View Full Version : Helen Being horrible about Danielle
Cherie
28-07-2014, 10:55 AM
How can she say she has changed when she is insulting ex housemates :shrug: Ashleigh didn't defend Danielle either, Imo Ashleigh dominated Danielle not the other way around. Hooking up with Helen will be Ashleighs downfall I think
HBB1508
28-07-2014, 10:58 AM
I thought that was really nasty of Helen and maybe if Ashleigh hadn't been legless she may have said something - I would like to hope so anyway.
Achilles
28-07-2014, 11:01 AM
It wasn't just Helen though, they were all winding her up. Ashleigh was drunk and in jolly mood (BB didn't show that though). The others were making fun of how she speaks as well. It was just how each group decided to have a little fun with drunk Ashleigh. Don't think any of them had any real malice behind what they saying.
rusticgal
28-07-2014, 11:02 AM
How can she say she has changed when she is insulting ex housemates :shrug: Ashleigh didn't defend Danielle either, Imo Ashleigh dominated Danielle not the other way around. Hooking up with Helen will be Ashleighs downfall I think
Don't you remember when Helen was slagging off Ashleigh to Danielle and Danielle just sat there and nodded... Danielle didn't defend Ashleigh...to be honest Danielle was a damp squid..always moaning. Ashleigh has been a much better happier person since she went and that's why I think she is more popular.
As for Helen...she will never change. Insulting people is all she is good at.
How can she say she has changed when she is insulting ex housemates :shrug: Ashleigh didn't defend Danielle either, Imo Ashleigh dominated Danielle not the other way around. Hooking up with Helen will be Ashleighs downfall I think
Ashleigh told Helen to "stop saying things like that"....
Ashleigh and Helen a hook up of connivance with Helen taking the lead.The target being Zoe.
RE Danielle I always felt some jealousy dictated her interactions with other female HMs and she has continued to show this since leaving.
Kizzy
28-07-2014, 11:05 AM
This got done to death yesterday cherie ..
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259173&highlight=
This got done to death yesterday cherie ..
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259173&highlight=
No, this was last night when Helen said does Daneille piss herself like an old woman too...
I thought that was really nasty of Helen and maybe if Ashleigh hadn't been legless she may have said something - I would like to hope so anyway.
Yes, they were having a laugh but Helen as usual throws in a nasty comment. Ashleigh was merry drunk but didn't you hear her say to Helen that she was going too far and to stop it?
Cherie
28-07-2014, 11:28 AM
No, this was last night when Helen said does Daneille piss herself like an old woman too...
Oh that was going on way past my bedtime thanks:hehe:
HBB1508
28-07-2014, 11:33 AM
Yes, they were having a laugh but Helen as usual throws in a nasty comment. Ashleigh was merry drunk but didn't you hear her say to Helen that she was going too far and to stop it?
Yes I did hear her say that but it was all in a very jokey way - I'd rather she had pointed out that Danni was her friend and they shouldn't speak about her like that but I think she was too drunk to get that far.
RockBottom
28-07-2014, 11:35 AM
How can she say she has changed when she is insulting ex housemates :shrug: Ashleigh didn't defend Danielle either, Imo Ashleigh dominated Danielle not the other way around. Hooking up with Helen will be Ashleighs downfall I think
Wow, getting a bit desperate are we.
Yes I did hear her say that but it was all in a very jokey way - I'd rather she had pointed out that Danni was her friend and they shouldn't speak about her like that but I think she was too drunk to get that far.
Yeah, she said it in such a way to make her point without spoiling the jolly mood they were all in. :love:
Cherie
28-07-2014, 11:47 AM
Wow, getting a bit desperate are we.
I don't know are you?
chuff me dizzy
28-07-2014, 12:50 PM
How can she say she has changed when she is insulting ex housemates :shrug: Ashleigh didn't defend Danielle either, Imo Ashleigh dominated Danielle not the other way around. Hooking up with Helen will be Ashleighs downfall I think
Yes I noticed how disloyal Ashleigh was ,Helen we expect no better, but Princess Barbi smiling while she attacked her only true friend in there
chuff me dizzy
28-07-2014, 12:52 PM
I thought that was really nasty of Helen and maybe if Ashleigh hadn't been legless she may have said something - I would like to hope so anyway.
