Lets all stab Chris time

[chuff me dizzy]

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-45-helen-and-pav-copy-honesty


Pair of rotten getts ,hope Pav is up against Chris this week, lets see who goes

[mooo]

Yeah why didnt pav just chose someone else?

[mrflibble]

Booo. Pav sucks. Helen sucks. Get them all out!

[Spoon]

:wavey: Bye Pav.

[mrflibble]

I don't understand why Pav was all 'let's make the public happy' and then doesn't get rid of Steven and then picks on Chris. He ain't doing himself any favours.

[Johnnyuk123]

Helen knew she should have picked herself.:hehe:

[abhorson]

I don't understand why Pav was all 'let's make the public happy' and then doesn't get rid of Steven and then picks on Chris. He ain't doing himself any favours.


My thoughts too. I thought he was going to be a smart game player:shrug:

[chuff me dizzy]

They heard the cheers for him they know he's a MASSIVE chance of winning ,they are scared of him ,set of twats !! Lets see how big Pav is, let him tell helen ,everyone about Rooney !!

[mrflibble]

We need even bigger cheers for Chris and some positive chanting, let him know we all love him :smug:

[Tarryn]

It seems now Danielle has gone Chris will not be the target this week.
The house won't win though. I really don't think Chris will go on VTE unless he does something like kick a puppy.
I really hat the "Pack mentality" in that house.
Every week it's someone getting the hate.
Christopher would be it if he were not protected by his friendship with Mark.
I was liking Pav until this. He is kind of stupid doing this. Going in with the knowledge of what the public think, he has saved Steven & now has a grudge against Chris.
Pav won't last long now.

[Yaki da]

Looks like they're speaking the truth to me

[chuff me dizzy]

We need even bigger cheers for Chris and some positive chanting, let him know we all love him :smug:

That will do nicely !! :cheer2::cheer2:

[Brother Leon]

Well...he is. Don't let the fact you like him cloud the fact he is.

[Patricia4]

Pav picked Chris because Helen did and followed most of what she said they are two rotters get Pav up this week.

[Achilles]

Better not be Chris vs Ashleigh next week.

[Tarryn]

Looks like they're speaking the truth to me

You would say that, you have a grudge against Chris.

[Johnnyuk123]

They really are not clever enough to realize that if Chris is put up by them then all it means is that one or more of them will be against him. Diminishing their own chance of staying lol

[LukeB]

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-45-helen-and-pav-copy-honesty


Pair of rotten getts ,hope Pav is up against Chris this week, lets see who goes

Chris is a good housemate him winning wont be that horrible i mean

Luke A winning was a disaster and people think the same about sam winning.

[chuff me dizzy]

Chris is a good housemate him winning wont be that horrible i mean

Luke A winning was a disaster and people think the same about sam winning.

I loved Luke A and Sam !!Like lord Aaron they were nice people and nice people win 99% of the time !!

[Yaki da]

They heard the cheers for him they know he's a MASSIVE chance of winning ,they are scared of him ,set of twats !! Lets see how big Pav is, let him tell helen ,everyone about Rooney !!

Surely after hearing cheers for him they'd suck up...

[Yaki da]

You would say that, you have a grudge against Chris.

Are they not telling the truth?

[LukeB]

I loved Luke A and Sam !!Like lord Aaron they were nice people and nice people win 99% of the time !!

i like sam but didnt like Luke A he was so obsessed with the insiders and Luke S because he is hot. only won over pity! he wasn't an interesting character.

only winner of channel 5 i agree with was Sam but if chris or winston win i be happy

[Josy]

He was the easy target

[Achilles]

Pav thinks he playing a good game by going with the easy option to avoid being nominated. Public opinion is what matters Pav! Show some F'in balls and just say Helen. Who cares if she gets the hump, just make an excuse and say you had to choose someone different :rolleyes: Idiot he is

[chuff me dizzy]

He was the easy target

EXACTLY ,Pav has spent all week having a go at Steven behind his back,even wonted to evict him ,but had to chose Chris because he knows he won't have a go back at him

[jessicadanielle]

