Did steven force the sexual intercourse?

[Jemal]

The way he mounted ontop of her in fast style makes me wonder.
Then also the way he got off her after his 15 secs of fame and she had that look of being frightened.

What do you think?

[Jemal]

Josy can you help me add a poll

[karezza]

Were they really having sex?

[Pete.]

No... it was edited as well so we didn't linger on 2 minutes of sex

[Achilles]

Were they really having sex?

We've no proof. We don't have X-ray vision to see a finger or penis in a hole.

[Pete.]

They have done it before tho

[Gerbil901]

I doubt he did to be honest. I don't believe for one second that Kim is afraid of Steven and wouldn't allow that to happen to her unless it was a life or death situation. It was consensual sex. Now whether or not it was "Good" sex is up for debate.

[billy123]

No dont be so daft.

[Jake.]

Think it was pretty obvious that it was consensual

[Josy]

Do you honestly think it would have been shown on TV had it not been consensual...

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think Kim was asleep and so Steven wanted to get it done quickly before she woke up.

We have all been there

[Jemal]

Yes..

[Pete.]

Do you honestly think it would have been shown on TV had it not been consensual...
BBAUS teas

[Kizzy]

I don't recall them having a discussion about sex, if you're going to have sex with someone there usually a discussion prior to being mounted.
Unless that wasn't shown? It's all a bit ew...

[Josy]

Yes..

Well that's just ridiculous tbh

BBAUS teas

This is BBUK not BBUS thankfully.

[Achilles]

It was very disturbing. I thought I had accidentally switched over and Straw Dogs was on for a moment.

[Jake.]

I don't recall them having a discussion about sex, if you're going to have sex with someone there usually a discussion prior to being mounted.
Unless that wasn't shown? It's all a bit ew...

Discussion? When people are in the heat of the moment, I'm pretty sure one doesn't say 'Hold on dear, I'll stick the kettle on, we really need to talk this through'

[Josy]

I don't recall them having a discussion about sex, if you're going to have sex with someone there usually a discussion prior to being mounted.Unless that wasn't shown? It's all a bit ew...

Umm I really don't think there's many people that would stop kissing/foreplay to take part in a discussion about having intercourse.

[Jemal]

I know its ridiculous but everyone knows deep down that if it wasnt consensuel which i believe it partly wasn't, bb would show it but would edit it up. Simple as.

[Jake.]

They've been close for weeks and she didn't turn down the finger action the other evening, can we stop making her out so be some sort of rape victim.. she looked pretty comfortable before and after

[Josy]

They've been close for weeks and she didn't turn down the finger action the other evening, can we stop making her out so be some sort of rape victim.. she looked pretty comfortable before and after

This :umm2: fgs soon we are going to have #bbuktherape trending.

[Kizzy]

Umm I really don't think there's many people that would stop kissing/foreplay to take part in a discussion about having intercourse.

So there's no discussion about birth control for example? I don't know why people find that detail so easy to overlook.

[billy123]

This thread has got to be treading a bit of a fine line legally when people are suggesting (even jokingly) that one of the housemates is a rapist.
Just because you dont like the housemate its pretty stupid and irresponsible to start suggesting things like that.

[Daffodil]

This thread has got to be treading a bit of a fine line legally when people are suggesting (even jokingly) that one of the housemates is a rapist.
I agree. There is no way it was forced. Steven would have been called to the diary room and the police called if there was any doubt.

[Josy]

So there's no discussion about birth control for example? I don't know why people find that detail so easy to overlook.

Pretty sure if that was being discussed it happened before the other night since that wasn't the first time they had been physical with each other.

And that's not what you said initially said anyway.

[Achilles]

Danielle will say to Steven "I hear your a rapist now, should we all be rapists? What's the official line from Big Brother?"

[Pete.]

This is BBUK not BBUS thankfully.

lol I thought they showed some scenes of sexual indecency on BB Australia

[Tarryn]

He guilt-tripped Kim into it :bawling:................so yes.

[Kizzy]

Pretty sure if that was being discussed it happened before the other night since that wasn't the first time they had been physical with each other.

And that's not what you said initially said anyway.

If you're going to have sex with someone for the first time there is a discussion prior to that, I was of course I meant the use of birth control,... what did you think I meant they should discuss, world hunger?

We haven't been shown so some can be forgiven for thinking it hasn't happened.

[Beastie]

No. Eventhough Steven is a paranoid, controlling mess of a gameplayer and Kimberley will take any cock she can get.

