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Cal.
27-07-2014, 12:33 AM
...Compared to January's Celebrity Big Brother success and last summer's 'Secrets and Lies' success, why has Power Trip failed? They did everything they could, did a new theme, got a beautiful house and diary room, so why has this series failed? Ultimately housemates, lack of live feed, or is the theme not very good?

CaudleHalbard
27-07-2014, 12:40 AM
Has it failed?

Cal.
27-07-2014, 12:41 AM
Has it failed?

Well ratings have sunk again and its being regarded as worse than Big Brother 4.

LaLaLand
27-07-2014, 12:41 AM
I don't think it's failed.

"Worse than BB4" AS IF. Literally nothing happened, they even swapped housemates half way around the world and it was still stagnant.

This has had everything - fights, shocks, sex, drama etc etc...

MB.
27-07-2014, 12:41 AM
I don't think it's being regarded as worse than BB4, except by those who seem to detest everything Channel 5 ever produce

Lwize
27-07-2014, 12:43 AM
Taking away the public's ability to remove a bully has soured this series.

Hopefully, BB doesn't use the pass to the final ploy next year.

Macie Lightfoot
27-07-2014, 12:43 AM
It's definitely a bottom tier series with 2/4/10/12 but certainly isn't worse than 12 (which is literal garbage.) h/o let me find my post about why this season is so bad thx to a certain Helen Wood and post it here.

CaudleHalbard
27-07-2014, 12:44 AM
Taking away the public's ability to remove a bully has soured this series.

Hopefully, BB doesn't use the pass to the final ploy next year.
That was a very bad move, I agree.

Macie Lightfoot
27-07-2014, 12:44 AM
I will admit that I might be able to appreciate Helen ironically if she didn't have her pass. Like, she would've gone in, been extremely belligerent in ways we couldn't believe, be evicted around the same time as Pauline, get booed and OFF OFF OFF chants and feces through her letterbox with "THIS IS FROM JALE" attached, the whole nine yards. She's not a real human being, she's supposed to be a short term character who doesn't actually have any impact on the series or house dynamics or anything.

Unfortunately, Helen still has her pass to the final (despite the fact that the producers don't care to dismember literally every other twist this series) and we're stuck with her for much longer than anyone would've bargained for. She's reigning over the house like a tyrant, expecting everyone to ingratiate themselves with her and her clique of dickish boys and that's not fun for me to watch at all.

Helen is the core of the power structure in there and it's really sickening. Your social standing in the house is directly related to your relationship with Helen. You either have to get in with her clique (which Jale and Kimberly resorted to eventually) if you wanna have an ostensibly good time, or you'll just have to wander around by yourself with the other nonconformers. Now this is getting into more of The Ashleigh Thing, but she realized that she can't do **** to Helen so she's resorted to taking out her followers like she should (an Ash eviction, which is long overdo, would completely throw Helen off her rocker.) Helen can simply just clash with Ashleigh and encourage her entourage to nominate her and that's how she'll deal with it (and that's how she has been dealing with it.)

Everything's just incredibly static with Helen's stranglehold over the house. She's here until the end (as far as we know) and nothing can be done about it. And worst of all she's been BORING lately ("boring" in the sense that she's not shrieking in people's faces about being ALWAYS IN THE RIGHT ALWAYS IN THE RIGHT ALWAYS IN THE RIGHT ALWAYS IN THE RIGHT) so I don't get why a small vocal minority is still attached to her for being A Big Character. She's ****ing Aaryn Gries at this point, an objectionably awful person for the first 3-4 weeks and then boring afterwards. Those are the worst kinds of people.

here it is.

Cal.
27-07-2014, 12:45 AM
I don't think it's failed.

"Worse than BB4" AS IF. Literally nothing happened, they even swapped housemates half way around the world and it was still stagnant.

This has had everything - fights, shocks, sex, drama etc etc...

I thought this a week ago but now I'd practically give up trying to defend it. We've had a lot of drama, twists, sex for the first time in years and shock eviction results/exits (Tamara and Jale surprisingly going even when up against series villains and Biannca bearing her tits as she left) but unfortunately the ratings haven't reflected this.

Rob!
27-07-2014, 12:49 AM
Taking away the public's ability to remove a bully has soured this series.

