Zoe tells Chris he is not creepy ...Ashleigh agrees

[erinp5]

11.35pm: Zoe is telling Chris she doesn't think he's creepy around Ashleigh. Ashleigh agrees. So that's okay then.


Well Well Well

[erinp5]

Seems there is no problem then .:joker:

[Denver]

They are not exactly going to say he is

[Jordan.]

the fact it's become a topic in the house proves he is http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar81552_3.gif

[Heaven = Winner]

Zoe still being nice and kind.

But yeah, Chris is creepy.

[MojoNixon]

the fact it's become a topic in the house proves he is http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar81552_3.gif


:nono:

[erinp5]

They are not exactly going to say he is

Ashleigh and Chris are very close .Last alliance task she picked Chris because she can't hide anything from him (her words) so if she was lying I am sure he would know .
Ashleigh says he isn't so who the hell are we to say she doesn't know her own mind .

[Achilles]

11.35pm: Zoe is telling Chris she doesn't think he's creepy around Ashleigh. Ashleigh agrees. So that's okay then.


Well Well Well

Why were they having the conversation in the first place. They are stuck in the house, they don't know what the forums are all chattering about, right?

[Brother Leon]

Let's ask Pav in Private if Chris is then?

It's his actions regarding him that makes him creepy about Ashleigh.

[Miranda123]

the fact it's become a topic in the house proves he is http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar81552_3.gif

what you said

[*mazedsalv**]

It's the task result.

They added 4 more questions and one of them "who is the most creepy?" and I am guessing the public chose Chris and they have been told.

[LukeB]

save chris!

[erinp5]

the fact it's become a topic in the house proves he is http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar81552_3.gif

Task ,why do you think the creepiest category was in the poll .

[Achilles]

Maybe it's the viewers who are creepy.

[Cherie]

It's the task result.

They added 4 more questions and one of them "who is the most creepy?" and I am guessing the public chose Chris and they have been told.

Yes probably

[rusticgal]

Maybe it's the viewers who are creepy.



I think you could be right there...

I like Chris.. He has great admiration for Ashleigh in the strength she has shown and the dignified way she has handled situations in there.

[Northern Monkey]

Oh well,If Zoe says it,It must be true.

[Lex]

Maybe it's the viewers who are creepy.

Well..some of you yes!...but the rest of us know that Chris is CREEPY! :smug:

[Achilles]

Oh well,If Zoe says it,It must be true.

What if Ashleigh says it herself, like she has done? :shrug:

[erinp5]

Oh well,If Zoe says it,It must be true.

more importantly Ashleigh says it :dance:

[bots]

For the phrase creepy to have been used, it must have been implied or mentioned by someone in the house about Chris, thus the re-assurance was necessary. The reality is its probably more awkward than creepy.

[Achilles]

People can look at Chris and judge how he looks and think of him as creepy because of how he looks. Chris cannot help that he was born looking the way he does can he? So if people make that judgment on him, they assume the friendship between him and Ashleigh is creepy. If Ashleigh was one of those people who judged on looks, there would be no friendship would there?
Ashleigh has said herself she doesn't find Chris creepy.
The problem is with YOU THE VIEWER. Judging Chris on how he looks and calling him "creepy".
If he looked like Ash there would be no discussion whatsoever.

[bots]

People can look at Chris and judge how he looks and think of him as creepy because of how he looks. Chris cannot help that he was born looking the way he does can he? So if people make that judgment on him, they assume the friendship between him and Ashleigh is creepy. If Ashleigh was one of those people who judged on looks, there would be no friendship would there?
Ashleigh has said herself she doesn't find Chris creepy.
The problem is with YOU THE VIEWER. Judging Chris on how he looks and calling him "creepy".
If he looked like Ash there would be no discussion whatsoever.

Yes, i think creepy implies something sinister and its not, its awkward due to social skills etc. However, it doesn't excuse Chris trying to push that label on to Pav

[erinp5]

For the phrase creepy to have been used, it must have been implied or mentioned by someone in the house about Chris, thus the re-assurance was necessary. The reality is its probably more awkward than creepy.

or BB (having put extra questions on the poll one with the word creep ) have given the Hms the feedback.