Legless ? oh come on fgs :shocked:
Achilles
28-07-2014, 12:55 PM
Yes I noticed how disloyal Ashleigh was ,Helen we expect no better, but Princess Barbi smiling while she attacked her only true friend in there
Danielle was a friend to nobody in there, she was there to win. The conversation with Marlon proves that. Danielle lied to Ashleigh, so even if the CLAIM that Ashleigh appeared "disloyal" was true, why would it matter?
Chris has been better friend to Ashleigh.
chuff me dizzy
28-07-2014, 12:57 PM
Danielle was a friend to nobody in there, she was there to win. The conversation with Marlon proves that. Danielle lied to Ashleigh, so even if the CLAIM that Ashleigh appeared "disloyal" was true, why would it matter?
Chris has been better friend to Ashleigh.
And Ashlieghs not in there to win ? don't talk soft ,she's desperate to win
Miranda123
28-07-2014, 12:59 PM
How can she say she has changed when she is insulting ex housemates :shrug: Ashleigh didn't defend Danielle either, Imo Ashleigh dominated Danielle not the other way around. Hooking up with Helen will be Ashleighs downfall I think
Ashleigh didn't defend Danielle cause she didn't like her at all
She just used her cause she couldn't get in the cool gang, Danielle was stupid to think that Ashleigh was her friend and had she seen that a bit earlier, she could still be there
Ashleigh would throw her pushy mammy under a bus if it got her in with Helen & Ash, and her pushy mammy would probably be ok with that!
Miranda123
28-07-2014, 01:02 PM
Yes, they were having a laugh but Helen as usual throws in a nasty comment. Ashleigh was merry drunk but didn't you hear her say to Helen that she was going too far and to stop it?
Like Ashleigh could tell Helen what to do lolol
She didn't say anything cause she has wanted this position in the cool gang for so long, she won't risk losing it!
LukeB
28-07-2014, 01:03 PM
Like Ashleigh could tell Helen what to do lolol
She didn't say anything cause she has wanted this position in the cool gang for so long, she won't risk losing it!
ashleigh told helen not to say those things..
chuff me dizzy
28-07-2014, 01:04 PM
ashleigh told helen not to say those things..
While laughing
chuff me dizzy
28-07-2014, 01:04 PM
Like Ashleigh could tell Helen what to do lolol
She didn't say anything cause she has wanted this position in the cool gang for so long, she won't risk losing it!
:clap1:
Achilles
28-07-2014, 01:06 PM
And Ashlieghs not in there to win ? don't talk soft ,she's desperate to win
She is and so is every other housemate in there. I never said she didn't want to win.
joeysteele
28-07-2014, 02:02 PM
Ashleigh laughing her head off almost as Helen said it, then saying don't say that but laughing again at it as she did.
Helen has no reason at all to like Danielle,Danielle helped stitch her up in the power week as to Ash not being saved.
Whereas Ashleigh was supposed to be a really close friend of Danielle but really allowed any ridicule to pass with the weakest ever as to token gestures against it being said I have ever come across.
Danielle is not there any more so Ashleigh has no longer any need of her or it seems any respect either as to her.
chuff me dizzy
28-07-2014, 02:03 PM
Ashleigh laughing her head off almost as Helen said it, then saying don't say that but laughing again at it as she did.
Helen has no reason at all to like Danielle,Danielle helped stitch her up in the power week as to Ash not being saved.
Whereas Ashleigh was supposed to be a really close friend of Danielle but really allowed any ridicule to pass with the weakest ever as to token gestures against it being said I have ever come across.
Danielle is not there any more so Ashleigh has no longer any need of her or it seems any respect either as to her.
