When will BB stop protecting Helen?

[jegmeister]

A whole load of outside "secrets" are brought into the house to destroy Danielle but for some peculiar reason there is never anything about Helen.

We know for a fact that there is a lot of info out there that could damage her so when is it going to be broadcast into the house to do so. Or is it only Helen's enemies that suffer this treatment - Helen is untouchable for some reason.

She must have friends in very high places is all I can say.

Already there are some people with goldfish like memories saying they "like her now". Anyone who can behave the way she behaved should not be allowed to get away with it in the way she is. And one more thing BB - when are you going to take away her pass to the final? A disgrace that this was ever awarded, undermining the very principle of the show.

[Buscapé]

What exactly do you want to be said to/about her by the new HMs?

[Lwize]

Maybe Helen isn't a real housemate - she could be an actress in for the full term. Pauline may have been instructed by BB to give the free pass to Helen.

Her nastiness could all be a ruse.

[jegmeister]

[QUOTE=Buscapé;7058349]What exactly do you want to be said to her by the new HMs?[/QUOT

I want to stop her being protected. All the other HMs have had their bitching shown or embarrassing outside facts revealed about them. Why not her? What is so special about her that she gets special treatment?

[Buscapé]

Regarding the outside facts, she hasn't put a front on, so there is nothing really to be revealed. Her prostitution background is history and was already revealed to Steven and Ash. Her bitching isn't really anything anyone would be surprised about, since she always has said pretty much the same to her targets' faces as well.

Btw, it was revealed to Winston and Christmas that Helen was being hypocritical in her argument with Ashleigh.

[jessicadanielle]

To be fair, Helen's situation is quite different to Danielle's. Danielle has rather blatantly lied about who she is, claiming she is a "lingerie" model which isn't quite true, and acting like she's completely averse to anything sexual and does not want to be associated with anything sexual, which again isn't true. Same thing with the whole cig smoking thing, she acted all innocent like "tehe this is my first cig oopsie!" when she'd tweeted months earlier something about smoking.

Helen hasn't lied to anyone about her past (has she?) and isn't intentionally hiding anything, and has admitted her story to Ash and Steven (from what I remember so far).

[jegmeister]

Regarding the outside facts, she hasn't put a front on, so there is nothing really to be revealed. Her prostitution background is history and was already revealed to Steven and Ash. Her bitching isn't really anything anyone would be surprised about, since she always has said pretty much the same to her targets' faces as well.

Btw, it was revealed to Winston and Christmas that Helen was being hypocritical in her argument with Ashleigh.

That was a minor embarrassment, nothing like what others (such as Danielle) have faced.

She has refused to reveal her outside life to Ash and gone on about him not googling her. Why doesn't she tell him if she is so "up front" as her supporters keep saying?

[Josy]

I agree with the poster above about Helens past but then you do make a good point with the bitching and stuff never being shown, I suppose none of the housemates would have stood up to her about it anyway though?

They may still bring something out about her over the next couple of days.

[rionablue]

To be fair, Helen's situation is quite different to Danielle's. Danielle has rather blatantly lied about who she is, claiming she is a "lingerie" model which isn't quite true, and acting like she's completely averse to anything sexual and does not want to be associated with anything sexual, which again isn't true. Same thing with the whole cig smoking thing, she acted all innocent like "tehe this is my first cig oopsie!" when she'd tweeted months earlier something about smoking.

Helen hasn't lied to anyone about her past (has she?) and isn't intentionally hiding anything, and has admitted her story to Ash and Steven (from what I remember so far).

Very good point jessicadanielle:dance::dance:

[Buscapé]

That was a minor embarrassment, nothing like what others (such as Danielle) have faced.

She has refused to reveal her outside life to Ash and gone on about him not googling her. Why doesn't she tell him if she is so "up front" as her supporters keep saying?

She told him though, didn't she?! About selling a story to the press and about having been a prostitute. Only thing she doesn't want him to see is negative articles by the yellow press.