[LukeB]

i'm so disappointed in chris giving peoples reasons to evict him

[rionablue]

I think he is extremely creepy and I too am very disappointed in him cos I liked him for the most of the series. I find watching him with Ashleigh really uncomfortable-

[LukeB]

why should the public even care, ashleigh is not saying anything

[erinp5]

Shame on BB ,some duty to care.

When it was "Girl power" week they heard Chris say he had such a bad year ,one were he didn't care if he woke up.

[LukeB]

are bb making chris bad to get him out?

[Bedouin]

Maybe it's the viewers who are creepy.

Yep.

[LukeB]

i really hope chris is saved

[smudgie]

Get the creep out.

[LukeB]

Get the creep out.

rather pav or zoe go tbh

[Bedouin]

Chris will be saved as long as people keep up the good work in creating threads that remind the viewers that Chris is not a bad guy (good job btw!), in fact he's pretty damn consistent and nice and it seems like they just need a scapegoat at the moment.

[Achilles]

Yes, i think creepy implies something sinister and its not, its awkward due to social skills etc. However, it doesn't excuse Chris trying to push that label on to Pav

The Chris and Pav dynamic is another issue. He has what the bitter ex housemates said in his head and the crowd reaction. So if he sees Pav looking at Ashleigh, he may think Pav is perving, because of what Danielle said. Pav said that he was "looking" because he found her interesting. That's very similar to the reason that Chris himself gave for HIM looking at her. The fascination of Ashleigh. Maybe BOTH of them think of Ashleigh in the same way. She is amazing, but it's not a sexual perving Jon Voight look. Difference is that Danielle the poisonous snake has put the idea that Pav IS perving into Chris' head so Chris is on the defensive and wanting to protect his friend but going about it the wrong way. If Zoe goes and Pav gets some cheers the whole house will feel much less wary of Pav and Chris won't have the poison of Danielle in his head.

[abhorson]

Chris will be saved as long as people keep up the good work in creating threads that remind the viewers that Chris is not a bad guy (good job btw!), in fact he's pretty damn consistent and nice and it seems like they just need a scapegoat at the moment.

I know what you mean. But 167 people on here won't make much difference. :laugh:

He will be fine imo. Housewifes love that cheeky chappie look. Although his chances of winning have probably gone. A finalist for sure.

[Marsh.]

He is a creep and his treatment of Pav is disgusting. The pig.

[KeanO]

Chris was in my top 3, but after recent events has moved down the list, although I would rather get rid of Zoe.

Pav should be saved as he's done nothing wrong so far.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

People can look at Chris and judge how he looks and think of him as creepy because of how he looks. Chris cannot help that he was born looking the way he does can he? So if people make that judgment on him, they assume the friendship between him and Ashleigh is creepy. If Ashleigh was one of those people who judged on looks, there would be no friendship would there?
Ashleigh has said herself she doesn't find Chris creepy.
The problem is with YOU THE VIEWER. Judging Chris on how he looks and calling him "creepy".
If he looked like Ash there would be no discussion whatsoever.

Exactly, 100% agree with you

[chuff me dizzy]

11.35pm: Zoe is telling Chris she doesn't think he's creepy around Ashleigh. Ashleigh agrees. So that's okay then.


Well Well Well

Hope this is shown on BOTS tonight ,sick of watching them slaughtering Chris, he's the only decent,honest one in there

[chuff me dizzy]

The Chris and Pav dynamic is another issue. He has what the bitter ex housemates said in his head and the crowd reaction. So if he sees Pav looking at Ashleigh, he may think Pav is perving, because of what Danielle said. Pav said that he was "looking" because he found her interesting. That's very similar to the reason that Chris himself gave for HIM looking at her. The fascination of Ashleigh. Maybe BOTH of them think of Ashleigh in the same way. She is amazing, but it's not a sexual perving Jon Voight look. Difference is that Danielle the poisonous snake has put the idea that Pav IS perving into Chris' head so Chris is on the defensive and wanting to protect his friend but going about it the wrong way. If Zoe goes and Pav gets some cheers the whole house will feel much less wary of Pav and Chris won't have the poison of Danielle in his head.

