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daniel-lewis-1985
08-07-2014, 11:47 PM
So its very annoying to have Judy ****ing James analysing an over edited clip and say Ashleigh retreated into herself and was terrified.

The actual unedited (watch below) clip tells a different story and shows Ashleigh very much stood up for herself. I don't know why it was cut because it was far more entertaining.

-wL5UeXEUKc

Hofman
08-07-2014, 11:54 PM
Totally different perspective, fare play to Ashleigh! Terrible really that their airtime wasn't balanced fairly.

Jase.
08-07-2014, 11:57 PM
"**** me, you're an absolute embarrassment"

Queen Ashleigh slaying :hugesmile:

Creggle
09-07-2014, 12:00 AM
You have to look at it like this, either BB wants her to become the victim in the publics mind (who majority hate Helen) to help her this week.

OR

They could of shown the entire thing, given the public a chance to build respect for Ashleigh and the support of all the Helen haters.

I think BB wants her gone personally, giving Marlon the chance to save himself screwed her over completely, as she is now the main target, and editing tonights episode in the way they did has not given her the support she may need. I hope she doesn't go, because she's just perfect tbh, but she needs a bigger miracle than Ash got.

mooo
09-07-2014, 12:01 AM
Eugh BB whyy

Hofman
09-07-2014, 12:02 AM
Watched a few times now to catch everything.

Totally understand why Mark got on his soap box now.

waylander1973
09-07-2014, 12:07 AM
Why does people here think last show edit did hurt ashleigh, helen just walk up and yelled at ashleigh and she stayed silent, mark and winston step in at some point and gave the impression that helen overreacted.

Alf
09-07-2014, 12:08 AM
Ashleigh was terrified, you could tell in her face and her nervous responses.

The girl was under attack from a loud mouth yob in front of a huddle of people.

She wasn't prepared for that and it caught her off guard which left her in a vulnerable position. It's a good job Winston stepped in.

But why would anyone want to get rid of Ashleigh now? even the people championing Helen, this was just the start, Ashleigh will fight back in time, she's no pushover. Why would you so called drama lovers want rid of someone at the centre of the drama?

Jords
09-07-2014, 12:21 AM
"**** me, you're an absolute embarrassment"

Queen Ashleigh slaying :hugesmile:

:joker:

Good to see a 'fuller' clip. Ashleigh handled it fine.

tbh I found Kim most annoying just sitting there yapping away

daniel-lewis-1985
09-07-2014, 12:41 AM
Ashleigh was terrified, you could tell in her face and her nervous responses.

The girl was under attack from a loud mouth yob in front of a huddle of people.

She wasn't prepared for that and it caught her off guard which left her in a vulnerable position. It's a good job Winston stepped in.

But why would anyone want to get rid of Ashleigh now? even the people championing Helen, this was just the start, Ashleigh will fight back in time, she's no pushover. Why would you so called drama lovers want rid of someone at the centre of the drama?

Im guessing you didn't take the 2 minutes to watch that 2 minute clip at the top of the page where Ashleigh tells Helen to **** of and calls her an embaresment then.

rusticgal
09-07-2014, 12:46 AM
At the end of the day Ashleigh seriously needs to stay.....otherwise it's all about Helen and her gang...oh and the boring love fest....

andybigbro
09-07-2014, 01:06 AM
Yeah they should have shown this

waylander1973
09-07-2014, 01:21 AM
Ashleigh was terrified, you could tell in her face and her nervous responses.

The girl was under attack from a loud mouth yob in front of a huddle of people.

She wasn't prepared for that and it caught her off guard which left her in a vulnerable position. It's a good job Winston stepped in.

But why would anyone want to get rid of Ashleigh now? even the people championing Helen, this was just the start, Ashleigh will fight back in time, she's no pushover. Why would you so called drama lovers want rid of someone at the centre of the drama?

Personally swear I thought heard her start to break down right towards the end of the video, might explain why the mark and winston vs helen and kim happened.

Amy Jade
09-07-2014, 01:33 AM
I'm a bit confused.

When BB showed Ashleigh saying barely anything people say she handled it with dignity.

When a clip shows up of her reacting and calling Helen back she is a hero?

The hypocrisy of it all.

Marsh.
09-07-2014, 01:34 AM
I'm a bit confused.

When BB showed Ashleigh saying barely anything people say she handled it with dignity.

When a clip shows up of her reacting and calling Helen back she is a hero?

