Ash saying Helen was pushing her bum onto his crotch

[Yoshi888]

Do you think this was an involuntary movement from her or was she trying to get Ash to engage in fornication?

[rubymoo]

Only she would know.

[Northern Monkey]

She was trying provoke a reaction.......

[Achilles]

I reckon they were just both horny

[Novo]

Whatever gave you that idea

[Northern Monkey]

I hope he had a spare fiver down his shorts,I've heard that's the going rate for a butt grind.

[Toy Soldier]

I hope he had a spare fiver down his shorts,I've heard that's the going rate for a butt grind.

With Helen that's only 50p, a fiver will get you bareback anal.

Ash has opened a tab, he says he'll get her two chup-a-chup lollies and a Happy Meal when they get out. She offered to rim him if he'd throw in a McFlurry, but that a bit steep for his money.

[Northern Monkey]

With Helen that's only 50p, a fiver will get you bareback anal.

Ash has opened a tab, he says he'll get her two chup-a-chup lollies and a Happy Meal when they get out. She offered to rim him if he'd throw in a McFlurry, but that a bit steep for his money.
:joker:

[Kizzy]

Urgh.. how derogatory grow up for gods sake.

[Verbal]

Now I know I posted in this thread, why are my posts getting randomly deleted and i'm getting infractions for the most ridiculous reasons?

[Samwell]

She has been payed by 500 men for sex, and she has probably had sex with atleast 100 without money. A conservative guess is that at least 200 men has played with her ass.

[Marsh.]

:umm2:

[Daffodil]

This thread shows the immaturity of some posters. Prostitutes are only people who get paid for doing what millions of other people are doing behind closed doors/alley ways/cars etc etc . Show me someone who has a completely clean past and I will show you a bloody miracle.

[Toy Soldier]

This thread shows the immaturity of some posters. Prostitutes are only people who get paid for doing what millions of other people are doing behind closed doors/alley ways/cars etc etc . Show me someone who has a completely clean past and I will show you a bloody miracle.

I have no real problem with prostiturion / escorting, to be fair. I'm sure there are many prostitutes / escorts who are perfectly nice, civilized people.

Helen isn't one of them.

Helen isn't an escort.

Helen is a jaded old hooker, for OH SO MANY reasons, not just because of how she makes money.

[Verbal]

I have no real problem with prostiturion / escorting, to be fair. I'm sure there are many prostitutes / escorts who are perfectly nice, civilized people.

Helen isn't one of them.

Helen isn't an escort.

Helen is a jaded old hooker, for OH SO MANY reasons, not just because of how she makes money.

Not that it makes a bloody difference, but she was not the stereotypical, heroin addicted, street walker that you are trying to make out. She was an Escort. And it was a job she did to support her and her daughter. Which, sadly, is a route a lot of young women feel they need to take these days in order to support themselves.

[Kizzy]

This thread shows the immaturity of some posters. Prostitutes are only people who get paid for doing what millions of other people are doing behind closed doors/alley ways/cars etc etc . Show me someone who has a completely clean past and I will show you a bloody miracle.

I totally agree and it seems strange to me that the so called 'star' of a previous CBB was spawned from a show that glamorised casual sex, lewd crude acts, fighting, binge drinking and anti social behaviour.
The apologists for this hedonism claimed she was 'young', as helen was 'young' when she was escorting can she be forgiven her past misdemeanors?... Seems not.

[Alf]

This thread shows the immaturity of some posters. Prostitutes are only people who get paid for doing what millions of other people are doing behind closed doors/alley ways/cars etc etc . Show me someone who has a completely clean past and I will show you a bloody miracle.
This thread also shows some people are so serious and miserable that they cant see a joke when one is out there.

If it's not your kind of humour then so be it, but why go calling people Immature?

[sampvt]

Prostitution is just marriage without a ring.

[Kizzy]

This thread also shows some people are so serious and miserable that they cant see a joke when one is out there.