The ALL hate Pav,don't single Chris out ,and he's the only one out of them who has bothered to sit down and talk to him ,unlike everyone else who just blanks the poor swine

[Kazanne]

more importantly Ashleigh says it :dance:

Ashleigh would agree with anything if it makes her fit in.

[chuff me dizzy]

He is a creep and his treatment of Pav is disgusting. The pig.

At least Chris has sat and spoke to him ALL the others blank him, why are you singling Chris out ?

[MarcusMel]

Could 'creepy' be the same as socially awkward around people?

[mrflibble]

Could 'creepy' be the same as socially awkward around people?
Probably, I get called creepy sometimes because I'm quiet and socially awkward. I do tend to watch people, but it's not in a creepy way it's just in a 'trying to understand' or 'find you interesting to watch' way. I can't read people very well and I'm a bit paranoid so I tend to be suspicious of people and watch them to ensure they're being honest or whatever with me. I see a lot of these similarities with Chris as well.

[Livia]

Chris is not creepy. But hey, if that's all people have to throw at him it shows how desperate they are for something to criticise.

[erinp5]

Chris has been a great Hm often saying what I am thinking .What he said to Pav's face (something they all claim to do) was what he had been told by ex Hms. Chris has told Pav what other know and speak of behind his back .
BB have put the word creep out there and some have picked it up and ran with it ...hilarious.
I will not be surprised if this time next week Helen is being hailed as the next Mother Teresa

[chuff me dizzy]

Chris has been a great Hm often saying what I am thinking .What he said to Pav's face (something they all claim to do) was what he had been told by ex Hms. Chris has told Pav what other know and speak of behind his back .
BB have put the word creep out there and some have picked it up and ran with it ...hilarious.
I will not be surprised if this time next week Helen is being hailed as the next Mother Teresa

Bots started turning Helen into a victim weeks ago ,but the public are not fools, but even on here Chris is now called creepy ,why can't people think for themselves?

[erinp5]

Bots started turning Helen into a victim weeks ago ,but the public are not fools, but even on here Chris is now called creepy ,why can't people think for themselves?

No clue Chuff but gutted for Chris .
I do hope BB have kept the 'duty of care' rule and realise what Chris told us in the girl power task.
I would hate to have him go back to not caring if he woke up mind set.

[Achilles]

No clue Chuff but gutted for Chris .
I do hope BB have kept the 'duty of care' rule and realise what Chris told us in the girl power task.
I would hate to have him go back to not caring if he woke up mind set.

I am hoping Ashleigh can help save Chris through diary room chats and 1 on 1 chats with Chris. But then if she does, the question is "will BB show it?"

[erinp5]

I am hoping Ashleigh can help save Chris through diary room chats and 1 on 1 chats with Chris. But then if she does, the question is "will BB show it?"

Not a chance
Steven is on BBBOTS tonight and his mother has been spewing **** about Chris on her twitter, you would think she was an ex Hm .

[lostalex]

nobody would;d be saying he is creepy if he wasn't fat. just saying. the black guy that was evicted was way more creepy. kim had to deal with that creep.

[user104658]

I think he probably has a little platonic crush on Ashleigh but... So what? They're both adults, he knows she wouldn't be interested and he's not trying anything on.

No one would find it "creepy" if he looked like Ash. And really, if you think about it, that's quite sad.

It reminds me of an article I read a while ago surveying girls in clubs. Basically, the findings were that they get dressed up (or, rather, down) because they want to look attractive. If they see an attractive man looking at them, they are flattered / that's the intention... But if a short bald guy looks at them, he's sleazy / slimy / creepy and making them feel uncomfortable.

That's basically what's going on here. People see a guy who looks like Chris getting close to a girl who looks like Ashleigh, maybe with a bit of a crush on her, and the immediate reaction is "EW! YUCK! WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?? CRAWL BACK UNDER YOUR ROCK!!"

[Beso]

he's a twat.