Hopefully, BB doesn't use the pass to the final ploy next year.

They didn't really do that intentionally though did they. When she received that pass all the way back on day 2 people were saying "Helen seems nice."

This series hasn't failed - it's not like the ratings have absolutely collapsed. It's been up against a lot of competition this year and has still done fairly well. The World Cup handicapped it from the start because a show like Big Brother isn't the type of programme you can start watching half way through.
Yes then producers have made some weird descicions but the show does have to throw curveballs sometimes. The bed sit in BB5 was a curve ball, as was twisted evil BB. Some things work, somethings don't - but if the producers don't experiment then we get a show that gets stagnant VERY quickly. BB has been on for 15 years. That wouldn't have happened without experimentation.
I've really enjoyed this series - and the people that are complaining but still have favourites that they will fight for to the death is a sign that people still love the show.

RockBottom
27-07-2014, 12:54 AM
Well ratings have sunk again and its being regarded as worse than Big Brother 4.

Don't speak for everyone love :nono:

pcro
27-07-2014, 01:45 AM
Hmmm . . . are you quite sure it is literal garbage:spin:



It's definitely a bottom tier series with 2/4/10/12 but certainly isn't worse than 12 (which is literal garbage.) h/o let me find my post about why this season is so bad thx to a certain Helen Wood and post it here.

vixenk99
27-07-2014, 01:54 AM
I've only watched a few of the past series but I don't see this season as being a fail. It's annoying at times when it seems to be so manipulated, but as a whole, I'm enjoying it.

iRyan
27-07-2014, 01:57 AM
I don't think it's failed or been as bad as some people are making it out to be. Its not as good as BB13 or BB14, but it's only marginally worse than BB14 in my opinion and still miles better than BB12. It hasn't been an awful series by any means, but it never lived up to its true potential either. It's very middle of the road. Things definitely would be different had it not been for Helen's pass because without a shadow of a doubt she has reigned over this entire series to an extent no other housemate has ever done before. It'd be a COMPLETELY different series without her I think.

Honestly, I can't say I've truly been bored yet. And there has been some great and memorable moments along the way.

Marsh.
27-07-2014, 02:54 AM
Because it's a negative series full to the brim of negativity (which I wouldn't blame on Helen like some would but BB's incessant stirring).

The constant need for false drama, contrived arguments.

Just a waste of a series. I've missed the last 3/4 episodes other than the eviction and I don't care to catch up on them. Roll on the final and let's forget all about it.

mrflibble
27-07-2014, 02:57 AM
Reasons why it's failed:
1. Helen
2. Too many twists and manipulations that make no sense

Mystic Mock
27-07-2014, 02:59 AM
Having twist after twist after twist after twist doesn't help, and a lot of the decent Housemates going earlier on.

duclos
27-07-2014, 04:13 AM
I've loved it

JTM45
27-07-2014, 04:53 AM
I'd say it's definitely failed!
BB has been pretty un-remarkable since C5 have been butchering it but this Series has just been such an all-time low, a total flop!!!!
I've never been less excited about a BB series while it's still running.:sleep:

There's quite a few reasons but as far as i'm concerned the most notable are;

Apart from 3 or 4 great housemates the rest were awful, awful choices!

Giving someone a pass straight to the final withing 24 hours of them entering the house! Terrible decision, and a blatant and ridiculous manipulation! I have absolutely NO DOUBT that the pass was invented for Helen and there was never a chance of anyone other than her getting the pass! Ridiculous in the extreme!

It's not a new one but this year has been particularly bad for betraying housemates private conversations in the DR or playing back/relaying housemates conversations within the house. Just a cheap way to create drama because they're incapable of creating drama through good production of the show!

And another not new thing but one that's been awful this year is the favouring of certain housemates over others and vice-versa (giving certain housemates negative edits in an attempt to damage their popularity within the house and with the public resulting in them either being nominated or evicted, depending on the timing!).

Incredibly poor and forgettable tasks! Back in the day the Tasks were amazing but since C5 have had the show they just put no effort into them whatsoever! Shameful, really!!!!

There's many more things i could mention but those i've listed have been the real Series Killers for me. If it carries on like this i can see C5 dropping it and i don't know if anyone else will pick it up sadly!:shrug:

Jords
27-07-2014, 04:56 AM
I don't think it's failed.

