Ashleigh: A Triumph!

[jet]

She's the top female HM :cheer2: who got there all on her own without having the protection of a free pass. That in itself is a triumph, and to me, she has already won, even if she doesn't get the sometimes dubious winners crown, which usually now goes to the inoffensive, victimized, stereotypical and lets face it, the overdone, well worn 'journey' Housemate :sleep:

She's one of a kind and the amount of interest she inspires in the many threads and posts about her is testament to how interesting, fascinating and divisive she is. And her age does come into it because the longer you have been on this planet, the more experience and knowledge you should gain. Whether you love her or hate her, you have to admit she is the only HM in the running to be possibly beaten by a pity party vote!

[Brother Leon]

It's funny because she gained a large number of her fanbase due to being "Victimized" and being on a "Journey as an 18 year old"

Carry on though...:laugh:

[Achilles]

It's funny because she gained a large number of her fanbase due to being "Victimized" and being on a "Journey as an 18 year old"

Carry on though...:laugh:

I don't care much for any of that. She was my winner after I saw this upload.

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My reaction to BB after seeing the upload was like Mark says "YOU'RE A LIAR"

If we had live feed we would have been able to see much more of this NORMAL chat between friends.

[Marsh.]

Yet without the free pass, Helen would've gone and so would Ashleigh as the boring pod-dweller would've been eviction fodder weeks ago. You may not like it but Ashleigh only became relevant BECAUSE of Helen.

:joker:

[jet]

It's funny because she gained a large number of her fanbase due to being "Victimized" and being on a "Journey as an 18 year old"

Carry on though...:laugh:

I have never once heard anyone say she is on a 'journey'. *shudder*

BB has given her the hardest time of anyone in the house, and she has never painted herself as a victim, spoken about how she was victimized, or in any other way bowed down to the stresses placed upon her. The fanbase may say it, but she herself hasn't indicated in any way that she was fazed by it or is capitalizing on it. I can only imagine the histrionics of some of the other HM's if they had to walk in her shoes. :shocked:

[Marsh.]

BB has given her the hardest time of anyone in the house, and she has never painted herself as a victim

:laugh2:

[MojoNixon]

It's funny because she gained a large number of her fanbase due to being "Victimized" and being on a "Journey as an 18 year old"

Carry on though...:laugh:

Laugh all you can, cheese ain't gonna take you any longer than you wish :)

[jet]

Yet without the free pass, Helen would've gone and so would Ashleigh as the boring pod-dweller would've been eviction fodder weeks ago. You may not like it but Ashleigh only became relevant BECAUSE of Helen.

:joker:

But saying that shows how close minded you are because without Helen we can't possibly know what the show, or the HM's would have been like without her nasty cloud hanging over them.

[jet]

:laugh2:


And you didn't even notice, did you? How unobservant and sad.

[Achilles]

Yet without the free pass, Helen would've gone and so would Ashleigh as the boring pod-dweller would've been eviction fodder weeks ago. You may not like it but Ashleigh only became relevant BECAUSE of Helen.

:joker:

I don't decide who I want to win from what BB choose to show me, but from what I manage to see for myself sifting through the rubble. The uploads this series have been much much better than the main highlights.
Next year, if they have another BB, I would prefer live feed, uploads and NO main highlights show, just a serious discussion show each night. Bit on the Side type show but with a mature audience instead of a retarded audience.

[Marsh.]

But saying that shows how close minded you are because without Helen we can't possibly know what the show, or the HM's would have been like without her nasty cloud hanging over them.

Yes we do, we saw it for the first 5 weeks. Ashleigh out of Helen's radar = pod dwelling mute.

[Marsh.]

I don't decide who I want to win from what BB choose to show me, but from what I manage to see for myself sifting through the rubble. The uploads this series have been much much better than the main highlights.
Next year, if they have another BB, I would prefer live feed, uploads and NO main highlights show, just a serious discussion show each night. Bit on the Side type show but with a mature audience instead of a retarded audience.

Not really sure what this has to do with my post.

But clips are also shown to you "from BB" in small chunks and most of them make up about 10-15 minutes of extra footage and tend to be tiny edited snippets of a larger situation.

No amount of "sifting through the rubble" makes a difference with the absence of live feed.

[Marsh.]

And you didn't even notice, did you? How unobservant and sad.

That she's had the hardest time? :laugh2: It hasn't happened.

[Lwize]

Ashleigh is this year's winner already.

And she's only 18! Did any of you know she's only 18? I can't believe she's only 18.

(Chris is probably wishing she was 28)

[sampvt]

She's the top female HM :cheer2: who got there all on her own without having the protection of a free pass. That in itself is a triumph, and to me, she has already won, even if she doesn't get the sometimes dubious winners crown, which usually now goes to the inoffensive, victimized, stereotypical and lets face it, the overdone, well worn 'journey' Housemate :sleep:

She's one of a kind and the amount of interest she inspires in the many threads and posts about her is testament to how interesting, fascinating and divisive she is. And her age does come into it because the longer you have been on this planet, the more experience and knowledge you should gain. Whether you love her or hate her, you have to admit she is the only HM in the running to be possibly beaten by a pity party vote!

OH FFS, not another Asheleigh hero worship thread. Cant you just use up the other ones first. Its blocking the site up. The sheer weight and volume of hatred against her must tell you she isn't going to win and Helen is the top girl even if she didnt have a pass. Your obsession is becoming both concerning and endearing at the same time.

[MrWong]

Congrats to Ashleigh :cheer2: Last girl standing!

Helen doesn't count obvs.

[Ellen]

Congrats to Ashleigh :cheer2: Last girl standing!

Helen doesn't count obvs.

Yes congrats to Ashleigh, last girl standing.

and you are right Helen doesnt count because she is not a girl so congrats to Helen, last woman standing. :dance:

[Beastie]

I like Ashleigh as a housemate and wouldn't mind her winning up to 125 grand. I think she would spend the money well. A nice start out to her life for her and her boyfriend.

But I think the ones all left would appreciate up to 125 grand. Or 130 in Mark's case.

[karezza]

It's a pity that she's odious and hateful.

[rusticgal]

OH FFS, not another Asheleigh hero worship thread. Cant you just use up the other ones first. Its blocking the site up. The sheer weight and volume of hatred against her must tell you she isn't going to win and Helen is the top girl even if she didnt have a pass. Your obsession is becoming both concerning and endearing at the same time.


There are more Ashleigh hate threads on here masterminded by the same people....

I just love the fact that people like to talk about her so much.

[abhorson]

There are more Ashleigh hate threads on here masterminded by the same people....

I just love the fact that people like to talk about her so much.

And she is still doing great on the 2nd fave poll. i can see only one winner now.

[sampvt]

And she is still doing great on the 2nd fave poll. i can see only one winner now.

I think she is going to win as well and I believe in fairies and Santa clause. When was the last bitch voted as a winner, please tell me, I cant seem to find one. She has more chance of knitting fog or platting sea mist than she has of winning this show. She is just plain nasty and being voted the most interesting HM was simply because people cant figure out how nasty she is but can be popular at the same time, hence interesting, not because she is loved.

[abhorson]

I think she is going to win as well and I believe in fairies and Santa clause. When was the last bitch voted as a winner, please tell me, I cant seem to find one. She has more chance of knitting fog or platting sea mist than she has of winning this show. She is just plain nasty and being voted the most interesting HM was simply because people cant figure out how nasty she is but can be popular at the same time, hence interesting, not because she is loved.

Does the oracle not see her victory:joker:

[Achilles]

I think she is going to win as well and I believe in fairies and Santa clause. When was the last bitch voted as a winner, please tell me, I cant seem to find one. She has more chance of knitting fog or platting sea mist than she has of winning this show. She is just plain nasty and being voted the most interesting HM was simply because people cant figure out how nasty she is but can be popular at the same time, hence interesting, not because she is loved.

There are nasty people in this world, Ashleigh is not one of them

"She is a vegetarian and is a big fundraiser for a re-homing centre for cats and dogs due to her love of animals." from her bio

http://instagram.com/p/lVRN51yNhh/
http://instagram.com/p/l_IzZJSNlY/

Pic of Ashleigh and puppy Gucci and a quote from Dalai Lama

She is lovely and caring :hug:

[Kazanne]

There are nasty people in this world, Ashleigh is not one of them

"She is a vegetarian and is a big fundraiser for a re-homing centre for cats and dogs due to her love of animals." from her bio

http://instagram.com/p/lVRN51yNhh/
http://instagram.com/p/l_IzZJSNlY/

Pic of Ashleigh and puppy Gucci and a quote from Dalai Lama

She is lovely and caring :hug:

I'm a veggie and love animals,but I can be a right bitch at times,just because you do things like that doesn't necessarily make you a nice person.

[sampvt]

Does the oracle not see her victory:joker:

The Oracle definitely cant see her winning, in fact if you go back and read my post at the beginning of the series, you will see that I am 14/14 right about every single housemate so far and Winston will be victorious. I can see Ashleigh battling out 3rd with Helen or Ash with Christopher and Winston in the last 2. YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK, because I am very rarely wrong.

[Achilles]

I'm a veggie and love animals,but I can be a right bitch at times,just because you do things like that doesn't necessarily make you a nice person.

Don't believe you :tongue:

Well, partly do :hehe:

[Kazanne]

Don't believe you :tongue:

Well, partly do :hehe:

Watch it you :hehe:

[abhorson]

The Oracle definitely cant see her winning, in fact if you go back and read my post at the beginning of the series, you will see that I am 14/14 right about every single housemate so far and Winston will be victorious. I can see Ashleigh battling out 3rd with Helen or Ash with Christopher and Winston in the last 2. YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK, because I am very rarely wrong.


Helen 3rd. :joker:

Guess that will now be 14/15.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I'm a veggie and love animals,but I can be a right bitch at times,just because you do things like that doesn't necessarily make you a nice person.

Bitch ;)

Im backing her to win, stranger things have happened. Aaron BB12 and Rachel Rice spring to mind.

The fact we haven't had a female winner in years may also sway the public to vote for her. Keep the Ashleigh threads coming its fun to watch her haters get so pissed off yet join in the discussion at the same time lol.

[abhorson]

So much fun. Loving a futile exercise.

[Achilles]

Day 59 10:00am Ashleigh has just woke up after having a dream of winning Big Brother. Her fans are listening intently.

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Day 59 1:00pm Ashleigh is cleaning the kitchen. Her fans are helping.

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:hehe:

[Marsh.]

I've heard it all now, she's not a nasty woman because she's a vegetarian?

:laugh2: That's even worse than "She's only 18". :joker:

[sampvt]

I've heard it all now, she's not a nasty woman because she's a vegetarian?