[jessicadanielle]

Very good point jessicadanielle:dance::dance:

Ha thank you! Call me Jess :D

I want to stop her being protected. All the other HMs have had their bitching shown or embarrassing outside facts revealed about them. Why not her? What is so special about her that she gets special treatment?

Yeah I do agree with this. I am sick of her barging around the house on her high horse because it's been revealed that someone has been bitching about her or her friends.

"I've watched two episodes of this show with him and her being slated"... imagine how many episodes include a snippet of her slating someone else!

[erinp5]

When did she find her moral compass, I don't think she should be banging on about the 'truth' when she has secrets she doesn't want out in the house and she bitches about others .She didn't wait long to tell Zoe about Ashleigh.
Maybe BB can play fair and play their toilet convo to the house ,the one that she denied having to Ashleigh on the night she was asked (masquerade Ball).


Oh look
1.33am: Helen is talking about Danielle in not altogether complimentary terms

[MarcusMel]

Quick reminder. There is a court injunction demanding Helen stay quiet about things she has done in the past so BB can't show it.

[Northern Monkey]

They don't want her to walk,They need her in there until the end.

[Vanessa]

They don't want her to walk,They need her in there until the end.

This!

[Nell_McCoy]

That was a minor embarrassment, nothing like what others (such as Danielle) have faced.

She has refused to reveal her outside life to Ash and gone on about him not googling her. Why doesn't she tell him if she is so "up front" as her supporters keep saying?

I can't stand Helen but I heard her clearly say to Ash in her conversation regarding the Rooney incident "It was my JOB" you can't get any clearer than that, she told him that she was a prostitute. I really don't understand how anyone who watches BB could have missed it or why people on this forum act like she is being dishonest about her past.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Oh she told Ash? now we now why he doesn't want to go there with her. He wants a clinic visit before he puts it in.

[KeanO]

She is being protected, anyone who says otherwise is obviously a Helen fan.

She get's to see housemates live from the morgue.

She gets to see all of Ashleigh's bitchy comments but Kim didn't get to see the one where Helen said Steven can do better than Kim, plus Jale didn't get to see Helen calling her 'Slugsworth'.(But I thought they got to see all the people bitching about them??)

BB gave Winston and Christopher some of the weakest tweets ever compared with what they could have done.

BB have targeted Ashleigh last week now it seems there trying to target Danielle.

[chuff me dizzy]

A whole load of outside "secrets" are brought into the house to destroy Danielle but for some peculiar reason there is never anything about Helen.

We know for a fact that there is a lot of info out there that could damage her so when is it going to be broadcast into the house to do so. Or is it only Helen's enemies that suffer this treatment - Helen is untouchable for some reason.

She must have friends in very high places is all I can say.

Already there are some people with goldfish like memories saying they "like her now". Anyone who can behave the way she behaved should not be allowed to get away with it in the way she is. And one more thing BB - when are you going to take away her pass to the final? A disgrace that this was ever awarded, undermining the very principle of the show.
:clap1: True !!

[chuff me dizzy]

When did she find her moral compass, I don't think she should be banging on about the 'truth' when she has secrets she doesn't want out in the house and she bitches about others .She didn't wait long to tell Zoe about Ashleigh.
Maybe BB can play fair and play their toilet convo to the house ,the one that she denied having to Ashleigh on the night she was asked (masquerade Ball).


Oh look
1.33am: Helen is talking about Danielle in not altogether complimentary terms

:clap1: Don't hold your breath waiting for BB to play fair

[Amy Jade]

I don't think they are protecting her at all, if they were we would have no footage because she has been shown being an utter bitch.

The reason they won't go in depth about Helen is because Wayne Rooney would sue BB.