"Worse than BB4" AS IF. Literally nothing happened, they even swapped housemates half way around the world and it was still stagnant.

This has had everything - fights, shocks, sex, drama etc etc...

get all that on a night out

ive grown bored of it

Ammi
27-07-2014, 05:55 AM
..if it has failed in terms of viewing audience then I wouldn't under estimate the World Cup and the loss of viewers at the beginning which is then more difficult to catch up half way through..but with the series itself, for me..it's just been that the balance of negativity/happy times and more chilled times hasn't been reached or even close to been reached...I think we all know that the housemates must have some fun times as well and probably quite a few so we've needed to see more of them and see them less as one dimensional characters...

BigBrotherfan4ever
27-07-2014, 06:51 AM
I've not liked this series much at all, & I think it's down to the HM's that were pick for this series, don't find many of them very likeable, so much so can't wait to this series is over, & CBB starts.

abhorson
27-07-2014, 08:27 AM
BB need to stir it up again. Too much loving and civility going on.

karezza
27-07-2014, 08:28 AM
1. Giving Helen a final pass.
2. Selecting Ashleigh & Chris as housemates.

Northern Monkey
27-07-2014, 08:58 AM
I think it's just all the BB manipulation to be honest.Twists to keep certain house mates in or evict others instead of just letting things play out.This series has totally stopped me voting as the producers can just edit peoples weeks how they want to get people evicted.No live feed means they can literally control everything we see.I mean Helen getting 15 warnings and still in there is ridiculous,People used to be kicked out with much less.Unfortunatley the show has gradually turned from being a gameshow/social experiment into this TOWIEesque scripted drama show we have now.The public are being spoonfed stories that C5 want to create.Also the days of the average joe off the street going in are long gone,Now we get these people who either have connections to other reality TV contestants or are on the cusp of some kind of minor fame already.I think this is why people don't bother with the show anymore,It's all too contrived.

waterhog
27-07-2014, 09:15 AM
...Compared to January's Celebrity Big Brother success and last summer's 'Secrets and Lies' success, why has Power Trip failed? They did everything they could, did a new theme, got a beautiful house and diary room, so why has this series failed? Ultimately housemates, lack of live feed, or is the theme not very good?

don't no what you are watching - this series has been fantastic.

Jay.
27-07-2014, 09:21 AM
I've actually quite liked it. It's obvious, at least to me, that they've tried something different this year, but for some that wasn't enough. They've made the series a lot more like a game show, like Helen's pass to the final, Mark winning £5000 and the whole power aspect. I think it's a really original idea and it's the first time that it's been an actual 'game show'. But obviously some people don't see that. I don't think that the housemates have been that bad either, for the first time in a channel 5 big brother there's not one single housemate that I dislike and I don't mind who wins really, compared to the previous ones where I couldn't care less (excluding bb14 - Gina & Dexter)

I'm a fan of the twists too, it's only a tv show and some people get too wound up in all of it. I don't complain about it much, because to me it has been quite entertaining. Sure there have been parts where I've been half-watching it, but that's happened to me with every big brother, sometimes it can be boring.

So yeah, I don't think it's failed, the ratings are only down a little bit, but that's not what the producers really care about, because it's more about the demographic etc. and there is not need to compare it to previous series because they've tried to do something original with the format and I think it's really paid off, I've liked it and from what I've read from this thread, not many people here think it's failed either.

Raph
27-07-2014, 09:23 AM
Because it's a negative series full to the brim of negativity (which I wouldn't blame on Helen like some would but BB's incessant stirring).

The constant need for false drama, contrived arguments.

Just a waste of a series. I've missed the last 3/4 episodes other than the eviction and I don't care to catch up on them. Roll on the final and let's forget all about it.

This 100%. I think ultimately it comes down to how unlikeable and plain the housemates are this year. They pretty much all have no personality and come from a showbiz background. So given how unlikeable and dull the housemates are, no matter what they do - sex, arguments, bitching - whatever, it won't elicit any genuine interest in the viewers.

If a dull mean person had sex at school, you wouldn't really care either, because you have no feelings towards this person. This series has also been so manipulated by the producers. One of the very best, and fundamental aspects of the show is nominations and the fact that we've only had 2 sets of real nominations in however many weeks is a joke.