The hypocrisy of it all.

Translation: Ashleigh's sh*t smells of roses no matter what. :joker:

ImBatman
09-07-2014, 02:02 AM
Im more inclined to go with what Judi James says rather then some non trained person on here.

Amy Jade
09-07-2014, 02:06 AM
Im more inclined to go with what Judi James says rather then some non trained person on here.

Judi James is terrible though :(

Creggle
09-07-2014, 02:06 AM
Im more inclined to go with what Judi James says rather then some non trained person on here.

:thumbs2:

Jake.
09-07-2014, 06:02 AM
I'm a bit confused.

When BB showed Ashleigh saying barely anything people say she handled it with dignity.

When a clip shows up of her reacting and calling Helen back she is a hero?

The hypocrisy of it all.

Yet you called her a coward after being shown the edited clip, so where's your praise after being shown that she stood up for herself?

Gusto Brunt
09-07-2014, 06:04 AM
Helen totally overreacted. She made an embarrassment of herself ranting away.

Ashleigh was more dignified. I never thought at any point Ashleigh was intimidated, but she did look a bit shell shocked. More to do with what BB had done showing the clips rather than Helen's pathetic rants.

Ammi
09-07-2014, 06:05 AM
Helen totally overreacted. She made an embarrassment of herself ranting away.

Ashleigh was more dignified. I never thought at any point Ashleigh was intimidated, but she did look a bit shell shocked. More to do with what BB had done showing the clips rather than Helen's pathetic rants.

..I don't think it could have not been intimidating tbh, but I think she held herself together very well...

Verbal
09-07-2014, 06:08 AM
Ashleigh was terrified, you could tell in her face and her nervous responses.

The girl was under attack from a loud mouth yob in front of a huddle of people.

She wasn't prepared for that and it caught her off guard which left her in a vulnerable position. It's a good job Winston stepped in.

But why would anyone want to get rid of Ashleigh now? even the people championing Helen, this was just the start, Ashleigh will fight back in time, she's no pushover. Why would you so called drama lovers want rid of someone at the centre of the drama?

:joker: yea ok

She's been exposed as someone who will gladly screw over anyone that stands in her path.

Gusto Brunt
09-07-2014, 06:10 AM
If Ashleigh was scared of Helen she would have got up and ran to the bedroom and cried.

She didn't. She sat where she was. It was Helen who walked off.

As I said, Ashleigh was more shell shocked how BB had shown the clips. No way she Ashleigh scared of Helen.

Helen was a total embarrassment. I'm very surprised people see it any other way.

JTM45
09-07-2014, 06:17 AM
I just couldn't believe Helen giving it all the "people will see you for what you really are and so will all of the other housemates...etc. etc.".

They'll all be too busy finding out about who you really are and what you've gotten up to in the past to even care about what Ashleigh (along with pretty much every other housemate in there) has said about other housemates behind their backs!
If they had showed everyone else's Diary Room rants about their fellow housemates Ashleigh's would have paled into insignificance ffs!!!! Helen's bitching and calling other housemates C,U en tees would have topped the bloody lot of them put together!

It just shows what a sh*tty show they're producing these days when the only thing they have left to resort to to stir up some footage is to show housemates supposedly private diary room conversations that were only shared in confidence! No wonder they get less and less DR footage from people year after year. You're pretty much guaranteed to have it thrown back in your face when they inevitably run out of proper entertainment!!!:bored:

They need to fire the bloody lot of 'em and start over with a production team that actually know how to produce an entertaining TV show!!!

JohnnyBB
09-07-2014, 09:14 AM
They cut a lot last night the girls coming out screaming laughting at ashleigh helen takeing the piss out of her voice, kimberley allmost in tears by asleigh and the boys it was NOT a true reflection what we seen and im sure danielle stood up for her im sure of that, not to memtion helen going back in the house screaming shes an fing bitch

sampvt
09-07-2014, 09:27 AM
You are all missing one very vital point....Did Helen back down.....answer is no.

Did Ashleigh offer anything except nasty rhetoric....answer is no.

Plain verdict, no matter how long the clip was is that Ashleigh got her arse wiped by an angry adversary and she learned nothing. She went straight back to closet bitching behind helens back.

When the day comes that Ashleigh has the balls to confront someone face to face, i will give her kudos. Untill now her greatest triumph, according to her fans, is that she stood her ground. Sorry but her ground was there because she is a sly little bitch that talks crap behind everyones back.