:laugh2: That's even worse than "She's only 18". :joker:

Plants have feelings. Prince Charles talks to them, why are we applauding her because she eats poor plants, I personally think its disgusting and all that make up she wears, isn't she sparing a thought for all the poor animals they are tested on.

The veggie crap, the dog, the back story....these are all designed to make you go aawwwwww. It is seemingly working though.

[Marsh.]

Exactly. :laugh:

She's actually surpassing Deana as the most overrated waste of space.

[Yaki da]

Plants have feelings. Prince Charles talks to them, why are we applauding her because she eats poor plants, I personally think its disgusting and all that make up she wears, isn't she sparing a thought for all the poor animals they are tested on.

The veggie crap, the dog, the back story....these are all designed to make you go aawwwwww. It is seemingly working though.

Hey up, David Icke's arrived.

[abhorson]

Hey up, David Icke's arrived.

:joker:

[bots]

Pic of Ashleigh and puppy Gucci and a quote from Dalai Lama

She is lovely and caring :hug:

Ah, that explains her relationship with Chris. Chris is her new puppy :joker::joker:

[Achilles]

Hey up, David Icke's arrived.

We'll be hearing how Ashleigh is a shapeshifting lizard from Mars hell bent on destroying the world soon

[Achilles]

Ah, that explains her relationship with Chris. Chris is her new puppy :joker::joker:

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Chris would agree with the sentiments of the Dalai Lama as well.

[abhorson]

We'll be hearing how Ashleigh is a shapeshifting lizard from Mars hell bent on destroying the world soon

They would not go that far surely:laugh:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

We'll be hearing how Ashleigh is a shapeshifting lizard from Mars hell bent on destroying the world soon

Don't forget she also masterminded 9/11.

[rionablue]

Its known here that I don't like her. I did but now I don't. I think she turned on her two friends that were there for her when she first entered the house and the other girls wouldn't even talk to her much cos of her age. Danielle and Kim stuck by her. Then she bitched for days about Kim and nominated her every week and when Danielle tried to keep friendly with Kim she whisked off to tell her not to trust her.

Danielle was no saint and yes she didn't come clean with the housemates about what she really did for a living but she DID stick with Ashleigh. When Danielle was evicted by Pav and Zoe Ashleigh didn't look remotely upset ( not like Helen looked when Steven was gone) and shortly afterwards she was laughing and joking with the very two housemates who got rid of her friend.

Ashleigh had great potential, young, pretty, grounded but she is in my opinion a proper bitch who showed no loyalty to her true friends in there

[Jake.]

Bitch ;)

Im backing her to win, stranger things have happened. Aaron BB12 and Rachel Rice spring to mind.

The fact we haven't had a female winner in years may also sway the public to vote for her. Keep the Ashleigh threads coming its fun to watch her haters get so pissed off yet join in the discussion at the same time lol.

:clap1:

[Kazanne]

Bitch ;)

Im backing her to win, stranger things have happened. Aaron BB12 and Rachel Rice spring to mind.

The fact we haven't had a female winner in years may also sway the public to vote for her. Keep the Ashleigh threads coming its fun to watch her haters get so pissed off yet join in the discussion at the same time lol.

I don't hate her,i don't hate any housemate ever ,the closest I got to that was John James aka crab eyes,I wouldn't invest any of my time or feelings that deeply to any of them I don't know them,but from what I have seen,I don't like her and yes I am enjoying the many debates,keep them coming.

[Kazanne]

:clap1:

I hope you aren't clapping at the 'bitch' bit :shocked::joker:

[Kazanne]

Its known here that I don't like her. I did but now I don't. I think she turned on her two friends that were there for her when she first entered the house and the other girls wouldn't even talk to her much cos of her age. Danielle and Kim stuck by her. Then she bitched for days about Kim and nominated her every week and when Danielle tried to keep friendly with Kim she whisked off to tell her not to trust her.

Danielle was no saint and yes she didn't come clean with the housemates about what she really did for a living but she DID stick with Ashleigh. When Danielle was evicted by Pav and Zoe Ashleigh didn't look remotely upset ( not like Helen looked when Steven was gone) and shortly afterwards she was laughing and joking with the very two housemates who got rid of her friend.

Ashleigh had great potential, young, pretty, grounded but she is in my opinion a proper bitch who showed no loyalty to her true friends in there

rioanablue,we are allowed to dislike her,we don't have to justify ourselves,although I do like your posts.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I don't hate her,i don't hate any housemate ever ,the closest I got to that was John James aka crab eyes,I wouldn't invest any of my time or feelings that deeply to any of them I don't know them,but from what I have seen,I don't like her and yes I am enjoying the many debates,keep them coming.

Sorry only the bitch comment was directly aimed at you lol I just felt the need to call you a bitch seeing as you just said you were a bitch.

Yeah I don't think you hate her but others are openly saying they do, I agree with you that to hate a housemate is a bit ott primarily because we don't know them and have never met them.

I think actually showing hate for a housemate makes a person very week minded and under the control of the very amateur BB editing team.

I like Ashleigh and Im backing her but I don't think the sun shines out of her crack.

[Kazanne]

Sorry only the bitch comment was directly aimed at you lol I just felt the need to call you a bitch seeing as you just said you were a bitch.

Yeah I don't think you hate her but others are openly saying they do, I agree with you that to hate a housemate is a bit ott primarily because we don't know them and have never met them.

I think actually showing hate for a housemate makes a person very week minded and under the control of the very amateur BB editing team.

I like Ashleigh and Im backing her but I don't think the sun shines out of her crack.

Which is fair enough,I totally get that,if only you were all like that, maybe it's not actually Ashleigh herself who is turning people off her,some of the ott adoration of her on here is actually quite silly,unrealistic and quite sickly,even to the point of snow white videos:joker::joker:,I mean ,really? that is pretty strange:hehe:

[joeysteele]

I don't hate her,i don't hate any housemate ever ,the closest I got to that was John James aka crab eyes,I wouldn't invest any of my time or feelings that deeply to any of them I don't know them,but from what I have seen,I don't like her and yes I am enjoying the many debates,keep them coming.

:joker:I still love the crab eyes as to John James.:joker:

I agree with Marsh, without Helen it is much more probable that Ashleigh would have had no major storyline whatsoever,she would have likely stayed in the background most of the time and gone in one of the weeks she was up.

She has actually also herself had 2 immune weeks to as to being nominated for eviction so she too will have got to the final with help also, and in one of those immune weeks, the all female power week, she could have gone then as it was around the time of her loud boos.

Had Helen not had the free pass,it may well have been she would have been up some weeks but not all,without the free pass the public may have viewed her differently too and possibly not voted her out anyway,depending on who she was up against.

I do think however,the free pass,is what in the main will have been a major effect on Helen not doing any better than 4th or 5th in the final and I expect Ashleigh to come 3rd.
However, I have said it many times,Ashleigh would have had no real storyline of note without her intense dislike of Helen, whereas Helen has had many storylines with different housemates.

By the way Kazanne,as to somehting you said earlier, I cannot in any way imagine you being a b...h at all,if you ever were then I bet it was the better kind however and not the 2 faced type of one that Asheigh has shown herself to be throughout the series overall.

[Kazanne]

:joker:I still love the crab eyes as to John James.:joker:

I agree with Marsh, without Helen it is much more probable that Ashleigh would have had no major storyline whatsoever,she would have likely stayed in the background most of the time and gone in one of the weeks she was up.

She has actually also herself had 2 immune weeks to as to being nominated for eviction so she too will have got to the final with help also, and in one of those immune weeks, the all female power week, she could have gone then as it was around the time of her loud boos.

Had Helen not had the free pass,it may well have been she would have been up some weeks but not all,without the free pass the public may have viewed her differently too and possibly not voted her out anyway,depending on who she was up against.

I do think however,the free pass,is what in the main will have been a major effect on Helen not doing any better than 4th or 5th in the final and I expect Ashleigh to come 3rd.
However, I have said it many times,Ashleigh would have had no real storyline of note without her intense dislike of Helen, whereas Helen has had many storylines with different housemates.

By the way Kazanne,as to somehting you said earlier, I cannot in any way imagine you being a b...h at all,if you ever were then I bet it was the better kind however and not the 2 faced type of one that Asheigh has shown herself to be throughout the series overall.

LOL Joey,great post again as for the bitch comment,I am more of a Helen bitch than a two faced one.:thumbs:and agree Ashleigh would have had nothing if Helen hadn't have fed her a back story.

[Kazanne]

She's the top female HM :cheer2: who got there all on her own without having the protection of a free pass. That in itself is a triumph, and to me, she has already won, even if she doesn't get the sometimes dubious winners crown, which usually now goes to the inoffensive, victimized, stereotypical and lets face it, the overdone, well worn 'journey' Housemate :sleep:

She's one of a kind and the amount of interest she inspires in the many threads and posts about her is testament to how interesting, fascinating and divisive she is. And her age does come into it because the longer you have been on this planet, the more experience and knowledge you should gain. Whether you love her or hate her, you have to admit she is the only HM in the running to be possibly beaten by a pity party vote!

If Ashleighs a Triumph,Helen is a Harley Davidson:hehe:

[joeysteele]

If Ashleighs a Triumph,Helen is a Harley Davidson:hehe:

No matter where she finishes up, I still say,in my opinion, love or hate her, this series has been Helen's series, it would have been near tortureand boring to watch this series had she not been in it.

She has never been in my top 4,I didn't care for her in the first week or so, I hated the free pass.
However while Mark is the one I have laughed at the most,for me Helen, bad and good has been compulsive viewing.

As for Ashleigh,most of the time I would have been to sleep except for a small period of about 2 and half weeks as to her.
Some triumph that.

[abhorson]

If Helen was up in week two/three. In all probability she would have gone. She was hated.

[bbfan1991]

She's awesome. A very interesting and flawed person I have enjoyed watching and despite me missing half the series I had already heard bits of what was going on via social media and it seems she has contributed a lot in there, whether people like her or not and if Ashleigh gets to the final or even wins it'll be most deserving IMO because she hasn't sat on the fence or been a people pleaser;).

[Kazanne]

No matter where she finishes up, I still say,in my opinion, love or hate her, this series has been Helen's series, it would have been near tortureand boring to watch this series had she not been in it.

She has never been in my top 4,I didn't care for her in the first week or so, I hated the free pass.
However while Mark is the one I have laughed at the most,for me Helen, bad and good has been compulsive viewing.

As for Ashleigh,most of the time I would have been to sleep except for a small period of about 2 and half weeks as to her.
Some triumph that.

:clap1: A man after my own heart Joey,although,Helen is definitely in my top 4 now ,although,I disliked her a lot at first,a housemate must have something to be able to do that.