Pav thinks he playing a good game by going with the easy option to avoid being nominated. Public opinion is what matters Pav! Show some F'in balls and just say Helen. Who cares if she gets the hump, just make an excuse and say you had to choose someone different :rolleyes: Idiot he is

To be honest it could have been a good game move. Public opinion is what matters yeah, but from the boos last night Pav already knows he's not that popular (though I think he should be personally! I'm enjoying him so far). So if he picked one of the big group, they are all more likely to nominate him, get him up this week, and with the boos and lack of a strong fanbase there's a chance he'd be out. However, picking Chris could mean he's less likely to be nominated so not up for eviction, and giving him more time to develop a fanbase before he is up for eviction, making him more likely to stay.

I reckon it's more likely that he was just **** scared of saying one of the big group ha, but he did say Stephen was the one he least liked in the Open Up task the other day, so maybe not.

[Yaki da]

Wasn't Pav supposed to copy her?

[Me. I Am Salman]

Well...he is. Don't let the fact you like him cloud the fact he is.

^^^^^^^

it seems saint chris can't do any wrong

[Mystic Mock]

Better not be Chris vs Ashleigh next week.

I think it might be Chris, Ashleigh, Ash, and Pav up for the vote this week at this rate.

[Headie]

They are right though - Chris is the most two-faced housemate!

I'm glad the other HMs can see it and not just me!

[Headie]

"He does have a tendency to go to the diary room and the pod and slate people and then finds it difficult to admit what he's said afterwards"

Completely correct :clap1:

[jessicadanielle]

"He does have a tendency to go to the diary room and the pod and slate people and then finds it difficult to admit what he's said afterwards"

Completely correct :clap1:

He always admits that he's said stuff and apologises.

By always I mean the two times they've actually shown him do this

[Mystic Mock]

They are right though - Chris is the most two-faced housemate!

I'm glad the other HMs can see it and not just me!

He is I agree, but he can make me laugh sometimes, and his a better choice to win than Mark or Zoe.

Sadly the 3 big guns in Helen, Ash, and Ashleigh will be completely snubbed by the public once the final two is Chris vs Mark.

[Headie]

He always admits that he's said stuff and apologises.

By always I mean the two times they've actually shown him do this

He wasn't going to admit what he said to Biannca until she pulled him up on it.

[chuff me dizzy]

"He does have a tendency to go to the diary room and the pod and slate people and then finds it difficult to admit what he's said afterwards"

Completely correct :clap1:

He avoids arguments, doesn't make him a backstabber, he's just a nice bloke, but sadly some folk don't like nice people :shrug:

[Yaki da]

He avoids arguments, doesn't make him a backstabber, he's just a nice bloke, but sadly some folk don't like nice people :shrug:

Well they're not going to like him if he's just been slagging them off are they?

[jessicadanielle]

He wasn't going to admit what he said to Biannca until she pulled him up on it.

Ohh I thought by "admit" you meant once he's confronted about it, not just confronting people himself.

Yeah I do agree Chris's downfall is that I wish he'd tell people what he thought. Although sometimes I do think it'd be unnecessary to start confrontation, and I get why he says stuff in the DR instead of to the person.

With the Biannca situation though, I would have loved him to tell her he thought it was wrong to spread gossip about Danielle at the time, or at least had more conviction in his opinion when she confronted him about it. He's clearly just nervous about starting arguments, but there are times when bitches need to be told!

[chuff me dizzy]

Well they're not going to like him if he's just been slagging them off are they?

Is he the only one discussing the others ?

[Brother Leon]

i like sam but didnt like Luke A he was so obsessed with the insiders and Luke S because he is hot. only won over pity! he wasn't an interesting character.

only winner of channel 5 i agree with was Sam but if chris or winston win i be happy

Don't ever call out Marlon for doing nothing again...

[Me. I Am Salman]

He avoids arguments, doesn't make him a backstabber, he's just a nice bloke, but sadly some folk don't like nice people :shrug:

No, he comes across condescending, highly judgemental and snobbish. A nice bloke would try and see past people's flaws and get along with them.

Without even getting to know Biannca he was all "she makes Helen look like the Virgin Mary". Yet people want to condemn Helen for calling him out? Lol.