If it's not your kind of humour then so be it, but why go calling people Immature?

I'm not serious or miserable, I have a very different interpretation of humour to you though obviously.
I would say name calling is immature too, it's a bit ironic to defend making defamatory remarks and labeling and then complain when someone labels you.

[Toy Soldier]

Not that it makes a bloody difference, but she was not the stereotypical, heroin addicted, street walker that you are trying to make out. She was an Escort. And it was a job she did to support her and her daughter. Which, sadly, is a route a lot of young women feel they need to take these days in order to support themselves.

I'm not trying to "make out" anything and drug use has never been mentioned, not street walking. Nor is it relevant how or why she turned to selling sex, so save the sob story. Like I said, I'm sure there are many escorts / prostitutes / sex workers who are perfectly good people.

Helen isn't one of them.

My opinion of Helen is based PURELY on what we have seen of her... in the house, in the press, in interviews on other shows. Not all sex workers. Just Helen.

She is a jaded old hooker.

She is quite blatantly a nasty, aggressive, thick-as-pig-**** waste of space. A bully who gets thrills and jollies from isolating and belittling other people. It's absolutely insane that some (a lot of??) people seem to want to paint her as some sort of poor little underdog, swept away by a terrible life... someone who has turned her life around and now has a heart-of-gold. It's a complete fantasy. And like I said - I can ONLY imagine it's a delusion that's been created so that people still feel comfortable watching a show that they love, who can't quite admit that this woman may well be one of the final nails in the BB coffin. A fact that seems to be backed up by plummeting viewing figures and many dedicated, old-time fans finally giving up hope. It's an absolute joke. She's obviously used her sex work, specifically with celebrities, to gain notoriety and now has been headhunted to appear in a reality show off the back of it. Bleating on about not having wanted the stories to go public (ERR, Yes OK...) but then using said stories in a desperate, clawing attempt to gain z-list celebrity. It's ****ing foul.

But by all means, continue to rewrite the narrative is it makes you feel better. Helen is a lovely, delicate flower who people don't like simply because of how she "used to" (...) make money. :hehe:. She's been nothing but a joy to behold! Made the series, she has. A revolutionary! Never before has a contestant thought to replace traditional "sentences" with rancid vaginal belches of vitriol. A true classic.


OH and Kizzy... you are smart enough to know that defamation only refers to statements that are demonstrably untrue. People are being scathing, that much is true, but please... quote me just ONE piece of defamation.

[Verbal]

tl;dr can someone summarize that for me?

[Kazanne]

Urgh.. how derogatory grow up for gods sake.

Exactly Kizbot.:smug:

[Kizzy]

I'm not trying to "make out" anything and drug use has never been mentioned, not street walking. Nor is it relevant how or why she turned to selling sex, so save the sob story. Like I said, I'm sure there are many escorts / prostitutes / sex workers who are perfectly good people.

Helen isn't one of them.

My opinion of Helen is based PURELY on what we have seen of her... in the house, in the press, in interviews on other shows. Not all sex workers. Just Helen.

She is a jaded old hooker.

She is quite blatantly a nasty, aggressive, thick-as-pig-**** waste of space. A bully who gets thrills and jollies from isolating and belittling other people. It's absolutely insane that some (a lot of??) people seem to want to paint her as some sort of poor little underdog, swept away by a terrible life... someone who has turned her life around and now has a heart-of-gold. It's a complete fantasy. And like I said - I can ONLY imagine it's a delusion that's been created so that people still feel comfortable watching a show that they love, who can't quite admit that this woman may well be one of the final nails in the BB coffin. A fact that seems to be backed up by plummeting viewing figures and many dedicated, old-time fans finally giving up hope. It's an absolute joke. She's obviously used her sex work, specifically with celebrities, to gain notoriety and now has been headhunted to appear in a reality show off the back of it. Bleating on about not having wanted the stories to go public (ERR, Yes OK...) but then using said stories in a desperate, clawing attempt to gain z-list celebrity. It's ****ing foul.

