The Warning Signs

[Kate!]

Steven is a ticking time bomb. His eyes are cold as ice and he's borderline disturbed. It's quite uncomfortable for me to watch.

BB need to monitor him, Kimberley is very vulnerable in there.

[abhorson]

Insecure is about it. Don't go OTT.

[Chuckyegg]

I'm appalled that a team of psychologists have not been parachuted in to counsel him

[CaudleHalbard]

He's just a twat. That's all! ;)

[fitz2k2]

Steven is a ticking time bomb. His eyes are cold as ice and he's borderline disturbed. It's quite uncomfortable for me to watch.

BB need to monitor him, Kimberley is very vulnerable in there.

warning for what?hes not gonna hit someone hahahaha hes to busy checking himself out in the mirror

[Jamie585]

I'm scared for Kim... Expecting another Daley moment tbh

[ruiphillips]

Kim is the controlling one, Steven is just a twat she easily manipulates.

[Creggle]

I am quite concerned for Kim tbh, wasn't nice seeing her cry, especially as she did not look at a single mirror in there, that's usually a sign that it isn't just for the cameras.

Poor mare.

[fitz2k2]

peopleeeeeeeeee listen steven wont do jack

[lily.]

Steven is a ticking time bomb. His eyes are cold as ice and he's borderline disturbed. It's quite uncomfortable for me to watch.

BB need to monitor him, Kimberley is very vulnerable in there.

I fear for how it will turn out when they both leave tbh.

[abhorson]

Kim is the controlling one, Steven is just a twat she easily manipulates.

This i agree with.

Look at how she is reacting now with new info.

Not hard to suss.

[Jamie585]

Kim is the controlling one, Steven is just a twat she easily manipulates.

No, Kim needs to run a mile

[abhorson]

I am quite concerned for Kim tbh, wasn't nice seeing her cry, especially as she did not look at a single mirror in there, that's usually a sign that it isn't just for the cameras.

Poor mare.


Honestly, Kim is the player here.

[Jamie585]

Honestly, Kim is the player here.

Did you just watch a different show?

[abhorson]

If some people can't see that Kim has played him all along. Don't attempt to go for a psych degree.

[Creggle]

Honestly, Kim is the player here.

How so? Both edits tonight on the bed and in the bathroom he treated her like complete ****, she needs to **** away from him, I hope they have another barmy like that but infront of the group so that Mark & Winston jump on Steven and send him in another room.

When she went to walk out of the toilet I was like FINALLY, but she went back in. :shrug:

[abhorson]

Did you just watch a different show?

Have you.

A playboy that had sex on TV and screwed her outside BF.

Wake up.

[Sophiee]

I can see where you're coming from with this, but I don't think he'd ever be violent towards her. his emotions just appear to get the better of him sometimes.

[jackc1806]

Pav will be a hero if he evicts Steven. He's vile. Kimberly should get the first plane back to America when she leaves.

[Jamie585]

Have you.

A playboy that had sex on TV and screwed her outside BF.

Wake up.

Steven is playing the game, when they were speaking by the mirror all he cared about was what the public thinks of him and how Kim is making him look bad! He is playing her! I'm very awake thank you.

[Jords]

Even if Kimberly is 'playing' Steven (i.e. isnt romantically interested) he is still presenting himself in a very bad light by (trying to) emotionally manipulate Kimberly into feeling sorry for him as a 'victim' and view herself as inferior and 'to blame'. It has a horrible 'Patrick and Maxine' vibe to it whom are characters on Hollyoaks.

[Creggle]

'Your making me look bad. AGAIN' when she began to cry, after he purposefully bought up and upset her with Sasha talk...

The guy is a complete C U Next Tuesday.

[abhorson]

How so? Both edits tonight on the bed and in the bathroom he treated her like complete ****, she needs to **** away from him, I hope they have another barmy like that but infront of the group so that Mark & Winston jump on Steven and send him in another room.

