Still trying to work out why fraudulent Danielle is being defended

[Yaki da]

She lied to her closest people in the house. She tried to portray herself as an innocent person to boost sales of her webcam services where she creates a fantasy world for sleazy men to think they're corrupting a Good Catholic girl. She was an appalling creature and people actually want this charlatan back in the house?

[Jake.]

That's because people carry different opinions to yourself, shocking, I know. Fact is, she was robbed last night, no other way to put it.. I think it'd be pretty clear to producers that if Kim was too ill to be there for an eviction night then she wouldn't be going back in anytime soon. Farce.

[Kizzy]

It's a game and she was playing it..very well I may add, she was doing great too!

[LukeB]

everyone lies to protect themselfs

[Daffodil]

But ALL the housemates put on acts!

[rubymoo]

I thought she was a great housemate, i loved the fact that she put on this persona but we all sort of knew the truth.

She was playing a game and i will miss her:(

[Pete.]

That's because people carry different opinions to yourself, shocking, I know. Fact is, she was robbed last night, no other way to put it.. I think it'd be pretty clear to producers that if Kim was too ill to be there for an eviction night then she wouldn't be going back in anytime soon. Farce.
this

[CaudleHalbard]

She lied to her closest people in the house. She tried to portray herself as an innocent person to boost sales of her webcam services where she creates a fantasy world for sleazy men to think they're corrupting a Good Catholic girl. She was an appalling creature and people actually want this charlatan back in the house?
In some ways she's worse than Helen!

[Jake.]

In some ways she's worse than Helen!

In zero ways is she worse then Helen

[Yaki da]

That's because people carry different opinions to yourself, shocking, I know.

No it is not shocking... But why can no one actually explain these opinions? What is it people find at all likable about her?


Fact is, she was robbed last night, no other way to put it.. I think it'd be pretty clear to producers that if Kim was too ill to be there for an eviction night then she wouldn't be going back in anytime soon. Farce.

I agree that the whole week from Marlon's eviction to Danielle's was farcical. But I'm wondering why this woman, who is so utterly fraudulent, nevertheless maintains some sort of popularity.

[Kizzy]

Because of her impact in the house and her gameplay which has been very watchable, she was really let down by BB.

[CaudleHalbard]

I found her rather unwatchable - constant moaning and bitching. Good riddance.

[kistar]

I found her rather unwatchable - constant moaning and bitching. Good riddance.

Ditto

[Tarryn]

Why do people think they have a right to know if Danielle was a virgin or not ?
I just don't get why it was so important.
Everybody lies. She tried to portray a classy lady persona but failed. That's all.
She just became such an easy target for the likes of Biannca & Helen.
Biannca could see how upset Danielle was last night yet kept trying to "out" her to the housemates. I thought it was quite cruel to do that.
I'm no Danielle fan but give the girl a break. She did nothing really bad in there.

[kistar]

Because of her impact in the house and her gameplay which has been very watchable, she was really let down by BB.

Her impact on the house? :sleep:

[Yaki da]

everyone lies to protect themselfs

She wasn't protecting herself. She was boosting sales of her business.

[Jake.]

Her impact on the house? :sleep:

Of course, the fact that so many people have an opinion of her speaks for itself.. Whilst the same can't be said for people like Kim.

[rubymoo]

Why do people think they have a right to know if Danielle was a virgin or not ?
I just don't get why it was so important.
Everybody lies. She tried to portray a classy lady persona but failed. That's all.
She just became such an easy target for the likes of Biannca & Helen.
Biannca could see how upset Danielle was last night yet kept trying to "out" her to the housemates. I thought it was quite cruel to do that.
I'm no Danielle fan but give the girl a break. She did nothing really bad in there.

:clap1: Well said!

[Jake.]

Why do people think they have a right to know if Danielle was a virgin or not ?
I just don't get why it was so important.
Everybody lies. She tried to portray a classy lady persona but failed. That's all.
She just became such an easy target for the likes of Biannca & Helen.
Biannca could see how upset Danielle was last night yet kept trying to "out" her to the housemates. I thought it was quite cruel to do that.
I'm no Danielle fan but give the girl a break. She did nothing really bad in there.

