The most important rule of all

[Josy]

Looks like most have forgotten the MOST IMPORTANT RULE OF BB

14) THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE OF ALL: Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time.

This rule has been widely known as the most important rule of all since day 1 series 1.

So they can do whatever they want, make any decisions and changes they want as long as they don't deceitfully have the public spending money in a vote then ANYTHING is fair game.

They never have a twist that every single fan of the show will be happy with, people only enjoy the twists if it favours a housemate they like which is obvious, but to shout that everything's a big fix the minute it goes against your housemate is pointless, the twist that affected your favourite might be crap, it might be unfair and so on but it isn't a 'FIX'.

Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time. Big Brother’s decision is final.

[rubymoo]

As i've said in many a post......it's a game!

[Daffodil]

The problem is that BB have changed their rules so many times, that any future things will just not be believed...the housemates will become totally complacent.

[Jay.]

I like the show still, it still entertains me! I don't mind the twists or anything, even outside contact because it's still entertainment. At the end of the day it is only a tv show.

[sampvt]

If they reserve the right to change things then so do we, see my post Ive had a great idea.

[Achilles]

So if Big Brother decide they want to give Ashleigh immunity, then change their mind because they can change the rules at anytime, the same applies to Helen's immunity?
Or has there been an amendment to the rule and it's now
Big Brother can change the rules at anytime when it involves certain housemates

[armand.kay]

Those rules are for the housemates, and I think tricking the voting public is taking it a bit to far but whatever.

[Josy]

So if Big Brother decide they want to give Ashleigh immunity, then change their mind because they can change the rules at anytime, the same applies to Helen's immunity?
Or has there been an amendment to the rule and it's now
Big Brother can change the rules at anytime when it involves certain housemates

No the rules always been the same.

Ashleigh wasn't the only power housemate btw.

Last nights twist had nothing to do with Helen but if they decided to remove Helens pass then they are perfectly entitled to do that (not that I think they should) but anything is fair game as long as the public aren't being deceitfully led into spending money.

[erinp5]

So what's the point of nominations ever taking place again ,BB can changed them because they have it in the rules.
Why not take it the whole way and whoever is evicted by the public on Friday ...BB change it and kick out who they want..oh wait

[LukeB]

they can do twist! but they gotta tell us what there planning

[Josy]

So what's the point of nominations ever taking place again ,BB can changed them because they have it in the rules.
Why not take it the whole way and whoever is evicted by the public on Friday ...BB change it and kick out who they want..oh wait

Well they can't do that obviously because the public spend money voting, unless they do what they done last week and have the housemates do it.

[Josy]

they can do twist! but they gotta tell us what there planning

Why though? :laugh:

[Creggle]

Silly question but did you have to pay to vote for the power HM this week?

[Josy]

Those rules are for the housemates, and I think tricking the voting public is taking it a bit to far but whatever.

They are always carrying out twists without the public knowing in advance, just because this one involved someone people like doesn't mean it was a trick, it was a twist just the same as all the others this series..

[Josy]

Silly question but did you have to pay to vote for the power HM this week?

No it was a free vote on the app.

[LukeB]

Why though? :laugh:

well i mean not twist during the week

but they have to tell us if there going to do a twist friday, as voting public we have the right to know whats going to happen, normal eviction or some twist that would pee off people

[Creggle]

No it was a free vote on the app.

Ah, in which case you're right and it's fair game, they only need to let the public know what is going on if it's their hard earned.

Still distasteful how they can put who they want into the firing line.

[Yaki da]

Ah Josy... Always defending these charlatans.

BB Spy looks like it's had enough. So TIBB will be the last fansite standing. That's nice.

[Yaki da]

They are always carrying out twists without the public knowing in advance, just because this one involved someone people like doesn't mean it was a trick, it was a twist just the same as all the others this series..

What they don't like is that they were told repeatedly something other than the truth. They were told it on the show, they were told on BOTS and they were told it in the press releases. Even Emma and Rylan are tweeting of their shock.

Tell me, if they just send in a producer and have him take one of the HMs by the collar and march that person out whilst saying "You're evicted", will you still be here defending the show?