[Yaki da]

Of course Helen's been able to let herself go... She's been protected from any eviction. Others had to be a little cleverer than that

[joeysteele]

Of course Helen's been able to let herself go... She's been protected from any eviction. Others had to be a little cleverer than that

I can't say I have seen much in the way as to being clever from the others and certainly not from Ashleigh.
I also think as to Helen she was able to let fly at the start,however because of the free pass and BB warning,she is the one who has for the majority of time in the house had to actually reign herself in, far from being able to let herself go at all.

[Jake.]

This series has been very average since after week 4, if Helen has 'made the series' then good for her on making it a dire one

[Yaki da]

I can't say I have seen much in the aya s to being clever from the others and certainly not from Ashleigh.

She's kept issues she's had about others to herself to help form new alliances. And all of the other HMs recognize she's a clever girl. In particular Chris and Matthew, possibly the two most intelligent HMs.

I also think as to Helen she was able to let fly at the start,however because of the free pass and BB warning,she is the one who has for the majority of time in the house had to actually reign herself in, far from being able to let herself go at all.

Yes, but that's another argument against her. She's been guided into being a better person by punishments and had all the time in the world to change perception of her. A lot of people seem to forget the amount of warnings she's had culminating in a final warning.

[abhorson]

If Ashleighs a Triumph,Helen is a Harley Davidson:hehe:

More like a clapped out scooter:laugh:

[Daffodil]

Ashleigh has support from men who fancy her and women who want to be her. Frankly I think she is horrible.

[abhorson]

Ashleigh has support from men who fancy her and women who want to be her. Frankly I think she is horrible.

And the gay support:laugh:

[Miranda123]

She's the top female HM :cheer2: who got there all on her own without having the protection of a free pass. That in itself is a triumph, and to me, she has already won, even if she doesn't get the sometimes dubious winners crown, which usually now goes to the inoffensive, victimized, stereotypical and lets face it, the overdone, well worn 'journey' Housemate :sleep:

She's one of a kind and the amount of interest she inspires in the many threads and posts about her is testament to how interesting, fascinating and divisive she is. And her age does come into it because the longer you have been on this planet, the more experience and knowledge you should gain. Whether you love her or hate her, you have to admit she is the only HM in the running to be possibly beaten by a pity party vote!

I was wondering when Ashleigh fans would start with the "she's already won" threads

prepping for her big fall are we lol

[LukeB]

SLAY
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuDms3uIcAEQWsD.jpg:large

[LukeB]

It's funny because she gained a large number of her fanbase due to being "Victimized" and being on a "Journey as an 18 year old"

Carry on though...:laugh:

she became popular on here after toya left :hehe:
then when marlon pressed the button, she got even more popular
her campaign was MASSSIVE twitter,facebook,bbspy it was trending :)

[Daffodil]

I don't really understand odds, but if this means that Ashleigh is ahead, it won't last. She is far too bitter an individual to stay popular.

[sampvt]

People seem to think that Ashleigh was invited into the house and was a beauty queen because someone knocked on her door and told her you are the most beautiful woman in Derry so we want to crown you......Are you serious, ........Beauty pageants are frequented by fame hungry wanabees and the same girl went to the lengths of applying to go on BB for more coverage. Her mother is notorious on twitter for being pushy and the word from people in Derry that know the family say they are a bunch of fame hungry idiots.

I prefer to look for myself but in the face of the twitter stuff and the reports coming in, coupled with what I am seeing for myself, she holds absolutely no redeeming characteristics for me. I have never seen a lady or nice young girl utter profanities like she does and her bitchiness is well documented so I am afraid that its a done deal that she is just plain nasty and has been found wanting.

[LukeB]

I don't really understand odds, but if this means that Ashleigh is ahead, it won't last. She is far too bitter an individual to stay popular.

her fans are loyal :)
we got #keepashleigh everywhere and trending :hehe:

[Speedster]

Yes congrats to Ashleigh, last girl standing.

and you are right Helen doesnt count because she is not a girl so congrats to Helen, last woman standing. :dance:


Lol well said, they're both women because they're both classed as adult.

[LukeB]

ashleighs slays that much she gets talked about the most :dance2:

[Kazanne]

ashleighs slays that much she gets talked about the most :dance2:

:joker: So did Jack the Ripper,that's a silly analogy.

[rusticgal]

She's the top female HM :cheer2: who got there all on her own without having the protection of a free pass. That in itself is a triumph, and to me, she has already won, even if she doesn't get the sometimes dubious winners crown, which usually now goes to the inoffensive, victimized, stereotypical and lets face it, the overdone, well worn 'journey' Housemate :sleep:

She's one of a kind and the amount of interest she inspires in the many threads and posts about her is testament to how interesting, fascinating and divisive she is. And her age does come into it because the longer you have been on this planet, the more experience and knowledge you should gain. Whether you love her or hate her, you have to admit she is the only HM in the running to be possibly beaten by a pity party vote!

:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

[LukeB]

:joker: So did Jack the Ripper,that's a silly analogy.

i would like to be ashleigh :)
favourite to win must be nice :flutter:

[Crimson Dynamo]

She's the top female HM :cheer2: who got there all on her own without having the protection of a free pass. That in itself is a triumph, and to me, she has already won, even if she doesn't get the sometimes dubious winners crown, which usually now goes to the inoffensive, victimized, stereotypical and lets face it, the overdone, well worn 'journey' Housemate :sleep:

She's one of a kind and the amount of interest she inspires in the many threads and posts about her is testament to how interesting, fascinating and divisive she is. And her age does come into it because the longer you have been on this planet, the more experience and knowledge you should gain. Whether you love her or hate her, you have to admit she is the only HM in the running to be possibly beaten by a pity party vote!

:clap1:

[LukeB]

:clap1:

we must not forget the keep ashleigh compaign :hehe:

it was trending and it was everywhere

ashleighs fans are number 1

[daniel-lewis-1985]

People seem to think that Ashleigh was invited into the house and was a beauty queen because someone knocked on her door and told her you are the most beautiful woman in Derry so we want to crown you......Are you serious, ........Beauty pageants are frequented by fame hungry wanabees and the same girl went to the lengths of applying to go on BB for more coverage. Her mother is notorious on twitter for being pushy and the word from people in Derry that know the family say they are a bunch of fame hungry idiots.

I prefer to look for myself but in the face of the twitter stuff and the reports coming in, coupled with what I am seeing for myself, she holds absolutely no redeeming characteristics for me. I have never seen a lady or nice young girl utter profanities like she does and her bitchiness is well documented so I am afraid that its a done deal that she is just plain nasty and has been found wanting.

HAHA ok then.

Everyone "the word from people in Derry that know the family say they are a bunch of fame hungry idiots" apparently lol.

Where do you get this nonsense from?

I have just done a twitter search and seen no evidence of her notorious mother do you have her official twitter account link i want to see this notorious behaviour for myself.

Also who are these people in Derry I would love to see their views if they exist.

[Achilles]

ashleighs slays that much she gets talked about the most :dance2:

There are always witches, goblins, ugly step sisters, trolls, evil wizards etc all trying to destroy the star of the story, the princess.

[sampvt]

HAHA ok then.

Everyone "the word from people in Derry that know the family say they are a bunch of fame hungry idiots" apparently lol.

Where do you get this nonsense from?

I have just done a twitter search and seen no evidence of her notorious mother do you have her official twitter account link i want to see this notorious behaviour for myself.

Also who are these people in Derry I would love to see their views if they exist.

If you are not clever enough to find your own reports, then you have no right to slag me off. Stick to posting against HM's not other posters.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

If you are not clever enough to find your own reports, then you have no right to slag me off. Stick to posting against HM's not other posters.

All im asking is the link to Ashleighs mothers Twitter account because im clearly not clever enough to find it.

Can you post it please?

Im sorry but when you make such bold statements it would be nice for everyone to see where they come from not only that but it would make your posts a lot more credible and with sources like that who could argue back then?

No one you would be a winner.

[joeysteele]

Favourites often don't win, the celebrations in my view are way too soon as other series have shown.

[icecakes]

Ashleigh has support from men who fancy her and women who want to be her. Frankly I think she is horrible.

Me and my mates hate her,nasty backstabbing cow

[joeysteele]

She's kept issues she's had about others to herself to help form new alliances. And all of the other HMs recognize she's a clever girl. In particular Chris and Matthew, possibly the two most intelligent HMs.



Yes, but that's another argument against her. She's been guided into being a better person by punishments and had all the time in the world to change perception of her. A lot of people seem to forget the amount of warnings she's had culminating in a final warning.



Sorry but to me that is to her credit, someone really nasty who didn't care would have gone on regardless, the fact she has listened to 'authority of a sort' and been able to amend her behaviour is a good thing.

It demonstrates too that she can show respect and also look, we have only seen her have a talking to and then a final warning.When you and others can show me where there is more warnings,that are 'confirmed' and have been shown then that argument may have better substantiation.

Guided or not, her behaviour did change once it was pointed out as being unacceptable, I have lost count of the weeks ago that was now,it still shows she could do it and did do it and I say again that is to her credit.

Further condemnation of her would have been justified had she not done so and I would have been one of the first to do so too, as I did at the start of the series.

[chuff me dizzy]

She said tonight she was the last REAL female left due to no help/passes WRONG she got a pass on the week after she got booed so every chance she would have gone,she also got one the week all females had power

[Achilles]

She said tonight she was the last REAL female left due to no help/passes WRONG she got a pass on the week after she got booed so every chance she would have gone,she also got one the week all females had power

Irrelevant. Ashleigh has survived evictions. Helen hasn't even been eligible to be nominated. Ashleigh and the other housemates have earned their place. Helen was gifted her place.

[jet]

Irrelevant. Ashleigh has survived evictions. Helen hasn't even been eligible to be nominated. Ashleigh and the other housemates have earned their place. Helen was gifted her place.

Exactly. There is no argument as to that. :thumbs:

[Marsh.]

:joker:I still love the crab eyes as to John James.:joker:

I agree with Marsh, without Helen it is much more probable that Ashleigh would have had no major storyline whatsoever,she would have likely stayed in the background most of the time and gone in one of the weeks she was up.

She has actually also herself had 2 immune weeks to as to being nominated for eviction so she too will have got to the final with help also, and in one of those immune weeks, the all female power week, she could have gone then as it was around the time of her loud boos.

Had Helen not had the free pass,it may well have been she would have been up some weeks but not all,without the free pass the public may have viewed her differently too and possibly not voted her out anyway,depending on who she was up against.

