Winston and the Illuminati

[Daffodil]

:o Talking to Chris about the Illuminati! I am sure Chris said they were something do do with stone masons. I thought it was free masons... but I digress.....what a strange and rather surreal moment in the show!

[EGGY TV]

:o Talking to Chris about the Illuminati! I am sure Chris said they were something do do with stone masons. I thought it was free masons... but I digress.....what a strange and rather surreal moment in the show!

The whole show is masonic. The illuminati are very real, but most people think you're a nut job if you talk about it. I've been researching the "occult" for over 15 years, and this world is nothing like people have been conditioned to believe it is. Have a quick look at the image i've uploaded (just as an example). Its the UK's secret service MI5. Its a pyramid with the "all-seeing eye at the top - the same as what's on the American one dollar bill. The same power controls both.

If you're interested in it, then start looking into it further, and if you think i'm nuts then that's fine too!

[Daffodil]

The whole show is masonic. The illuminati are very real, but most people think you're a nut job if you talk about it. I've been researching the "occult" for over 15 years, and this world is nothing like people have been conditioned to believe it is. Have a quick look at the image i've uploaded (just as an example). Its the UK's secret service MI5. Its a pyramid with the "all-seeing eye at the top - the same as what's on the American one dollar bill. The same power controls both.

If you're interested in it, then start looking into it further, and if you think i'm nuts then that's fine too!

Yep, I am very interested. I have sat through hours of David Icke stuff on YouTube. Fascinating stuff.

[Northern Monkey]

I've watched some of this stuff on YT.Seems like alot of paranoia to be honest.

[Creggle]

When 99% of all the power and money in the world is held by 1% of the population, it isn't hard to see how people come up with theories like the Illuminati.

[abhorson]

The whole show is masonic. The illuminati are very real, but most people think you're a nut job if you talk about it. I've been researching the "occult" for over 15 years, and this world is nothing like people have been conditioned to believe it is. Have a quick look at the image i've uploaded (just as an example). Its the UK's secret service MI5. Its a pyramid with the "all-seeing eye at the top - the same as what's on the American one dollar bill. The same power controls both.

If you're interested in it, then start looking into it further, and if you think i'm nuts then that's fine too!

They are real alright.

[abhorson]

David Icke is stretching it a bit for me.

Son of god, PM is a green lizard!!

[Achilles]

I am not really interested in the conversation they had or anything about Illuminati. I am more interested in why they randomly decided to talk about it. We never know because the conversations always come out of nowhere. An upload will start and it's like "aaaaand action". Happened so often this series.

[Kizzy]

The PM is a lizard king!

[Kizzy]

It was flipping odd.... there was no quizzical look on chriss face, no 'oh what an odd question' he just launched into a full and frank explanation.
Welcome to conditioning....

[Pronshi]

The world is just an illusion.
The reality we experience is one built from the Lucifer experiment.
We have cut ourselves off from the unity of the cosmos.

I am sure we are breaking free. I hope anyway.
I agree with the second poster.
I would love more conspiracy and REAL spirituality chat on big brother not the random **** Jale and Wolfy brought up to try gain votes.

[EGGY TV]

The world is just an illusion.
The reality we experience is one built from the Lucifer experiment.
We have cut ourselves off from the unity of the cosmos.

I am sure we are breaking free. I hope anyway.
I agree with the second poster.
I would love more conspiracy and REAL spirituality chat on big brother not the random **** Jale and Wolfy brought up to try gain votes.


Well said! If people knew how deep the rabbit hole goes, they would choke on their cornflakes! We have been lied to about everything. We are slaves yet we don't know it, and live in a prison without bars.

Hopefully people are starting to wake up and open their eyes to what's really happening in the world. Its a slow process though, as we've been so brainwashed and indoctrinated.

[AEC]

The whole show is masonic. The illuminati are very real, but most people think you're a nut job if you talk about it. I've been researching the "occult" for over 15 years, and this world is nothing like people have been conditioned to believe it is. Have a quick look at the image i've uploaded (just as an example). Its the UK's secret service MI5. Its a pyramid with the "all-seeing eye at the top - the same as what's on the American one dollar bill. The same power controls both.

If you're interested in it, then start looking into it further, and if you think i'm nuts then that's fine too!

Illuminati Nonsense and Paranoia.2.