That my friends is the whole crux of the matter. Helen might be a wanker, but at least she is an honest wanker.

kefln
09-07-2014, 09:38 AM
If Ashleigh was scared of Helen she would have got up and ran to the bedroom and cried.

She didn't. She sat where she was. It was Helen who walked off.
Not the first time Helen has done that.

She walked off on Jale, despite the fact that Jale barely said a word. She walked off on Daneille. She walked off on Matthew, then followed him.

I think she needs to regroup if someone responds, even slightly.

As I said, Ashleigh was more shell shocked how BB had shown the clips. No way she Ashleigh scared of Helen.
BB should never show the DR clips.

The DR is supposed to be a confident for the the HMs. Why would, could, a person open up and let BB know how they are really feeling if there is no trust.

If BB ask Ashleigh into the DR and ask how she's feeling about Friday, I hope she tells them to bog off. Because if they actually cared, the DR clip would never have been played.

HM's should learn from this. Talking to BB is only feeding them ammunition. The DR is supposed to be a safe place. It should be about the viewers gaining insight.

Helen was a total embarrassment. I'm very surprised people see it any other way.
Helen has been an embarrassment from day 2. But people will always hate the pretty blonde more ;)

smeagol
09-07-2014, 09:49 AM
That low life scum helen has really got a jealousy problem with ashleigh being 18. its the most craziest thing ever. never seen someone so obsessed with age. she acts like shes 70

Ellen
09-07-2014, 09:49 AM
You are all missing one very vital point....Did Helen back down.....answer is no.

Did Ashleigh offer anything except nasty rhetoric....answer is no.

Plain verdict, no matter how long the clip was is that Ashleigh got her arse wiped by an angry adversary and she learned nothing. She went straight back to closet bitching behind helens back.

When the day comes that Ashleigh has the balls to confront someone face to face, i will give her kudos. Untill now her greatest triumph, according to her fans, is that she stood her ground. Sorry but her ground was there because she is a sly little bitch that talks crap behind everyones back.

That my friends is the whole crux of the matter. Helen might be a wanker, but at least she is an honest wanker.

This :thumbs:

smeagol
09-07-2014, 09:53 AM
That my friends is the whole crux of the matter. Helen might be a wanker, but at least she is an honest wanker.

nothing honest about her. bullying people is not being honest or real or whatever claptrap people say.

jackc1806
09-07-2014, 10:07 AM
Hate when they edit things to create a different perspective

Northern Monkey
09-07-2014, 10:25 AM
I blame Jale.Get her out now!

Jake.
09-07-2014, 12:10 PM
:joker: yea ok

She's been exposed as someone who will gladly screw over anyone that stands in her path.

So she deserves to be scrutinized for playing a game on a gameshow?

Miranda123
09-07-2014, 12:28 PM
You have to look at it like this, either BB wants her to become the victim in the publics mind (who majority hate Helen) to help her this week.

OR

They could of shown the entire thing, given the public a chance to build respect for Ashleigh and the support of all the Helen haters.

I think BB wants her gone personally, giving Marlon the chance to save himself screwed her over completely, as she is now the main target, and editing tonights episode in the way they did has not given her the support she may need. I hope she doesn't go, because she's just perfect tbh, but she needs a bigger miracle than Ash got.

I think you are wrong about producers, they knew that Ashleigh would press the button so they tried to save her, but my hero Marlon got there first

Marlon: Searched for the hero inside himself........and found it!!

Miranda123
09-07-2014, 12:31 PM
nothing honest about her. bullying people is not being honest or real or whatever claptrap people say.

how is it bullying, when there is one person, having a go at another??

Jale said f..k all

Kim said f..k all

In fact mark & winston stood up for the little bitch even though she was having a row with Just Helen.............double standards much

If the little girl cant take it, she should not have entered a houseful off grown ups....hopefully she can go home to her Mammy on Friday

Miranda123
09-07-2014, 12:33 PM
Not the first time Helen has done that.

She walked off on Jale, despite the fact that Jale barely said a word. She walked off on Daneille. She walked off on Matthew, then followed him.

I think she needs to regroup if someone responds, even slightly.


BB should never show the DR clips.

The DR is supposed to be a confident for the the HMs. Why would, could, a person open up and let BB know how they are really feeling if there is no trust.