I do think however,the free pass,is what in the main will have been a major effect on Helen not doing any better than 4th or 5th in the final and I expect Ashleigh to come 3rd.
However, I have said it many times,Ashleigh would have had no real storyline of note without her intense dislike of Helen, whereas Helen has had many storylines with different housemates.

By the way Kazanne,as to somehting you said earlier, I cannot in any way imagine you being a b...h at all,if you ever were then I bet it was the better kind however and not the 2 faced type of one that Asheigh has shown herself to be throughout the series overall.

:clap1:

[jet]

:joker:I still love the crab eyes as to John James.:joker:

I agree with Marsh, without Helen it is much more probable that Ashleigh would have had no major storyline whatsoever,she would have likely stayed in the background most of the time and gone in one of the weeks she was up.

She has actually also herself had 2 immune weeks to as to being nominated for eviction so she too will have got to the final with help also, and in one of those immune weeks, the all female power week, she could have gone then as it was around the time of her loud boos.

Had Helen not had the free pass,it may well have been she would have been up some weeks but not all,without the free pass the public may have viewed her differently too and possibly not voted her out anyway,depending on who she was up against.

I do think however,the free pass,is what in the main will have been a major effect on Helen not doing any better than 4th or 5th in the final and I expect Ashleigh to come 3rd.
However, I have said it many times,Ashleigh would have had no real storyline of note without her intense dislike of Helen, whereas Helen has had many storylines with different housemates.

By the way Kazanne,as to somehting you said earlier, I cannot in any way imagine you being a b...h at all,if you ever were then I bet it was the better kind however and not the 2 faced type of one that Asheigh has shown herself to be throughout the series overall.

You say Ashleigh wouldn't have any storylines of note without her 'hatred' of Helen, but you fail to point out that 'all Helen's storylines with different HM's' of note have been nasty ones. Her bullying of Jale, her nasty treatment of Chris and Christopher, her nasty arguments with Matthew, Danielle etc. Her warnings for name calling and bullying. What storyline has she had that hasn't included nastiness? Kissing Ash? :sleep:
I don't see continuous nastiness and bullying as noteworthy at all...and I certainly don't see Ashleigh bitching about that nastiness and bullying as 'two faced' as you seem to because she wasn't being nice to Helen's face and she was saying what the majority of us were saying. What is your definition of two faced? :conf:

And the fact is, you can't possibly know what kind of storylines Ashleigh or any of them would have had without the presence of the awful Helen, especially in the early weeks. I don't forget how the HM's said the house was much better and they enjoyed it more when she was in the morgue....

[Marsh.]

It's noteworthy because it's basically been the singular running storyline of the entire series.

[Yaki da]

She said tonight she was the last REAL female left due to no help/passes WRONG she got a pass on the week after she got booed so every chance she would have gone,she also got one the week all females had power

The week after she was booed, or chanted to get out, she was up with Jale. She survived. And topped the popularity polls from that moment since.

[jet]

It's noteworthy because it's basically been the singular running storyline of the entire series.

Noteworthy only for Helen's unpleasantness and for making this series one of the worst ever. What an achievement for her. :laugh:

[joeysteele]

You say Ashleigh wouldn't have any storylines of note without her 'hatred' of Helen, but you fail to point out that 'all Helen's storylines with different HM's' of note have been nasty ones. Her bullying of Jale, her nasty treatment of Chris and Christopher, her nasty arguments with Matthew, Danielle etc. Her warnings for name calling and bullying. What storyline has she had that hasn't included nastiness? Kissing Ash? :sleep:
I don't see continuous nastiness and bullying as noteworthy at all...and I certainly don't see Ashleigh bitching about that nastiness and bullying as 'two faced' as you seem to because she wasn't being nice to Helen's face and she was saying what the majority of us were saying. What is your definition of two faced? :conf:

And the fact is, you can't possibly know what kind of storylines Ashleigh or any of them would have had without the presence of the awful Helen, especially in the early weeks. I don't forget how the HM's said the house was much better and they enjoyed it more when she was in the morgue....

Well with respect Ashleigh had no storylines for close on the first 3 weeks of the series, all we saw was a miserable,reclusive housemate who did and said absolutely nothing of note at all.
Also all Ashleigh could do in the main,when they were in the morgue, was talk about Helen while she was out of the house.
The girl was obsessed with Helen for goodness sake,it was like she was on a mission.
She actually only got a higher profile when she started the 2 faced backstabbing of Helen and Ash and still, that is the only thing she can be highlighted for.

I cannot think of one other thing Ashleigh has done or said that brings her to the forefront of this series, other than her Helen storyline and trying to get Ash evicted to get at Helen.
A lot of spiteful acts with one spiteful aim,does not make for a good housemate in my view and certainly not a winning one either.

She has in fact had only one triumph so far in the house, that was to ensure Ash was not saved,or considered to be saved in the all female power week, a week she herself could have likely gone had she been eligible to be up since then she was well and truly booed too.
She was however, probably saved then herself by BB making her immune that week too.
Something you regularly and surprisingly overlook, she has had 2 'free' immune weeks too,to help her go further in the series.

[Speedster]

Ashleigh has support from men who fancy her and women who want to be her. Frankly I think she is horrible.


How silly, I'm 44 I don't fancy her in the slightest.

[jet]

How silly, I'm 44 I don't fancy her in the slightest.

Same here. I have 2 daughters older than Ashleigh, one of which was bullied viciously at school. I feel empathy for Ashleigh and know the place she is coming from. I think she is enormously brave for trying to weaken Helen's position in the house, and she's the one person Helen knew/knows she couldn't/can't mess with. I admire and applaud Ashleigh for that.

[Creggle]

How silly, I'm 44 I don't fancy her in the slightest.

Nothing wrong if you did, she's built by nature to be fancied by anyone aged 10-100!

[Cutegirl289]

I absolutely love Ashleigh! ASHLEIGH TO WIN❤️❤️❤️.

[Northern Monkey]

Ashleigh is the true winner of this series no matter what happens in the final.

[jet]

Well with respect Ashleigh had no storylines for close on the first 3 weeks of the series, all we saw was a miserable,reclusive housemate who did and said absolutely nothing of note at all.
Also all Ashleigh could do in the main,when they were in the morgue, was talk about Helen while she was out of the house.
The girl was obsessed with Helen for goodness sake,it was like she was on a mission.
She actually only got a higher profile when she started the 2 faced backstabbing of Helen and Ash and still, that is the only thing she can be highlighted for.

I cannot think of one other thing Ashleigh has done or said that brings her to the forefront of this series, other than her Helen storyline and trying to get Ash evicted to get at Helen.
A lot of spiteful acts with one spiteful aim,does not make for a good housemate in my view and certainly not a winning one either.

She has in fact had only one triumph so far in the house, that was to ensure Ash was not saved,or considered to be saved in the all female power week, a week she herself could have likely gone had she been eligible to be up since then she was well and truly booed too.
She was however, probably saved then herself by BB making her immune that week too.
Something you regularly and surprisingly overlook, she has had 2 'free' immune weeks too,to help her go further in the series.

What you surprisingly overlook is that Ashleigh was badly bullied at school! Then she goes into BB and finds herself in a position of being stuck with another one for 10 weeks. For the first few weeks she watches Helen shout and scream and bully Jale, Danielle, Matthew, Chris, Christopher etc and get multiple warnings and you wonder why she stayed in the backgroud? We hardly seen Chris or Christopher either for the first few weeks.

You seem to have expected a teenager to have marched up to a loud mouthed vile bully and tackled her! After the behaviour she seen from her with others who crossed her? So what does she do - she bitches about her with her friend - completely normal for a teenager.
So during girl power she uses her intelligence to weaken the untouchable Helen's position. She tries to get Helen's bestie, Ash, up for nomination and she is happy and excited when it works. This is the Ash who laughs at Helen's name calling and eggs her on, remember. All you can say is she was being spiteful and horrible as if Helen and Ash were the 2 loveliest people in there....

She's had storylines that showed how resilient and courageous she is when BB set her up - first when they gave Kim and Helen ammunition to slate her from the morgue - second they showed the video to Helen, Kim and Jale - third she got immunity from the public and BB unexpectedly gave others the power to take it away from her. Throughout all this, she kept her cool and her dignity and took it on the chin.
As she has done when nominated - unlike Ash and Steven who moaned and whined said they didn't deserve to be up!
She conducted herself maturely and well the week she had the power.

Also remember that Chris adores her, said she was amazing and wants to spend time with her. He said last night that he couldn't wait to meet her boyfriend because 'he is a part of Ashleigh that he doesn't know'. Chris is astute and intelligent. Do you really think he would want to spend so much time around a boring, uninteresting young girl all the time even if he did fancy her (which I think is rubbish, by the way).
If you have watched the video's you would see more of Ashleigh having fun and doing other things, which is the same for all the other HM's. The editing of the HL shows have been terrible this year.

So all in all, I really can't see why you write such venom about Ashleigh while finding excuses for Helen. But each to their own. :shrug:

[RockBottom]

Sleeping Beauty takes a couple of minutes from her eternal BB sleep to ask the mirror who the fairest one of all was. She was no very happy with the answer.

[sampvt]

What you surprisingly overlook is that Ashleigh was badly bullied at school! Then she goes into BB and finds herself in a position of being stuck with another one for 10 weeks. For the first few weeks she watches Helen shout and scream and bully Jale, Danielle, Matthew, Chris, Christopher etc and get multiple warnings and you wonder why she stayed in the backgroud? We hardly seen Chris or Christopher either for the first few weeks.

You seem to have expected a teenager to have marched up to a loud mouthed vile bully and tackled her! After the behaviour she seen from her with others who crossed her? So what does she do - she bitches about her with her friend - completely normal for a teenager.
So during girl power she uses her intelligence to weaken the untouchable Helen's position. She tries to get Helen's bestie, Ash, up for nomination and she is happy and excited when it works. This is the Ash who laughs at Helen's name calling and eggs her on, remember. All you can say is she was being spiteful and horrible as if Helen and Ash were the 2 loveliest people in there....

She's had storylines that showed how resilient and courageous she is when BB set her up - first when they gave Kim and Helen ammunition to slate her from the morgue - second they showed the video to Helen, Kim and Jale - third she got immunity from the public and BB unexpectedly gave others the power to take it away from her. Throughout all this, she kept her cool and her dignity and took it on the chin.
As she has done when nominated - unlike Ash and Steven who moaned and whined said they didn't deserve to be up!
She conducted herself maturely and well the week she had the power.

Also remember that Chris adores her, said she was amazing and wants to spend time with her. He said last night that he couldn't wait to meet her boyfriend because 'he is a part of Ashleigh that he doesn't know'. Chris is astute and intelligent. Do you really think he would want to spend so much time around a boring, uninteresting young girl all the time even if he did fancy her (which I think is rubbish, by the way).
If you have watched the video's you would see more of Ashleigh having fun and doing other things, which is the same for all the other HM's. The editing of the HL shows have been terrible this year.