I explained the objective facts about the Illuminati on the Zoe-Illuminati Sign
Thread,OV:-
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7100321&highlight=#post7100321

I have a friend who is a so-called Christian,and who is so fanatical and paranoid about the Illuminati Conspiracy,that it is actually controlling and
wrecking his life!!!:spin::nono::sad:
He doesn't like The Beatles,Madonna,President Obama,and umpteen other
famous people and artists,including ABBA. He was a big fan of ABBA until
recently.But because he misguidedly thinks that they are involved in the
Illuminati,or some such franchise of them,he threw out all his ABBA collection!!! He thinks The Beatles,Madonna,and all them are also involved
in the Illuminati and/or devil worship!
He sees symbols of the devil-illuminati seemingly all over the place in numerous things - his latest news and information to me is that the letter
X is a symbol of the devil,and that he cannot wait to withdraw his membership of the Halifax Building Society! Why? Because the X features
in the Halifax trademark! HEAVEN HELP US!
He will not celebrate Christmas because he thinks it's pagan,and so on.
He could give you a lecture all day on the Illuminati and the next day,and the next day after that! I've told him that all this bonkers Illuminati claptrap
and mumbo-jumbo will drive him mad!,if he isn't careful.

I believe in the real GOD - not the man-made biblical god,because the so-called holy bible and its god have been proven to be false.The devil is man-made and false. Therefore,devil worshippers have no real power,because what they worship is false to start with! Christians have no
real power,because their religion is also false. The so-called Illuminati is,as I understand it,is based on devil worship,but since the devil is false,they too
have no real power. So,alright,members of the so-called Illuminati will
be rich and be in influential positions,but that is all the power that they have.
But,the Illuminati is generally just purely a paranoic conspiracy theory.
The Illuminati is supposed to be secret and hell-bent on world-domination,but if that was so,they would not use symbols and God knows
what else to signify the devil-Illuminati all over the place - they would
actually keep things and their plans secret!
My friend takes things far too seriously,and the average person in the street
objectively and rightly dismisses this Illuminati nonsense for what it is:-
A bonkers conspiracy theory.
As for David Icke,this very misguided man's nonsense is even more bonkers and misguided than the Illuminati conspiracy theory!
By the way,the letter X is a favourite letter of mine:cheer2:

AEC

[Pronshi]

Well said! If people knew how deep the rabbit hole goes, they would choke on their cornflakes! We have been lied to about everything. We are slaves yet we don't know it, and live in a prison without bars.

Hopefully people are starting to wake up and open their eyes to what's really happening in the world. Its a slow process though, as we've been so brainwashed and indoctrinated.

Had a chat with my mum earlier, and my younger sister overheard.
She is 16 and a bit of a bitch but its crazy how much she actually knew and thought too. She brought up chemtrails and all which shocked me.

[EGGY TV]

Illuminati Nonsense and Paranoia.2.

I explained the objective facts about the Illuminati on the Zoe-Illuminati Sign
Thread,OV:-
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7100321&highlight=#post7100321

I have a friend who is a so-called Christian,and who is so fanatical and paranoid about the Illuminati Conspiracy,that it is actually controlling and
wrecking his life!!!:spin::nono::sad:
He doesn't like The Beatles,Madonna,President Obama,and umpteen other
famous people and artists,including ABBA. He was a big fan of ABBA until
recently.But because he misguidedly thinks that they are involved in the
Illuminati,or some such franchise of them,he threw out all his ABBA collection!!! He thinks The Beatles,Madonna,and all them are also involved
in the Illuminati and/or devil worship!
He sees symbols of the devil-illuminati seemingly all over the place in numerous things - his latest news and information to me is that the letter
X is a symbol of the devil,and that he cannot wait to withdraw his membership of the Halifax Building Society! Why? Because the X features
in the Halifax trademark! HEAVEN HELP US!
He will not celebrate Christmas because he thinks it's pagan,and so on.
He could give you a lecture all day on the Illuminati and the next day,and the next day after that! I've told him that all this bonkers Illuminati claptrap
and mumbo-jumbo will drive him mad!,if he isn't careful.