If BB ask Ashleigh into the DR and ask how she's feeling about Friday, I hope she tells them to bog off. Because if they actually cared, the DR clip would never have been played.

HM's should learn from this. Talking to BB is only feeding them ammunition. The DR is supposed to be a safe place. It should be about the viewers gaining insight.


Helen has been an embarrassment from day 2. But people will always hate the pretty blonde more ;)

and yet if Ashleigh & Danielle/Chris had got to see DR chats, you would have loved it lol

#doublestandards

Verbal
09-07-2014, 12:34 PM
So she deserves to be scrutinized for playing a game on a gameshow?

Erm...yea:huh:

kefln
09-07-2014, 01:22 PM
I think you are wrong about producers, they knew that Ashleigh would press the button so they tried to save her, but my hero Marlon got there first

Marlon: Searched for the hero inside himself........and found it!!

Have to love how people "blame" Ashleigh for things she didn't do.

When your argument is weak, make things up :thumbs2: :joker:

kefln
09-07-2014, 01:27 PM
how is it bullying, when there is one person, having a go at another??

Jale said f..k all

Kim said f..k all

In fact mark & winston stood up for the little bitch even though she was having a row with Just Helen.............double standards much

If the little girl cant take it, she should not have entered a houseful off grown ups....hopefully she can go home to her Mammy on Friday
Can you please pick out the point where Ashleigh couldn't take it.

Or should it be pointed out that she handled the situation like an adult? Unlike Helen who could only resort to mocking accents.

Because when your argument is weak - make stuff up - like calling the more mature one "little girl".

:joker:

Kazanne
09-07-2014, 01:28 PM
You are all missing one very vital point....Did Helen back down.....answer is no.

Did Ashleigh offer anything except nasty rhetoric....answer is no.

Plain verdict, no matter how long the clip was is that Ashleigh got her arse wiped by an angry adversary and she learned nothing. She went straight back to closet bitching behind helens back.

When the day comes that Ashleigh has the balls to confront someone face to face, i will give her kudos. Untill now her greatest triumph, according to her fans, is that she stood her ground. Sorry but her ground was there because she is a sly little bitch that talks crap behind everyones back.

That my friends is the whole crux of the matter. Helen might be a wanker, but at least she is an honest wanker.

:worship::worship::worship:

daniel-lewis-1985
09-07-2014, 01:43 PM
Im more inclined to go with what Judi James says rather then some non trained person on here.

Judi James saw and examined a different edit so she hasn't actually given an expert opinion on this footage.

Thanks.

daniel-lewis-1985
09-07-2014, 01:48 PM
You are all missing one very vital point....Did Helen back down.....answer is no.

Did Ashleigh offer anything except nasty rhetoric....answer is no.

Plain verdict, no matter how long the clip was is that Ashleigh got her arse wiped by an angry adversary and she learned nothing. She went straight back to closet bitching behind helens back.

When the day comes that Ashleigh has the balls to confront someone face to face, i will give her kudos. Untill now her greatest triumph, according to her fans, is that she stood her ground. Sorry but her ground was there because she is a sly little bitch that talks crap behind everyones back.

That my friends is the whole crux of the matter. Helen might be a wanker, but at least she is an honest wanker.

No the point of the thread is to show that Ashleigh did actually answer Helen back yet on BOTS their expert pshycologist gave a body language diagnosis of the situation which was wrongly edited and made out to look like a totally different situation.

So the point of this thread is to show that he producers cut that whole argument to give an incorrect portrayal on what actually happened as people were discussing about Ashleigh just sitting there and doing nothing.

Forum members were debating over something that was untrue so basically BB wasted everyones time on here.

Ashleigh said to Helen "No shut up, im not talking to you you never let people talk your a ****ing embaresment" is that retorical?

daniel-lewis-1985
09-07-2014, 01:53 PM
how is it bullying, when there is one person, having a go at another??

Jale said f..k all

Kim said f..k all

In fact mark & winston stood up for the little bitch even though she was having a row with Just Helen.............double standards much

If the little girl cant take it, she should not have entered a houseful off grown ups....hopefully she can go home to her Mammy on Friday

At one point all 3 were saying something to her hence Mark and Winston saying they had to step in because it was 3 against 1.

Seriously I ****ing hate the fact we have no live feed because when we see what actually happens it makes me question the whole show.