[Miranda123]

So if Big Brother decide they want to give Ashleigh immunity, then change their mind because they can change the rules at anytime, the same applies to Helen's immunity?
Or has there been an amendment to the rule and it's now
Big Brother can change the rules at anytime when it involves certain housemates

Those sour grapes will give you wind!

HELEN OR ASH TO WIN!

[Miranda123]

What they don't like is that they were told repeatedly something other than the truth. They were told it on the show, they were told on BOTS and they were told it in the press releases. Even Emma and Rylan are tweeting of their shock.

Tell me, if they just send in a producer and have him take one of the HMs by the collar and march that person out whilst saying "You're evicted", will you still be here defending the show?

Only if it was *******igh or Mark...............lol

[Yaki da]

No the rules always been the same.

Ashleigh wasn't the only power housemate btw.

Last nights twist had nothing to do with Helen but if they decided to remove Helens pass then they are perfectly entitled to do that (not that I think they should) but anything is fair game as long as the public aren't being deceitfully led into spending money.

But deceiving the public without costing them money is fair game. They're getting ever closer to the money part it seems to me.

[Josy]

Ah Josy... Always defending these charlatans.

BB Spy looks like it's had enough. So TIBB will be the last fansite standing. That's nice.

What they don't like is that they were told repeatedly something other than the truth. They were told it on the show, they were told on BOTS and they were told it in the press releases. Even Emma and Rylan are tweeting of their shock.

Tell me, if they just send in a producer and have him take one of the HMs by the collar and march that person out whilst saying "You're evicted", will you still be here defending the show?

Not defending them as much as being bored of all the fix claims from people when things don't go in favour of their favourites.

Where was all the fix claims when Ashleigh was given the power housemate role after a 'what if' poll on an app that not all of the public has access to or even knows about, there was no official announcement about this 'what if' vote on the highlights, or bots as far as I know. Where was the fix claims then?

[Miranda123]

Ah Josy... Always defending these charlatans.

BB Spy looks like it's had enough. So TIBB will be the last fansite standing. That's nice.

BB Spy is going down the drain cause they bar people from saying the most innocuous things. Its not a site for mary Poppins fans, and as long as racism isnt used and people are not calling other forum users names, they should leave it be, but they dont, which is why all the people I used to see on BB Spy are now on here

digital Spy as a whole is dead to me!

[Yaki da]

Not defending them as much as being bored of all the fix claims from people when things don't go in favour of their favourites.

Where was all the fix claims when Ashleigh was given the power housemate role after a 'what if' poll on an app that not all of the public has access to or even knows about, there was no official announcement about this 'what if' vote on the highlights, or bots as far as I know. Where was the fix claims then?

Well, people did still vote Josy...

[Miranda123]

Well, people did vote Josy...

yes but just people from this forum, which makes it about 50 people???

[Josy]

Well, people did vote Josy...

Yes a free vote on a poll that wasn't available to all that watch the show, what's your point?

[abhorson]

Looks like most have forgotten the MOST IMPORTANT RULE OF BB

14) THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE OF ALL: Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time.

This rule has been widely known as the most important rule of all since day 1 series 1.

So they can do whatever they want, make any decisions and changes they want as long as they don't deceitfully have the public spending money in a vote then ANYTHING is fair game.

They never have a twist that every single fan of the show will be happy with, people only enjoy the twists if it favours a housemate they like which is obvious, but to shout that everything's a big fix the minute it goes against your housemate is pointless, the twist that affected your favourite might be crap, it might be unfair and so on but it isn't a 'FIX'.

Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time. Big Brother’s decision is final.

Let's hope this stops the whinging.

[Miranda123]

Yes a free vote on a poll that wasn't available to all that watch the show, what's your point?

when its free, any idiot can vote, when it cost money, it is only people with jobs that vote, or very stupid people without jobs who spend their dole money on voting for a reality tv show

[Nedusa]

Looks like most have forgotten the MOST IMPORTANT RULE OF BB

14) THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE OF ALL: Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time.