No lies told :clap1:

[kistar]

Because of her impact in the house and her gameplay which has been very watchable, she was really let down by BB.

Yes because more airtime would have meant more money for her and Dexter ( he will no doubt be her manager) to make from her new soft porn career and that's so unfair of BB .

[Yaki da]

Why do people think they have a right to know if Danielle was a virgin or not ?

I don't care if she is or not. But I'm being invited to make judgements on her and she is clearly a liar.


Everybody lies. She tried to portray a classy lady persona but failed. That's all.

She tried to portray herself as the exact opposite of what she is, so she can sell the illusion of turning a good girl bad to people who pay for her services on her webcam.

She just became such an easy target for the likes of Biannca & Helen.
Biannca could see how upset Danielle was last night yet kept trying to "out" her to the housemates. I thought it was quite cruel to do that.
I'm no Danielle fan but give the girl a break. She did nothing really bad in there.

Except use, manipulate and lie to all of those around her, including her friends.

[Yaki da]

No lies told :clap1:

She said she doesn't take her top off on her web cam service. A total lie.

[Speedster]

She lied to her closest people in the house. She tried to portray herself as an innocent person to boost sales of her webcam services where she creates a fantasy world for sleazy men to think they're corrupting a Good Catholic girl. She was an appalling creature and people actually want this charlatan back in the house?


You're exaggerating and you know it. I suggest you spend time away from the internet and BB.

[Jake.]

She said she doesn't take her top off on her web cam service. A total lie.

Have you got evidence?

[Tarryn]

I don't care if she is or not. But I'm being invited to make judgements on her and she is clearly a liar.




She tried to portray herself as the exact opposite of what she is, so she can sell the illusion of turning a good girl bad to people who pay for her services on her webcam.



Except use, manipulate and lie to all of those around her, including her friends.

You don't like her, I get it.
She does not owe you or me or anyone an explanation. I don't really have any sympathy for her webcam customers. They pay for an illusion anyway.
Danielle was not a nasty person in the house like a Helen or Pauline. So I don't have any ill feelings towards her.

[Jake.]

(and I personally couldn't give a **** what she shows on webcam, I don't look into/research the personal lives of housemates because I don't need to)

[kistar]

Have you got evidence?

If you click on Danielle and see all the threads about her there is one about her giving oral sex on that there are links to some of her web cam screen shots not only are her boobs out but she is clearly showing her lady garden.

[Kizzy]

Yes because more airtime would have meant more money for her and Dexter ( he will no doubt be her manager) to make from her new soft porn career and that's so unfair of BB .

Was my comment so good you quote me twice for a response?
Whatever her and whoever choose to do after BB it's not the issue, she had a gameplan and it was doing ok.. till all the unnecessary 'revelations'

[Yaki da]

Have you got evidence?

http://img171.imagevenue.com/galshow.php?gal=gallery_1405469995905_1087lo

[Jake.]

If you click on Danielle and see all the threads about her there is one about her giving oral sex on that there are links to some of her web cam screen shots not only are her boobs out but she is clearly showing her lady garden.

Well then even better to her for managing to keep her pretence up... Big Brother told us we'd have ruthless housemates who'd do anything to win, yet the first sign we get of such happening people go off on one

[Jake.]

http://img171.imagevenue.com/galshow.php?gal=gallery_1405469995905_1087lo

Not lying when they said 'at your service'

[Yaki da]

(and I personally couldn't give a **** what she shows on webcam, I don't look into/research the personal lives of housemates because I don't need to)

I don't care what she does either, but we are making judgements on these HMs. She has been exposed as a fraud.

It's like saying "I don't care if Nasty Nick as making it up that his wife died in a car crash. That's his business. He seems like a nice guy in the house"

[Tarryn]

The only difference between Helen & Danielle is that Helen is protected because of legal stuff. Others can't speak about her who she is on the outside.
So BB let Biannca say what she wanted about Danielle but Helen, who let's not forget sold her body for sex, get's her identity hidden from others.
It is unfair.

[Yaki da]

Not lying when they said 'at your service'

What? :shrug:

[Yaki da]

The only difference between Helen & Danielle is that Helen is protected because of legal stuff. Others can't speak about her who she is on the outside.
So BB let Biannca say what she wanted about Danielle but Helen, who let's not forget sold her body for sex, get's her identity hidden from others.
It is unfair.