You're on top form today Joey ,excellent post :worship:
joeysteele
28-07-2014, 02:08 PM
You're on top form today Joey ,excellent post :worship:
:joker:Thanks Chuff, I am learning a bit from you, you are too as always.
chuff me dizzy
28-07-2014, 02:09 PM
:joker:Thanks Chuff, I am learning a bit from you, you are too as always.
What a fake,using little cow she is ? sat there smiling while Helen attacked her supposed best mate ?
Brother Leon
28-07-2014, 02:27 PM
It's true though. Danielle and Toya bought her down. Without them Ashleigh would win this easy.
daniel-lewis-1985
28-07-2014, 02:32 PM
She did actually stop Helen from going any further then Ash carried it on.
Danielle was holding her back, Helen was 100% right and Ashleigh probably knows it. Danielle should have gone in week 1. Misery loves company and she ruined a big chunk of Ashleighs time in the house.
Kazanne
28-07-2014, 02:35 PM
I thought that was really nasty of Helen and maybe if Ashleigh hadn't been legless she may have said something - I would like to hope so anyway.
Well they do say,people speak the truth when they are drunk,so maybe Ashleigh agreed:hehe:
Kazanne
28-07-2014, 02:40 PM
Ashleigh laughing her head off almost as Helen said it, then saying don't say that but laughing again at it as she did.
Helen has no reason at all to like Danielle,Danielle helped stitch her up in the power week as to Ash not being saved.
Whereas Ashleigh was supposed to be a really close friend of Danielle but really allowed any ridicule to pass with the weakest ever as to token gestures against it being said I have ever come across.
Danielle is not there any more so Ashleigh has no longer any need of her or it seems any respect either as to her.
Fantastic post Joey,it's not the first time Ashleigh has dissed Danielle either ,and Helen wasn't even in sight that time,some people are so forgetful
chuff me dizzy
28-07-2014, 02:41 PM
Fantastic post Joey,it's not the first time Ashleigh has dissed Danielle either ,and Helen wasn't even in sight that time,some people are so forgetful
:clap1:
Miranda123
28-07-2014, 02:41 PM
She did actually stop Helen from going any further then Ash carried it on.
Danielle was holding her back, Helen was 100% right and Ashleigh probably knows it. Danielle should have gone in week 1. Misery loves company and she ruined a big chunk of Ashleighs time in the house.
If Ashleigh had gone and Danielle stayed, Danielle would be having a great time now
She was kept prisoner by the dressing gown bitches!
Ashleigh even said she wanted to "kick the **** out of her" (Danielle) cause she had the audacity to talk to another HM, Kim.......
That little runt and her weaved sidekick totally destroyed Danielle's experience
HBB1508
28-07-2014, 02:46 PM
Legless ? oh come on fgs :shocked:
LOL Chuff that was rather tongue in cheek!!! I'm certainly no Ashleigh fan - she's a model and that is a tough bitchy job so I'm under no illusions with her.
chuff me dizzy
28-07-2014, 02:48 PM
LOL Chuff that was rather tongue in cheek!!! I'm certainly no Ashleigh fan - she's a model and that is a tough bitchy job so I'm under no illusions with her.
Its tickled me senseless the amount of people who claim she was pissed out of her head I thought you were one of them ,I apologise ,here grab some daffodils :flowers:
the truth
28-07-2014, 03:07 PM
shes horrific. ashleigh is blowing it now. winston looks fave now
HBB1508
28-07-2014, 03:16 PM
Its tickled me senseless the amount of people who claim she was pissed out of her head I thought you were one of them ,I apologise ,here grab some daffodils :flowers:
Thanks Chuff :hug:
Achilles
28-07-2014, 04:07 PM
Ashleigh laughing her head off almost as Helen said it, then saying don't say that but laughing again at it as she did.
Helen has no reason at all to like Danielle,Danielle helped stitch her up in the power week as to Ash not being saved.
Whereas Ashleigh was supposed to be a really close friend of Danielle but really allowed any ridicule to pass with the weakest ever as to token gestures against it being said I have ever come across.
Danielle is not there any more so Ashleigh has no longer any need of her or it seems any respect either as to her.