[Lex]

They heard the cheers for him they know he's a MASSIVE chance of winning ,they are scared of him ,set of twats !! Lets see how big Pav is, let him tell helen ,everyone about Rooney !!

I wouldn't worry Chuff...Chris is going to win anyway....and the reason that Pav chose Chris is simply "GamePlaying"!...He knows how popular Chris is on the outside, and has reasoned that he'd better try and chip away at that popularity in order to stand a chance of getting the crown himself...Winston , Christopher and Mark will be in his sights too!
....It's the very reason that he got rid of Danielle yesterday...there would have been no point evicting one of the weaker competitors such as Steven or Ashleigh would there!
.....But Chris' strength of character is strong enough to endure whatever the likes of Pav and Helen can throw at him! :smug:

[Mystic Mock]

Ashleigh is far from a weak competitor Lex, she will be a threat at the final, I just can't see some of the female voters voting for her to win though.

[chuff me dizzy]

I wouldn't worry Chuff...Chris is going to win anyway....and the reason that Pav chose Chris is simply "GamePlaying"!...He knows how popular Chris is on the outside, and has reasoned that he'd better try and chip away at that popularity in order to stand a chance of getting the crown himself...Winston , Christopher and Mark will be in his sights too!
....It's the very reason that he got rid of Danielle yesterday...there would have been no point evicting one of the weaker competitors such as Steven or Ashleigh would there!
.....But Chris' strength of character is strong enough to endure whatever the likes of Pav and Helen can throw at him! :smug:

Im sure if he doesn't win ( which he should ) he will be in last 2 ,who else out of the house can be that certain ? Not Pav,Helen !! :joker:

[Lostie!]

Looks like they're speaking the truth to me

Really? Because Pav lost me at "He's an actor". What a ridiculous reason to believe someone is two-faced.

[Lex]

Ashleigh is far from a weak competitor Lex, she will be a threat at the final, I just can't see some of the female voters voting for her to win though.

Hi Mockinator, hope you are well my friend! :thumbs:

....I meant that Ashleigh and Steven got the biggest boo's from the crowd,...and if Pav is seeing the show anything like me, then he personally wouldn't see her placing above Christopher, Chris, Mark, Winston , and of course Helen will be in the final five...so no , I can't agree that she is a threat really?....mind you Mock...i'm often wrong though. :laugh:

Cheers.

[rubymoo]

Rotten arseholes!

I thought Helen would've picked Ashleigh, for obvious reasons. And Pav would've had the knowledge that Chris is well liked by the public, so to pick him was suicide!

Christopher was good though pulling him up on his hesitation, made him look a twat!

[Gusto Brunt]

Better not be Chris vs Ashleigh next week.

BB might just orchestrate that.

And Steven will be up, but BB will do something to reverse that.

I'm getting used to this now.:sleep:

[Mystic Mock]

Hi Mockinator, hope you are well my friend! :thumbs:

....I meant that Ashleigh and Steven got the biggest boo's from the crowd,...and if Pav is seeing the show anything like me, then he personally wouldn't see her placing above Christopher, Chris, Mark, Winston , and of course Helen will be in the final five...so no , I can't agree that she is a threat really?....mind you Mock...i'm often wrong though. :laugh:

Cheers.

Hello Lex I'm fine thanks, how are you?

I personally don't see Christopher or Winston making the final, I don't know why but I think that the final will consist of this.

1st place - Chris
2nd place - Mark
3rd place - Ashleigh
4th place - Helen
5th place - Zoe (who will end up hated)

[Northern Monkey]

I heard no lies.Thing with Chris that if he wants to play 'the nice guy' he needs to fully embrace that role and not slag people off or he undermines his whole image.

[Speedy37]

Hello Lex I'm fine thanks, how are you?

I personally don't see Christopher or Winston making the final, I don't know why but I think that the final will consist of this.

1st place - Chris
2nd place - Mark
3rd place - Ashleigh
4th place - Helen
5th place - Zoe (who will end up hated)

That would be my dream final! :bigsmile:

Edit: Well except Helen should be in 5th place an Zoe in 4th!