This rule has been widely known as the most important rule of all since day 1 series 1.

So they can do whatever they want, make any decisions and changes they want as long as they don't deceitfully have the public spending money in a vote then ANYTHING is fair game.

They never have a twist that every single fan of the show will be happy with, people only enjoy the twists if it favours a housemate they like which is obvious, but to shout that everything's a big fix the minute it goes against your housemate is pointless, the twist that affected your favourite might be crap, it might be unfair and so on but it isn't a 'FIX'.

Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time. Big Brother’s decision is final.

Nice soundbite............but NO unworkable in reality.

It's a gameshow and it MUST have some rules or what's the point, it would be total anarchy, a complete farce.

Especially when the public is told WHO GOES........YOU DECIDE and then we find eh...well actually NO you only decide when it suits us.

So whilst I acknowledge this BB can change the rules at any time..the reality is there are some rules that must apply to keep the main structure of the show intact. ie HM nominate and the public decides who goes (VTS or VTE) it's the publics decision not an ex HM or HM Friends and Family or any other stupid ill contrived last minute fix to ensure ratings stay high.

The result of tampering with ALL of the rules is what you now see before you, and it is the reason this show is losing it's core longtime viewers. We cannot bear to watch this show descend into the absolute meaningless farce that it sadly has become.

I would gamble this will be the last non Celeb BB as the viewers have had enough of being lied to and conned out of their hard earned cash.

So here we are in this latest series where absolutely anyone can win or be evicted at a moments notice, regardless of how they are playing the game.

A complete and utter travesty of the programme BB that has given me so much entertainment over the years.

The sooner it ends the better.......



WHO WINS........quite frankly I don't give a Dam.:shrug::shrug:




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[Achilles]

Well they can't do that obviously because the public spend money voting, unless they do what they done last week and have the housemates do it.

Last week they stated on Monday that the 3 newbies would decide which original housemate got evicted. On Friday AFTER phone lines had been open and public voting all week, they changed it so that the 2 surviving newbies would make the decision. Do you think that is fair on the public?
If they do that again this week and at the start of Friday's show Emma says there will be a twist and the housemate with most votes will not be evicted, but the final decision will be made in the house between the 2 housemates with most public votes, do you think that is fair?

[Kizzy]

That's just a cop out that means BB can manipulate the series regardless of the 'YOU DECIDE' mantra.

[Cherie]

No it was a free vote on the app.

I really dont know ehy anyone who has Ashleigh as their fave vould vote her as the PHM

[Miranda123]

Last week they stated on Monday that the 3 newbies would decide which original housemate got evicted. On Friday AFTER phone lines had been open and public voting all week, they changed it so that the 2 surviving newbies would make the decision. Do you think that is fair on the public?
If they do that again this week and at the start of Friday's show Emma says there will be a twist and the housemate with most votes will not be evicted, but the final decision will be made in the house between the 2 housemates with most public votes, do you think that is fair?

I dont care who goes this Friday, though I think it should be *******igh, so it really doesnt matter

obviously if this change went in favour of the boring bastards, then Id be pissed off but as long as Helen & Ash are okay, I dont give a flying f..k!

[MarcusMel]

With no rules then you can lie to the public to gain money under false advertiseing.

So one of the BB rules should be to always tell the public the truth and what is going to happen.

[Yaki da]

Yes a free vote on a poll that wasn't available to all that watch the show, what's your point?

The point is that they asked people to vote, and some took the time to do it, they were then repeatedly lied to about what they voted for afterwards. Lied to on the show, lied to on BOTS and lied to in the press releases. Rylan is shocked. Emma is shocked.

And you're still here playing the contrarian.

Does all of this not strike you as bizarre in the extreme? And the fact it all came about after the Save Ashleigh campaign and the petition to stop the removal of the public vote from the eviction process?

You keep asking people to prove something dodgy is going on and ask for motive, as if we're in a court of law here. But I can't understand how a fan of the show on a fansite can time and time again defend this utter mess of a show.