So all in all, I really can't see why you write such venom about Ashleigh while finding excuses for Helen. But each to their own. :shrug:

Ashleigh bullied at school, BS my dear. Its a story that's been invented to provide her with reasons for acting like a twat and a bitch. Please post proof of this ridiculous claim.

[bbfan1991]

Regardless of whether she wins or not I think Ashleigh will do well outside the house and she has plenty of options to consider RE what she will want to do next:).

[Kazanne]

What you surprisingly overlook is that Ashleigh was badly bullied at school! Then she goes into BB and finds herself in a position of being stuck with another one for 10 weeks. For the first few weeks she watches Helen shout and scream and bully Jale, Danielle, Matthew, Chris, Christopher etc and get multiple warnings and you wonder why she stayed in the backgroud? We hardly seen Chris or Christopher either for the first few weeks.

You seem to have expected a teenager to have marched up to a loud mouthed vile bully and tackled her! After the behaviour she seen from her with others who crossed her? So what does she do - she bitches about her with her friend - completely normal for a teenager.
So during girl power she uses her intelligence to weaken the untouchable Helen's position. She tries to get Helen's bestie, Ash, up for nomination and she is happy and excited when it works. This is the Ash who laughs at Helen's name calling and eggs her on, remember. All you can say is she was being spiteful and horrible as if Helen and Ash were the 2 loveliest people in there....

She's had storylines that showed how resilient and courageous she is when BB set her up - first when they gave Kim and Helen ammunition to slate her from the morgue - second they showed the video to Helen, Kim and Jale - third she got immunity from the public and BB unexpectedly gave others the power to take it away from her. Throughout all this, she kept her cool and her dignity and took it on the chin.
As she has done when nominated - unlike Ash and Steven who moaned and whined said they didn't deserve to be up!
She conducted herself maturely and well the week she had the power.

Also remember that Chris adores her, said she was amazing and wants to spend time with her. He said last night that he couldn't wait to meet her boyfriend because 'he is a part of Ashleigh that he doesn't know'. Chris is astute and intelligent. Do you really think he would want to spend so much time around a boring, uninteresting young girl all the time even if he did fancy her (which I think is rubbish, by the way).
If you have watched the video's you would see more of Ashleigh having fun and doing other things, which is the same for all the other HM's. The editing of the HL shows have been terrible this year.

So all in all, I really can't see why you write such venom about Ashleigh while finding excuses for Helen. But each to their own. :shrug:

How do you know she was 'bullied' at school

[LukeB]

How do you know she was 'bullied' at school

because most people are bullied and once you bullied you hate bullies, i was bullied reason why i hate helen and most people hate helen for bullying

[jet]

Ashleigh bullied at school, BS my dear. Its a story that's been invented to provide her with reasons for acting like a twat and a bitch. Please post proof of this ridiculous claim.

She said so - it's up to you to prove that she wasn't. Unless you can show the proof, it's rather cruel to accuse someone of lying or doubt them about something like that just because you don't like them.

But I'm glad it's the only part of my post that you can find to pick on....:laugh: I'm sure you'll try hard to find something else in it to dispute, but seeing you didn't the first time around, I assume you agree with it all really and it'll just be to save face...:laugh:

[Achilles]

How do you know she was 'bullied' at school

You have seen the amount of bullying she gets on this forum, why doubt she was bullied at school?

Poor Ashleigh :hug:

[Ellen]

Bullied at school? Yet she has sat there day after day, bitching, moaning, been nasty & spiteful about other Hm's :conf:
She comes across more of a mean girl than a victim imo

[bots]

You have seen the amount of bullying she gets on this forum, why doubt she was bullied at school?

Poor Ashleigh :hug:

Oh, come on, lets have some facts. If people are trying say her behaviour in the house has been affected by bullying, lets se some evidence. I would say there was very little chance of Ashleigh being bullied at school based on what I see of her character now, but that is purely my opinion

[LukeB]

Ashleigh bullied at school, BS my dear. Its a story that's been invented to provide her with reasons for acting like a twat and a bitch. Please post proof of this ridiculous claim.

why would anyone lie about being bullied? you seem to know alot about ashleigh for someone who claims to 'dislike' her, #obsessed

[LukeB]

Bullied at school? Yet she has sat there day after day, bitching, moaning, been nasty & spiteful about other Hm's :conf:
She comes across more of a mean girl than a victim imo

thats different to bullying :sleep:
everyone bitches mainly teenagers and she is 18 so she still a teenager

[Achilles]

Bullied at school? Yet she has sat there day after day, bitching, moaning, been nasty & spiteful about other Hm's :conf:
She comes across more of a mean girl than a victim imo

Being nasty about the bully Helen you mean?
If a kid at school gets bullied every day and is nasty about the bullies, are you the type to hate on the victim?

[jet]

Being nasty about the bully Helen you mean?
If a kid at school gets bullied every day and is nasty about the bullies, are you the type to hate on the victim?

We already know the answer to that one Achilles as many people hate Ashleigh for daring to be bitchy about Helen.

[Ellen]

thats different to bullying :sleep:
everyone bitches mainly teenagers and she is 18 so she still a teenager

If you read my post properly i questioned her been bullied at school because she has been quite nasty in the house to some Hm's.
I dont care if she is a teenager, her bitching has not just been bitching its been nasty & spiteful.

[Marsh.]

Noteworthy only for Helen's unpleasantness and for making this series one of the worst ever. What an achievement for her. :laugh:

Again, it doesn't matter whether it's unpleasant or not, outside of Steven and Kimberley it's the only thing that BB15 will be remembered for. That's kind of our point.

[Ellen]

Being nasty about the bully Helen you mean?
If a kid at school gets bullied every day and is nasty about the bullies, are you the type to hate on the victim?

Did i say that? No.

[Marsh.]

because most people are bullied and once you bullied you hate bullies, i was bullied reason why i hate helen and most people hate helen for bullying

:joker: Really? That's your answer "How do you know Ashleigh was bullied?"
"Because most people are".

:joker:

[Marsh.]

Being nasty about the bully Helen you mean?
If a kid at school gets bullied every day and is nasty about the bullies, are you the type to hate on the victim?

Ashleigh isn't a victim and Helen has not bullied her.

[LukeB]

Again, it doesn't matter whether it's unpleasant or not, outside of Steven and Kimberley it's the only thing that BB15 will be remembered for. That's kind of our point.

steven and kimberly? who are they?

[Kazanne]

because most people are bullied and once you bullied you hate bullies, i was bullied reason why i hate helen and most people hate helen for bullying

I tend to think she was the one that bullied others,looking at her character now:joker: Shall we claim Helen was bullied,so that accounts for her behaviour?

[Kazanne]

Did i say that? No.

they make it up as they go along to fit it in with their infatuations:hehe:

[LukeB]

I tend to think she was the one that bullied others,looking at her character now:joker: Shall we claim Helen was bullied,so that accounts for her behaviour?

well thats utter bull****, ashleigh has never bullied anyone otherwise it would of been said by people. bitching is different to bullying.....

[Achilles]

Ashleigh isn't a victim and Helen has not bullied her.

Ashleigh is a victim of bullying from school. Helen has bullied people in the house. Ashleigh hates it when Helen is nasty and bullies housemates, so Ashleigh bitches about Helen. Then TEAM BULLY start hating on Ashleigh. Reason is they LOVE it when Helen is nasty to people because that's what they get off on it, just like when they were at school.
Ashleigh loves animals. People who liked kicking and hurting animals when they were young won't like that about Ashleigh either.

[Kazanne]

well thats utter bull****, ashleigh has never bullied anyone otherwise it would of been said by people. bitching is different to bullying.....

:laugh: Now you know how we feel with the ridiculous accusations

[Marsh.]

Well I'm not sitting discussing details that aren't true.

I suppose you think Steven's a successful businessman and Kimberley was pregnant too? :idc:

[LukeB]

:laugh: Now you know how we feel with the ridiculous accusations

accusations? if its about what i think it is..helen is a bully, everyone seen it, not many like her:hehe:

[Kazanne]

Ashleigh is a victim of bullying from school. Helen has bullied people in the house. Ashleigh hates it when Helen is nasty and bullies housemates, so Ashleigh bitches about Helen. Then TEAM BULLY start hating on Ashleigh. Reason is they LOVE it when Helen is nasty to people because that's what they get off on it, just like when they were at school.
Ashleigh loves animals. People who liked kicking and hurting animals when they were young won't like that about Ashleigh either.

WHO on earth is team bully,and Ashleigh has been nasty to other housemates,even her friends,not just Helen:conf:and what an utterly STUPID thing to say that people who don't like Ashleigh hurt animals!!!!! how dare you,so how do you come to terms with Helen loving her dog? that must cut to the Quick !

[Marsh.]

steven and kimberly? who are they?

Who's that guy in your sig? Shouldn't you update it to someone from this series? :idc:

[Kazanne]

Who's that guy in your sig? Shouldn't you update it to someone from this series? :idc:

:joker:

[LukeB]

WHO on earth is team bully,and Ashleigh has been nasty to other housemates,even her friends,not just Helen:conf:and what an utterly STUPID thing to say that people who don't like Ashleigh hurt animals!!!!! how dare you,so how do you come to terms with Helen loving her dog? that must cut to the Quick !

but ashleigh has never bulied anyone
#poorjale helen is a bully end of

[LukeB]

Who's that guy in your sig? Shouldn't you update it to someone from this series? :idc:

its winston and he is in the series :)

[Marsh.]

its winston and he is in the series :)

winston? :crazy: As in the sauce?

[Achilles]

WHO on earth is team bully,and Ashleigh has been nasty to other housemates,even her friends,not just Helen:conf:and what an utterly STUPID thing to say that people who don't like Ashleigh hurt animals!!!!! how dare you,so how do you come to terms with Helen loving her dog? that must cut to the Quick !

If I bullied my niece and her friends bitched about me and said nasty things about me, would you hate on me or my niece and her friends?

If I saw my niece was in a mood and I started to bait her until she lost her temper at me, would you hate on me or my niece?

[jet]

The Ashleigh bashing is reaching fever pitch...I don't get the anger and venom towards a plucky teenager on BB who went against a bully. It's quite frightening, actually. :facepalm:

Thank goodness the majority love her for it. Whew!

[Achilles]

The Ashleigh bashing is reaching fever pitch...I don't get the anger and venom towards a plucky teenager on BB who went against a bully. It's quite frightening, actually. :facepalm:

Thank goodness the majority love her for it. Whew!