[Achilles]

Don't they already know about Helen? I would say Helen has been the least fake housemate of all of them. Ash and Mark know and I'm sure Kimberly and few others know too

[Creggle]

Helen is a pretty great housemate, why reveal stuff about her in opportunities like the last task when she's honest about her past and hasn't said many things behind peoples backs that she hasn't to their faces.

I don't like her crusade against Ashleigh though, makes her look like a bitter jealous mess, she should just accept when somebody is better than herself.

[Nedusa]

Helen is a pretty great housemate, why reveal stuff about her in opportunities like the last task when she's honest about her past and hasn't said many things behind peoples backs that she hasn't to their faces.

I don't like her crusade against Ashleigh though, makes her look like a bitter jealous mess, she should just accept when somebody is better than herself.

To be honest.......she is not a real HM, any HM who goes through the experience with a golden pass to the final is not really playing the game and as such ALL interactions between her and ALL other HM's are to a degree tempered by this fact.

shame on BB for putting Helen in this position, I don't think she will win and even her getting to the final is fixed from the beginning.

A bittersweet experience at best for Helen IMHO.





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[Creggle]

To be honest.......she is not a real HM, any HM who goes through the experience with a golden pass to the final is not really playing the game and as such ALL interactions between her and ALL other HM's are to a degree tempered by this fact.

shame on BB for putting Helen in this position, I don't think she will win and even her getting to the final is fixed from the beginning.

A bittersweet experience at best for Helen IMHO.





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Yep they went too far by adding that twist, and it's changed the entire house for the worse. I don't think Helen would of acted differently though without the pass, she seems very honest.

[Patricia4]

She should be like them all now its gone on too long I would never change my mind about her she a two faced cow.

[fitz2k2]

they need to stop protecting her cause heen holds the biggest secret out of all of them

[Tarryn]

I've been saying this for ages.
I have watched every BB since it began & can usually find at least one thing to like about every housemate but with Helen there is not one redeeming feature about her.
Nasty on the outside, nasty on the inside. When she is nice to another person she is so fake.
It's time BB showed a video of her "highlights of bitching" to the rest of the house. Others have had to go through that, why not Helen.
No one ever stands up to her. Even Ash is scared to do it.
Yes, she is entertaining but she should be treated like others.
I really wanted Christopher to say to Helen "You have got a pass to the final, so shut up" when she threw a hissy fit about not getting invited to the Christmas party.

[fitz2k2]

I've been saying this for ages.
I have watched every BB since it began & can usually find at least one thing to like about every housemate but with Helen there is not one redeeming feature about her.
Nasty on the outside, nasty on the inside. When she is nice to another person she is so fake.
It's time BB showed a video of her "highlights of bitching" to the rest of the house. Others have had to go through that, why not Helen.
No one ever stands up to her. Even Ash is scared to do it.
Yes, she is entertaining but she should be treated like others.
I really wanted Christopher to say to Helen "You have got a pass to the final, so shut up" when she threw a hissy fit about not getting invited to the Christmas party.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS,but im thinking big brother freeze task is soon and I think it might be revealed then

[Cherie]

Imagine if BB gave the evicted HM on Friday the power to take away Helens pass and Marks 5K and give them to another HM or let them keep them :flutter:

[Ellen]

Helen is not pretending to be something she is not, there are some aspects of her past that she has to be careful talking about because of legal matters. Ash, Steven, Kim & i think Mark know what she did has a job in the past.
Why would BB bring up something that was a long time ago? They bring up things that go on in the house & about the HM's now, not their past. Danielle is very judgemental about people and giving the impression that butter wouldnt melt when this is not the case. That is what Helen's problem is with Danielle, her looking down on people.

[Kazanne]

Regarding the outside facts, she hasn't put a front on, so there is nothing really to be revealed. Her prostitution background is history and was already revealed to Steven and Ash. Her bitching isn't really anything anyone would be surprised about, since she always has said pretty much the same to her targets' faces as well.

Btw, it was revealed to Winston and Christmas that Helen was being hypocritical in her argument with Ashleigh.