[Achilles]

Not only did he force her, he treats her like a little girl too. He had a Rolf wig on just before don't forget.

[Anothercat]

Do they have condoms I wonder?

[billy123]

Oh pooburgers he didnt get form j8472 signed and countersigned by both parties and register the intent to indulge in a sexual act with the relevant authorities he is a naughty boy.
Jesus christ it was boring as it was without an in depth discussion about whether the relevant imaginary protocol was followed.

[Tarryn]

Do they have condoms I wonder?

Can robots get pregnant ?.

[Locke.]

**** sakes :joker:

Poor Steven being accused of being a rapist just because he wants a few photos of her ex cut up

[Crimson Dynamo]

Can robots get pregnant ?.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4144/5410285248_5ea77ff7a8_m.jpg

[Tarryn]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4144/5410285248_5ea77ff7a8_m.jpg

Maybe a metal Mickey on the way ?.
What proud parents they would be :shocked:

[cheapbbfan]

I cant believe people are trying to say he raped her. ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS

[Northern Monkey]

Umm I really don't think there's many people that would stop kissing/foreplay to take part in a discussion about having intercourse.

Haha!

[Nell_McCoy]

Steven's a moron not a rapist.

[Marsh.]

BBAUS teas

It literally was. They tea bagged someone against their will.

[Lostie!]

I'm not fan of Steven, but this thread is way out of order.

[Marsh.]

This is BBUK not BBUS thankfully.

I thought BBUS was really tame when it came to sex and nudity.

Americans usually seem really surprised by the naughtiness in the European versions.

[smudgie]

The look on her face afterwards was pure disinterest, rather than fear.:laugh:

[Marsh.]

His prick probably didn't touch the sides.

[Josy]

If you're going to have sex with someone for the first time there is a discussion prior to that, I was of course I meant the use of birth control,... what did you think I meant they should discuss, world hunger?

We haven't been shown so some can be forgiven for thinking it hasn't happened.

It wasn't the first time though....

[sassysocks]

**** sakes :joker:

Poor Steven being accused of being a rapist just because he wants a few photos of her ex cut up

The rapist thing is going a bit far, but he has been very controlling in more ways than just pushing her into cutting up the photos. He is way over the top in his behaviour towards her - something most women can see.

Personally I find it concerning when other blokes can't see that. And there is definitely nothing 'poor' about Stephen. He's a creep.

[mizzmee]

umm heelo? no he didn't she is/was a porn star, she knows what she's doing. Google her

[sassysocks]

His prick probably didn't touch the sides.

Oh here we go with the double-standard gibes at the girl. Whatever name you want to apply to her, applies to him - he is dirty little git.

[Marsh.]

Oh here we go with the double-standard gibes at the girl. Whatever name you want to apply to her, applies to him - he is dirty little git.

Hang on, that comment was about his prick being so small so how is it double standards to a woman? Take your sexism somewhere relevant.

[Kizzy]

It wasn't the first time though....

Well whenever it was the first time....

[Mystic Mock]

Steven's a very dirty perv, but no I don't think he raped her.

[Mokka]

oh Please... reaching much???

and no :nono:

[jet]

It is actually believed by some that Steven raped her? Is there one shred of evidence for this? We seen it on camera and I seen nothing of the kind whatsoever, so why this thread?
If that was so, she would hardly have lain there without a sign of protest or carried on as normal with him the next day.
I don't like Steven, but this thread is beyond the pale.

[KADENACY]

Kimberly Kisselovich Steven Goode Sex In The Big Brother House

It is actually believed by some that Steven raped her? Is there one shred of evidence for this? We seen it on camera and I seen nothing of the kind whatsoever, so why this thread?
If that was so, she would hardly have lain there without a sign of protest or carried on as normal with him the next day.
I don't like Steven, but this thread is beyond the pale.

Well said Jet:-From what the Big brother UK 15 video film showed,it is obvious that Kimberly and Steven agreed to have sex with each other,i.e.Kimberly Kisselovich and Steven Goode had sexual intercourse by mutual consent.

Plus the fact that before she entered the Big Brother UK 15 House,Kimberly Kisselovich stated that she was prepared to have sex in
in the Big Brother House!

KADENACY

[MTVN]

She did basically say she hadn't been comfortable with it on last night's show

[Maxy]

I don't think that he forced himself on her but it seems to me that she can't say no to anything he wants.

[Gusto Brunt]

It was very disturbing. I thought I had accidentally switched over and Straw Dogs was on for a moment.