Helen being used as a way of deflecting legitimate criticism of others again.

[Jake.]

What? :shrug:

the name of the webcam show she was on

[mrflibble]

I don't like her and I thought she was a douche to her friends, but that doesn't mean that 1) she should've had outside information about her leaked into the house and 2) she should've been evicted instead of Kim. I don't want her back in the house though because I'm happy to see her gone, but she got a bad deal and it was unfair.

[Jake.]

Helen being used as a way of deflecting legitimate criticism of others again.

But it's the truth. Danielle can be used as a scapegoat but Helen can't because she's protected

[Tarryn]

Helen being used as a way of deflecting legitimate criticism of others again.

Helen has been the most protected Housemate in BB history.

[Jake.]

I don't care what she does either, but we are making judgements on these HMs. She has been exposed as a fraud.

It's like saying "I don't care if Nasty Nick as making it up that his wife died in a car crash. That's his business. He seems like a nice guy in the house"

You clearly do, because that's what this thread seems to be based on. She shouldn't have been exposed in the first place, that's the point. And hardly, she hasn't lied about people dying, she just kept certain parts of her job to herself (which she should be entitled to do).

[Yaki da]

the name of the webcam show she was on

She said she doesn't get her tits out

[Jake.]

She said she doesn't get her tits out

I know she did

[Yaki da]

You clearly do, because that's what this thread seems to be based on. She shouldn't have been exposed in the first place, that's the point.

Why shouldn't she?


And hardly, she hasn't lied about people dying, she just kept certain parts of her job to herself (which she should be entitled to do).

She didn't keep it to herself, she presented herself as something entirely opposite to the truth. As some sort of wholesome woman with high moral standards and attacked others for being slags. And she told blatant lies to the people she was supposed to be close to. What sort of person does this? And why are people defending her?

[Yaki da]

Helen has been the most protected Housemate in BB history.

No doubt that's true. But it is irrelevant to the fraudulent nature of Danielle's character

[Jake.]

Why shouldn't she?


Because what she choses to reveal about herself is completely down to her.. They haven't exposed Helen for what she's done and they haven't exposed Steven's business as being worth a grand.. She was playing a game and should have been allowed to play it.. My God, we were promised 'ruthless' characters from the beginning.

[Tarryn]

Why shouldn't she?




She didn't keep it to herself, she presented herself as something entirely opposite to the truth. As some sort of wholesome woman with high moral standards and attacked others for being slags. And she told blatant lies to the people she was supposed to be close to. What sort of person does this? And why are people defending her?

I'm not defending Danielle, I'm defending the principal.
You can't go after Danielle trying to expose every lie when Helen get's away with it as she is protected by law.
If that's the case they should never have let Helen on the show.
The show is about strangers placed together in house with no contact with the outside world. That's gone this series.

[Jake.]

I'm not defending Danielle, I'm defending the principal.
You can't go after Danielle trying to expose every lie when Helen get's away with it as she is protected by law.
If that's the case they should never have let Helen on the show.
The show is about strangers placed together in house with no contact with the outside world. That's gone this series.

:worship:

You'd honestly think she's the first housemate to ever do such a thing.. Plenty have, it's just that BB haven't felt the need to 'expose' them for the sake of drama.

[Yaki da]

Because what she choses to reveal about herself is completely down to her.

Not really. Not if your going to put yourself out there like she has.

They haven't exposed Helen for what she's done and they haven't exposed Steven's business as being worth a grand.. She was playing a game and should have been allowed to play it.. My God, we were promised 'ruthless' characters from the beginning.

Yes, but why are you defending the game she played when it was so utterly nasty and fraudulent? And it was such a stupid game anyway. She knew full well everyone on the outside would know how full of it she was.

[Jake.]

Yes, but why are you defending the game she played when it was so utterly nasty and fraudulent? And it was such a stupid game anyway. She knew full well everyone on the outside would know how full of it she was.

Because I don't care for goody-goody or nice housemates who provide nothing.. Don't really see why I should have to explain why I enjoyed Danielle as a housemate.

[Yaki da]

I'm not defending Danielle, I'm defending the principal.
You can't go after Danielle trying to expose every lie when Helen get's away with it as she is protected by law.