[Johnnyuk123]

Am i the only one who thinks that they all slag each other off and back stab?:joker:

[armand.kay]

Making the fan fave a target :clap1:

[rubymoo]

In the real world, everyone has something to say about someone else, it's only human to have an opinion, people relate to him because he's real life and normal, I'm sick of this bull**** of I say it to your face, people like that have poor social skills, I'm speaking as a mother to teenagers, a sister to 3, and from a disfuntional family full of ****.

Gossip is rife everywhere you go, just take a look in the factories, the shops, schools, residential care homes and many other places where you find people.

Other people in the house have said far worse and all housemates have had their little gossip, Chris is one of a few in there that the public can relate to and I for one think he's brilliant!

Chris to win!:cheer2:

[rubymoo]

Am i the only one who thinks that they all slag each other off and back stab?:joker:

Nope you're not on your own:spin:

You posted whilst I was typing and pretty much said what I was thinking:hehe:

I just rambled on!

[Ammi]

In the real world, everyone has something to say about someone else, it's only human to have an opinion, people relate to him because he's real life and normal, I'm sick of this bull**** of I say it to your face, people like that have poor social skills, I'm speaking as a mother to teenagers, a sister to 3, and from a disfuntional family full of ****.

Gossip is rife everywhere you go, just take a look in the factories, the shops, schools, residential care homes and many other places where you find people.

Other people in the house have said far worse and all housemates have had their little gossip, Chris is one of a few in there that the public can relate to and I for one think he's brilliant!

Chris to win!:cheer2:


..great post Ruby..'gossiping' is a release and something everyone does because we all need to release things at times and I would think no more so in that pressure cooker environment..sometimes in the DR and sometimes to another housemate etc but being spiteful and hurtful to people just because you have no awareness of their feelings is something entirely different and a very unpleasant characteristic with someone....people who do that, often hate when it's done to them though..:laugh:...

[MarcusMel]

The motivation for keeping calm and avoiding Helen in drunk or 'hurt me' type coments is obvious, it is difficult enough living with Helen with out being a target of her 'you effing bas-tard' to everyone in the house.

So two faced, maybe, but most would be just to protect themselves from that grating irritating whale of a mouth of Helens.

[rubymoo]

..great post Ruby..'gossiping' is a release and something everyone does because we all need to release things at times and I would think no more so in that pressure cooker environment..sometimes in the DR and sometimes to another housemate etc but being spiteful and hurtful to people just because you have no awareness of their feelings is something entirely different and a very unpleasant characteristic with someone....people who do that, often hate when it's done to them though..:laugh:...

Thanks Ammi:blush2:

[chuff me dizzy]

In the real world, everyone has something to say about someone else, it's only human to have an opinion, people relate to him because he's real life and normal, I'm sick of this bull**** of I say it to your face, people like that have poor social skills, I'm speaking as a mother to teenagers, a sister to 3, and from a disfuntional family full of ****.

Gossip is rife everywhere you go, just take a look in the factories, the shops, schools, residential care homes and many other places where you find people.

Other people in the house have said far worse and all housemates have had their little gossip, Chris is one of a few in there that the public can relate to and I for one think he's brilliant!

Chris to win!:cheer2:

Well said ,i wonder how many of people slating Chris actually ALWAYS tell everyone to their faces ? in the real world this just doesn't happen

[Lister of Smeg]

Pav cracked under the pressure there I doubt he feels that way just didnt want to have to put up with the inevitable **** storm that would be coming his way from Helen and Steven if he didnt toe the party line . Its sad Helen has such a grip over the house :nono:.

[Mystic Mock]

That would be my dream final! :bigsmile:

Edit: Well except Helen should be in 5th place an Zoe in 4th!

Well good luck with it as it seems likely to happen imo.

I'm gonna do my nomination predictions this week to see who looks like that they'll go up for eviction this week if anyone's interested.