They hate her because she is beautiful. It's jealousy and bitterness. If Ashleigh was ugly and bitched about the bully Helen people would be saying how great she is, just like they all did when Chris had diary room rant about Helen. It's ok for Chris to spill the truth tea because he looks "creepy" and isn't threatening to people.

[LukeB]

winston? :crazy: As in the sauce?

a person who is still in the house and 3rd favourite to win:smug:
steven will be remembered for the worst not good
#noonelikesteven

[bots]

Ashleigh is a victim of bullying from school. Helen has bullied people in the house. Ashleigh hates it when Helen is nasty and bullies housemates, so Ashleigh bitches about Helen. Then TEAM BULLY start hating on Ashleigh. Reason is they LOVE it when Helen is nasty to people because that's what they get off on it, just like when they were at school.
Ashleigh loves animals. People who liked kicking and hurting animals when they were young won't like that about Ashleigh either.


I think there are some budding fiction writers in the making :joker::joker:

[Achilles]

a person who is still in the house and 3rd favourite to win:smug:
steven will be remembered for the worst not good
#noonelikesteven

Betfair latest
Ashleigh 85/40
Winston 100/40
Christopher 110/40
:dance2:

[sampvt]

She said so - it's up to you to prove that she wasn't. Unless you can show the proof, it's rather cruel to accuse someone of lying or doubt them about something like that just because you don't like them.

But I'm glad it's the only part of my post that you can find to pick on....:laugh: I'm sure you'll try hard to find something else in it to dispute, but seeing you didn't the first time around, I assume you agree with it all really and it'll just be to save face...:laugh:

Thank god you are not a lawyer, lol. It isn't up to me to disprove you, you made the post and if your claims are to be believed IT IS UP TO YOU TO PROVE YOUR STATEMENT.

Its not cruel to accuse a known liar of an infidelity she is proven to be already aufaire with. As I said in my post, she has invented the bullying bit to gain an edge and as for commenting on the rest of your post, well TBH., I find it really boring repeating myself as do probably loads of other posters that have disagreed with you in the past because you keep repeating the same old same old.

BTW being condescending and smirking or laughing at another poster is baiting or at worst just plain rude.

[LukeB]

Betfair latest
Ashleigh 85/40
Winston 100/40
Christopher 110/40
:dance2:

yay my favourite two are the top 2 favourites :dance2:

[Kazanne]

The Ashleigh bashing is reaching fever pitch...I don't get the anger and venom towards a plucky teenager on BB who went against a bully. It's quite frightening, actually. :facepalm:

Thank goodness the majority love her for it. Whew!

I'm not bashing her,just stating my opinion,if you don't want to hear others opinions ,stop trying to belittle them by saying they are getting feverish!!! as if,I'de say more feverish is someone insinuating people who don't like her are nasty to animals,bloody ridiculous thing to say

[jet]

Ashleigh is a victim of bullying from school. Helen has bullied people in the house. Ashleigh hates it when Helen is nasty and bullies housemates, so Ashleigh bitches about Helen. Then TEAM BULLY start hating on Ashleigh. Reason is they LOVE it when Helen is nasty to people because that's what they get off on it, just like when they were at school.
Ashleigh loves animals. People who liked kicking and hurting animals when they were young won't like that about Ashleigh either.

Well said! Unfortunately there are people in life who just LOVE seeing people being nasty and vile to others. Bitching isn't entertaining enough - they want to see shouting and screaming and fights and nastiness. Ashleigh didn't deliver, and Helen did.

[Kazanne]

If I bullied my niece and her friends bitched about me and said nasty things about me, would you hate on me or my niece and her friends?

If I saw my niece was in a mood and I started to bait her until she lost her temper at me, would you hate on me or my niece?

I worry about you sometimes:suspect:

[Marsh.]

a person who is still in the house and 3rd favourite to win:smug:
steven will be remembered for the worst not good
#noonelikesteven

No, but he's a more memorable housemate than half the bores still in the house.

[Marsh.]

The Ashleigh bashing is reaching fever pitch...I don't get the anger and venom towards a plucky teenager on BB who went against a bully. It's quite frightening, actually. :facepalm:

Thank goodness the majority love her for it. Whew!

Disagreeing with her fans isn't anger and venom my dear. :pat:

Dear, you do overreact about such small things, no wonder you call everyone a bully over the slightest thing. Bless.

[LukeB]

Disagreeing with her fans isn't anger and venom my dear. :pat:

Dear, you do overreact about such small things, no wonder you call everyone a bully over the slightest thing. Bless.

there no one to call a bully but helen :hehe:

[Achilles]

I worry about you sometimes:suspect:

Instead of worrying about me, why not answer the 2 questions I asked? Do you not want to answer them?

[LukeB]

No, but he's a more memorable housemate than half the bores still in the house.

people have forgotten the jealous twit tbh

[sampvt]

I'm not bashing her,just stating my opinion,if you don't want to hear others opinions ,stop trying to belittle them by saying they are getting feverish!!! as if,I'de say more feverish is someone insinuating people who don't like her are nasty to animals,bloody ridiculous thing to say

Well said.

BTW by way of an experiment I have been back as far as I could go and counted how many Ashleigh lovers there are on this site.

Out of hundreds and maybe thousands of people that actually submit to this site, I can only find 23 that have positive things to say about her. That's a hell of a lot of noise from only 23 posters and more recently the most verbal, and at times vitriolic, number only 8.

I started to count those that disliked Ashleigh and I gave up when I got to over 50, so I think we can assume that Ashleigh lovers are in the minority but are the most infatic when it comes to posting.

[Kazanne]

Disagreeing with her fans isn't anger and venom my dear. :pat:

Dear, you do overreact about such small things, no wonder you call everyone a bully over the slightest thing. Bless.

:clap1:

[LukeB]

Well said.

BTW by way of an experiment I have been back as far as I could go and counted how many Ashleigh lovers there are on this site.

Out of hundreds and maybe thousands of people that actually submit to this site, I can only find 23 that have positive things to say about her. That's a hell of a lot of noise from only 23 posters and more recently the most verbal, and at times vitriolic, number only 8.

I started to count those that disliked Ashleigh and I gave up when I got to over 50, so I think we can assume that Ashleigh lovers are in the minority but are the most infatic when it comes to posting.

there more then 23 that love ashleigh. have you seen the polls on here and at the top ashleigh has the move % for favourite housemate :hehe:

favourite to win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so HA :smug::smug::smug::smug::smug::smug::smug::smug:

[bots]

Well said! Unfortunately there are people in life who just LOVE seeing people being nasty and vile to others. Bitching isn't entertaining enough - they want to see shouting and screaming and fights and nastiness. Ashleigh didn't deliver, and Helen did.

I haven't seen a single post on this forum supporting bullying ... not one :shrug:

How anyone can make a connection between support of any house mate and that making them cruel to animals, is really ridiculous. Speechless.

[Kazanne]

I haven't seen a single post on this forum supporting bullying ... not one :shrug:

How anyone can make a connection between support of any house mate and that making them cruel to animals, is really ridiculous. Speechless.

Desperate more like,I have animals and I'm a veggie and I cant stand her,so they better analyze that

[sampvt]

there more then 23 that love ashleigh. have you seen the polls on here and at the top ashleigh has the move % for favourite housemate :hehe:

favourite to win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so HA :smug::smug::smug::smug::smug::smug::smug::smug:

You cant use that poll because many people voted to like her way back and have changed their minds. The poll does not afford us the luxury of retracting our votes and if you look at the popularity of votes, why are some of the favs not in the house any longer

[jet]

Thank god you are not a lawyer, lol. It isn't up to me to disprove you, you made the post and if your claims are to be believed IT IS UP TO YOU TO PROVE YOUR STATEMENT.

Its not cruel to accuse a known liar of an infidelity she is proven to be already aufaire with. As I said in my post, she has invented the bullying bit to gain an edge and as for commenting on the rest of your post, well TBH., I find it really boring repeating myself as do probably loads of other posters that have disagreed with you in the past because you keep repeating the same old same old.

BTW being condescending and smirking or laughing at another poster is baiting or at worst just plain rude.

Have you never heard of innocent until PROVEN GUILTY? I find your posts so way out that they amuse me, so, :joker:

[Achilles]

You cant use that poll because many people voted to like her way back and have changed their minds. The poll does not afford us the luxury of retracting our votes and if you look at the popularity of votes, why are some of the favs not in the house any longer

Forum popularity
Ashleigh 39%
Chris 17%
then the rest of them

[LukeB]

You cant use that poll because many people voted to like her way back and have changed their minds. The poll does not afford us the luxury of retracting our votes and if you look at the popularity of votes, why are some of the favs not in the house any longer

#saveashleigh was trending :)
and jale went....
ashleigh has loads of support :)

ashleigh is favourite to win i like to say :hehe:

ashleigh is popular and thats a fact

[LukeB]

Forum popularity
Ashleigh 39%
Chris 17%
then the rest of them

there so much proof that ashleigh is popular :hehe:
#truthhurts

[Achilles]

Desperate more like,I have animals and I'm a veggie and I cant stand her,so they better analyze that

Is it any more desperate than all the Ashleigh haters who continue to make disgusting hate threads about her?

Let's call an 18yo girl a spotty piece of trash. That's nice isn't it?

Then if someone mentions she was bullied at school, let's all just say that's BS from the spotty piece of trash. That's nice too.

[Yaki da]

Is it any more desperate than all the Ashleigh haters who continue to make disgusting hate threads about her?

Let's call an 18yo girl a spotty piece of trash. That's nice isn't it?

Then if someone mentions she was bullied at school, let's all just say that's BS from the spotty piece of trash. That's nice too.

The Ashleigh haters are without question the most vitriolic people on any forum. Their arguments are invariably flawed as well.

[jet]

Well said.

BTW by way of an experiment I have been back as far as I could go and counted how many Ashleigh lovers there are on this site.

Out of hundreds and maybe thousands of people that actually submit to this site, I can only find 23 that have positive things to say about her. That's a hell of a lot of noise from only 23 posters and more recently the most verbal, and at times vitriolic, number only 8.

I started to count those that disliked Ashleigh and I gave up when I got to over 50, so I think we can assume that Ashleigh lovers are in the minority but are the most infatic when it comes to posting.

You spend a lot of time on someone you hate. Very odd. I hate Helen but I don't post about her a fraction of what you do about Ashleigh - but you are not on your own there. :hehe:

[Marsh.]

there no one to call a bully but helen :hehe:

hehehehehehehe

[Marsh.]

people have forgotten the jealous twit tbh

:pat: Your description just gave away the fact you remember him. Aww.