You're talking about decisions the Big Brother production team make. This is a thread discussing Danielle's character. I don;t disagree that they seem to be treating people differently. But this has nothing to do with Danielle's fraudulence and why people are defending it.

If that's the case they should never have let Helen on the show.
The show is about strangers placed together in house with no contact with the outside world. That's gone this series.

I wish Helen never was on the show. But again, people are trying to get off the topic, because they know full well Danielle is impossible to defend.

[Tarryn]

Not really. Not if your going to put yourself out there like she has.



Yes, but why are you defending the game she played when it was so utterly nasty and fraudulent? And it was such a stupid game anyway. She knew full well everyone on the outside would know how full of it she was.

How was it nasty ?.
Pauline reducing a grown man to tears & loving it was nasty but I did not see anything Danielle did as nasty.
When Marlon was lept upon for pushing the button Danielle was the only one who comforted him. That was a nice thing to do.

[Yaki da]

Because I don't care for goody-goody or nice housemates who provide nothing.. Don't really see why I should have to explain why I enjoyed Danielle as a housemate.

If you enjoyed her, fair enough. But there are people actually defending her as some sort of good girl who has been badly mistreated. It's unbelievable.

[Yaki da]

How was it nasty ?.
Pauline reducing a grown man to tears & loving it was nasty but I did not see anything Danielle did as nasty.

Again, you'll get no disagreement from me on Pauline. She was horrid. What has it got to do with Danielle? Deflection, deflection, deflection. Infact, you're doing what Vanessa Feltz accused Pauline of always doing.

When Marlon was lept upon for pushing the button Danielle was the only one who comforted him. That was a nice thing to do.

She just agreed with everyone in the room, whoever they were.

[Jake.]

How was it nasty ?.
Pauline reducing a grown man to tears & loving it was nasty but I did not see anything Danielle did as nasty.
When Marlon was lept upon for pushing the button Danielle was the only one who comforted him. That was a nice thing to do.

Exactly. She isn't a horrible person by any stretch of the imagination

[Yaki da]

Exactly. She isn't a horrible person by any stretch of the imagination

Some of her tweets using derogatory language for homosexuals might make you re-think that.

[Beastie]

Don't think she was robbed. We got the best out of her I think and that's it.

[Tarryn]

Again, you'll get no disagreement from me on Pauline. She was horrid. What has it got to do with Danielle? Deflection, deflection, deflection. Infact, you're doing what Vanessa Feltz accused Pauline of always doing.



She just agreed with everyone in the room, whoever they were.

Deflection ?. Can we not speak the name of others when trying to make a point ?.
I've said that Danielle has every right to say any lie she wants. She knew there was a good chance she would be found out.
But others (I won't say their name for fear of being shot) have told lies, so she is no worse.
I also have no interest if she is a virgin or not. Her business. No one else's.

[Jake.]

If you enjoyed her, fair enough. But there are people actually defending her as some sort of good girl who has been badly mistreated. It's unbelievable.

Mistreated, I can agree with because of how her past has been leaked. As you've said, the viewing public can look at her past if they wish and take those things into account when judging her (I don't personally because it's only a gameshow), but the fact that she kept certain things disclosed is down to her. It applies to all housemates, if Steven wishes to convince the housemates he has a successful business, then that's fine.

[Jake.]

Some of her tweets using derogatory language for homosexuals might make you re-think that.

I've seen them, so no

[Yaki da]

Deflection ?. Can we not speak the name of others when trying to make a point ?.
I've said that Danielle has every right to say any lie she wants. She knew there was a good chance she would be found out.
But others (I won't say their name for fear of being shot) have told lies, so she is no worse.

She was by far the most fraudulent person in the house this year. Which is not to say others aren't. But she took the biscuit.

[Tarryn]

She was by far the most fraudulent person in the house this year. Which is not to say others aren't. But she took the biscuit.

Then she should give the biscuit back, thieving cow :nono:

[Yaki da]

Mistreated, I can agree with because of how her past has been leaked.

A new housemate came in and decided she didn't trust her based on what she knew. Any new housemate coming in seeing Nasty Nick or Victor doing what they had been doing, would do the same.