Ash - Ashleigh & Chris
Ashleigh - Ash & Winston
Chris - Steven & Winston
Christopher - Winston & Steven
Helen - Ashleigh & Chris
Mark - Ashleigh & Ash
Pav - Chris & Steven
Steven - Ashleigh & Chris
Winston - Ashleigh & Chris
Zoe - Chris & Pav

Ash - 2 Nominations
Ashleigh - 5 Nominations
Chris - 6 Nominations
Christopher - 0 Nominations
Helen - Immune
Mark - 0 Nominations
Pav - 1 Nomination
Steven - 3 Nominations
Winston - 3 Nominations
Zoe - 0 Nominations

Left normal it's an Ashleigh vs Chris eviction. If it's 2 nominations or more and you're up then it will be an Ash vs Ashleigh vs Chris vs Steven vs Winston eviction.

[MeMyselfAndI]

As long as it's not Chris v Ashleigh, I'll be fine.

[Speedy37]

Pav and Zoe can´t be nominated?
And if so, i think Steven will get at least 3 votes, so there is a chance he will be up!

[chuff me dizzy]

Pav cracked under the pressure there I doubt he feels that way just didnt want to have to put up with the inevitable **** storm that would be coming his way from Helen and Steven if he didnt toe the party line . Its sad Helen has such a grip over the house :nono:.

He wanted to evict Steven ,but chose to put his knife in Chris's back like a true coward

[Daffodil]

It's amazing how much power Helen wealds.

[chuff me dizzy]

It's amazing how much power Helen wealds.

Sickening more like !!

[abhorson]

I wouldn't worry Chuff...Chris is going to win anyway....and the reason that Pav chose Chris is simply "GamePlaying"!...He knows how popular Chris is on the outside, and has reasoned that he'd better try and chip away at that popularity in order to stand a chance of getting the crown himself...Winston , Christopher and Mark will be in his sights too!
....It's the very reason that he got rid of Danielle yesterday...there would have been no point evicting one of the weaker competitors such as Steven or Ashleigh would there!
.....But Chris' strength of character is strong enough to endure whatever the likes of Pav and Helen can throw at him! :smug:


This^^

[Lex]

Hello Lex I'm fine thanks, how are you?

I personally don't see Christopher or Winston making the final, I don't know why but I think that the final will consist of this.

1st place - Chris
2nd place - Mark
3rd place - Ashleigh
4th place - Helen
5th place - Zoe (who will end up hated)


Yes i'm doing fine thanks my friend. [And sorry for the delayed reply....my grandson just came in, so i'll have to go for now.]
...My final five is...

Chris.
Christopher.
Mark.
Winston.
Helen.

...But as I said....i'm often far off the mark! lol. :laugh2:


Cheers.

[Mystic Mock]

Well said ,i wonder how many of people slating Chris actually ALWAYS tell everyone to their faces ? in the real world this just doesn't happen

But then shouldn't this same thing be used for Ashleigh and other Housemates as well?

[chuff me dizzy]

But then shouldn't this same thing be used for Ashleigh and other Housemates as well?

But Pav,Helen chose Chris, this is what this thread is about

[Gusto Brunt]

I heard no lies.Thing with Chris that if he wants to play 'the nice guy' he needs to fully embrace that role and not slag people off or he undermines his whole image.

You're right.

[rubymoo]

Well said ,i wonder how many of people slating Chris actually ALWAYS tell everyone to their faces ? in the real world this just doesn't happen

Thanks Chuff:wavey:

I agree Pav is a coward, the public will see through him though! What gets me is that they had one job to do and that was to get Steven out, and they messed that up! Pair of twats!

[Johnnyuk123]

Well said ,i wonder how many of people slating Chris actually ALWAYS tell everyone to their faces ? in the real world this just doesn't happen

Agreed and also he doesn't have to give them a reason/explain himself at all just like ANY other housemate in there.

[chuff me dizzy]

Thanks Chuff:wavey:

I agree Pav is a coward, the public will see through him though! What gets me is that they had one job to do and that was to get Steven out, and they messed that up! Pair of twats!

Because he's spineless !!

[chuff me dizzy]

Agreed and also he doesn't have to give them a reason/explain himself at all just like ANY other housemate in there.

He has the nicest personality of all of them ,you can see he's been brought up to be good and respectful,something sadly lacking in todays society

[Mystic Mock]

Yes i'm doing fine thanks my friend. [And sorry for the delayed reply....my grandson just came in, so i'll have to go for now.]
...My final five is...