When she went to walk out of the toilet I was like FINALLY, but she went back in. :shrug:

Because the dimwit has finally realised that the player has been played.

And from Pav's input she now realises that she has not gone down well. Literally:laugh:

[sampvt]

Kim is the controlling one, Steven is just a twat she easily manipulates.

:clap1::clap1::clap1::worship::worship::worship: At last, someone seen the light. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[CaudleHalbard]

Kimberly should get the first plane back to America when she leaves.

I'm sure her ticket has been bought! ;)

[abhorson]

Even if Kimberly is 'playing' Steven (i.e. isnt romantically interested) he is still presenting himself in a very bad light by (trying to) emotionally manipulate Kimberly into feeling sorry for him as a 'victim' and view herself as inferior and 'to blame'. It has a horrible 'Patrick and Maxine' vibe to it whom are characters on Hollyoaks.


I agree, but both as bad as each other.

Either to go for me.

[kistar]

'Your making me look bad. AGAIN' when she began to cry, after he purposefully bought up and upset her with Sasha talk...

The guy is a complete C U Next Tuesday.

Yep totally.

[Jarrod]

How on earth is Kimberly controlling Steven? I know exactly what to look for, when it comes to concerning relationships and Steven has ticked the first sign boxes so far.

The other day with his constant "I love you" and possessiveness was very uncomfortable to watch. Steven is very paranoid and earlier in the highlights show his whole outburst made Kimberly upset. I'm thinking he's holding back a lot of Kimberly, and if he leaves on Friday we'll see a change.

Steven is emotionally manipulating Kimberly in situations, and making her feel she has to act on certain things to make him feel better, the picture incident being one of the moments. Why on earth should she have to cut her pictures up just because he doesn't like it? She got scared he'd kick off and nobody should have to feel that way.

[abhorson]

How on earth is Kimberly controlling Steven? I know exactly what to look for, when it comes to concerning relationships and Steven has ticked the first sign boxes so far.

The other day with his constant "I love you" and possessiveness was very uncomfortable to watch. Steven is very paranoid and earlier in the highlights show his whole outburst made Kimberly upset. I'm thinking he's holding back a lot of Kimberly, and if he leaves on Friday we'll see a change.

Steven is emotionally manipulating Kimberly in situations, and making her feel she has to act on certain things to make him feel better, the picture incident being one of the moments. Why on earth should she have to cut her pictures up just because he doesn't like it? She got scared he'd kick off and nobody should have to feel that way.

If you think a hard nosed playboy/ woman of the world could be so easily controlled, especially after her VT/early days and comments. Saying nothing.

[joeysteele]

Steven is a ticking time bomb. His eyes are cold as ice and he's borderline disturbed. It's quite uncomfortable for me to watch.

BB need to monitor him, Kimberley is very vulnerable in there.

He does come across as very cold despite being full on too. He is one real odd cookie.
I agree he is uncomfortable, very uncomfortable in fact, to watch now.

[Kate!]

If some people can't see that Kim has played him all along. Don't attempt to go for a psych degree.

I don't need to go for a psych degree. I've been in a long drawn out highly abusive relationship and everything about Steven screams watch out!

[Jarrod]

I don't need to go for a psych degree. I've been in a long drawn out highly abusive relationship and everything about Steven screams watch out!

I completely agree.

[Kate!]

How on earth is Kimberly controlling Steven? I know exactly what to look for, when it comes to concerning relationships and Steven has ticked the first sign boxes so far.

The other day with his constant "I love you" and possessiveness was very uncomfortable to watch. Steven is very paranoid and earlier in the highlights show his whole outburst made Kimberly upset. I'm thinking he's holding back a lot of Kimberly, and if he leaves on Friday we'll see a change.

Steven is emotionally manipulating Kimberly in situations, and making her feel she has to act on certain things to make him feel better, the picture incident being one of the moments. Why on earth should she have to cut her pictures up just because he doesn't like it? She got scared he'd kick off and nobody should have to feel that way.