[jet]

I haven't seen a single post on this forum supporting bullying ... not one :shrug:

How anyone can make a connection between support of any house mate and that making them cruel to animals, is really ridiculous. Speechless.

Did I say there were posts supporting bullying or anything about cruelty to animals? No, I did not.

[bots]

and I'm a veggie

I wont hold that against you :laugh:

[Speedster]

OH FFS, not another Asheleigh hero worship thread. Cant you just use up the other ones first. Its blocking the site up. The sheer weight and volume of hatred against her must tell you she isn't going to win and Helen is the top girl even if she didnt have a pass. Your obsession is becoming both concerning and endearing at the same time.


Just an observation. I thought you didn't approve of bad language.

[bots]

Did I say there were posts supporting bullying or anything about cruelty to animals? No, I did not.

Take a read back at the posts you quoted and agreed with

[RockBottom]

You spend a lot of time on someone you hate. Very odd. I hate Helen but I don't post about her a fraction of what you do about Ashleigh - but you are not on your own there. :hehe:

:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

[Kazanne]

Is it any more desperate than all the Ashleigh haters who continue to make disgusting hate threads about her?

Let's call an 18yo girl a spotty piece of trash. That's nice isn't it?

Then if someone mentions she was bullied at school, let's all just say that's BS from the spotty piece of trash. That's nice too.

Well I suggest you confront the people who have done that,as for the bullying,is it fact or something that was thrown in to give her the sympathy vote?whichever way,I do not like her,she has shown nothing to me which warrants me fawning all over her,some of it is so sychophantic, it's worrying that people can get so attached to a non identity,may I add it is also NOT nice to be tagged almost as an animal abuser simply because we don't idolize her,I've seen some posts on here,but that takes the biscuit.

[Kazanne]

The Ashleigh haters are without question the most vitriolic people on any forum. Their arguments are invariably flawed as well.

Examples please? and stop getting personal!

[jet]

Take a read back at the posts you quoted and agreed with

Are you referring to this?

Ashleigh loves animals. People who liked kicking and hurting animals when they were young won't like that about Ashleigh either.

The poster didn't say anyone here would have done that, but her statement could be correct for anyone who had been cruel to animals. What's the problem?

[Achilles]

Examples please? and stop getting personal!

Just look at all the comments of Ashleigh hate on forums, facebook, twitter and youtube. They all the same, full of hate and venom

Why is Ashleigh nasty if she bitches about a bully being nasty to others? Is it because they don't care about the bully being nasty? It must be people who enjoyed seeing Helen being a nasty bully, so when Ashleigh bitched about Helen, they started to hate on Ashleigh because she was bitching about their hero bully

If I bullied my niece and her friends bitched about me and said nasty things about me, would you hate on me or my niece and her friends?

If I saw my niece was in a mood and I started to bait her until she lost her temper at me, would you hate on me or my niece?

[joeysteele]

What you surprisingly overlook is that Ashleigh was badly bullied at school! Then she goes into BB and finds herself in a position of being stuck with another one for 10 weeks. For the first few weeks she watches Helen shout and scream and bully Jale, Danielle, Matthew, Chris, Christopher etc and get multiple warnings and you wonder why she stayed in the backgroud? We hardly seen Chris or Christopher either for the first few weeks.

You seem to have expected a teenager to have marched up to a loud mouthed vile bully and tackled her! After the behaviour she seen from her with others who crossed her? So what does she do - she bitches about her with her friend - completely normal for a teenager.
So during girl power she uses her intelligence to weaken the untouchable Helen's position. She tries to get Helen's bestie, Ash, up for nomination and she is happy and excited when it works. This is the Ash who laughs at Helen's name calling and eggs her on, remember. All you can say is she was being spiteful and horrible as if Helen and Ash were the 2 loveliest people in there....

She's had storylines that showed how resilient and courageous she is when BB set her up - first when they gave Kim and Helen ammunition to slate her from the morgue - second they showed the video to Helen, Kim and Jale - third she got immunity from the public and BB unexpectedly gave others the power to take it away from her. Throughout all this, she kept her cool and her dignity and took it on the chin.
As she has done when nominated - unlike Ash and Steven who moaned and whined said they didn't deserve to be up!
She conducted herself maturely and well the week she had the power.

Also remember that Chris adores her, said she was amazing and wants to spend time with her. He said last night that he couldn't wait to meet her boyfriend because 'he is a part of Ashleigh that he doesn't know'. Chris is astute and intelligent. Do you really think he would want to spend so much time around a boring, uninteresting young girl all the time even if he did fancy her (which I think is rubbish, by the way).
If you have watched the video's you would see more of Ashleigh having fun and doing other things, which is the same for all the other HM's. The editing of the HL shows have been terrible this year.

So all in all, I really can't see why you write such venom about Ashleigh while finding excuses for Helen. But each to their own. :shrug:

I am not writing venom about Ashleigh, I don't really care for her as I cannot stand 2 faced people, something someone bullied I would have thought would set out to avoid doing at all.

I have every right to put my point as to her as I see what her actions are in the house, not out of it, and I don't like what I see,I have never made a thread about Ashleigh because I don't care for her, you however cannot resist any little dig at Helen even as to her son and herself as a Mother recently.

However, those who dislike Helen have every right to say their thoughts from their perspective of watching her in the house just as everyone else can about Ashleigh too.
Ashleigh was not forced to go on BB, she applied and chose to and if she does things people find offensive, ignorant and 2 faced, she will get that criticism rightly levelled at her just as Helen's gets too.

A teenager, come on jet, Helen is hardly collossus,teenagers can say plenty with no fear at all to people older than them.
I considered myself an adult at 18, Ashleigh is also one, or are you saying she isn't.
She is also an equal housemate,so for me,in that case, if she has to have special consideration since she is 'only 18', (that old chestnut again),then no way should she be or should she have gone in the BB house at all.
It is never a picnic for anyone in the BB house and she well knew that before she went in I would dare bet.

You say did I expect a teenager to stand up against Helen,who you claim to be a bully which is to me incorrect anyway.
Yes, I would expect her to, she is on TV monitored by BB,what on earth could happen to her if she stood up to anyone, nothing at all.

If she has been bullied in life as you state, then how really sad and bad of her to then victimise Ash just to get at Helen, by attempting to wreck his chances in the series by manipulating others to make sure he stayed up for eviction.

I tell you this, if she has really been bullied in her past, then sadly she hasn't learned anything at all from that other than be nasty to others herself too.
That shouldn't inspire admiration and respect for her,it should bring out contempt in my opinion.

[LukeB]

:flutter:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuDM8MJIYAIJrYO.jpg:large

[Achilles]

:flutter:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuDM8MJIYAIJrYO.jpg:large

She used to wear braces. Bet she was bullied for wearing them too. :(

[Ellen]

I am not writing venom about Ashleigh, I don't really care for her as I cannot stand 2 faced people, something someone bullied I would have thought would set out to avoid doing at all.

I have every right to put my point as to her as I see what her actions are in the house, not out of it, and I don't like what I see,I have never made a thread about Ashleigh because I don't care for her, you however cannot resist any little dig at Helen even as to her son and herself as a Mother recently.

However, those who dislike Helen have every right to say their thoughts from their perspective of watching her in the house just as everyone else can about Ashleigh too.
Ashleigh was not forced to go on BB, she applied and chose to and if she does things people find offensive, ignorant and 2 faced, she will get that criticism rightly levelled at her just as Helen's gets too.

A teenager, come on jet, Helen is hardly collossus,teenagers can say plenty with no fear at all to people older than them.
I considered myself an adult at 18, Ashleigh is also one, or are you saying she isn't.
She is also an equal housemate,so for me,in that case, if she has to have special consideration since she is 'only 18', (that old chestnut again),then no way should she be or should she have gone in the BB house at all.
It is never a picnic for anyone in the BB house and she well knew that before she went in I would dare bet.

You say did I expect a teenager to stand up against Helen,who you claim to be a bully which is to me incorrect anyway.
Yes, I would expect her to, she is on TV monitored by BB,what on earth could happen to her if she stood up to anyone, nothing at all.

If she has been bullied in life as you state, then how really sad and bad of her to then victimise Ash just to get at Helen, by attempting to wreck his chances in the series by manipulating others to make sure he stayed up for eviction.

I tell you this, if she has really been bullied in her past, then sadly she hasn't learned anything at all from that other than be nasty to others herself too.
That shouldn't inspire admiration and respect for her,it should bring out contempt in my opinion.

Great post Joey & spot on :thumbs:

[Achilles]

I am not writing venom about Ashleigh, I don't really care for her as I cannot stand 2 faced people, something someone bullied I would have thought would set out to avoid doing at all.

I have every right to put my point as to her as I see what her actions are in the house, not out of it, and I don't like what I see,I have never made a thread about Ashleigh because I don't care for her, you however cannot resist any little dig at Helen even as to her son and herself as a Mother recently.

However, those who dislike Helen have every right to say their thoughts from their perspective of watching her in the house just as everyone else can about Ashleigh too.
Ashleigh was not forced to go on BB, she applied and chose to and if she does things people find offensive, ignorant and 2 faced, she will get that criticism rightly levelled at her just as Helen's gets too.

A teenager, come on jet, Helen is hardly collossus,teenagers can say plenty with no fear at all to people older than them.
I considered myself an adult at 18, Ashleigh is also one, or are you saying she isn't.
She is also an equal housemate,so for me,in that case, if she has to have special consideration since she is 'only 18', (that old chestnut again),then no way should she be or should she have gone in the BB house at all.
It is never a picnic for anyone in the BB house and she well knew that before she went in I would dare bet.

You say did I expect a teenager to stand up against Helen,who you claim to be a bully which is to me incorrect anyway.
Yes, I would expect her to, she is on TV monitored by BB,what on earth could happen to her if she stood up to anyone, nothing at all.

If she has been bullied in life as you state, then how really sad and bad of her to then victimise Ash just to get at Helen, by attempting to wreck his chances in the series by manipulating others to make sure he stayed up for eviction.

I tell you this, if she has really been bullied in her past, then sadly she hasn't learned anything at all from that other than be nasty to others herself too.
That shouldn't inspire admiration and respect for her,it should bring out contempt in my opinion.

Ashleigh and Ash hated each other at the start. "Victimize" Ash :facepalm: She made him a target because at that time he was one of the nasty housemates. Team Bully: Helen, Ash and the rest of the cool kids gang. We only see a fraction of what goes on in there. Only last night they edited out the part where Ash was talking about Jale in the garden. Upload he says "Jale was a twat, at the time". That was completely edited out for main highlights show. The producers are always on the side of the bully, that is why they push Helen and Ash gang and protect them. Just like they protected Conor and rewarded him with £50k when they realized they couldn't win. The producers are nasty and they support their own. Nasty housemates get a good edit, nice housemates get a bad edit.