I believe in the real GOD - not the man-made biblical god,because the so-called holy bible and its god have been proven to be false.The devil is man-made and false. Therefore,devil worshippers have no real power,because what they worship is false to start with! Christians have no
real power,because their religion is also false. The so-called Illuminati is,as I understand it,is based on devil worship,but since the devil is false,they too
have no real power. So,alright,members of the so-called Illuminati will
be rich and be in influential positions,but that is all the power that they have.
But,the Illuminati is generally just purely a paranoic conspiracy theory.
The Illuminati is supposed to be secret and hell-bent on world-domination,but if that was so,they would not use symbols and God knows
what else to signify the devil-Illuminati all over the place - they would
actually keep things and their plans secret!
My friend takes things far too seriously,and the average person in the street
objectively and rightly dismisses this Illuminati nonsense for what it is:-
A bonkers conspiracy theory.
As for David Icke,this very misguided man's nonsense is even more bonkers and misguided than the Illuminati conspiracy theory!
By the way,the letter X is a favourite letter of mine:cheer2:

AEC

Mate, you are completely and utterly clueless, and clearly far too lazy to do any substantial research! I've conversed with so many people like you online, and you all sound the same - brainwashed!. One day, you may wake up, but im not hopeful, as some people are just to dumb to think for themselves. You leave the thinking to the BBC and Sky News.

Can you go and pester someone else please, as you seem like a right weirdo to me. No offence.

[abhorson]

There is an oligarchy. Prince Philip for one. Never will i forget that Fiona Bruce interview.

[abhorson]

Anyways back to BB. Maybe Winston is not really as dim as he is portrayed or the game he is portraying.

[Northern Monkey]

Anyways back to BB. Maybe Winston is not really as dim as he is portrayed or the game he is portraying.

Maybe he's in the Illuminati......

[abhorson]

Maybe he's in the Illuminati......


:joker::joker:

Nah, he is not elite!!

[Northern Monkey]

:joker::joker:

Nah, he is not elite!!

That's what he wants you to think.....

[abhorson]

That's what he wants you to think.....


:joker::joker: Stop it.

[Heaven = Winner]

I'm surprised Winston could say the word let alone know what it means.

[abhorson]

I'm surprised Winston could say the word let alone know what it means.

He knew Mugabe:joker:

[AEC]

Mate, you are completely and utterly clueless, and clearly far too lazy to do any substantial research! I've conversed with so many people like you online, and you all sound the same - brainwashed!. One day, you may wake up, but im not hopeful, as some people are just to dumb to think for themselves. You leave the thinking to the BBC and Sky News.

Can you go and pester someone else please, as you seem like a right weirdo to me. No offence.

Illuminati Nonsense and Paranoia.3.

I've told you the OBJECTIVE FACTS.

AEC.

[EGGY TV]

Illuminati Nonsense and Paranoia.3.

I've told you the OBJECTIVE FACTS.

AEC.


If you had the faintest clue on what you were talking about, then you wouldn't mention devil-worshipping. Satan is actually an ancient representation of the planet Saturn, which is at the heart of today's society.

Go and educate yourself - you might just learn something.

[EGGY TV]

Had a chat with my mum earlier, and my younger sister overheard.
She is 16 and a bit of a bitch but its crazy how much she actually knew and thought too. She brought up chemtrails and all which shocked me.

Yeah, its scary stuff. Watch a documentary called "What on Earth Are They Spraying". Its superb and very well put together.

[Pronshi]

Yeah, its scary stuff. Watch a documentary called "What on Earth Are They Spraying". Its superb and very well put together.

I watched it. :joker:

[EGGY TV]

I watched it. :joker:

Cool! I have a facebook group called UKFM (UK Freedom Movement). Check us out, you're more than welcome to join.

Its just a group of people that have decided to start thinking for themselves, and have realized the world isn't how its portrayed on the mainstream media.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ukfreedommovement/

[Bedouin]

Nice to see a fairly open discussion without too many thralls deciding to fog the discussion with their emotional attachment to power structures.

Fact is, however, that this discussion doesn't really point in quite the right direction. The problem here is that people obsess over the occult and conspiratorial side of the political spectrum, without any way of truly knowing or verifying their claims. Furthermore, it is almost impossible to sway people with the 'argument from conspiracy'. It just triggers too many conditioned negative responses.

Have a try with looking at it all from a different angle, whoever's reading this:
I assume you would agree that using violence against somebody is wrong, yes? Ok in self defence, sure, but not in an offensive capacity.

Now, if someone were to come to your door or send you a letter and demand that you hand over a large sum of money to them or they will kidnap you and place you in a small cage-like room; and worse yet shoot you if you resist against them as intruders when they come to take you away... This would obviously be an egregious crime. Oh yeah, this same criminal syndicate also stole 12 years of your childhood for the purpose of propagandising you so that you approve of what they do. Oh. And they sent thousands of people to kill thousands-millions of other people in another part of the world... Which they used your stolen livelihood to fund.