:clap1::clap1:

[Marsh.]

The delusion is strong in this thread. :laugh2:

[Miranda123]

[QUOTE=Buscapé;7058349]What exactly do you want to be said to her by the new HMs?[/QUOT

I want to stop her being protected. All the other HMs have had their bitching shown or embarrassing outside facts revealed about them. Why not her? What is so special about her that she gets special treatment?

Because apart from when she is chatting with all her group, she doesnt bitch, she rows with people and tells them exactly what she thinks and sometimes tells them thinks she doesnt think cause she's pissed, when she gets it wrong, she apologises the next day but generally if she dislikes someone, they will know about it, she doesnt need to bitch

The only time Ive seen Helen really bitch, is when she was with Pauline, even her treatment of Jale (which is when I hated Helen) was all said out loud, apart from when she was with Pauline

As soon as Pauline left the house breathed a sigh of relief and starting getting on for the most part! Then thankfully we got rid of the other gob****e and her weave and its been fine since then.........apart from the newbies coming in of course

[Miranda123]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS,but im thinking big brother freeze task is soon and I think it might be revealed then

The reveal will mean nothing, as has been said before....we already know and the people Helen cares about in the house already know, so whats to find out??

Absolutely NOTHING

Keep reaching guys

HELEN TO WIN!

[Miranda123]

they need to stop protecting her cause heen holds the biggest secret out of all of them

Its only a secret to the boring group, the others all know

And Im sure that they are all more surprised about Danielles webcam girls secret than they are about Helen's as Helen hasnt pretended to be something she is not!

[Yaki da]

The moment they do something like that... Helen breaks down, people feel sorry for her and she gains popularity.

If anything they'd be setting this up for her to emerge as a potential winner if they revealed the truth about her. Which most of them probably know anyway.

[jessicadanielle]

Because apart from when she is chatting with all her group, she doesnt bitch, she rows with people and tells them exactly what she thinks and sometimes tells them thinks she doesnt think cause she's pissed, when she gets it wrong, she apologises the next day but generally if she dislikes someone, they will know about it, she doesnt need to bitch

The only time Ive seen Helen really bitch, is when she was with Pauline, even her treatment of Jale (which is when I hated Helen) was all said out loud, apart from when she was with Pauline

The other day she was comforting Marlon about feeling alone and then went outside and told Ash and someone else not to trust him.

Recent clips have showed her and Biannca talking about Danielle being a liar - she has never said that to her face.

And if I remember correctly, she used to call Kimberly boring and said "if she didn't look like she does nobody would bother with her", and never said that to her face.

These are just a few examples off the top of my head!

[Miranda123]

She should be like them all now its gone on too long I would never change my mind about her she a two faced cow.

I dont think you can accuse her of being two faced, the only two faced people in there are Danielle & Ashleigh & chris.....these are the three talking about people behind their backs all the time..not that I wouldnt, but its the truth!

[Miranda123]

The other day she was comforting Marlon about feeling alone and then went outside and told Ash and someone else not to trust him.

Recent clips have showed her and Biannca talking about Danielle being a liar - she has never said that to her face.

And if I remember correctly, she used to call Kimberly boring and said "if she didn't look like she does nobody would bother with her", and never said that to her face.

These are just a few examples off the top of my head!

Just a few, off the top of your head................I dont have enough time in the day to list the two facedness of the boring group.........lol

[jessicadanielle]

Just a few, off the top of your head................I dont have enough time in the day to list the two facedness of the boring group.........lol

I don't think you can say Helen is not two-faced just because she is in your opinion less two-faced than other people. It's not a competition with one winner! They're as bad as each other.

I don't think the "boring group" (I presume Danielle, Ashleigh, Chris, maybe Christopher?) are that two-faced. Ashleigh doesn't pretend to like Helen, Ash or Kim, they're very aware that she doesn't like them. Chris made a teeny comment about Jale, it wasn't like he said he hated her then was nice to her face. Christopher often tells people if they upset him etc.