Why does Danielle deserve respect from anyone after Danielle lied to everyone in that house from day one? If Danielle was such a "friend" to Ashleigh, why was she not honest with her?
Ashleigh was drunk and in a jolly mood. All the other housemates were having fun with her and winding her up in different ways. Ash and Mark joking about how she talks and later Helen, Ash, Winston joking about Danielle.
The thread is titled Helen being horrible about Danielle, yet Ashleigh haters twist it round. :rolleyes:
MrWong
28-07-2014, 04:10 PM
How can she say she has changed when she is insulting ex housemates :shrug: Ashleigh didn't defend Danielle either, Imo Ashleigh dominated Danielle not the other way around. Hooking up with Helen will be Ashleighs downfall I think
A couple of weeks ago Danielle did the same to Ashleigh.
She just sat there while Helen slagged Ashleigh off.
My point, these people are fair weather friends.
Achilles
28-07-2014, 04:14 PM
A couple of weeks ago Danielle did the same to Ashleigh.
She just sat there while Helen slagged Ashleigh off.
Yep. Didn't see any bricks flying around like was promised.
How about when Helen and Ashleigh had their confrontation in the garden, where was Danielle?
:shrug:
Lostie!
28-07-2014, 04:18 PM
She did actually stop Helen from going any further then Ash carried it on.
Danielle was holding her back, Helen was 100% right and Ashleigh probably knows it. Danielle should have gone in week 1. Misery loves company and she ruined a big chunk of Ashleighs time in the house.
Is Ashleigh not her own person, can she not make her own choices? It's weak to blame Ashleigh's rift with certain housemates solely on Danielle.
MrWong
28-07-2014, 04:19 PM
Yep. Didn't see any bricks flying around like was promised.
How about when Helen and Ashleigh had their confrontation in the garden, where was Danielle?
:shrug:
Sat beside her, mute :D
Made funnier because she'd recently promised that Helen would have to get past her if she had anything nasty to say to Ashleigh.
Achilles
28-07-2014, 04:21 PM
Is Ashleigh not her own person, can she not make her own choices? It's weak to blame Ashleigh's rift with certain housemates solely on Danielle.
Any housemate is entitled to a rift with any other housemate and any housemate is also entitled to bury the hatchet with any housemate.
I don't care who the housemates I like are friends or not friends with.
I like Christopher but hate Mark. Should I hate Christopher because I hate Mark, or like Mark because I like Christopher?
Lostie!
28-07-2014, 04:23 PM
Yep. Didn't see any bricks flying around like was promised.
How about when Helen and Ashleigh had their confrontation in the garden, where was Danielle?
:shrug:
Sat beside her, mute :D
Made funnier because she'd recently promised that Helen would have to get past her if she had anything nasty to say to Ashleigh.
By this logic, where was Ashleigh during Danielle's clashes in the house? Helen called her a "fat bitch" in their first argument, nobody (including Ashleigh) spoke up. We can't pretend that Danielle keeping quiet in Ashleigh's arguments wasn't a two-way thing. There's a big difference between that and actually sitting there laughing as someone says cruel things about a friend.
Before any of Ashleigh's more OTT fans attack me, she's still my second favourite behind Christopher, but I feel she's being held to a different standard by some.
Lostie!
28-07-2014, 04:25 PM
Any housemate is entitled to a rift with any other housemate and any housemate is also entitled to bury the hatchet with any housemate.
I don't care who the housemates I like are friends or not friends with.
I like Christopher but hate Mark. Should I hate Christopher because I hate Mark, or like Mark because I like Christopher?
I'm not sure how this links to my post you quoted. I was just saying that Ashleigh's bad relationships with Helen and Ash weren't purely down to Danielle. She had her own views, she made her own choice to spend time with Danielle, etc.
chuff me dizzy
28-07-2014, 04:27 PM
I'm not sure how this links to my post you quoted. I was just saying that Ashleigh's bad relationships with Helen and Ash weren't purely down to Danielle. She had her own views, she made her own choice to spend time with Danielle, etc.