Who knows Helen could be a ray of sunshine and Jale could be the house beauty lol

Alf
09-07-2014, 01:53 PM
Im guessing you didn't take the 2 minutes to watch that 2 minute clip at the top of the page where Ashleigh tells Helen to **** of and calls her an embaresment then.
No I didn't, that was very ignorant of me.

I shall watch it now.

daniel-lewis-1985
09-07-2014, 01:57 PM
No I didn't, that was very ignorant of me.

I shall watch it now.

Well not really its just you wasting your time if you don't take time to watch it then you cant really give an opinion.

Its like reviewing a song without ever hearing it.

Alf
09-07-2014, 02:00 PM
Ok I watched it

So why would people want to evict a girl that stands up to the house bully?

If that was Jale she would have just laid down to Helen like she did at the start and become one of Helen's merry followers like she is now.

Alf
09-07-2014, 02:02 PM
Well not really its just you wasting your time if you don't take time to watch it then you cant really give an opinion.

Its like reviewing a song without ever hearing it.
I wasn't being sarcastic, I genuinely mean't that it was ignorant of me to not watch the video before commenting.

I just commented on what I saw in the highlights show.

daniel-lewis-1985
09-07-2014, 02:03 PM
I wasn't being sarcastic, I genuinely mean't that it was ignorant of me to not watch the video before commenting.

I just commented on what I saw in the highlights show.

Oh lol sorry :)

I was so shocked when watching the highlights last night I was surprised no one else pointed it out.

Jack_
09-07-2014, 02:22 PM
Wasn't gonna watch this cause I couldn't be bothered but I did anyway and wtf...I was pretty disappointed in Ashleigh's for her lack of response last night, this paints a totally different picture than the edit did. It's things like these that prove why we need live feed

daniel-lewis-1985
09-07-2014, 02:53 PM
Wasn't gonna watch this cause I couldn't be bothered but I did anyway and wtf...I was pretty disappointed in Ashleigh's for her lack of response last night, this paints a totally different picture than the edit did. It's things like these that prove why we need live feed

Yeah I didn't think people would even bother to watch it because they do just believe the edit.

Thankfully 153 people took a few minutes to realise how deceiving the editing is this year.

Marsh.
09-07-2014, 02:59 PM
To be fair, I don't need to watch that to know the editing is sh*t. It's been that way for at least 4 years.

daniel-lewis-1985
09-07-2014, 03:02 PM
To be fair, I don't need to watch that to know the editing is sh*t. It's been that way for at least 4 years.

I know but when you see it as blatant as it is here its just ridiculous.

rionablue
09-07-2014, 03:21 PM
You are all missing one very vital point....Did Helen back down.....answer is no.

Did Ashleigh offer anything except nasty rhetoric....answer is no.

Plain verdict, no matter how long the clip was is that Ashleigh got her arse wiped by an angry adversary and she learned nothing. She went straight back to closet bitching behind helens back.

When the day comes that Ashleigh has the balls to confront someone face to face, i will give her kudos. Untill now her greatest triumph, according to her fans, is that she stood her ground. Sorry but her ground was there because she is a sly little bitch that talks crap behind everyones back.

That my friends is the whole crux of the matter. Helen might be a wanker, but at least she is an honest wanker.


Absoloutely brilliant post. People have blinkers on when it comes to Ashleigh but lets be fair. She would have nothing to worry about or no confrontation if she hadn't bitched in the first place. And all her bitching etc was done away from the group. Its time for her to face the music. And I despise Helen so its not that I am a Helen fan but Ashleigh is heading for the title of biggest bitch in there. Its a shame. She could have got involved more in the group and acted her age.

rionablue
09-07-2014, 03:24 PM
how is it bullying, when there is one person, having a go at another??

Jale said f..k all

Kim said f..k all

In fact mark & winston stood up for the little bitch even though she was having a row with Just Helen.............double standards much

If the little girl cant take it, she should not have entered a houseful off grown ups....hopefully she can go home to her Mammy on Friday

:dance::dance::dance::dance::dance: THIS

Samm
09-07-2014, 03:29 PM
Ashleigh :clap1:

Judi James is so jealous of Ashleigh's young looks

Mystic Mock
09-07-2014, 03:36 PM
Ashleigh was terrified, you could tell in her face and her nervous responses.

The girl was under attack from a loud mouth yob in front of a huddle of people.

She wasn't prepared for that and it caught her off guard which left her in a vulnerable position. It's a good job Winston stepped in.

