moaned all the time and looked down his nose at people, he also never put any blame on himself in the Helen argument when realistically they were as bad as each other. That never goes down well. I won't over look Ash being good looking but plenty of good looking guys have gone for being egotistical.

3. Ashleigh used him as a pawn and although this forum holds her in high estimation most BB fans do not and to show this they decided to try and evict one of her allies.

No fixing at all and if half as many people moaning and making up theories voted then Matthew would have stayed.

[Anothercat]

I wonder if people thought Ash was so sure to go they didn't bother voting

[rusticgal]

I wonder if people thought Ash was so sure to go they didn't bother voting


That's exactly what happened.

[flamingGalah!]

Rigging: To manipulate dishonestly for personal gain

So why would they do that?

To keep Ash in?

To make money?

That would still make it an illegal act

Big Brother have been manipulating this series since day one lol...

They always have selective editing, but this last week it seems they were trying extremely hard to show Helen & Ash in a good light & Ashleigh/Matthew in a bad one. That isn't illegal, but it isn't exactly honest either...

No it doesn't lol.

Giving someone a better edit is not a fix if infact they did do that, Maybe Ash kept his head down because he didn't want to go (tactics).

I thought Matthew was shown a lot more this week and him and Marcs relationship was nice to watch.

Matthew even had his birthday and stood up to Helen in the morgue.

Of course selective editing is 'fixing' it, as it always has been. But as I said above they have been trying their best to show a different side of Helen & have made Ashleigh out to be the villain of the piece. It is obvious they want their 'chosen one' Helen to stay in at all costs, despite her golden pass to the final she has had upteen warnings & they want the backlash over her to be forgotten about... And a showmance with Ash is the icing on top of their ****ty cake too...

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Big Brother have been manipulating this series since day one lol...

They always have selective editing, but this last week it seems they were trying extremely hard to show Helen & Ash in a good light & Ashleigh/Matthew in a bad one. That isn't illegal, but it isn't exactly honest either...



Of course selective editing is 'fixing' it, as it always has been. But as I said above they have been trying their best to show a different side of Helen & have made Ashleigh out to be the villain of the piece. It is obvious they want their 'chosen one' Helen to stay in at all costs, despite her golden pass to the final she has had upteen warnings & they want the backlash over her to be forgotten about... And a showmance with Ash is the icing on top of their ****ty cake too...

Not a fix its called manipulating and without live feed you cannot even confirm any of this is true.

Just pointless.

[flamingGalah!]

Not a fix its called manipulating and without live feed you cannot even confirm any of this is true.

Just pointless.

Manipulating the show so it effects the eviction results is a fix :facepalm:

And you cannot confirm that this isn't true, so your comments are therefore equally pointless...

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Manipulating the show so it effects the eviction results is a fix :facepalm:

And you cannot confirm that this isn't true, so your comments are therefore equally pointless...

99% of people discussing Matthews eviction are claiming its a voting fix not manipulation of editing that's not the main talking point.

You cannot say 100% fact they are mipulating the show as there is no live feed.

Its depressing how serious people get into their conspiracy theories actually its embarrassing.

No one has proof of anything and never will so may aswell just shut up talking about it.

[Anglo]

The integrity of the show is entirely lost which is why the audience is dwindling.

The lack of transparency in the counting of the votes is worrying. They feed us tidbits like "it was the closest run thing ever" . why don't they spell it out, the precise number of votes for each evictee?

They should do like they had to do on Strictly about six years ago and introduce a judges' panel for half the result. That couldn't be fixed. The BOTs audience would be a good place to start.

Also, if bookmakers are indeed making multiple calls, why not limit calls to, say, maximum five per household and from private numbers only?

[Ellen]

It wasnt a fix. It is hard when your fave or one of your fave's goes but basically more people voted for Matthew to go than any other HM nominated. Simple as that.

[user104658]

I think a large part of the answer has to be... many of those who can't stand the likes of Ash / Helen and co tuned out 10+ days ago and simply aren't even watching any more, let alone picking up the phone to vote. This has been compounded by the fact that a lot of those who dislike that group threw up their banners for Jale as an alternative and ended up being completely let down by her... the simpering coward spends all day now licking their boots.