What an amazing post Jarrod. You're very wise :love:

[abhorson]

I don't need to go for a psych degree. I've been in a long drawn out highly abusive relationship and everything about Steven screams watch out!

Of which i totally agree, but Kim has played her part too, but now he regrets it and is being a dick.

[Jarrod]

What an amazing post Jarrod. You're very wise :love:

Thank you, Kate :hug:

[abhorson]

Either way, no mag deals for a couple.

[Miranda123]

No, Kim needs to run a mile

Couldnt agree more

Steven comes across as the kind of guy who loves the idea of the beautiful house, model wife and 3 amazing kids...................

and then one night, he comes home from work, gets his shotgun from the garage and kills them all

his neediness scares the bejeezez out of me!

[Amy Jade]

I feel so sorry for Kim now, he's one of those guys who smashes his dinner up the wall because he wanted peas instead of sweetcorn and then says 'look what you did' to his poor partner :(

[Jamie585]

I don't need to go for a psych degree. I've been in a long drawn out highly abusive relationship and everything about Steven screams watch out!

I agree.. I have seen many worrying signs from Steven whose obsessive controlling nature could turn very dark and violent.. Which could be totally wrong but the signs lead me to believe that Kim needs to watch out and be careful!

[abhorson]

Couldnt agree more

Steven comes across as the kind of guy who loves the idea of the beautiful house, model wife and 3 amazing kids...................

and then one night, he comes home from work, gets his shotgun from the garage and kills them all

his neediness scares the bejeezez out of me!


That is a stupid comment.

[Miranda123]

I feel so sorry for Kim now, he's one of those guys who smashes his dinner up the wall because he wanted peas instead of sweetcorn and then says 'look what you did' to his poor partner :(

or like whathisface from Eastenders, Trevor, when he shoves little Mo's face in the gravy and says "eat your dinner mo" lol

[smudgie]

Pair of players.

Pair of cold, calculating self absorbed twits.
Best thing about them is they will be each other's downfall.

[Miranda123]

That is a stupid comment.

Sense of humour bypass alert!!

[Kate!]

It isn't a stupid comment. I've had my food taken away from me and thrown at the wall and made to clean it up. The emotional scars take a very long time to heal.

[abhorson]

Pair of players.

Pair of cold, calculating self absorbed twits.
Best thing about them is they will be each other's downfall.

That is more like it:clap1::clap1:

[Cherie]

Pair of players.

Pair of cold, calculating self absorbed twits.
Best thing about them is they will be each other's downfall.

...

[Miranda123]

It isn't a stupid comment. I've had my food taken away from me and thrown at the wall and made to clean it up. The emotional scars take a very long time to heal.

and never mind what it does to the wallpaper............

[abhorson]

It isn't a stupid comment. I've had my food taken away from me and thrown at the wall and made to clean it up. The emotional scars take a very long time to heal.

Yes, that is you. My wife has hit me.

You can not accuse others with no evidence just because you see the signs.

[Cherie]

It isn't a stupid comment. I've had my food taken away from me and thrown at the wall and made to clean it up. The emotional scars take a very long time to heal.

I doubt Kim will cook any dinners for Steven to throw at the wall :laugh:

[Cherie]

Yes, that is you. My wife has hit me.

You can not accuse others with no evidence just because you see the signs.

I can see Kim hitting Steven though :joker:

[abhorson]

I can see Kim hitting Steven though :joker:

Or bore him to death.

[Miranda123]

Yes, that is you. My wife has hit me.

You can not accuse others with no evidence just because you see the signs.

Chill pills available at www.imonlyfu.kingjoking.com

[Jarrod]

Yes, that is you. My wife has hit me.

You can not accuse others with no evidence just because you see the signs.

You're being extremely ignorant to the clear early signs, I'm afraid.

[Kate!]

And while I'm in mid rant I've also had a knife pointed at me and told that's for when you get on my nerves. Not arsed if not believed. I know it's true n Steven has it written all over him.