But by all means, continue to rewrite the narrative is it makes you feel better. Helen is a lovely, delicate flower who people don't like simply because of how she "used to" (...) make money. :hehe:. She's been nothing but a joy to behold! Made the series, she has. A revolutionary! Never before has a contestant thought to replace traditional "sentences" with rancid vaginal belches of vitriol. A true classic.


OH and Kizzy... you are smart enough to know that defamation only refers to statements that are demonstrably untrue. People are being scathing, that much is true, but please... quote me just ONE piece of defamation.

How about this one?

[jet]

I'm not trying to "make out" anything and drug use has never been mentioned, not street walking. Nor is it relevant how or why she turned to selling sex, so save the sob story. Like I said, I'm sure there are many escorts / prostitutes / sex workers who are perfectly good people.

Helen isn't one of them.

My opinion of Helen is based PURELY on what we have seen of her... in the house, in the press, in interviews on other shows. Not all sex workers. Just Helen.

She is a jaded old hooker.

She is quite blatantly a nasty, aggressive, thick-as-pig-**** waste of space. A bully who gets thrills and jollies from isolating and belittling other people. It's absolutely insane that some (a lot of??) people seem to want to paint her as some sort of poor little underdog, swept away by a terrible life... someone who has turned her life around and now has a heart-of-gold. It's a complete fantasy. And like I said - I can ONLY imagine it's a delusion that's been created so that people still feel comfortable watching a show that they love, who can't quite admit that this woman may well be one of the final nails in the BB coffin. A fact that seems to be backed up by plummeting viewing figures and many dedicated, old-time fans finally giving up hope. It's an absolute joke. She's obviously used her sex work, specifically with celebrities, to gain notoriety and now has been headhunted to appear in a reality show off the back of it. Bleating on about not having wanted the stories to go public (ERR, Yes OK...) but then using said stories in a desperate, clawing attempt to gain z-list celebrity. It's ****ing foul.

But by all means, continue to rewrite the narrative is it makes you feel better. Helen is a lovely, delicate flower who people don't like simply because of how she "used to" (...) make money. :hehe:. She's been nothing but a joy to behold! Made the series, she has. A revolutionary! Never before has a contestant thought to replace traditional "sentences" with rancid vaginal belches of vitriol. A true classic.


OH and Kizzy... you are smart enough to know that defamation only refers to statements that are demonstrably untrue. People are being scathing, that much is true, but please... quote me just ONE piece of defamation.

This is what bothers me. She knew how much Coleen Rooney and her family were hurt by Wayne's betrayal, yet she went into the BB house knowing it would all be dragged up again and splashed all over the tabloids, even more so during the world cup. She's a shameless, insensitive, cruel opportunist who doesn't care about other peoples feelings and is only looking out for herself and the last drop that she can milk from a tawdry episode in her life.
And that's not the only one she is using to gain some sort of notoriety either..

[flamingGalah!]

This is what bothers me. She knew how much Coleen Rooney and her family were hurt by Wayne's betrayal, yet she went into the BB house knowing it would all be dragged up again and splashed all over the tabloids, even more so during the world cup. She's a shameless, insensitive, cruel opportunist who doesn't care about other peoples feelings and is only looking out for herself and the last drop that she can milk from a tawdry episode in her life.

Exactly. She isn't just an ex prostitute, she is a disgusting, vile, abusive, nasty piece of work, who just so happens to be an ex prostitute...

[sampvt]

This is what bothers me. She knew how much Coleen Rooney and her family were hurt by Wayne's betrayal, yet she went into the BB house knowing it would all be dragged up again and splashed all over the tabloids, even more so during the world cup. She's a shameless, insensitive, cruel opportunist who doesn't care about other peoples feelings and is only looking out for herself and the last drop that she can milk from that episode in her life.

