Morals: Helen v Kimberly

[Daffodil]

Who is worse:
1. An ex-prostitute who no longer trades.
or
2. A savvy model who will do tacky sex on TV to further her career?

[Kizzy]

I don't agree with moralising, shame the 2yrs helen spent as an escort will never be forgotten.
Neither.

[Niamh.]

You forgot Steven, if you're going to label Kim then why leave him out? Oh he's a man, I see :think:

[Daffodil]

You forgot Steven, if you're going to label Kim then why leave him out? Oh he's a man, I see :think:

OK, add Steven or...

3. A naive 'entrepreneur' who doesn't mind showing off his very basic sexual techniques on TV for... publicity? Magazine deals? To be the new host of 'Deal or No Deal?'

[Niamh.]

OK, add Steven or...

3. A naive 'entrepreneur' who doesn't mind showing off his very basic sexual techniques on TV for... publicity? Magazine deals? To be the new host of 'Deal or No Deal?'

I'll go with 3 then :smug:

[Kizzy]

Oh yeah the guy who sacked his own mother 5 times?... he always gets forgotten in all these takes of mercenary behaviours.

[Livia]

Out of the two original two people suggested I'd put Kimberly as worse than Helen. Only for the reason that she supposedly has a good education and great qualifiactions and she's slagging her bits to make a living.

[smudgie]

Kimberly.

Not nice to go and play with Captain Birdseyeon tv whilst your live in boyfriend is probably watching.

Tart.

[Josy]

Neither

Kimberly.

Not nice to go and play with Captain Birdseyeon tv whilst your live in boyfriend is probably watching.

Tart.

Omg lmao :laugh3:

[Northern Monkey]

Nothing wrong with either imo.Possibly Helen for shamelessly selling a story to the papers.

[Patricia4]

I cant pick they are both bad buggers.

[Crimson Dynamo]

both are actually disgusting but Kimbot more so as Helen is far thicker

[MarcusMel]

Nothing wrong with either imo.Possibly Helen for shamelessly selling a story to the papers.

There is a court order forbiding Helen to speak about it. Her friend was the one who leaked the story. Please keep the facts straight.

[the truth]

You forgot Steven, if you're going to label Kim then why leave him out? Oh he's a man, I see :think:

you and others always label male housemates?

[Mystic Mock]

Well 2 because we don't know Helen's circumstances as to why she went into that career path.

[Heaven = Winner]

2 and 3 because Helen hasn't opened it in the house yet.

[Marsh.]

She's being fingered on Big Brother by a creepy posh guy to further her career? :worry:

[Jack_]

Neither obviously? There's nothing wrong with prostitution so long as it's legal and consensual and I don't see the issue with having sex in the Big Brother house either. If you wouldn't do it personally that's fine, but just because other people aren't bothered about cameras or other people it doesn't make them any less of a person than you are. Live and let live

[Niamh.]

you and others always label male housemates?

Have I really, how and what label have I used? :think:

[rionablue]

Neither obviously? There's nothing wrong with prostitution so long as it's legal and consensual and I don't see the issue with having sex in the Big Brother house either. If you wouldn't do it personally that's fine, but just because other people aren't bothered about cameras or other people it any less of a person than you are. Live and let live

Perfectly said Jack as usual. Why the hell are people judge and jury on other peoples lives. We don't know for sure if Kim has had sex and even if she has why should be care? Sex and touching and stuff has been happening in the house every year. Why single out Kim. And Helen (even though I don't agree with what she has done in her past) is a different person now. I still don't like her but that is because of her mannerisms and ignorance in the house NOT because of what she did before

[smeagol]

no money exchanged hands so kim can do what she wants

helen has never had morals she probaly thinks morals is a std

[Marsh.]

Have I really, how and what label have I used? :think:

You called Christopher a "sexy bastard". Men are not objects! :fist:

[Kazanne]

Nothing wrong with either imo.Possibly Helen for shamelessly selling a story to the papers.

She didn't:shrug:

[the truth]

Neither obviously? There's nothing wrong with prostitution so long as it's legal and consensual and I don't see the issue with having sex in the Big Brother house either. If you wouldn't do it personally that's fine, but just because other people aren't bothered about cameras or other people it doesn't make them any less of a person than you are. Live and let live

except feminists want to make it illegal for men to seek prostitutes and legal for men to provide it....where does that fit in with your pro prostitution / male bashing dogma?

[Jack_]

except feminists want to make it illegal for men to seek prostitutes and legal for men to provide it....where does that fit in with your pro prostitution / male bashing dogma?

I mean where do I even start

1) Where's the evidence feminists want to do all of what you've just claimed?
2) There's different types of feminists
3) I wouldn't agree with that if it even turns out to be true
4) Will you stop putting words and ideas into my mouth and labelling me please, I'm not anti-men and there's no evidence that I am

[Razor]

Both are low life.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Neither? Helen made it clear that she had no choice and prostitution isn't anything she's proud of and Kimberly explained that she gets a thrill out of being naked for people so who cares? I get that Channel 5 is all about exploiting women and slut-shaming but this thread should be locked tbh

[Marsh.]

except feminists want to make it illegal for men to seek prostitutes and legal for men to provide it....where does that fit in with your pro prostitution / male bashing dogma?

:joker: What a load of crap.

[Jack_]

As far as I'm concerned anyone that claims to be a feminist but doesn't think women should be allowed to do what they want with their own bodies is not a feminist

[Niamh.]

You called Christopher a "sexy bastard". Men are not objects! :fist:

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