As you've said, the viewing public can look at her past if they wish and take those things into account when judging her (I don't personally because it's only a gameshow), but the fact that she kept certain things disclosed is down to her.

She didn't merely keep things disclosed... She told barefaced lies.

[Jake.]

A new housemate came in and decided she didn't trust her based on what she knew. Any new housemate coming in seeing Nasty Nick or Victor doing what they had been doing, would do the same.

Well, they couldn't spread what they wanted to because the 'no contact with the outside' rule was far more strict, and BB wouldn't have leaked info in attempts to cause drama.

[Cherie]

I thought she was a great housemate, i loved the fact that she put on this persona but we all sort of knew the truth.

She was playing a game and i will miss her:(

. I'd rather watch Dani muddle her way through her erratiic gameplan than listen to Mark pretend not to know what sincere and unpredictable meant :hehe:

[Cherie]

Chris put into words what alot of Dani fans were thinking we didn't care what she did on the outside just liked her for how she was in the house :hmph: and it was actually really nice to see someone coming out and saying "that was not a fair eviction" rather than the usual "it is what it is bla bla"

[Jake.]

Chris put into words what alot of Dani fans were thinking we didn't care what she did on the outside just liked her for how she was in the house :hmph: and it was actually really nice to see someone coming out and saying "that was not a fair eviction" rather than the usual "it is what it is bla bla"

:clap1:

[Yaki da]

Chris put into words what alot of Dani fans were thinking we didn't care what she did on the outside

You didn't care about the truth, you mean.

[Tarryn]

You didn't care about the truth, you mean.

Then right a letter to OFCOM about being lied to.

[Jake.]

You didn't care about the truth, you mean.

Obviously..

[Northern Monkey]

She fooled the housemates NOT US,We all knew the truth.We should'nt be all bitter.Her eviction should not have taken place.Kim is gone anyway,Danielle should still be in there.

[Yaki da]

She fooled the housemates NOT US,We all knew the truth.We should'nt be all bitter.Her eviction should not have taken place.Kim is gone anyway,Danielle should still be in there.

She should have gone in the first week imo. I thought Tamara was a more honest and fun person.

[Kazanne]

That's because people carry different opinions to yourself, shocking, I know. Fact is, she was robbed last night, no other way to put it.. I think it'd be pretty clear to producers that if Kim was too ill to be there for an eviction night then she wouldn't be going back in anytime soon. Farce.

:clap1::clap1:

[Cherie]

You didn't care about the truth, you mean.

We knew the truth :laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

She should have gone in the first week imo. I thought Tamara was a more honest and fun person.

I'll agree on the honest part.

[Yaki da]

We knew the truth :laugh:

And carried on liking a totally fraudulent and rather sleazy person anyway

[Northern Monkey]

And carried on liking a totally fraudulent and rather sleazy person anyway

What's wrong with somebody being dishonest in an attempt to win a gameshow?

[Jake.]

What's wrong with somebody being dishonest in an attempt to win a gameshow?

God knows, apparently everybody needs to be 100% honest and truthful and must reveal everything about themselves

[Yaki da]

What's wrong with somebody being dishonest in an attempt to win a gameshow?

She wasn't trying to win. She was trying to promote herself as a particular character to make more money out of her sleazy line of work.

[Yaki da]

God knows, apparently everybody needs to be 100% honest and truthful and must reveal everything about themselves

She could have tried to at least reach 10% levels of honesty.

[Jake.]

She could have tried to at least reach 10% levels of honesty.

She said she models, she said she's a webcam girl and she was open about her faith..

[Yaki da]

She said she models

Denied doing topless.

she said she's a webcam girl

She didn't. It was revealed to them.

and she was open about her faith..

Almost certainly bollocks.

[Jake.]

Denied doing topless.



She didn't. It was revealed to them.



Almost certainly bollocks.

And again, I really am not bothered about what she did and didn't tell

[Yaki da]

And again, I really am not bothered about what she did and didn't tell

Yes, I know. You know full well she is fraudulent and you cheer her on and defend her anyway.

One of the many reasons I think people give up on this show. You can be the most obvious arsehole and still get defended as though the truth isn't the truth

[Jake.]

Yes, I know. You know full well she is fraudulent and you cheer her on and defend her anyway.