Sounds like a sound plan to me. She is in there trying her best to screw the program for her own aims, whilst the one she screwed is out there in football land screwing us out of the world cup and his tart of a wife, who incidently cant have been taking care of her man at home, is on holiday screwing someone out of their hard earned by setting a bad example by keeping kids off school which they will be fined for. Everyone is screwing everyone else but isnt it ironic that the only one getting paid is dear old Helen. Whos clever now, lol.

[Kizzy]

This is what bothers me. She knew how much Coleen Rooney and her family were hurt by Wayne's betrayal, yet she went into the BB house knowing it would all be dragged up again and splashed all over the tabloids, even more so during the world cup. She's a shameless, insensitive, cruel opportunist who doesn't care about other peoples feelings and is only looking out for herself and the last drop that she can milk from a tawdry episode in her life.
And that's not the only one she is using to gain some sort of notoriety either..

Coleen has been betrayed by wayne a number of times, she chose to stay with him... wonder why?

[jet]

Sounds like a sound plan to me. She is in there trying her best to screw the program for her own aims, whilst the one she screwed is out there in football land screwing us out of the world cup and his tart of a wife, who incidently cant have been taking care of her man at home, is on holiday screwing someone out of their hard earned by setting a bad example by keeping kids off school which they will be fined for. Everyone is screwing everyone else but isnt it ironic that the only one getting paid is dear old Helen. Whos clever now, lol.

:omg: :umm2:

[Alf]

I'm not serious or miserable, I have a very different interpretation of humour to you though obviously.
I would say name calling is immature too, it's a bit ironic to defend making defamatory remarks and labeling and then complain when someone labels you.
Well then you can go look in just about every thread ever made on this forum and see defamatory remarks about people, and most not made in jest.

I could clearly see that both Eyeball and Toy Soldier were only jesting, it didn't make me laugh but I could clearly see it.

I'd just think to myself sh*te joke and that would be it.

[Daffodil]

This thread also shows some people are so serious and miserable that they cant see a joke when one is out there.

If it's not your kind of humour then so be it, but why go calling people Immature?

Wannashag, why would I call YOU immature? :joker:

[Alf]

Wannashag, why would I call YOU immature? :joker:
I don't know, why would you call me immature?

I hope this punchline is good.

[Toy Soldier]

How about this one?

You don't know what defamation means.

[Marsh.]

Why is every thread containing the word Helen turning into a debate about prostitutes?

:facepalm: So boring.

[Marsh.]

This is what bothers me. She knew how much Coleen Rooney and her family were hurt by Wayne's betrayal, yet she went into the BB house knowing it would all be dragged up again and splashed all over the tabloids, even more so during the world cup. She's a shameless, insensitive, cruel opportunist who doesn't care about other peoples feelings and is only looking out for herself and the last drop that she can milk from a tawdry episode in her life.
And that's not the only one she is using to gain some sort of notoriety either..

And Coleen Rooney has been humiliated and betrayed by Wayne numerous times yet his bank balance keeps her in his bed.

[Kizzy]

You don't know what defamation means.

I do.. Clearly you don't.

Defamation
'Any intentional false communication, either written or spoken, that harms a person's reputation; decreases the respect, regard, or confidence in which a person is held; or induces disparaging, hostile, or disagreeable opinions or feelings against a person.'

[Toy Soldier]

Why is every thread containing the word Helen turning into a debate about prostitutes?

:facepalm: So boring.

True. Someone should start a new thread for hating on Helen just for being a generally awful human being. I feel that the whoring is detracting from this issue and leading some to believe that Helen is disliked only for being a prostitute, and not the 999,999 other entirely negative aspects of her existence.

[Kizzy]

True. Someone should start a new thread for hating on Helen just for being a generally awful human being. I feel that the whoring is detracting from this issue and leading some to believe that Helen is disliked only for being a prostitute, and not the 999,999 other entirely negative aspects of her existence.

Then why is it the one thing you refer to constantly, all your disparaging comments about helen allude to sex in some shape or form.