Everything is Danis fault, or anyone else's ,but not Ashleighs :nono:
Kazanne
28-07-2014, 04:29 PM
By this logic, where was Ashleigh during Danielle's clashes in the house? Helen called her a "fat bitch" in their first argument, nobody (including Ashleigh) spoke up. We can't pretend that Danielle keeping quiet in Ashleigh's arguments wasn't a two-way thing. There's a big difference between that and actually sitting there laughing as someone says cruel things about a friend.
Before any of Ashleigh's more OTT fans attack me, she's still my second favourite behind Christopher, but I feel she's being held to a different standard by some.
What a great post,someone who sees things as they are
MrWong
28-07-2014, 04:29 PM
By this logic, where was Ashleigh during Danielle's clashes in the house? Helen called her a "fat bitch" in their first argument, nobody (including Ashleigh) spoke up. We can't pretend that Danielle keeping quiet in Ashleigh's arguments wasn't a two-way thing. There's a big difference between that and actually sitting there laughing as someone says cruel things about a friend.
Before any of Ashleigh's more OTT fans attack me, she's still my second favourite behind Christopher, but I feel she's being held to a different standard by some.
Maybe you missed my post, my logic is this... They are fair weather friends.
I don't expect them to get in rows defending each other. The house friendships are never that deep.
Achilles
28-07-2014, 04:32 PM
Everything is Danis fault, or anyone else's ,but not Ashleighs :nono:
And from your perspective, everything is Ashleigh's fault and never the fault of anyone else :tongue:
rionablue
28-07-2014, 04:36 PM
They are both bitches but Ashleigh is the bigger one as Danielle stuck by her. It was Ashleigh was Danielles downfall as she didn't want her mingling with the rest of the house. Horrible girl
Cherie
28-07-2014, 04:58 PM
I'm not sure how this links to my post you quoted. I was just saying that Ashleigh's bad relationships with Helen and Ash weren't purely down to Danielle. She had her own views, she made her own choice to spend time with Danielle, etc.
My 3rd fave but like you i can see she is not snow white:laugh:
This thread is a great example of one about Helen once again saying something horrible about another HM (in this instance Danielle) but that is completely ignored and is diverted to another HM (in this instance Ashleigh) to take the bad look off her vileness. It happens time and time again. It only makes people despise Helen even more because some other poor HM is again taking undeserved flak for her nastiness.
There has been numerous threads about Helen's nastiness involving Chris, Danielle, Toya, Christopher, Matthew, Jale, Ashleigh. In them all, people have managed to find a diversion to take the blame off Helen.
It is quite interesting to see what twists people will come up with every time, and I wasn't disappointed here.
In this case it was Ashleigh, merry and with one drink too many, having a laugh. Helen said did Danielle piss herself like an old woman (a very nasty comment but as the mood was merry, I took it in the same spirit, but after reading all the Ashleigh exaggerations, why should I?) and Ashleigh, rather than spoil the happy mood they were all enjoying, laughingly told her she was going too far and to stop. Bear in mind this was the friend who she had found out had lied to her about her outside life just a day or two before she was evicted. They were both merry and having a laugh. End of.
The diversions are getting ridiculous. Really.
coffee
28-07-2014, 09:55 PM
I felt really uncomfortable watching them all sit in a circle laughing at Danielle and Ashleighs friendship. Ashleigh would have actually said how she really felt about Danielle if she wasn't drunk and I know Danielle will probably take it personal that she didn't defend her. Someone should have said something because Danielle is actually sweet she isn't a bad person she just reacted in bad ways but nowhere near as hideous as Helen did. I just think Helen is a bully and has the power to bring people into her evil circle very easily and it makes me sad for the world :'(
susie q
28-07-2014, 09:57 PM
Ashleigh told Helen to "stop saying things like that"....
I heard that to.
They are both bitches but Ashleigh is the bigger one as Danielle stuck by her. It was Ashleigh was Danielles downfall as she didn't want her mingling with the rest of the house. Horrible girl
:joker:
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