I haven't watched in over a week now because it's been such a disappointing series. Roll on BB16 (hopefully).

joeysteele
27-07-2014, 09:32 AM
For me at best an only 'fair' set of housemates, not enough variation as to them and also the lack of continuity and freedom enough to develop storylines or get to see the real people they maybe are.

The worst thing however that has really destroyed this series from the outset,is the interference of BB and manipulation of noms and evictions by them.
The power trip has bene done to overkill, so much it has stifled any flow or relevance to the housemates and the series.

For me this is the worst series ever of BB and one I have watched only casually for the last 2 weeks now,I also have yet to finish a full show of bbbots and I was one who not only watched the original highlights of previous BB series but also avidly watched repeats of them too.
This series, I simply cannot wait to see the back of and in the main near all the housemates that were in it too.

BB really need to buck their ideas up next time and also restore the noms process too, at least to more of what they used to be.
Or,for me, I likely wouldn't watch another series with the interference and the tried manipulation of results from BB that this one has had.

Achilles
27-07-2014, 09:36 AM
Big Brother: Secrets and Lies
Big Brother: Power Trip

How about for next year, we have

Big Brother: Old School

Normal people, live feed and all the rest.

There is more chance of BB ratings increasing by returning to a proven format that appeals to the general public. The reason the ratings have steadily declined over the past decade is because the housemates have become more and more outrageous and cartoon like. The majority of viewers were hooked on the Old School BBs because NORMAL PEOPLE ARE MORE INTERESTING, they are 3-D human beings and not 2-D cartoon characters.

They can try another gimmick next season, but with no live feed and cartoon characters instead of normal people, they will just get the same old flat ratings. No amount of twists and turns and showmance bollocks can change that. The only thing to improve ratings is by changing the format back to the original format, the successful format.

joeysteele
27-07-2014, 09:46 AM
Big Brother: Secrets and Lies
Big Brother: Power Trip

How about for next year, we have

Big Brother: Old School

Normal people, live feed and all the rest.

There is more chance of BB ratings increasing by returning to a proven format that appeals to the general public. The reason the ratings have steadily declined over the past decade is because the housemates have become more and more outrageous and cartoon like. The majority of viewers were hooked on the Old School BBs because NORMAL PEOPLE ARE MORE INTERESTING, they are 3-D human beings and not 2-D cartoon characters.


They can try another gimmick next season, but with no live feed and cartoon characters instead of normal people, they will just get the same old flat ratings. No amount of twists and turns and showmance bollocks can change that. The only thing to improve ratings is by changing the format back to the original format, the successful format.


I would love to see that too Achilles, I agree totally with all you say.

mizzmee
27-07-2014, 09:52 AM
I think it's just all the BB manipulation to be honest.Twists to keep certain house mates in or evict others instead of just letting things play out.This series has totally stopped me voting as the producers can just edit peoples weeks how they want to get people evicted.No live feed means they can literally control everything we see.I mean Helen getting 15 warnings and still in there is ridiculous,People used to be kicked out with much less.Unfortunatley the show has gradually turned from being a gameshow/social experiment into this TOWIEesque scripted drama show we have now.The public are being spoonfed stories that C5 want to create.Also the days of the average joe off the street going in are long gone,Now we get these people who either have connections to other reality TV contestants or are on the cusp of some kind of minor fame already.I think this is why people don't bother with the show anymore,It's all too contrived.


I agree 100%. Clearly they want Helen to be the big star out of this, its the only reason they keep Ash safe. I will say there has been entertainment but it is unbalanced and unfair. This would not be an issue IF the show did not involve people spending their money to vote.
When the public are involved they deserve to see and know the truth and deserve to have their voice heard.

Pincho Paxton
27-07-2014, 11:11 AM
I think that most of the housemates ended up the same as each other. I think that variety is more entertaining. Danielle who was supposed to be the opposite of Helen ended up being like Helen. Ashleigh ended up like Helen. All of the women were the same apart from Zoe.

The guys with Helen were all the same.

Mark was funny, but had nobody to be funny with.

Chris was intelligent, but had nobody to have intelligent conversations with.