[Northern Monkey]

For the record,I have nothing against prostitutes,I've often given them a fag out in town and not even asked for a reach around.It was a joke.Gaaawd,Some people are so serious.

[Toy Soldier]

Then why is it the one thing you refer to constantly, all your disparaging comments about helen allude to sex in some shape or form.

They really don't. I've also said that she's aggressive, a bully, a fame ***** (separate to literal), devoid of integrity... The list goes in, to be honest.

Oh and I said that her plastic surgery makes her look like the victim of 80% facial burns. Or maybe an acid attack. Now I don't know what kind of sex you've been having, but USUALLY it doesn't involve lighter fluid. In my experience.

[Kizzy]

They really don't. I've also said that she's aggressive, a bully, a fame ***** (separate to literal), devoid of integrity... The list goes in, to be honest.

Oh and I said that her plastic surgery makes her look like the victim of 80% facial burns. Or maybe an acid attack. Now I don't know what kind of sex you've been having, but USUALLY it doesn't involve lighter fluid. In my experience.

Show me one post that doesn't refer to her as a slut, *****, slag, tramp, dirty, or hooker.

[Toy Soldier]

Show me one post that doesn't refer to her as a slut, *****, slag, tramp, dirty, or hooker.

Ahh now that's just misleading, just because it's mentioned SOMEWHERE in every post does not negate the fact that plenty of other things are mentioned in those posts.

Show me one post about Winston that doesn't refer to him as male?

Can't find one?

Oh, well then I guess every post abouw Winston must be about how he's a male with a penis! No one has ever said anything else about him!


You said that all of my COMMENTS allude to sex or her being a prostitute. That's untrue. It may well be mentioned SOMEWHERE in most posts. Different things.

[Verbal]

Ahh now that's just misleading, just because it's mentioned SOMEWHERE in every post does not negate the fact that plenty of other things are mentioned in those posts.

Show me one post about Winston that doesn't refer to him as male?

Can't find one?

Oh, well then I guess every post abouw Winston must be about how he's a male with a penis! No one has ever said anything else about him!


You said that all of my COMMENTS allude to sex or her being a prostitute. That's untrue. It may well be mentioned SOMEWHERE in most posts. Different things.

And the award for the most ridiculous argument of the summer goes to....

[Verbal]

Coleen has been betrayed by wayne a number of times, she chose to stay with him... wonder why?

I'm not fully sure why she decided to stay with the premiership footballing, multi millionaire Wayne Rooney. Maybe it is his good looks.:shrug:

[Kizzy]

Ahh now that's just misleading, just because it's mentioned SOMEWHERE in every post does not negate the fact that plenty of other things are mentioned in those posts.

Show me one post about Winston that doesn't refer to him as male?

Can't find one?

Oh, well then I guess every post abouw Winston must be about how he's a male with a penis! No one has ever said anything else about him!


You said that all of my COMMENTS allude to sex or her being a prostitute. That's untrue. It may well be mentioned SOMEWHERE in most posts. Different things.

It's mentioned in every post alongside several other insults yes I agree, your straw man argument relating to winston is not relevant here.

[wormsinfested]

http://thetalentzone.co.uk/wp-content/themes/project-ar2-master/thumbs/rooney.jpg

They need to make a task where they have to guess who this ***** is:joker:

[armand.kay]

With Helen that's only 50p, a fiver will get you bareback anal.

Ash has opened a tab, he says he'll get her two chup-a-chup lollies and a Happy Meal when they get out. She offered to rim him if he'd throw in a McFlurry, but that a bit steep for his money.

Omg.

[Toy Soldier]

It's mentioned in every post alongside several other insults yes I agree, your straw man argument relating to winston is not relevant here.

...That's not what a straw man argument is.

...*adds "straw man arguments" to the list of terms that Kizzy uses without having any idea what they mean, alongside defamation*

[lily.]

...That's not what a straw man argument is.

...*adds "straw man arguments" to the list of terms that Kizzy uses without having any idea what they mean, alongside defamation*

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