[mrflibble]

I think he probably has a little platonic crush on Ashleigh but... So what? They're both adults, he knows she wouldn't be interested and he's not trying anything on.

No one would find it "creepy" if he looked like Ash. And really, if you think about it, that's quite sad.

It reminds me of an article I read a while ago surveying girls in clubs. Basically, the findings were that they get dressed up (or, rather, down) because they want to look attractive. If they see an attractive man looking at them, they are flattered / that's the intention... But if a short bald guy looks at them, he's sleazy / slimy / creepy and making them feel uncomfortable.

That's basically what's going on here. People see a guy who looks like Chris getting close to a girl who looks like Ashleigh, maybe with a bit of a crush on her, and the immediate reaction is "EW! YUCK! WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?? CRAWL BACK UNDER YOUR ROCK!!"
It's really sad. The way people are reacting is absolutely disgusting. She's an adult. He's an adult. She doesn't feel uncomfortable, who cares if YOU feel uncomfortable? And I do feel creeped out if an unattractive person is looking at me but not in a way that I think they're doing anything wrong. If they started harassing me then that's another story. Looking is harmless (and this goes for Pav too).

[Achilles]

The worst part of it in my opinion is that Ashleigh and Chris are such good friends in the house. All the people judging Chris on how he looks and how he an awkward person completely ignore the fact that Ashleigh herself thinks nothing like they do. She has not judged Chris has she? I think that shows a very nice quality of Ashleigh and their FRIENDSHIP is much more real than Kimberly and Steven's BS showmance. Not only does Ashleigh have no issue with their friendship, but Ashleigh's boyfriend doesn't either. He is the only one with the right to say anything as well.

[Marsh.]

At least Chris has sat and spoke to him ALL the others blank him, why are you singling Chris out ?

Because the thread topic concerns Chris, keep up chuff my love. :pat:

Talking about the others is called "off topic".

[Ruffle]

I do think Chris is an ok guy thy are friends and hav been since the start I do hope people leave them alone if Chris goes she will be in trouble next week I don't want to see that happen

[Ruffle]

Yep.

Good point you might just be right

[Dia]

Also Toya(link to tweet) (https://twitter.com/toya_w/status/493870631981944832), Matthew (https://twitter.com/MatthewDavies__/status/494254872741830656), and Danielle (https://twitter.com/CLASSICFOX/status/494244161546379265) have all said that Chris is protective over Ashleigh. These are people who consider Ashleigh a friend and are invested in her well-being. I think they would be the first to criticize Chris if they truly thought there's something weird going on

[Shaun]

ah because they were so rational when it came to Pav & Zoe

[bots]

Also Toya(link to tweet) (https://twitter.com/toya_w/status/493870631981944832), Matthew (https://twitter.com/MatthewDavies__/status/494254872741830656), and Danielle (https://twitter.com/CLASSICFOX/status/494244161546379265) have all said that Chris is protective over Ashleigh. These are people who consider Ashleigh a friend and are invested in her well-being. I think they would be the first to criticize Chris if they truly thought there's something weird going on

So trust worthy that they lied and told Ashleigh that Pav was a perv which is what has caused Chris to be in this position in the first place :whistle::fist:

[Achilles]

So trust worthy that they lied and told Ashleigh that Pav was a perv which is what has caused Chris to be in this position in the first place :whistle::fist:

Danielle said Pav was infatuated with Ashleigh, not the other 2. Danielle had reason to dislike the 2 newbies AND she never liked Chris. Remember how she acted like a snake and told the whole house about their private conversation?

[chuff me dizzy]

Because the thread topic concerns Chris, keep up chuff my love. :pat:

Talking about the others is called "off topic".

And what I rightly pointed out is Chris is not the only one with doubts about Pav, but he's the only one who said it to his face in a nice way they others have backstabbed and ignored him

[jscoo47]

save chris!

PLEASE!!