I don't like Ash... I didn't bother to vote him out. I literally don't give a stuff who goes / stays / whatever happens this series. I absolutely despise everything about Helen, but if her immunity was removed and she was up next week, I still wouldn't waste the time, money or energy it takes to lift the phone.

The series is a complete flop. The people who LIKE Helen's group are still watching and voting... I don't think many other people are. Most of that group will stay until the end and Winston will win. Can we please just fast forward to that, quickly move on to Celeb, and forget that any of this ever happened?

[Verbal]

Big Brother have been manipulating this series since day one lol...

They always have selective editing, but this last week it seems they were trying extremely hard to show Helen & Ash in a good light & Ashleigh/Matthew in a bad one. That isn't illegal, but it isn't exactly honest either...



Of course selective editing is 'fixing' it, as it always has been. But as I said above they have been trying their best to show a different side of Helen & have made Ashleigh out to be the villain of the piece. It is obvious they want their 'chosen one' Helen to stay in at all costs, despite her golden pass to the final she has had upteen warnings & they want the backlash over her to be forgotten about... And a showmance with Ash is the icing on top of their ****ty cake too...

Could you explain to me what selective editing is and why they would do that?

[Verbal]

Manipulating the show so it effects the eviction results is a fix :facepalm:

And you cannot confirm that this isn't true, so your comments are therefore equally pointless...

At least you concede that your argument is pointless

[MrMinaj]

Ofcourse Matthews "MANAGER" is going to say this.

Mods can we please stop these constant frigging fix threads or limit or merge them they are doing everyones heads in.

OP probably didn't even vote to save Matthew just like the rest of you claiming it was a fix so get over it.

also the fact you can be THE favorite to win and STILL be evicted using 'vote to evict', so nothing fishy in that.

[*mazedsalv**]

It was NOT a fix. If caught they'd have to pay millions, now, tell me, is it worth paying millions just to save Ash? Come on guys, please.

[arista]

according to someone on facebook ash was 50% ahead before the lines was closed




It was a Close Vote

No Fix.



I wish mods would merge all these

And Lock some

[jet]

I think a large part of the answer has to be... many of those who can't stand the likes of Ash / Helen and co tuned out 10+ days ago and simply aren't even watching any more, let alone picking up the phone to vote. This has been compounded by the fact that a lot of those who dislike that group threw up their banners for Jale as an alternative and ended up being completely let down by her... the simpering coward spends all day now licking their boots.

I don't like Ash... I didn't bother to vote him out. I literally don't give a stuff who goes / stays / whatever happens this series. I absolutely despise everything about Helen, but if her immunity was removed and she was up next week, I still wouldn't waste the time, money or energy it takes to lift the phone.

The series is a complete flop. The people who LIKE Helen's group are still watching and voting... I don't think many other people are. Most of that group will stay until the end and Winston will win. Can we please just fast forward to that, quickly move on to Celeb, and forget that any of this ever happened?

Great post. I think what you say is a very likely part of what happened.

[Josy]

Lol at people trying to think up mental excuses.

Matt got the most votes to evict, nothing more nothing less.

[AarynGriesfan]

Well this series just went down the gutter. First Matthew is gone Ashleigh will go next then we will be left with only houseguests who have their head up Helen's ass. Yawn at least BBUS is on now.

[beardedbloke]

The integrity of the show is entirely lost which is why the audience is dwindling.

The lack of transparency in the counting of the votes is worrying. They feed us tidbits like "it was the closest run thing ever" . why don't they spell it out, the precise number of votes for each evictee?

They should do like they had to do on Strictly about six years ago and introduce a judges' panel for half the result. That couldn't be fixed. The BOTs audience would be a good place to start.

Also, if bookmakers are indeed making multiple calls, why not limit calls to, say, maximum five per household and from private numbers only?

good post. Where there's money, there's the potential for fraud and those posters who are saying 'there was no fix' are very naive. The bookies did indeed 'make a killing'.

[Kizzy]

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I'm a bit suspicious, the show is sponsored by supercasino... maybe there is a benefit for them to manipulate the voting?

