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sampvt
10-07-2014, 12:24 PM
This year is full of tossers and no hopers, so I am drawn towards making a rather rash investment. Not a lot, just a score on Helen. She could bloody win this the way things are going. I can see Mark, Jale and Winston crashing and burning the way things are going and someone like Helen could sail through as the only wanker in there devoid of deceptive means.

Nobody loves a game player since Aaron made it clear that the program we love is there to be used for financial gain and we are the puppets.

Helen is the only non game player in there, she is just a humongous, ignorant and potty mouthed twat, but she is entertaining and most importantly, she is constant.

Josy
10-07-2014, 12:25 PM
Hmm I don't think she could win Sam, only being honest but her past is always going to be held against her by a lot of people and then the way she's been in the house nah I just can't see her winning.

In fact she could save one of the hm's from drowning on a live show and someone would probably say it was her fault.

Pete.
10-07-2014, 12:27 PM
I doubt she will win... If I was a betting man I would place it on Mark or Chris

michael21
10-07-2014, 12:28 PM
helen 33/1 to win outright a better bet is top female @9/2 the way the voting going the female seem to be getting voted out more

i would not bet on helen personal

Daffodil
10-07-2014, 12:29 PM
If she can keep her temper and enhance her mischievous side, I think she will do ok.

sampvt
10-07-2014, 12:39 PM
Hmm I don't think she could win Sam, only being honest but her past is always going to be held against her by a lot of people and then the way she's been in the house nah I just can't see her winning.

In fact she could save one of the hm's from drowning on a live show and someone would probably say it was her fault.

Sorry I meant to be top female. Winston has already won the show. Mark will go into meltdown soon and talk his way out of the final and Chris is just there waiting to be outed.

Vanessa
10-07-2014, 12:39 PM
helen won't win. i think she will go during armageddon week. :sad:

psychtracker
10-07-2014, 05:47 PM
Sorry I meant to be top female.

It's totally possible that Jale, Ashleigh, Danielle & Kim..could all go in the next 4-5 weeks. I think if a couple of those do go (quite likely), they'll be forced to bring in some 'new' female housemates. and who knows from there..still a risky bet, methinks!

Novo
10-07-2014, 05:50 PM
If Ashleigh survives tomorrow I think she will go on and win tbf, this is probably the most important eviction of the entire series really, it changes pretty much everything

MeMyselfAndI
10-07-2014, 05:53 PM
Your wasting your money, Helen has ZERO chance of winning, I will leave this forum & never come back if Helen wins [Not gunna happen]

daniel-lewis-1985
10-07-2014, 06:13 PM
Yeah do it.

Put your life savings on her ;)

psychtracker
10-07-2014, 06:18 PM
If Ashleigh survives tomorrow I think she will go on and win tbf, this is probably the most important eviction of the entire series really, it changes pretty much everything I don't know about that, if she does survive..she certainly cant win hanging around with Danielle for the majority of the time. And then what if Danielle goes? ..i reckon her only shot would be if there were some 'new' housemates, that she actually got along with.

I will add, as well..that if she does scrape through on Fri..she's still likely to be nominated for the foreseeable future.

sampvt
10-07-2014, 06:30 PM
Yeah do it.

Put your life savings on her ;)

Not even Ladbrokes would underwrite that amount. Ive had my £400 at 11/10 on Jale with a £50 saver on Ashleigh at 2/1 so I cant loose, thats gambling my good friend.

If Jale goes I get a profit of £390 with my saver bet loss taken into concideration and if Ashleigh goes I get all my stake money back from both bets but no profit.

I guess you could say i cant loose so dont fret for me, I am well covered.

Novo
10-07-2014, 06:53 PM
Not even Ladbrokes would underwrite that amount. Ive had my £400 at 11/10 on Jale with a £50 saver on Ashleigh at 2/1 so I cant loose, thats gambling my good friend.

If Jale goes I get a profit of £390 with my saver bet loss taken into concideration and if Ashleigh goes I get all my stake money back from both bets but no profit.

I guess you could say i cant loose so dont fret for me, I am well covered.

Was just a about to say If Ashleigh goes then you have lost money, £50 on 2/1 is £150 back in total so you'd be -£250 but your getting your stake money back if Jale doesn't go? how does that work then?

psychtracker
10-07-2014, 06:58 PM
Not even Ladbrokes would underwrite that amount. Ive had my £400 at 11/10 on Jale with a £50 saver on Ashleigh at 2/1 so I cant loose, thats gambling my good friend.

If Jale goes I get a profit of £390 with my saver bet loss taken into concideration and if Ashleigh goes I get all my stake money back from both bets but no profit.

I guess you could say i cant loose so dont fret for me, I am well covered.

I would of thought, if Jale goes..you're up 340, and if Ashleigh goes your -300. am i missing something, how can't you lose?