To fix this problem you need a variety of housemates, and when somebody successfully gets into the house they need to be paired with someone equal to them.

sampvt
27-07-2014, 11:51 AM
I don't think it has actually failed. It has been harder to watch because a big part of the show was taken away from us and that made us question the values of the show. A combination of too many gamers and too many bitches in there this year has made us question stuff we normally don't get. Its our inability to accept these changes that has ruined or made it infuriatingly hard to watch, but in essence, its the same show, different format, same boring result, a socially inept and otherwise deceptive tosser wins and we pay for the pleasure of watching them rip lumps out of eachother.

user104658
27-07-2014, 12:34 PM
..if it has failed in terms of viewing audience then I wouldn't under estimate the World Cup and the loss of viewers at the beginning which is then more difficult to catch up half way through..but with the series itself, for me..it's just been that the balance of negativity/happy times and more chilled times hasn't been reached or even close to been reached...I think we all know that the housemates must have some fun times as well and probably quite a few so we've needed to see more of them and see them less as one dimensional characters...

I agree with this - it's the good times and feeling like you're getting to know these people that make the shocking and dramatic parts shocking and dramatic. They've edited out anything positive in favour of arguments and feuds but, because we haven't got to see the people just being people, we dont CARE about their disputes, and so the twists, turns, shocks and even evictions are just boring and meaningless.

elliebrew
27-07-2014, 12:52 PM
Well ratings have sunk again and its being regarded as worse than Big Brother 4.

By who?

This has been its strongest series since BB9

Jake.
27-07-2014, 12:53 PM
By who?

This has been its strongest series since BB9

In no way has it.

elliebrew
27-07-2014, 12:55 PM
In no way has it.

Blatently has been. I have loved it

Vladimir
27-07-2014, 12:55 PM
I don't think it's failed at all.

Beastie
27-07-2014, 12:56 PM
Helen being given a pass. I know she has been entertainment but it would have been more of a "fun house" if she went in the first week.

No pass should be given next year.

Beastie
27-07-2014, 12:57 PM
I want more "funny" "witty" people who take the piss. I quite liked Matthew to be honest. We evict the wrong ones too early.

joeysteele
27-07-2014, 01:15 PM
The point is we can only give our own personal feelings as to has it failed.
I haven't been an avid World cup viewer so the world cup played no part as to watching or not watching BB with me, yet I,as a strong fan and supporter of BB, am sick to death of this series and the way it has been played out by BB.

On this thread also,are some people who have been avid fans of BB too and eagerly looked forward to the start of a new series.
They have become disillusioned and very disappointed to say the least the way this series has been planned.
For me I say again, it is the worst I have ever watched and many more like this will see me not bothered if it is on or not in the future.

So for me, in my opinion, it has failed and failed really badly too.

erinp5
27-07-2014, 01:17 PM
Helen

flamingGalah!
27-07-2014, 01:25 PM
This series has failed & the drop in viewers isn't to do with the World Cup/Wimbledon/Commonwealth Games, you only have to look on this & other forums & social media to see that many long term fans have switched off...

The reasons for this series being a flop include:

Filling the house with very unlikeable people

Filling the house with people found through agencies

Giving Helen the golden ticket on launch night

Constant manipulation

Hardly any normal nominations

Too many twists

I really hope they learn from this & if there is to be another civilian BB, that they go 'back to basics' & make it Big Brother again...

Redway
27-07-2014, 01:48 PM
By who?

This has been its strongest series since BB9

:laugh2:

Strictly Jake
27-07-2014, 01:49 PM
I have enjoyed it. I like every remaining housemate now apart from Pav. When the power trip thing is done correctly then I like it. The negative thing about it is bb putting twists in place to suit themselves. I still don't believe that Ashleigh will stay immune

BigBrotherfan4ever
27-07-2014, 02:59 PM
Big Brother: Secrets and Lies
Big Brother: Power Trip

How about for next year, we have

Big Brother: Old School

Normal people, live feed and all the rest.

There is more chance of BB ratings increasing by returning to a proven format that appeals to the general public. The reason the ratings have steadily declined over the past decade is because the housemates have become more and more outrageous and cartoon like. The majority of viewers were hooked on the Old School BBs because NORMAL PEOPLE ARE MORE INTERESTING, they are 3-D human beings and not 2-D cartoon characters.