Danielle, however, is insaaaanely two-faced, particularly with Kim, so I'll agree with you there!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

BB cannot tell the housemates she was a prostitute and probably are legally not allowed to talk about the Wayne Rooney incident.

Helen is an open book and has pretty much told everyone everything even Ash knows she was a prostitute.

Theres not really anything they could say about her.

I didn't agree with them telling the house about Danielle though plus Bianca being allowed to discuss her being fake, telling Helen she will be shocked when she sees what Danielles really like and defo not a virgin. She should be reprimanded for bringing in outside information.

[Patricia4]

She is two faced she's said lots of things behind people's backs.
BB favourite bitch.

[sampvt]

Its a game and the rules have handed her a ticket to the final. Also this ticket has in a short way added to the programs spicy angle so without it, she might clam up and go to sleep.

[Jamesy]

To be fair the only way she has been 'protected' is if we're to believe she has had 100s of warnings and is still in there... other than that she isn't being protected.

If a favourite had the pass no one would say anything, or want them to have their pass taken off them.

[Gusto Brunt]

I firmly believe that Pauline 'picking' Helen for the pass to the final was a total fix.

Pauline has probably been paid some hush money to keep her trap shut and not spill the beans. I reckon about £5,000.

It was the only way Helen could be guaranteed to stay in and cause mayhem and headlines.

[Achilles]

I firmly believe that Pauline 'picking' Helen for the pass to the final was a total fix.

Pauline has probably been paid some hush money to keep her trap shut and not spill the beans. I reckon about £5,000.

It was the only way Helen could be guaranteed to stay in and cause mayhem and headlines.

Don't need to pay her money, she just signs a contract like all the rest of them.

[Gusto Brunt]

Don't need to pay her money, she just signs a contract like all the rest of them.

She didn't sign the contract to fix who was going into the final, though.

It was supposed to be Pauline's free choice.

Yeah pull the other one. :rolleyes:

[Josy]

I firmly believe that Pauline 'picking' Helen for the pass to the final was a total fix.

Pauline has probably been paid some hush money to keep her trap shut and not spill the beans. I reckon about £5,000.

It was the only way Helen could be guaranteed to stay in and cause mayhem and headlines.

Why on earth would Pauline agree to a fix like that then she herself gets evicted very early on. DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

[jessicadanielle]

I firmly believe that Pauline 'picking' Helen for the pass to the final was a total fix.

Pauline has probably been paid some hush money to keep her trap shut and not spill the beans. I reckon about £5,000.

It was the only way Helen could be guaranteed to stay in and cause mayhem and headlines.

Pauline and Helen got on really well, it's also very plausible that she just picked her!

[Womaaaan]

Regarding the outside facts, she hasn't put a front on, so there is nothing really to be revealed. Her prostitution background is history and was already revealed to Steven and Ash. Her bitching isn't really anything anyone would be surprised about, since she always has said pretty much the same to her targets' faces as well.

Btw, it was revealed to Winston and Christmas that Helen was being hypocritical in her argument with Ashleigh.


Totally agree.. I don't particularly like her and her behaviour in the first couple of weeks was bad.. But she has been open and honest she didn't backstab and has been upfront.. She spoke with ash about her outside situation with her job many years ago and isn't pretending to be something she is not.. Unlike Danielle..

[Achilles]

Why on earth would Pauline agree to a fix like that then she herself gets evicted very early on. DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

It's all part of the plan. They're schemers. Emma's got plan. Rylan's got plans. The producers have plans. If they give Helen a free pass to the final or Mark gets £5k, nobody cares. Because it's all part of the plan. But if one little Marlon gets evicted without a public vote, then everyone loses their minds. I prefer chaos. You know why? It's fair :hehe:

[Northern Monkey]

Helen's bitched more than many in there,She's just argued alot too so people think she 'tells it like it is'.

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