One of the many reasons I think people give up on this show. You can be the most obvious arsehole and still get defended as though the truth isn't the truth

Yup, I love it.. I don't get so invested into the characters that I feel the need to hate housemates/scrutinise their every move on the outside

[Jamesy]

I don't like Danielle although I do think her eviction was unfair. Fake or not, the whole week of tasks was pretty much a direct target towards her. Why not reveal Helen's prostitute past? Kim's boyfriend talking on BOTS? Steven being broke? Nope, lets just make sure it's all negative stuff about Danielle.

I'm not defending her as I'm not fussed on her at all. But given her suspicious eviction and the targeting this week it hardly appears as fair and shows producer manipulation.

[Jake.]

I don't like Danielle although I do think her eviction was unfair. Fake or not, the whole week of tasks was pretty much a direct target towards her. Why not reveal Helen's prostitute past? Kim's boyfriend talking on BOTS? Steven being broke? Nope, lets just make sure it's all negative stuff about Danielle.

I'm not defending her as I'm not fussed on her at all. But given her suspicious eviction and the targeting this week it hardly appears as fair and shows producer manipulation.

:clap1:

But apparently none of that matters because Danielle lied about getting her tits out

[MarcusMel]

Danelle adopted a persona and took it into the BB house. She played that persona well.
Is BB a Gameshow? People keep saying it is. Therefore based on the gameshow theory Danelle played the BB game well. Annoyed and intregued the public at the same time.
Letting the outside info into the house is not normally part of the game. However that went out with crowd reaction. So a little more and a little more and next its complete interaction with public and answers mean prizes type thing.

Audence member 'Paul' is he now a celeb? All this really does is take our minds off every day life and all the real horrible stuff that real people/gangs etc do to one another.
T.V. gameshows -the hope and opiate to the public masses.

However the normal reaction to this is - BB forum -it has nothing to do with real life.

So the OP's origional objecting is in itself hypocritical. Life is being ingored by watching and absorbing BB is in a way living a false life. The main objection is the a BB HM was being false and got in to BB with a false act.

People very rarely actually think. Probably because they can't empty themselfves of old false beliefs and build up to see the world in new and interesting ways.

Ask any criminal any bully any saint "Are you a good person" the answer is always the same 'Yes". The capacity for self to recognise being in the wrong seems almost non-existant. The same seems true for behaviour, we see behaviour that is bad but do not recognise that we are behaving in the way we identify bad.

Now that is off my chest and going nowhere - time to enjoy the only thing I truly own - the present time of now!

Spelling apology - I am dyslexic and can't easily recongnise spelling mistakes or good english writing :D

[Jack_]

What is people's problems on here with housemates lying? So long as they contribute to the show and are entertaining that's all that's important, so who cares? It's a gameshow, it they want to lie so be it :shrug: I'm yet to discover why this is such a big issue, it's hardly the crime of the century...it's a bloody TV show

[Jake.]

What is people's problems on here with housemates lying? So long as they contribute to the show and are entertaining that's all that's important, so who cares? It's a gameshow, it they want to lie so be it :shrug: I'm yet to discover why this is such a big issue, it's hardly the crime of the century...it's a bloody TV show

:lovedup:

[Cherie]

And carried on liking a totally fraudulent and rather sleazy person anyway

and your point is?

[Scotty07]

Still trying to work out why big brother didn't keep classy Danielle in, seeing they no longer have their precious showmance to dominate the highlight show.:shrug:

[Marsh.]

the same can't be said for people like Kim.

:joker: The last two weeks has been the Steven and Kim show.

All she had to do was "open it" to get everyone talking.

[Jake.]

:joker: The last two weeks has been the Steven and Kim show.

All she had to do was "open it" to get everyone talking.

But she herself hasn't given any real interesting talking points. The showmance stuff is horrid and the majority of it has been about how 'controlling' Steven is. And 'open it', again, came from Steven.

[coffee]

I hated Danielle at first. I'm Scottish and she made me really embarrassed but I grew to love her. I think since Kim walked then they should have canceled the new HM decision or should bring Danielle back at some point.

[Razor]

I found her rather unwatchable - constant moaning and bitching. Good riddance.


^^^^ this