[Ruffle]

ah because they were so rational when it came to Pav & Zoe

I thought this post was about Chris at least Chris has sat and talked to pav that's more than most in the house have done Chris is a nice guy if he had not been up with pav it would have been whoever was up that would have reserved the negativity

[MojoNixon]

And what I rightly pointed out is Chris is not the only one with doubts about Pav, but he's the only one who said it to his face in a nice way they others have backstabbed and ignored him

Extremely well said! Chris haters just don't get that.

[erinp5]

Chris handled the questions well tonight ,the Hms agree he is not creepy around Ashleigh .Ashleigh does not think it and regarding Pav Chris took ownership of what was said and Pav himself agreed that Chris had been fair to him .

[Denver]

Chris handled the questions well tonight ,the Hms agree he is not creepy around Ashleigh .Ashleigh does not think it and regarding Pav Chris took ownership of what was said and Pav himself agreed that Chris had been fair to him .

You can tell a guilty person by there red face

[MojoNixon]

You can tell a guilty person by there red face

Adamski, please quit your pointless, nonsense propaganda. Ok we get it, you hate Chris. But do not lie.

[Marsh.]

And what I rightly pointed out is Chris is not the only one with doubts about Pav, but he's the only one who said it to his face in a nice way they others have backstabbed and ignored him

But this thread was about whether or not Chris is creepy. So whether you think someone else is worse is irrelevant to my post, which was agreeing that Chris is creepy.

That's not me saying no one else has done anything wrong, it's simply my opinion on Chris.

[jscoo47]

Stephen really put the knife into Chris on BBOTS tonight. Nasty piece of work.

I still like Chris and he was clearly mortified to think that he was perceived in that way.

[erinp5]

You can tell a guilty person by there red face

or they might have had to much sun .
OMG Ash's face was very red the other night ...what could he be guilty of..mmm,
You might be on to something ... Helen said hers face was red tonight!!!

[erinp5]

Stephen really put the knife into Chris on BBOTS tonight. Nasty piece of work.

I still like Chris and he was clearly mortified to think that he was perceived in that way.

Steven's twitter and his mothers is full of Chris hate, lynn calls Chris a creep and her son shagged on national telly and put a bottle up his arse.lol

[bots]

Steven's twitter and his mothers is full of Chris hate, lynn calls Chris a creep and her son shagged on national telly and put a bottle up his arse.lol

Too much information :yuk:

[Lex]

Steven's twitter and his mothers is full of Chris hate, lynn calls Chris a creep and her son shagged on national telly and put a bottle up his arse.lol


No that was Kinga erinp! :laugh:

[erinp5]

No that was Kinga erinp! :laugh:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-brother/391014/Lovesick-lad-sparks-new-sensation

[Marsh.]

Steven stuck a bottle up his arse? :eek:

[jet]

The worst part of it in my opinion is that Ashleigh and Chris are such good friends in the house. All the people judging Chris on how he looks and how he an awkward person completely ignore the fact that Ashleigh herself thinks nothing like they do. She has not judged Chris has she? I think that shows a very nice quality of Ashleigh and their FRIENDSHIP is much more real than Kimberly and Steven's BS showmance. Not only does Ashleigh have no issue with their friendship, but Ashleigh's boyfriend doesn't either. He is the only one with the right to say anything as well.

Well said Achilles!

[JayBlaze]

Yep Chris has turned into a full on creep and sleaze, going on about how ashleigh reminds him of his past gf's.

[Marsh.]

The worst part of it in my opinion is that Ashleigh and Chris are such good friends in the house. All the people judging Chris on how he looks and how he an awkward person completely ignore the fact that Ashleigh herself thinks nothing like they do. She has not judged Chris has she? I think that shows a very nice quality of Ashleigh and their FRIENDSHIP is much more real than Kimberly and Steven's BS showmance. Not only does Ashleigh have no issue with their friendship, but Ashleigh's boyfriend doesn't either. He is the only one with the right to say anything as well.

It also wasn't Chris's right to make Pav so uncomfortable concerning Ashleigh when it was Ashleigh's position to say something and apart from being creeped out by Danielle's bullish*t comments she hadn't said anything.

[mrflibble]

Why were people complaining about Chris not saying anything to Pav, but when he does - by discreetly pulling him to the side - they complain he had no right to?