Every complaint they have this year, they seem to respond by doing something that is even more of a slap in the face to the viewers. There was a complaint about taking the public vote out of an eviction, so what did they do next? They did it again! Having done this, they know full well it led to a further breakdown in trust between the viewers and the show, and so what have they done now? They've blatantly lied to the viewers of the show.

Nevermind Ashleigh more often than not being involved in some way, have you ever seen such a complete and utter mess of a television show?

[Josy]

Last week they stated on Monday that the 3 newbies would decide which original housemate got evicted. On Friday AFTER phone lines had been open and public voting all week, they changed it so that the 2 surviving newbies would make the decision. Do you think that is fair on the public?
If they do that again this week and at the start of Friday's show Emma says there will be a twist and the housemate with most votes will not be evicted, but the final decision will be made in the house between the 2 housemates with most public votes, do you think that is fair?

The three newbies did decide who would go but Pav and Zoe changed it at the last minute once Bianca had left.

What was unfair on the public about that?

I really dont know ehy anyone who has Ashleigh as their fave vould vote her as the PHM

People on her who like Ashleigh voted her as PH on that app iirc.

[Cherie]

That's just a cop out that means BB can manipulate the series regardless of the 'YOU DECIDE' mantra.

Basically it comes down to who is going to create the most revenue, with Zoe, Pav, Steven and Ash up most voters would have gone for Steven, throwing a marmite housemate like Ashleigh into the mix means more votes will be cast.

[Yaki da]

The three newbies did decide who would go but Pav and Zoe changed it at the last minute once Bianca had left.

What was unfair on the public about that?

The fact they had no say in an eviction at all to begin with. After having already complained and launched a petition about the first one with Marlon.

[Cherie]

The three newbies did decide who would go but Pav and Zoe changed it at the last minute once Bianca had left.

What was unfair on the public about that?



People on her who like Ashleigh voted her as PH on that app iirc.

Yes Josy i know that, my point being in the main having the power is not a good thing in the main

[Josy]

The fact they had no say in an eviction at all to begin with. After having already complained and launched a petition about the first one with Marlon.

That's a completely different point to what I was discussing with Achilles though.

It was annoying that the public never had a say on those evictions yes but why should they change things because some sign a petition?

They have said about the Power Twist all along, the housemates will have more power than ever before, that covers their backs for those twists.

The last part of my OP answers that question anyway, Big Brothers decision is final.

[Josy]

Yes Josy i know that, my point being in the main having the power is not a good thing in the main

Oh right yeah, I agree with that and definitely wouldn't vote for one of my favourite housemates to get it because it never ends well.

[Josy]

The point is that they asked people to vote, and some took the time to do it, they were then repeatedly lied to about what they voted for afterwards. Lied to on the show, lied to on BOTS and lied to in the press releases. Rylan is shocked. Emma is shocked.

And you're still here playing the contrarian.

Does all of this not strike you as bizarre in the extreme? And the fact it all came about after the Save Ashleigh campaign and the petition to stop the removal of the public vote from the eviction process?

You keep asking people to prove something dodgy is going on and ask for motive, as if we're in a court of law here. But I can't understand how a fan of the show on a fansite can time and time again defend this utter mess of a show.

Every complaint they have this year, they seem to respond by doing something that is even more of a slap in the face to the viewers. There was a complaint about taking the public vote out of an eviction, so what did they do next? They did it again! Having done this, they know full well it led to a further breakdown in trust between the viewers and the show, and so what have they done now? They've blatantly lied to the viewers of the show.

Nevermind Ashleigh more often than not being involved in some way, have you ever seen such a complete and utter mess of a television show?

They never even said that whoever was voted on that app would be the housemate, they said 'if the power returns'

And I already answered your questions about whether I think it's dodgy and my answer remains the same, NO it's all part of the Power Trip twist.

The fact is if Helens Pass had been revoked last night or another twist that never affected any of your or the people complainings faves then you all wouldn't be moaning about fixes right now. Not that theres anything wrong with being annoyed at twists that negatively affect your favourite housemate but that doesn't make it a fix, just a twist that you don't like.