But why would anyone want to get rid of Ashleigh now? even the people championing Helen, this was just the start, Ashleigh will fight back in time, she's no pushover. Why would you so called drama lovers want rid of someone at the centre of the drama?

I'm a Helen fan and I'm one of probably 3 people of the Helen community that wants Ashleigh to stay lol.

rionablue
09-07-2014, 03:37 PM
The way I see it is that Helen of course dealt with it wrongly she should never have attacked Ashleigh in front of the gang. Jale dealt with it the right way. She took Chris aside and told him exactly how she felt and what she had seen. Why would anyone be gunning to get Jale out. Kimberly didn't want to go into it. She refused to talk to Ashleigh about it when Helen was going for blood. In all fairness Ashleigh has bitched more about Kim than Helen so of the three who saw the clips Helen of course headed straight to Ashleigh to tell her off.

Now in all fairness Ashleigh has only herself to blame that the girls are so annoyed with her. She turned from a rather sweet but quiet young girl who hung around with Kim and Danielle into a vicious and vile bitch who hasn't the COURAGE to confront the people she has issues with only bitch about them in the diary room or behind their backs.

As for the diary room stuff this has always been shown in highlights shows. In fact a few years ago a show as dedicated to diary room uncut. At no point has BB assured housemates that what they say will remain private. Weighing up the pro's and con's of Jale and Ashleigh Jale wins by a margin. I know Ashleigh fans are trying to pick Jale off so Ashleigh wont go but Jale doesn't deserve to be evicted. Of the housemates that are up I am afraid Ashleigh deserves to go

Jack_
09-07-2014, 03:39 PM
Absoloutely brilliant post. People have blinkers on when it comes to Ashleigh but lets be fair. She would have nothing to worry about or no confrontation if she hadn't bitched in the first place. And all her bitching etc was done away from the group. Its time for her to face the music. And I despise Helen so its not that I am a Helen fan but Ashleigh is heading for the title of biggest bitch in there. Its a shame. She could have got involved more in the group and acted her age.

Most people bitch like Ashleigh does and especially most 18 year old girls. If you try and pretend you don't you're lying to yourself

It's hardly the crime of the century, the hatred on here would make you think she's raped and murdered all your families

daniel-lewis-1985
09-07-2014, 03:40 PM
Absoloutely brilliant post. People have blinkers on when it comes to Ashleigh but lets be fair. She would have nothing to worry about or no confrontation if she hadn't bitched in the first place. And all her bitching etc was done away from the group. Its time for her to face the music. And I despise Helen so its not that I am a Helen fan but Ashleigh is heading for the title of biggest bitch in there. Its a shame. She could have got involved more in the group and acted her age.

Missing the point of the thread.

Its about how badly edited the argument was leading to a total different portrayal of the actual events.

As a viewer I don't think any of us should think that's ok so obviously posts like this and the one you're responding to have obviously been made because you didn't watch a short clip with evidence showing it was a shambles from the editing team.

This was far more entertaining to watch aswell over last nights edit. I think people would have rather watched Ashleigh tell Helen to **** off and call her an embaressment than a fake portrayal of her cowering in fear of the almighty Helen.

Even though I do like Helen lol Helen was pretty much edited as it happened so kudos to that, but that should be the case anyway.

Jack_
09-07-2014, 03:40 PM
The way I see it is that Helen of course dealt with it wrongly she should never have attacked Ashleigh in front of the gang. Jale dealt with it the right way. She took Chris aside and told him exactly how she felt and what she had seen. Why would anyone be gunning to get Jale out. Kimberly didn't want to go into it. She refused to talk to Ashleigh about it when Helen was going for blood. In all fairness Ashleigh has bitched more about Kim than Helen so of the three who saw the clips Helen of course headed straight to Ashleigh to tell her off.

Now in all fairness Ashleigh has only herself to blame that the girls are so annoyed with her. She turned from a rather sweet but quiet young girl who hung around with Kim and Danielle into a vicious and vile bitch who hasn't the COURAGE to confront the people she has issues with only bitch about them in the diary room or behind their backs.