They can try another gimmick next season, but with no live feed and cartoon characters instead of normal people, they will just get the same old flat ratings. No amount of twists and turns and showmance bollocks can change that. The only thing to improve ratings is by changing the format back to the original format, the successful format.this sounds great, would love a series like this again

JTM45
27-07-2014, 03:15 PM
2. Selection Ashleigh & Chris as housemates.

So you think two of this year's best, most intelligent, most interesting and most Loved Housemates were bad choices yet you don't mention Tamara, Toya or Kimberly, three of the worst housemates in years who could have been replaced by three filleted cod and the difference probably wouldn't have been noticed! :facepalm:
Actually Toya's cod stand-in would have been rumbled because people would have wondered how her skin was looking so great all of a sudden!:laugh:

I guess we just have to laugh and count our blessings that you weren't choosing the housemates this year! :worship::

LukeB
27-07-2014, 03:32 PM
to much unfair twist

mizzmee
27-07-2014, 03:56 PM
I want more "funny" "witty" people who take the piss. I quite liked Matthew to be honest. We evict the wrong ones too early.

This 100 percent! This is exactly BB's problem they keep trying to force drama and believe that all the public want to see is 'explosive' characters having arguments. They believe it's the only thing that earns headlines. Truth is, if they gave us fun and entertaining we would lap it up and enjoy it. If they gave us real average normal people who had ups and downs and tried have a laugh, I'd rather that show than this weird borderline scripted reality.
I honestly think if they could all relax in there and not have to walk on egg shells, Winston, Ash, Chris and probably few others would actually be funny.

Denver
27-07-2014, 04:04 PM
There playing it very clever by having the world cup and the commonwealth games with the hot weather they knew the ratings would be down so my best guess is dont try as hard with this series wait till CBB when everything is finished

andybigbro
27-07-2014, 05:57 PM
I don't think it's failed. It's still being talked about in magazines etc and with the new app, it's getting a lot of buzz on social media etc.

I think in terms of ratings, it's not fair to compare it to other years on channel 5 as this year we had the World Cup which hugely would have affected the ratings and now we have the commonwealth games. Both these sporting events are very popular. So it's not surprising the ratings have dropped.

The series is ok, it's not the best it is has no way failed.

Samm
27-07-2014, 05:59 PM
I don't think it's failed. It's still being talked about in magazines etc and with the new app, it's getting a lot of buzz on social media etc.

This it's only failed in the fans point of view

LukeB
27-07-2014, 06:00 PM
they should of made new idea's for power not just nominations

nim136
27-07-2014, 06:46 PM
My personal reason 4 switching off was the likes of Helen and Ash being safe week after week. Yet brilliant HMs like Toya and Matthew evicted early on.
Although this happened in BB13 we still had leading protagonists in Deana and the insiders. There is no one really likeable in there. Ashleigh and Chris are probably the most tolearble but even they seem 2 b crawling up Helens arse now.

chuff me dizzy
27-07-2014, 06:49 PM
I dont think its failed :conf: its been a good series

Bluerang1
27-07-2014, 06:51 PM
Vote to Evict

MojoNixon
27-07-2014, 06:56 PM
Well ratings have sunk again and its being regarded as worse than Big Brother 4.

Can we have official proof of that?

Alf
27-07-2014, 06:58 PM
It's failed to a lot of Big Brother fans because even though it calls itself Big Brother, it's not Big Brother at all.

chuff me dizzy
27-07-2014, 07:20 PM
Vote to Evict

Best way to vote, without it Pauline would still be there ,as would some of the other awful ones

Samm
27-07-2014, 07:21 PM
Vote to Save is wayyy better

Pincho Paxton
27-07-2014, 07:27 PM
Vote to evict and gunge is best!

LukeB
27-07-2014, 07:38 PM
Vote to Save is wayyy better

we could of had queen toya for much longer if it was VTS :flutter:

kelty
27-07-2014, 09:24 PM
Big Brother: Secrets and Lies
Big Brother: Power Trip

How about for next year, we have

Big Brother: Old School

Normal people, live feed and all the rest.

There is more chance of BB ratings increasing by returning to a proven format that appeals to the general public. The reason the ratings have steadily declined over the past decade is because the housemates have become more and more outrageous and cartoon like. The majority of viewers were hooked on the Old School BBs because NORMAL PEOPLE ARE MORE INTERESTING, they are 3-D human beings and not 2-D cartoon characters.