[Johnnyuk123]

They never have a twist that every single fan of the show will be happy with, people only enjoy the twists if it favours a housemate they like which is obvious, but to shout that everything's a big fix the minute it goes against your housemate is pointless, the twist that affected your favourite might be crap, it might be unfair and so on but it isn't a 'FIX'.



I don't have a fave housemate and I'm still shouting it's a fix!

[Josy]

They never have a twist that every single fan of the show will be happy with, people only enjoy the twists if it favours a housemate they like which is obvious, but to shout that everything's a big fix the minute it goes against your housemate is pointless, the twist that affected your favourite might be crap, it might be unfair and so on but it isn't a 'FIX'.



I don't have a fave housemate and I'm still shouting it's a fix!

You tend to complain about every detail of the show anyway Johnny so that doesn't surprise me in the slightest :laugh:

[Johnnyuk123]

You tend to complain about every detail of the show anyway Johnny so that doesn't surprise me in the slightest :laugh:

There's nowt wrong with complaining. :laugh:

[Josy]

:laugh:

[Yaki da]

They never even said that whoever was voted on that app would be the housemate, they said 'if the power returns'

Yes, I know that. But they said repeatedly afterwards that they would be immune. They said it on the show, they said it on BOTS and they said it in the press releases. I can't recall them lying to the viewer like that very often. And people did vote on it thinking that it might mean something.

And I already answered your questions about whether I think it's dodgy and my answer remains the same, NO it's all part of the Power Trip twist.

No, it's all great isn't it. The presenters are now acting shocked at what's going on, and every other forum and fansite is fed up.

The fact is if Helens Pass had been revoked last night or another twist that never affected any of your or the people complainings faves then you all wouldn't be moaning about fixes right now. Not that theres anything wrong with being annoyed at twists that negatively affect your favourite housemate but that doesn't make it a fix, just a twist that you don't like.

I couldn't have cared less about Marlon, but I was against the removal of the public vote. The producers may as well have walked in and led him out on that Monday. As for Helen and her free pass, that was a bad idea from the start and that would have gone for anyone. But it has indeed been made all the more repugnant by the nature of the person.

What people are fed up with is being lied to by the production team. And you can see from the reaction of the presenters of the show that even they are now wondering what on earth is going on. But you persist in thinking nothing of it :shrug:

[Johnnyuk123]

Last years show i really enjoyed. BB did great!
But this years show is a right mess and that's down to the constant meddling from BB.:laugh:

[Josy]

Yes, I know that. But they said repeatedly afterwards that they would be immune. They said it on the show, they said it on BOTS and they said it in the press releases. I can't recall them lying to the viewer like that very often.



No, it's all great isn't it. The presenters are now acting shocked at what's going on, and every other forum and fansite is fed up. But you're still here acting like everything that has gone on in the last couple of weeks is above board.



I couldn't have cared less about Marlon, but I was against the removal of the public vote. The producers may as well have walked in and led him out on that Monday. As for Helen and her free pass, that was bad idea from the start and that would have gone for anyone.

What people are fed up with is being lied to by the production team. And you can see from the reaction of the presenters of the show that even they are now wondering what on earth is going on. But you persist in thinking nothing of it :shrug:

No it isn't great, the twists are too much, there's too much interfering with nominations, there's too much power being removed from the public.

I don't persist in thinking nothing of it and wish it was back to basics ad the way the show should be but I don't agree with the fix claims.

As for Emma and Rylan well maybe they expect too much being presenters? Davina never always knew what the twists would be as far as I remember.

[Fendertele]

Looks like most have forgotten the MOST IMPORTANT RULE OF BB

14) THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE OF ALL: Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time.

This rule has been widely known as the most important rule of all since day 1 series 1.

So they can do whatever they want, make any decisions and changes they want as long as they don't deceitfully have the public spending money in a vote then ANYTHING is fair game.

They never have a twist that every single fan of the show will be happy with, people only enjoy the twists if it favours a housemate they like which is obvious, but to shout that everything's a big fix the minute it goes against your housemate is pointless, the twist that affected your favourite might be crap, it might be unfair and so on but it isn't a 'FIX'.

Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time. Big Brother’s decision is final.

That's OK as long as it's a level playing field for ALL House-Mates.....But as in life a rule for one, a different rule for another....

[Ammi]

..I think the most important rule of all and the only rule is that programmes only exist/continue and thrive with viewers/fans so that audience is something that always has to be kept ‘onside’ ..I don’t believe in any ‘FIX’ theories btw, if Ashleigh goes then she goes, I’ve never had an out and out favourite this year..it is though obviously slanted and manipulated so that we see what they want us to of housemates which has always been the way since live feed ended but with some of the released vid titles this year and how OTT they’ve been, I do think that the dislike of housemates is being ‘hyped’/encouraged more... so these reactions are probably exactly what they want and maybe it’ll work out for them with all the discussion created by the twists and people will continue watching future series but it is a bit ‘risky’ and maybe in the end the final twist will be on them (BB)... in that they’ll lose their audience...I don’t know whether the FIX thing just exists on forums because I’m just going by what fans are saying on forums, here and DS etc or if it’s something that is a big thing on social sites as well but it could be very damaging to BB ....because with any TV programme, the real power is always with the public...

[Achilles]

The three newbies did decide who would go but Pav and Zoe changed it at the last minute once Bianca had left.

What was unfair on the public about that?



You have Kimberly, Ashleigh and Danielle. They were the 3 housemates the newbies had put on the shortlist. They finally decided on Kimberly and Ashleigh was 2nd choice.
So, on the day of the eviction Kimberly walks from the house, that leaves Ashleigh as the newbie choice of who will be evicted.
Danielle is the only other option.
Of the 3 newbies, Biannca was the one who hated Danielle the most. If you change it so that the decision is made AFTER Biannca is evicted there is an even greater chance that Ashleigh is chosen because the main Danielle hater is no longer part of the equation.
Ashleigh was going to be evicted. Then at the last minute Zoe and Pav had a change of heart. So Danielle was evicted.
If you cannot see the manipulation that is right in front of your eyes you need to pay Marlon a visit :tongue:

[Yaki da]

No it isn't great, the twists are too much, there's too much interfering with nominations, there's too much power being removed from the public.

I don't persist in thinking nothing of it and wish it was back to basics ad the way the show should be but I don't agree with the fix claims.

As for Emma and Rylan well maybe they expect too much being presenters? Davina never always knew what the twists would be as far as I remember.

You don't think Marlon was penciled in for eviction on Monday then? You don't think they knew exactly who would be up and out by just deciding the person with the most nominations would be evicted?

That looks like pretty blatant rigging of the show to me. And if they did that then, they will do it every time if they so wish. And they'll definitely feel they can do it when people keep defending them.

[Josy]

You have Kimberly, Ashleigh and Danielle. They were the 3 housemates the newbies had put on the shortlist. They finally decided on Kimberly and Ashleigh was 2nd choice.
So, on the day of the eviction Kimberly walks from the house, that leaves Ashleigh as the newbie choice of who will be evicted.
Danielle is the only other option.
Of the 3 newbies, Biannca was the one who hated Danielle the most. If you change it so that the decision is made AFTER Biannca is evicted there is an even greater chance that Ashleigh is chosen because the main Danielle hater is no longer part of the equation.
Ashleigh was going to be evicted. Then at the last minute Zoe and Pav had a change of heart. So Danielle was evicted.
If you cannot see the manipulation that is right in front of your eyes you need to pay Marlon a visit :tongue:

So basically you are still saying that every twists, decision and so on is set up to get Ashleigh out of the house?

No Im sorry I disagree with that and have posted lots of times why, I'm not going back round in circles about it again.

This thread was about the rules and twists in general not one specific housemate.

You don't think Marlon was penciled in for eviction on Monday then? You don't think they knew exactly who would be up and out by just deciding the person with the most nominations would be evicted?

That looks like pretty blatant rigging of the show to me. And if they did that then, they will do it every time if they so wish. And they'll definitely feel they can do it when people keep defending them.