MeMyselfAndI
10-07-2014, 07:10 PM
Was just a about to say If Ashleigh goes then you have lost money, £50 on 2/1 is £150 back in total so you'd be -£250 but your getting your stake money back if Jale doesn't go? how does that work then?

If Jale goes he loses £10
If Ashleigh goes he loses £250

he loses money either way :umm2: :laugh3:

michael21
10-07-2014, 07:14 PM
If Jale goes he loses £10
If Ashleigh goes he loses £250

he loses money either way :umm2: :laugh3:

it depends if he took the price or not he might lose a lot more than that

Kate!
10-07-2014, 07:18 PM
Stick a few quid on Ash ;)

Novo
10-07-2014, 07:19 PM
If Jale goes he loses £10
If Ashleigh goes he loses £250

he loses money either way :umm2: :laugh3:

If Jale goes he makes a profit, £400 on 11/10 is £840 returns

MeMyselfAndI
10-07-2014, 07:20 PM
oh yeah, I forgot to add the bet of £400 back, so either finish with £790 or -£250

Novo
10-07-2014, 07:23 PM
But he said he is getting his stake back from the Jale's eviction bet so he'd be in profit no matter what... I want to meet this magical generous bookmakers

michael21
10-07-2014, 07:28 PM
Jale 1/2

so £10 win £15

Novo
10-07-2014, 07:31 PM
He said he put it on at 11/10

sampvt
10-07-2014, 07:34 PM
Im sorry, I dont know how it happened but My saver bet is a £250 bet not £50 as I stated. I missed out the 2.

The 2 bets outlay are £400 @ 11/10 on Jale and £250 @ 2/1 on Ashleigh, so I have £650 invested in both bets.....If Jale goes I get £840 back making a £190 profit. If Ashleigh goes I get £750 back making a lesser amount of £100.

Hopefully this clears it up........I wont go into my bet on winston but its similar....if he wins i get loads back, but my saver is for him to reach the final which only cover both my stakes so I am hoping he wins but they are no loose bets as well.

If you look hard, these no loose bets are there every week due to the ever changing odds and betting patterns of irate fans due to edits.

michael21
10-07-2014, 07:36 PM
Im sorry, I dont know how it happened but My saver bet is a £250 bet not £50 as I stated. I missed out the 2.

The 2 bets outlay are £400 @ 11/10 on Jale and £250 @ 2/1 on Ashleigh, so I have £650 invested in both bets.....If Jale goes I get £840 back making a £190 profit. If Ashleigh goes I get £750 back making a lesser amount of £100.

Hopefully this clears it up........I wont go into my bet on winston but its similar....if he wins i get loads back, but my saver is for him to reach the final which only cover both my stakes so I am hoping he wins but they are no loose bets as well.

If you look hard, these no loose bets are there every week due to the ever changing odds and betting patterns of irate fans due to edits.

did you bet in shop or online

sampvt
10-07-2014, 07:41 PM
did you bet in shop or online

I never bet in the shops, I have quite a few on line accounts and with several bookies I can ask for a price. I asked for 2/1 on Ashleigh and got it when they were offering 15/8.

To be honest most of my bets are cover bets on betfair. IE I back a team at say 5/2 and sell it on when their odds drop at 2/1 so I dont care about the result and if it is done in large enough denominations, good money can be made. I am not a mug punter that has £50 on a 50/1 shot etc. I only have 2 rules....1. never bet on an odds on shot and 2 never chase a loss.

michael21
10-07-2014, 07:46 PM
I never bet in the shops, I have quite a few on line accounts and with several bookies I can ask for a price. I asked for 2/1 on Ashleigh and got it when they were offering 15/8.

To be honest most of my bets are cover bets on betfair. IE I back a team at say 5/2 and sell it on when their odds drop at 2/1 so I dont care about the result and if it is done in large enough denominations, good money can be made. I am not a mug punter that has £50 on a 50/1 shot etc. I only have 2 rules....1. never bet on an odds on shot and 2 never chase a loss.

seem like you no what your doing good luck tomorrow

i have a coral online account but mostly do football bets i will keep an eye on these bb bet in the coming week :dance:

psychtracker
10-07-2014, 07:51 PM
The 2 bets outlay are £400 @ 11/10 on Jale and £250 @ 2/1 on Ashleigh, so I have £650 invested in both bets.....If Jale goes I get £840 back making a £190 profit. If Ashleigh goes I get £750 back making a lesser amount of £100.


Thanks for clearing it up..that makes sense now. Not 100% 'can't lose' ..ie. an unlikely meltdown by either Chris, one gets evicted..and you're 650..in the hole. Very improbable, but stranger things have happened!! ;-)

sampvt
11-07-2014, 09:17 PM
Thanks for clearing it up..that makes sense now. Not 100% 'can't lose' ..ie. an unlikely meltdown by either Chris, one gets evicted..and you're 650..in the hole. Very improbable, but stranger things have happened!! ;-)

The oracle wins again. This week was a bit of a no brainer really. Ill post my bets for next week when I see them.