He actually was on his side, looked both ways and decided to go for it. He basically flung himself on her.

[Tarryn]

Even Ash was disgusted.............that takes some doing.
Quote of the series; Steven "I'm the least controlling person ever".
That's like Helen saying "I don't start any arguments".
Or Danielle saying "I'm a lady"...............Oh wait, she does say that.

[Kizzy]

Even Ash was disgusted.............that takes some doing.
Quote of the series; Steven "I'm the least controlling person ever".
That's like Helen saying "I don't start any arguments".
Or Danielle saying "I'm a lady"...............Oh wait, she does say that.

:joker:

[billy123]

This thread is so pathetic it concerns me that people would throw completely baseless suggestions/accusations like this around based pretty much entirely on dislike of a housemate.
I find it all a bit disturbing and im pretty amazed that not only has it been allowed but that some people i thought should know better have joined in.
Pretty shameful behaviour tibb.

[Tarryn]

This thread is so pathetic it concerns me that people would throw completely baseless suggestions/accusations like this around based pretty much entirely on dislike of a housemate.
I find it all a bit disturbing and im pretty amazed that not only has it been allowed but that some people i thought should know better have joined in.
Pretty shameful behaviour tibb.

Steven, is that you ?.

[Jake.]

Steven, is that you ?.

Mature

[Tarryn]

Mature

Thank you.

[billy123]

I know we all like getting over involved and going a bit over the top from time to time anybody that knows me on here knows i terrible for it but **** me backwards when you start throwing rape accusations about thats too much it just doesnt sit right with me.

[Kizzy]

This thread is so pathetic it concerns me that people would throw completely baseless suggestions/accusations like this around based pretty much entirely on dislike of a housemate.
I find it all a bit disturbing and im pretty amazed that not only has it been allowed but that some people i thought should know better have joined in.
Pretty shameful behaviour tibb.

Why say baseless, What have we seen to suggest it's a normal relationship?
Not much I say, I appreciate not everyones idea of what constitutes a healthy relationship is different.

[billy123]

Why say baseless, What have we seen to suggest it's a normal relationship?
Not much I say, I appreciate not everyones idea of what constitutes a healthy relationship is different.What so everyones a rapist until they show that they arent? yeah sensible one kizzy.

[billy123]

Im really not interested in getting bogged down in how much of a creep he is i think we all know that much but grow up for ****s sake.
I have said my piece and i will leave you to it because im not here to argue about it just tell you what i think about it.

[Kizzy]

What so everyones a rapist until they show that they arent? yeah sensible one kizzy.

Don't misinterpret what I say please.

[Tarryn]

I really don't think anyone on here is seriously saying Steven is a rapist, or we all would have picked up our phones & called the police.
This is a very strange relationship though.
Do I believe Kim was raped ?. No, of course not.
I just find some of Steven's behaviour very strange & manipulative.
He guilt-tripped that evening.
He is a liar. He said he never asked her to cut the photos up but he did.
He used fake tears & anger to get his way.
Steven is NOT a rapist but a total twat.

[Jake.]

I really don't think anyone on here is seriously saying Steven is a rapist, or we all would have picked up our phones & called the police.
This is a very strange relationship though.
Do I believe Kim was raped ?. No, of course not.
I just find some of Steven's behaviour very strange & manipulative.
He guilt-tripped that evening.
He is a liar. He said he never asked her to cut the photos up but he did.
He used fake tears & anger to get his way.
Steven is NOT a rapist but a total twat.

He didn't .. He said 'If that was me, I would have cut up the photos and put them in the bin'.. that's not me saying that I don't find his behaviour strange and controlling, but the insinuations of rape are getting OTT

[Tarryn]

I never thought "Rape" when I watched it so yes, it is way OTT to suggest it.
But I think BB called Kim to the Diary room just to check she was okay with everything. They do have a duty of care to every housemate.
Steven questioning her when she came out of the Diary room WAS OTT. Can she not have any privacy ?. What next, holding her hand when she needs to go to the bathroom ?.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No offence but this is a status asking if we think Steven raped Kimberly?

And it was allowed and even edited to add a poll by mods?

Baffled.

[Kizzy]

He didn't .. He said 'If that was me, I would have cut up the photos and put them in the bin'.. that's not me saying that I don't find his behaviour strange and controlling, but the insinuations of rape are getting OTT

there are direct and indirect ways of speaking, sometimes you can pick up on very subtle intonations and the intent is to manipulate a situation with the use of coercion.