They can try another gimmick next season, but with no live feed and cartoon characters instead of normal people, they will just get the same old flat ratings. No amount of twists and turns and showmance bollocks can change that. The only thing to improve ratings is by changing the format back to the original format, the successful format.

how i would love to see a return of the old BB with normal people

jegmeister
27-07-2014, 11:16 PM
Well I have now given up watching the highlights shows during the week and only read this Forum and watch the eviction show. And that is a first for me in about 6 years.

The biggest problem has been the messing with nominations and lack of consistency. Even if there were friends and family or other methods of nomination (face to face), the actual final vote to evict has always rested with the public - until this series. Being given a free pass to the final is unquestionably the worst decision that the producers made. Even if it hadn't been someone as horrible as Helen that was chosen, the principle is just plain wrong.

And then twice in row the rule was broken again - the vote that the newbies had to vote out any housemate was beyond ridiculous. If they had chosen a fan's favourite, there would have been forum and twitter meltdown. We should always have the final power to vote out, no exceptions.

And then there is the lack of consistency. If you are going to show private diary room convos (and I have a lot of misgivings about it), you MUST be even handed. But this year BB has been anything but. Helen has got off incredibly lightly whereas Ashleigh has been constantly targeted. Very unfair.

And one other thing that pi**es me off. We always hear the likes of Rylan sneering "BB can change the rules at any time" - let's see how he would have liked it if in his series he was chosen to go by newbies and not the public. There have to be some basic rules - otherwise, why not just choose the winner on the first day.

If next year's BB is the same as this year, I won't watch it again either - it's simply too annoying and frustrating.

uniquedude
28-07-2014, 05:51 PM
The housemates

The producers can mess up a lot as long as the housemates are good but this years the housemates have been incredibly uninspiring, to have two iconic housemates as we had last year was quite lucky I guess this times just didn't work doesn't mean they've done anything wrong so to speak. It's not about drama, if we ain't connecting with the housemates they can have sex and arguments 24/7 and we'd still not be interested

BigSister
28-07-2014, 06:00 PM
I do think its because maybe they have tried to make it too serious and not showed the hmates having any fun or having a laugh and the tasks haven't been that good this year really. I do think the housemates haven't been as bad as people are saying but maybe next year they need to pick less not celebrities but on the cusp maybe of being celebrities

Razor
28-07-2014, 07:39 PM
The main issue BB has these days is most of the housemates are wannabes and aren't what you would call normal. Models, people that have already been on tv or press, entertainers etc... BB really needs to get back to its roots and pick normal people with a broad age group. Do this and I think BB will attract more viewers.

LukeB
28-07-2014, 07:46 PM
i love them to go back to 13 weeks of big brother

Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2014, 07:52 PM
It has not failed unless someone can show me the ad revenue powerpoint. It will fail in the fans eyes due to live feed, that is a basic no brainer. I have enjoyed it, watching the 2 shows at night with tibbers is great fun and then discussing it the next day.

Im just glad its on, i think you get out of it what you stick in in many ways. Roll on CBB.

LukeB
28-07-2014, 07:53 PM
they need to find normal people tbh

Babschap
28-07-2014, 09:50 PM
I think it's failed simply because BB mucked around with the format too much. We don't watch to see HMs given free passes etc. (well I don't) also the whole power thing has misfired, look how Pauline abused it.

ruiphillips
29-07-2014, 04:57 AM
Helen. And lack of Gina.

Macie Lightfoot
29-07-2014, 05:23 AM
i love them to go back to 13 weeks of big brother

Absolutely not that is wayyyyyyyyyy too long

HBB1508
29-07-2014, 09:39 AM
I've really not connected with this series at all, mainly due to there being too many reality TV savvy housemates who think they know what we want and fail. Too many twists that mess with nominations. Too much nastiness and too many arguments - there needs to be a balance of fun in the mix somewhere. No live feed so even now I don't really know who these people are. It also feels like it's scripted - too many coincidences of people talking about things happening on the outside that they couldn't possibly know about.

All in all for me not a great series, but then I'm a fan of the old school BB and I doubt it will ever go back to that sadly.