After my relationship ended he went on to stab his next partner to death.

Don't judge a man/woman till you've been standing in their shoes and fortunately for the vast majority of the population they'll never know the horrors.

[Amy Jade]

Yes, that is you. My wife has hit me.

You can not accuse others with no evidence just because you see the signs.

Kate has not accused Steven she has just posted warning signs from her personal opinion and experiences.

[abhorson]

You're being extremely ignorant to the clear early signs, I'm afraid.


And you are being ridiculously OTT. If he has been dating for years, do you not think this would have come out?

[abhorson]

Chill pills available at www.imonlyfu.kingjoking.com

Yes sorry Miranda, just hate the OTT rubbish.

[Miranda123]

And you are being ridiculously OTT. If he has been dating for years, do you not think this would have come out?

Be hard to sell a story about him if youre buried under his patio.............just saying lol

[Miranda123]

Yes sorry Miranda, just hate the OTT rubbish.

its ok, me too, just in a very jokey mood tonight

and it is quite funny watching both of them, neither of them are showing their true feelings, its all about the camera

i still think Steven has psycho qualities though

[Miranda123]

You're being extremely ignorant to the clear early signs, I'm afraid.

Note also how he is getting in his excuses for Friday night already

"its your fault Kim, youre making me look bad"

Someone should tell him he requires no help at all in that department

[abhorson]

Be hard to sell a story about him if youre buried under his patio.............just saying lol

:joker::joker:

[Miranda123]

:joker::joker:

look at me, I didnt even watch Brookside!

[Jarrod]

And you are being ridiculously OTT. If he has been dating for years, do you not think this would have come out?

No, because in the House you're in a completely different environment to usual dating. Steven and Kimberly are together 24 hours a day, seven days a week in that House - apart from the odd minutes they have separate Diary Room chats.

There are concerning signs and people are becoming aware of them. She needs to be careful. I'm not being ridiculously OTT, I'm talking from witnessing things in my own life.

[Northern Monkey]

His eye were like that because he was pissed.lol.He's just young and insecure,He'll grow up eventually.

[abhorson]

His eye were like that because he was pissed.lol.He's just young and insecure,He'll grow up eventually.

:clap1:

[hijaxers]

I don't need to go for a psych degree. I've been in a long drawn out highly abusive relationship and everything about Steven screams watch out!

Ditto

[abhorson]

No, because in the House you're in a completely different environment to usual dating. Steven and Kimberly are together 24 hours a day, seven days a week in that House - apart from the odd minutes they have separate Diary Room chats.

There are concerning signs and people are becoming aware of them. She needs to be careful. I'm not being ridiculously OTT, I'm talking from witnessing things in my own life.

So in other words, you don't know?

[Jarrod]

So in other words, you don't know?

Yes I do bloody know.

[abhorson]

Yes I do bloody know.


That is where you fall down. Because you do not.

[Northern Monkey]

Calm down people,I'm sure he's not gonna throw his peas at the wall:joker:
He's still young and does'nt know how to deal with his emotions yet,Or women.We were all like that once to a degree.Yes he is a cringey bastard and his relationship with his mother at 23 yrs old seems a bit weird but i don't think he's gonna turn into Fred West.She knows what she's doing with this showmance,She'll be on her back soon enough taking Heffs wrinkley old corn dog up her and laughing about that gullable English twat she met on Big Brother.

[Jordan.]

It isn't a stupid comment. I've had my food taken away from me and thrown at the wall and made to clean it up. The emotional scars take a very long time to heal.

:(

[Vicky.]

He is an extremely controlling individual, that much is clear.

I don't think she is totally innocent in this all mind, she has lead him up the garden path and made him look a tit (even more of a tit than he made himself look) but tonight I did feel sorry for her.

[armand.kay]

It isn't a stupid comment. I've had my food taken away from me and thrown at the wall and made to clean it up. The emotional scars take a very long time to heal.