As for the diary room stuff this has always been shown in highlights shows. In fact a few years ago a show as dedicated to diary room uncut. At no point has BB assured housemates that what they say will remain private. Weighing up the pro's and con's of Jale and Ashleigh Jale wins by a margin. I know Ashleigh fans are trying to pick Jale off so Ashleigh wont go but Jale doesn't deserve to be evicted. Of the housemates that are up I am afraid Ashleigh deserves to go

lol no, when Ashleigh offers more to the show than Christopher and Chris do that's just not true

daniel-lewis-1985
09-07-2014, 03:43 PM
The way I see it is that Helen of course dealt with it wrongly she should never have attacked Ashleigh in front of the gang. Jale dealt with it the right way. She took Chris aside and told him exactly how she felt and what she had seen. Why would anyone be gunning to get Jale out. Kimberly didn't want to go into it. She refused to talk to Ashleigh about it when Helen was going for blood. In all fairness Ashleigh has bitched more about Kim than Helen so of the three who saw the clips Helen of course headed straight to Ashleigh to tell her off.

Now in all fairness Ashleigh has only herself to blame that the girls are so annoyed with her. She turned from a rather sweet but quiet young girl who hung around with Kim and Danielle into a vicious and vile bitch who hasn't the COURAGE to confront the people she has issues with only bitch about them in the diary room or behind their backs.

As for the diary room stuff this has always been shown in highlights shows. In fact a few years ago a show as dedicated to diary room uncut. At no point has BB assured housemates that what they say will remain private. Weighing up the pro's and con's of Jale and Ashleigh Jale wins by a margin. I know Ashleigh fans are trying to pick Jale off so Ashleigh wont go but Jale doesn't deserve to be evicted. Of the housemates that are up I am afraid Ashleigh deserves to go

I think you're wrong about Jale to be honest. She does this whole taking her arguments for a one on one and openly lets everyone know that she wont do this infront of anyone.

This is to gain some sort of respect but in actuality I believe she does it so she can sit with that person one on one and intimidate them with no one else there to but in an give an opinon that challenges hers.

Mystic Mock
09-07-2014, 03:45 PM
Most people bitch like Ashleigh does and especially most 18 year old girls. If you try and pretend you don't you're lying to yourself

It's hardly the crime of the century, the hatred on here would make you think she's raped and murdered all your families

Lol I know it's ridiculous.

Although I bet most people wouldn't turn Ashleigh down if she offered them sex.:joker:

Marsh.
09-07-2014, 03:46 PM
I'd rather have sex with a bear trap and that is no exaggeration.

Mystic Mock
09-07-2014, 03:47 PM
I'd rather have sex with a bear trap and that is no exaggeration.

You could always have Kimbot, I heard Steven wants a threesome.:joker:

sampvt
09-07-2014, 03:47 PM
Most people bitch like Ashleigh does and especially most 18 year old girls. If you try and pretend you don't you're lying to yourself

It's hardly the crime of the century, the hatred on here would make you think she's raped and murdered all your families

Jack, once again you are getting beyond yourself. If someone does not agree with your ideas, they are deluded or lying to themselves. Since when did you get a degree in life mate. Stop insulting people and offer alternative suggestions or evidence that is devoid of silly comments. Different folks, different strokes etc etc.

MeMyselfAndI
09-07-2014, 03:49 PM
Can't be dealing with this not being shown? It missed most of the awful ganging up on her & aggressive attacks on Ashleigh, also missed her sticking up for herself & proving Helen's hypocrisy, why is the show so against Ashleigh?

daniel-lewis-1985
09-07-2014, 03:56 PM
Can't be dealing with this not being shown? It missed most of the awful ganging up on her & aggressive attacks on Ashleigh, also missed her sticking up for herself & proving Helen's hypocrisy, why is the show so against Ashleigh?

It makes me so angry and not just because of Ashleigh not getting to get her point seen by the viewers but also that they showed about 25 minutes of Kim and Steven when they could have been showing what we all wanted to see.

Ashleigh finally have it out with Helen and vice versa.

It just shows the producers have no idea what the viewers see as entertainment. They saw the reaction "open it" had then totally went nuts over the showmance, no BB we want to see a fair representation of the house and not just a focus on 2 housemates.

Jake.
09-07-2014, 05:27 PM
Erm...yea:huh:

Well no, because that defeats the object of going on the show in the first place

kistar
09-07-2014, 06:04 PM
how is it bullying, when there is one person, having a go at another??

Jale said f..k all

Kim said f..k all

In fact mark & winston stood up for the little bitch even though she was having a row with Just Helen.............double standards much

If the little girl cant take it, she should not have entered a houseful off grown ups....hopefully she can go home to her Mammy on Friday

So many people jealous of Ashleigh