Beginning to sound familiar?
Government is an institution which reserves the right to use force against its subjects and desecrate their property rights within a geographical area.

As some guy once said... "When your ideology is threatened by non violence, then there's something wrong with it."

To answer yes to the questions I asked and to recoil from the subsequent observations is to be hypocritical, and lack integrity. Nothing wrong with that per se, but it should be recognised.

Conspiracies are unnecessary because
1: They are impossible to prove
2: They hold too much stigma to help
3: All speculative groups and cults require the gun of the government, without which they are absolutely nothing and could not exist. The 'illuminati' if they exist are nothing more than psychopathic freeriders on the armoured saddle of the state. Take away that big stallion and all the spikey armour and all you're left with a bunch of pathetic frail old men with a weird hobby.

So, if you find conspiracies are leading you down a sort of never-ending rabbit hole and making you feel very hostile about the world and not sure what to believe, drop them and go for the logical arguments of philosophy. The morality we mostly base our lives around is the ultimate scientific expression of philosophy and some of the greatest thinkers the world over.

I believe in the real GOD - not the man-made biblical god,because the so-called holy bible and its god have been proven to be false.
You have very little 'right' to claim that everybody else here is wrong based on their lack of empirical evidence because you have just admitted that you believe in one of the least empirical mythologies ever fabricated.

[Sam:)]

Cool! I have a facebook group called UKFM (UK Freedom Movement). Check us out, you're more than welcome to join.

Its just a group of people that have decided to start thinking for themselves, and have realized the world isn't how its portrayed on the mainstream media.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ukfreedommovement/

I'm actually genuinely interested in an explanation of how the mainstream media tells people how to think. I do think certainly in America that the News Companys are swayed by which political sides they support but usually people choose which broadcaster to watch due to them sharing that opinion.

How does the media miss-portray the world? Is Gazza/Isreal and Ukraine/Russia made up? Im not asking this as a smart-arse question btw.

Anyway back on topic, No its not unusual that they're talking about it, its frequently discussed in real life by people and they have been in the 8 weeks so I'm sure they're actually struggling to find topics. Trust me if the Illuminati is true I really doubt they would bother with Winston of all people.

Btw I just remembered, when Mike Sorrentino did CBB a while back, his cover photo on his facebook profile changed to the eye and all the ******* started banging on about how this "mystical eye" is a sign of the Illuminati

[CaudleHalbard]

There is little doubt that the world is controlled by the few.

Some reckon the planet is basically controlled by about 30 or so families. You can use whatever label you want. Illuminati is as good as any, although they certainly don't call themselves that.

It's a convenient label. That's all. :)

[Bedouin]

There is a way of looking at it which I quite like:
> The media exists either through the funding of a: advertisers or b: the state.
> if a; the MSM will simply appeal to what it knows will get the most views, that is to say that it will be a platform for a generally mindless approach to the truth, one which is pro-coercion, pro government, dumbed-down, and keeps people in their emotionally comfortable armchairs. It may also align with special interest groups.
> if b; then there will obviously be a bias toward the government of that area.

If you want a blunt video that gets straight to the point, here is one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF5tAxAmC_M
I will warn, there is a very graphic image or two toward the end. I recommend not looking but listening for the last part.

There is little doubt that the world is controlled by the few.

Some reckon the planet is basically controlled by about 30 or so families. You can use whatever label you want. Illuminati is as good as any, although they certainly don't call themselves that.

It's a convenient label. That's all. :)

Yep, no need to do any 'reckoning' though whatsoever. It is patently clear that the world has been run by various states for thousands of years. The true evil's hidden in such plain sight it's painful when one realises they didn't see it before.

[lostalex]

When 99% of all the power and money in the world is held by 1% of the population, it isn't hard to see how people come up with theories like the Illuminati.

99% of the wealth is not held by 1% of the population. That was a lie told by Occupy morons with absolutely NO truth to it.

[Kizzy]

It will be shortly it's headed that way, we're on the road to an oligarchy.

[wormsinfested]

The funny thing is everything David Icke says is more likely the truth rather then any ****ed up man-made business model religion out there.:joker:

[the truth]

its an open conspiracy. nice to see the producers actually show a brief chat about something other than nominations and bitching. briefly reminded me of the glory days of big brother and UK in general when people actually had conversations