Omg

[Me. I Am Salman]

Will be pissed if RapeySteve doesn't get an intense grilling once he's evicted.

[user104658]

Honestly, Kim is the player here.

I think you're right in that she's the one who is (or initially was) gameplaying with the whole thing more than him, but that makes it worse really. I think she's gotten in over her head with Steven. Not that I think she's in physical danger, he's not got the testosterone to react violently, but he quite clearly is an emotional and psychological nightmare...

Someone doesn't need to use their fists to be tormenting someone. I think she quite clearly wants out of the situation but feels like it's too late.

[JayBlaze]

Kim is just a slag

[armand.kay]

Lmao at how people are blaming Kim. This is like the whole Hazel and Daley situation all over again :bored:

[Kizzy]

Lmao at how people are blaming Kim. This is like the whole Hazel and Daley situation all over again :bored:

Yep... she only says about 3 sentences a day and the rest is him constantly droning on in her ear how she's bad, and made him look bad, and feel bad, and how he is getting all the flack but it's ok because he loves her....HE REALLY REALLY LOVES HER!!

[Samm]

Steven is the bad one in this even tbh I don't like Kim she isn't the one to blame

[jet]

Steven has been creepy with Kim from the start of their 'romance', and she didn't have to go along with him and could have gotten herself out of it earlier on, but she didn't. He implies he wants her to cut up pics of her BF, and she does it - then has sex with him afterwards that very night. Yep, way to show him his controlling behaviour pays dividends!
What is he playing at, and what is she playing at. They are both as bad as each other!

[KeanO]

Steven is a laughing stock, whenever he's on the TV I always end up laughing.

It would be much better if Kim was evicted tommorow.. just to see how he acts.. he will be so paranoid it will be hilarious.

[Videostar]

He's just a twat. That's all! ;)

That just about covers him perfectly. :thumbs:

[wormsinfested]

Steven is a total creepshow...

[wee-Indie]

I fear for how it will turn out when they both leave tbh.

Why? they both know the score in fact they all do otherwise why enter BB

[wee-Indie]

Steven has been creepy with Kim from the start of their 'romance', and she didn't have to go along with him and could have gotten herself out of it earlier on, but she didn't. He implies he wants her to cut up pics of her BF, and she does it - then has sex with him afterwards that very night. Yep, way to show him his controlling behaviour pays dividends!
What is he playing at, and what is she playing at. They are both as bad as each other!

:clap1: here here

[delta]

Made for each other, she's been seduced by the thought of life on 'Easy street' with her new multi millionaire beau and the promise of being wed at St Paul's or Westminster ( I pity the poor girl 'cos if the other thread is accurate about his true worth then she's in for a hard landing)

He's the Walter Mitty type, all wrapped up in his own self image, self worth. He's never really stopped to ask how she is feeling. It must be difficult and a pressure boiler situation where you are cocooned with that person each day 24/7 and she probably has lost perspective. But at the the end of the day she's consented willingly to having sex with him and she will probably get out of the BB house and realise she's been a bit of a fool. She also stated that the gets uses a lot, which suggests a certain type of personality.

She does come across as scheming and there is definitely an intelligent woman in there, but probably very poor at making choices when it comes to men. Maybe, the look of consternation and the perceived 'schemer' look is the fact that she is carrying so much baggage or was she prepared to further their BB stay by having a showmance and if they were then they both deserve each other and the ensuing fall out.

[Ammi]

Steven has been creepy with Kim from the start of their 'romance', and she didn't have to go along with him and could have gotten herself out of it earlier on, but she didn't. He implies he wants her to cut up pics of her BF, and she does it - then has sex with him afterwards that very night. Yep, way to show him his controlling behaviour pays dividends!
What is he playing at, and what is she playing at. They are both as bad as each other!