Marlon would have been up and out regardless though, so would you be saying he was pencilled in for eviction had the public voted him normally because that's what was happening?

[CaudleHalbard]

I'm fascinated to know why people think BB gjves a tuppenny damn about who goes or stays.

If they wanted to please the public they would have git rid of Helen ages ago.

[Yaki da]

Marlon would have been up and out regardless though

Anything could have happened in that time. They did that "twist" knowing full well he was going to get the most noms.


so would you be saying he was pencilled in for eviction had the public voted him normally because that's what was happening?

We don't know that he definitely would have been voted out. Some people were feeling sorry for him.

[Yaki da]

I'm fascinated to know why people think BB gjves a tuppenny damn about who goes or stays.

If they wanted to please the public they would have git rid of Helen ages ago.

You don't think they care about Helen being there for as long as possible then?

[BigSister]

I completely agree with what Josy is saying but that was in the days of old BB and not in ch5 BB when they seem to change the rules all the time and not just this things like talking about nominations not really being punished anymore for fights etc being told things about the outside world etc etc. I don't mind one or two change of things but it seems to be every week

[Achilles]

So basically you are still saying that every twists, decision and so on is set up to get Ashleigh out of the house?

No Im sorry I disagree with that and have posted lots of times why, I'm not going back round in circles about it again.


http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258590

Have you read this thread I made? That explains it all. The reason is because the producer/s hate Ashleigh. Exactly the same as you, me and all the rest of public have housemates they love and hate.
Do you think it is fair that producers can be biased like the public?
If what I described in my thread does happen would you change your opinion?

[Josy]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258590

Have you read this thread I made? That explains it all. The reason is because the producer/s hate Ashleigh. Exactly the same as you, me and all the rest of public have housemates they love and hate.
Do you think it is fair that producers can be biased like the public?
If what I described in my thread does happen would you change your opinion?

No sorry, the first line states

IF YOU ARE AN ASHLEIGH FAN YOU NEED TO READ THIS

So I never bothered because there's about a 90% chance that it's claiming that the producers are fixing every detail of the show to get Ashleigh out.

[Me. I Am Salman]

i literally have no idea how anyone can defend this, regardless of whether it saves their faves or not

[puzzled]

Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time. Big Brother’s decision is final.

Just because you could do something, doesn't mean you should. From now on, who's going to believe anything BB says? Now the HMs know that their DRs aren't confidential, and outside information can be brought out any time, and they and we know that nothing BB says can be believed. Whatever miniscule bit of integrity BB might have had is shot.

[Me. I Am Salman]

exactly

[andybigbro]

Looks like most have forgotten the MOST IMPORTANT RULE OF BB

14) THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE OF ALL: Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time.

This rule has been widely known as the most important rule of all since day 1 series 1.

So they can do whatever they want, make any decisions and changes they want as long as they don't deceitfully have the public spending money in a vote then ANYTHING is fair game.

They never have a twist that every single fan of the show will be happy with, people only enjoy the twists if it favours a housemate they like which is obvious, but to shout that everything's a big fix the minute it goes against your housemate is pointless, the twist that affected your favourite might be crap, it might be unfair and so on but it isn't a 'FIX'.

Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time. Big Brother’s decision is final.

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:worship::worship:

[Shaun]

It's not a rule, though, is it? It's a long-winded way of saying "we're talking out of our arse"

[Me. I Am Salman]

:clap1::clap1:

:worship::worship:

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[Bluerang1]

dumb rule

[Apple202]

well the rule's stupid so obviously we're going to disagree with it anyway

[KeanO]

This power theme doesn't make sense, I thought the whole point was that the PHM would have power to do as they please... Instead they end up getting sh*t on by BB every time... It seems more like Secret's and Lies to me?? .... I think BB have no plans and are making it up day to day, they recycled this twist from when Matthew and Toya had the power.

[user104658]

If course they have the right to do whatever they want. However, that doesnt mean that what theyre doing isnt completely boring and stupid. It doesn't mean that fans and viewers have to accept it, like it, or not wish that they'd go back to how it was when it was less manipulated.