Chris.
Christopher.
Mark.
Winston.
Helen.

...But as I said....i'm often far off the mark! lol. :laugh2:


Cheers.

Lol it's fine, I'm just glad to have got your opinion.

[abhorson]

Not so much a coward, just playing the game to what he thinks was his benefit.

Might give him a favour for a week or so with the so-called call kids, but not long term and certainly not with many of the GBP.

But for an extra week, wise play.

For long term, stupid play.

[user104658]

Not so much a coward, just playing the game to what he thinks was his benefit.

Might give him a favour for a week or so with the so-called call kids, but not long term and certainly not with many of the GBP.

But for an extra week, wise play.

For long term, stupid play.

For long term play, directly and openly taking on Helen on a daily basis would be the sensible option. Buy I don't think he has the balls for that. You'd have to treat the whole experience like going off to war, because it would be a daily battle and a very uncomfortable place to live :joker:.

[chuff me dizzy]

For long term play, directly and openly taking on Helen on a daily basis would be the sensible option. Buy I don't think he has the balls for that. You'd have to treat the whole experience like going off to war, because it would be a daily battle and a very uncomfortable place to live :joker:.

its not about balls, its about personality

[mrflibble]

For long term play, directly and openly taking on Helen on a daily basis would be the sensible option. Buy I don't think he has the balls for that. You'd have to treat the whole experience like going off to war, because it would be a daily battle and a very uncomfortable place to live :joker:.
I don't think it's about balls, but Helen is just a weak and aggressive person. She's like a dying animal fighting off anyone who comes near her. She won't listen to anyone, so there's no point being completely direct with her. No matter how big your balls are, it's a fruitless exercise. The only way to live with her is to just be cordial and tiptoe around her because anything will set her off.

I don't actually think many of the housemates are that two-faced; Danielle was one of the biggest ones. Everyone in the house mainly maintains a friendly and polite relationship with people they don't like or get on with and bitch/vent to BB or their close friends in the house. That does not make people two faced, it makes them human. These so-called 'tell it to your face' people are like Helen above, weak and aggressive. It's a territorial move to scare off others and is not honest or ballsy. In turn, Chris shows more strength in keeping himself restrained and trying to see past the negative aspects of these people and be friendly with all of them. Most of them are hypocritical, however, as they say that they're always direct and upfront and then go bitch behind people's backs and then get defensive when someone else bitches about them. Chris has never said he doesn't bitch, every time he has he goes 'now I'm joining in with the bitching'. He is genuinely a nice guy, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have bad things to say about people because he's human as well. We don't see many of other people's DR rants/opinions, likely due to the fact they're not as articulate or amusing as Chris's and/or because they're probably bitching to their friends about the same things already.

I know this isn't the Chris is two-faced thread, but I feel it's relevant here as well :P

[vixenk99]

I quite like Chris. I think he's not into confrontation because how on earth could you win with these people? Try to bring up something in conversation and they're (the majority) apt to rip his head off. I'd be very much like him...be civil and pleasant with everyone, stay away from drama, say what I really feel in the DR. Tho the DR isn't even a safe place anymore *sigh*

[duclos]

Pav, Pav, Pav....I hated you already cause you're a snooze fest. Now your ganging up on my boy Chris? GET OUT OF THE HOUSE!

[Ammi]

For long term play, directly and openly taking on Helen on a daily basis would be the sensible option. Buy I don't think he has the balls for that. You'd have to treat the whole experience like going off to war, because it would be a daily battle and a very uncomfortable place to live :joker:.

..yeah I agree, that would be just too much for anyone because it wouldn't just be taking on Helen on a daily basis which would be exhausting enough and you would have to have an armoured vehicle to protect you from her barrage of abuse..it would also be isolating yourself from her gang as well..I think the most we can hope for is that housemates occasionally stand up to her when she's at her worst and being awful to someone and credit to any of them who do...Ash is the one who I have the littlest of respect for because he's just been so happy to coast his time in her shadow and offered very little ion his own right....