...in all seriousness I'm not sure that he is creepy as such but I think has just played a stupid game where he's felt that the public would cry 'SHOWMANCE' so he's tried to appear sincere and 'in love' and has completely over-played it and got it wrong and come across as obsessive instead...he just seems 'too aware' for me of his public perceptions and makes me feel that it has all been a gameplan gone wrong for him because his priority concern is always how he's perceived in every situation and of course the showmance being his main storyline, he's seeing it all go wrong badly now....yeah, I agree with you, that I think Kim may be playing a game as well but haven't really fathomed out the purpose of her robot gameplan yet....anyway, that's just my thought of the morning, I'm sure when I see him on my TV screen again, I'll go back to thinking he's a disturbing creep..:laugh:..

[delta]

He does know a lot about the show and stated earlier on in the show what the public liked to see, very much like the to55 pot from last year- Dexter. Both knew that the public wanted to see someone go on a journey of discovery.

Both tried desperately to cultivate an on screen romance, both are very needy individuals they both are very much into themselves and had this over inflated self worth, without a care in the world for anyone else. It's 'ME' and that's it- end of. Incidentally, both are 'Mummies' boys' .

Both are/were annoyingly creepy in their approach to women and very, very manipulative. If they are like this on camera times it by a factor of ten out there in the big , bad, world where no one is to witness their over bearing, scheming, obsessive behavior.

Anyone that pretends he's a multi millionaire has delusions of grandeur ( once again, very similar to Dexter) He's creepy in every sense of the word 24 years old and he still goes crying to his mother for advice, come on, this guy needs putting through the ringer, he's the biggest game player in there along with ' I am friends with everyone in there' Mark.

[Metalface Mark]

He does know a lot about the show and stated earlier on in the show what the public liked to see, very much like the to55 pot from last year- Dexter. Both knew that the public wanted to see someone go on a journey of discovery.

Both tried desperately to cultivate an on screen romance, both are very needy individuals they both are very much into themselves and had this over inflated self worth, without a care in the world for anyone else. It's 'ME' and that's it- end of. Incidentally, both are 'Mummies' boys' .

Both are/were annoyingly creepy in their approach to women and very, very manipulative. If they are like this on camera times it by a factor of ten out there in the big , bad, world where no one is to witness their over bearing, scheming, obsessive behavior.

Anyone that pretends he's a multi millionaire has delusions of grandeur ( once again, very similar to Dexter) He's creepy in every sense of the word 24 years old and he still goes crying to his mother for advice, come on, this guy needs putting through the ringer, he's the biggest game player in there along with ' I am friends with everyone in there' Mark.

We now know that he obviously went big brother mad after meeting Dexter and Charlie on that show i posted, he obviously knew what he had to say to get into the house and bypassed the usual checks.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I don't get how people are shrugging it off at Steven just being a little ridiculous. Like... he's insanely manipulative and uses emotional blackmail all the time, it was clear as day with his whole "HEY JUST SO YOU KNOW I'LL BE SO UPSET IF I'M NOT SAVED THIS WEEK. NOT AT YOU BUT I'LL BE REALLY UPSET" to Kimberly when it was #GirlPower. And then after that he's...

1) demanded that Kimberly move in with him so his family can take care of him
2) demanded that she never speak to Sasha again
3) demanded that she never SEE Sasha again and when she retrieves her things she either gets someone else to do it or HE goes with her
4) pretty much demanded that she destroy her pics of Sasha

among plenty of other things. I'm still a few eps behind but I'm hoping to god the intruders boot his ass tomorrow. He's really entering Aaron/John James/Ziggy/Siavash/Gerry territory as one of the worst ever for me with his bull****.

Literally EVERYTHING about Steven is about himself. When Marlon pressed the button, it was about how he thought that HE was a good judge of character so he's disappointed that Marlon proved him wrong. Everything is about how bad it makes HIM look, how HE'S been made to look like a twat, how HE'S constantly being **** on for things HE didn't do. All of his grievances are for things HE did because he's just that ****ing self-interested.

So yeah, I hope HE gets evicted in approximately 13 or 14 hours.