[Samwell]

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I'm a bit suspicious, the show is sponsored by supercasino... maybe there is a benefit for them to manipulate the voting?

They also sponsored last years BB. Has there been unusual evicitions the last two years, and not earlier?

[Kizzy]

They also sponsored last years BB. Has there been unusual evicitions the last two years, and not earlier?

I said the fact dexter was a well known poker player and media ***** was a bit sus when he was consistently saved last year.
I say danielle is a plant.

[BigBuk]

I said the fact dexter was a well known poker player and media ***** was a bit sus when he was consistently saved last year.
I say danielle is a plant.


Dexter was consistently saved last year as he had a big fan base, thus finishing second, nothing suspicious about that.

[flamingGalah!]

99% of people discussing Matthews eviction are claiming its a voting fix not manipulation of editing that's not the main talking point.

You cannot say 100% fact they are mipulating the show as there is no live feed.

Its depressing how serious people get into their conspiracy theories actually its embarrassing.

No one has proof of anything and never will so may aswell just shut up talking about it.

But manipulation of editing etc.. still = a fix

And I'm not getting into any conspiracy theories, I never claimed they did rig the votes... :shrug:

This is a forum dear, people generally discuss things :hehe:

Could you explain to me what selective editing is and why they would do that?

You really have to be told what selective editing is? :conf:

At least you concede that your argument is pointless

As are your comments, didn't stop you from making them though :wavey:

[Verbal]

But manipulation of editing etc.. still = a fix

And I'm not getting into any conspiracy theories, I never claimed they did rig the votes... :shrug:

This is a forum dear, people generally discuss things :hehe:



You really have to be told what selective editing is? :conf:



As are your comments, didn't stop you from making them though :wavey:

Yes I need it explaining, I wouldn't have asked otherwise.

Jesus.

[Yaki da]

I can't believe they'd do any of that as the trouble it would get them in for so little reason it would be absurd

But I have never seen the poll results so far out of whack with the actual result. They sometimes get it wrong, but I've never seen them get it THAT wrong. Crazy stuff. Maybe the vote freeze changed things. And I really think they should announce the percentages.

[Kate!]

Sigh.

The votes are monitored.
Neither the channel or producers would risk doing something so pointless and stupid.
People spent more to evict Matthew than ash

Seriously all you have to do is checkout ashs Twitter to see how much his fans were voting they even posted screenshots of their vote confirmation.

Exactly this!

I expressed on here my absolute cast iron certainty that Ash wouldn't go, and almost everyone said I was out of my mind :joker:

I think not leetle puppies!

Ash will win! ;) don't doubt me again :p

[flamingGalah!]

Yes I need it explaining, I wouldn't have asked otherwise.

Jesus.

Well I would have thought it was pretty obvious, but anyway... Selective editing is when they "cherry pick" certain things to show someone in either a good or bad light or don't show things for the same reason. It can also mean things are shown out of context so someone comes across bad. They sometimes also hardly show someone at all, even though they could have been involved in arguments etc.. This is what manipulates the viewers as we don't see the whole picture & arguments can seem one sided & can make housemates seem like miserable sods, when they could actually be having a laugh for much of the time, but they choose not to show it...

[Verbal]

Well I would have thought it was pretty obvious, but anyway... Selective editing is when they "cherry pick" certain things to show someone in either a good or bad light or don't show things for the same reason. It can also mean things are shown out of context so someone comes across bad. They sometimes also hardly show someone at all, even though they could have been involved in arguments etc.. This is what manipulates the viewers as we don't see the whole picture & arguments can seem one sided & can make housemates seem like miserable sods, when they could actually be having a laugh for much of the time, but they choose not to show it...

Thank you for the explanation. Turns out it is the paranoid rubbish I thought it was and I didn't need an explanation after all.

But thank you again.

[flamingGalah!]

Thank you for the explanation. Turns out it is the paranoid rubbish I thought it was and I didn't need an explanation after all.

But thank you again.

It isn't paranoid rubbish, it is fact :joker:

Big Brother has always had selective editing & if you really think they don't then I have no words...