[Johnnyuk123]

There must be some online multiplayer game where you can chop each other up with your warrior swords as you cast evil spells upon one another.:hehe:

http://www.gameguru.in/images/fury-ss1.jpg

[bots]

She used to wear braces. Bet she was bullied for wearing them too. :(

People support Ashleigh and want her to win, great - good luck to them. But please, this whole thread has contained similar stuff to this statement all along. There is no hard evidence that Ashleigh has been bullied let alone any context for it. And if she was bullied, well, she sure has recovered well from it because there is not one ounce of someone who has been brow beaten in her youth in her character.

Support Ashleigh, but please base it on reality rather than some cutesy world version of it

[Achilles]

People support Ashleigh and want her to win, great - good luck to them. But please, this whole thread has contained similar stuff to this statement all along. There is no hard evidence that Ashleigh has been bullied let alone any context for it. And if she was bullied, well, she sure has recovered well from it because there is not one ounce of someone who has been brow beaten in her youth in her character.

Support Ashleigh, but please base it on reality rather than some cutesy world version of it

When the haters base their hate on reality I might do the same

[Marsh.]

The Ashleigh haters are without question the most vitriolic people on any forum. Their arguments are invariably flawed as well.

Not as flawed as your "BB wants Ashleigh out" thread. Comedy gold that was. :joker:

[Achilles]

Not as flawed as your "BB wants Ashleigh out" thread. Comedy gold that was. :joker:

Yeah because the producers just love Ashleigh and Chris don't they? :rolleyes:

[jet]

I am not writing venom about Ashleigh, I don't really care for her as I cannot stand 2 faced people, something someone bullied I would have thought would set out to avoid doing at all.

I have every right to put my point as to her as I see what her actions are in the house, not out of it, and I don't like what I see,I have never made a thread about Ashleigh because I don't care for her, you however cannot resist any little dig at Helen even as to her son and herself as a Mother recently.

However, those who dislike Helen have every right to say their thoughts from their perspective of watching her in the house just as everyone else can about Ashleigh too.
Ashleigh was not forced to go on BB, she applied and chose to and if she does things people find offensive, ignorant and 2 faced, she will get that criticism rightly levelled at her just as Helen's gets too.

A teenager, come on jet, Helen is hardly collossus,teenagers can say plenty with no fear at all to people older than them.
I considered myself an adult at 18, Ashleigh is also one, or are you saying she isn't.
She is also an equal housemate,so for me,in that case, if she has to have special consideration since she is 'only 18', (that old chestnut again),then no way should she be or should she have gone in the BB house at all.
It is never a picnic for anyone in the BB house and she well knew that before she went in I would dare bet.

You say did I expect a teenager to stand up against Helen,who you claim to be a bully which is to me incorrect anyway.
Yes, I would expect her to, she is on TV monitored by BB,what on earth could happen to her if she stood up to anyone, nothing at all.

If she has been bullied in life as you state, then how really sad and bad of her to then victimise Ash just to get at Helen, by attempting to wreck his chances in the series by manipulating others to make sure he stayed up for eviction.

I tell you this, if she has really been bullied in her past, then sadly she hasn't learned anything at all from that other than be nasty to others herself too.
That shouldn't inspire admiration and respect for her,it should bring out contempt in my opinion.

Firstly, you must have missed the posts I made about Helen NOT being a bad mother when people were saying she was for going into the house and her son getting stick at school. I said ONE thing about feeding her son burgers and you are on it like a fly on ****.

I do not get in every little dig at Helen, believe me if I wanted to I could do what the Ashleigh detractors do and go after her non stop - there is plenty about Helen to go after her for. I dislike her so of course I will criticize her behaviour but I don't do it a fraction of the amount Ashleigh haters do with her. If you searched my posts you will find most of them are defending Ashleigh and unfair vitriol against her in threads about her and relatively few criticizing Helen.

Secondly, will you please please look up the definition of two faced. Ashleigh bitched about Helen, but did not fawn over her to her face which is NOT being two faced.

I just don't get your posts about Asheligh/Helen I'm afraid. I find them puzzling and close minded. To you she is 'spiteful and two faced' and 'she needs her roots done' and you never look beyond that. For example, I responded to your post and gave my view but you didn't even bother to respond to the points I made or discuss the content - you just picked those things you could criticize her for and ignored anything that might be positive.
I think it best if we agree to disagree and leave it there. I won't respond to you on this subject again. I know what you think of her and I really see enough hypocrisy here without reading any more.

[Achilles]

Firstly, you must have missed the posts I made about Helen NOT being a bad mother when people were saying she was for going into the house and her son getting stick at school. I said ONE thing about feeding her son burgers and you are on it like a fly on ****.

I do not get in every little dig at Helen, believe me if I wanted to I could do what the Ashleigh detractors do and go after her non stop - there is plenty about Helen to go after her for. I dislike her so of course I will criticize her behaviour but I don't do it a fraction of the amount Ashleigh haters do with her. If you searched my posts you will find most of them are defending Ashleigh and unfair vitriol against her in threads about her and relatively few criticizing Helen.

Secondly, will you please please look up the definition of two faced. Ashleigh bitched about Helen, but did not fawn over her to her face which is NOT being two faced.

I just don't get your posts about Asheligh/Helen I'm afraid. I find them puzzling and close minded. To you she is 'spiteful and two faced' and 'she needs her roots done' and you never look beyond that. For example, I responded to your post and gave my view but you didn't even bother to respond to the points I made or discuss the content - you just picked those things you could criticize her for and ignored anything that might be positive.
I think it best if we agree to disagree and leave it there. I won't respond to you on this subject again. I know what you think of her and I really see enough hypocrisy here without reading any more.

I find it amusing that even Mark knows what 2 faced means, yet so many Ashleigh haters don't.

[Yaki da]

Not as flawed as your "BB wants Ashleigh out" thread. Comedy gold that was. :joker:

Three times they put her in a vulnerable position and then even after the public voted her PH they got her up for eviction. Doesn't suggest a great liking for her to me.

And now they're trying to get Chris to "straddle her"

[Speedster]

I think making it possible for her to be up for eviction when BB expressly said she was safe by letting one evicted hm replace themselves with her was really unfair. I'm surprised she survived that.

[Marsh.]

Three times they put her in a vulnerable position and then even after the public voted her PH they got her up for eviction. Doesn't suggest a great liking for her to me.

And now they're trying to get Chris to "straddle her"

:joker:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Just an observation. I thought you didn't approve of bad language.

He doesn't approve of an 18 year old GIRL swearing, its ok for anyone else.

Kind of an ageist sexist post on how girls Ashleighs age are expected to behave.

Its just a whole load of contradictions from people who cant stand her yet spend most of their Sunday afternoon talking about her.

[Marsh.]

Yeah because the producers just love Ashleigh and Chris don't they? :rolleyes:

Where did I say that? Stick to facts my love.

[MrWong]

Well said.

BTW by way of an experiment I have been back as far as I could go and counted how many Ashleigh lovers there are on this site.

Out of hundreds and maybe thousands of people that actually submit to this site, I can only find 23 that have positive things to say about her. That's a hell of a lot of noise from only 23 posters and more recently the most verbal, and at times vitriolic, number only 8.

I started to count those that disliked Ashleigh and I gave up when I got to over 50, so I think we can assume that Ashleigh lovers are in the minority but are the most infatic when it comes to posting.

Bit of a **** experiment tbh.

Ashleigh 43.7%
Christopher 17.5%
Chris 12.3%
Winston 7.9%
Helen 6.4%
Pav 4.8%
Ash 4.7%
Mark 2.7%

Total votes: 828

[LukeB]

Bit of a **** experiment tbh.

Ashleigh 43.7%
Christopher 17.5%
Chris 12.3%
Winston 7.9%
Helen 6.4%
Pav 4.8%
Ash 4.7%
Mark 2.7%

Total votes: 828

:clap1:

[Speedster]

He doesn't approve of an 18 year old GIRL swearing, its ok for anyone else.

Kind of an ageist sexist post on how girls Ashleighs age are expected to behave.

Its just a whole load of contradictions from people who cant stand her yet spend most of their Sunday afternoon talking about her.


Spot on. Not only is it one rule for one and one rule for everybody else, it also seems to be what sex you are too, i.e men can swear, moody etc, but "nice girls" (in other words women -some- approve of) don't do things like that.

[jet]

Bit of a **** experiment tbh.

Ashleigh 43.7%
Christopher 17.5%
Chris 12.3%
Winston 7.9%
Helen 6.4%
Pav 4.8%
Ash 4.7%
Mark 2.7%

Total votes: 828

Poor Sam, sifting through hundreds and thousands of people to find Ashleigh supporters when he just had to look at a poll. :joker:

[joeysteele]

Ashleigh and Ash hated each other at the start. "Victimize" Ash :facepalm: She made him a target because at that time he was one of the nasty housemates. Team Bully: Helen, Ash and the rest of the cool kids gang. We only see a fraction of what goes on in there. Only last night they edited out the part where Ash was talking about Jale in the garden. Upload he says "Jale was a twat, at the time". That was completely edited out for main highlights show. The producers are always on the side of the bully, that is why they push Helen and Ash gang and protect them. Just like they protected Conor and rewarded him with £50k when they realized they couldn't win. The producers are nasty and they support their own. Nasty housemates get a good edit, nice housemates get a bad edit.

Really sorry Achilles but that is wrong, at the time of the all female pwer week and Ashleigh orchestrating the other women against saving Ash, Ash had not done or said anything really unpleasant at all to Ashleigh.
She only wanted to make sure Ash stayed up for eviction because she knew Helen was desperate to try to spare him that.

That I am sorry is a fact and you have said many things as an Ashleigh fan that have been balanced in many ways but I am sad you overlook that fact.
She only seized the all guys up for eviction week to use Ash to get at Helen in that particular week.

[joeysteele]

Firstly, you must have missed the posts I made about Helen NOT being a bad mother when people were saying she was for going into the house and her son getting stick at school. I said ONE thing about feeding her son burgers and you are on it like a fly on ****.

I do not get in every little dig at Helen, believe me if I wanted to I could do what the Ashleigh detractors do and go after her non stop - there is plenty about Helen to go after her for. I dislike her so of course I will criticize her behaviour but I don't do it a fraction of the amount Ashleigh haters do with her. If you searched my posts you will find most of them are defending Ashleigh and unfair vitriol against her in threads about her and relatively few criticizing Helen.

Secondly, will you please please look up the definition of two faced. Ashleigh bitched about Helen, but did not fawn over her to her face which is NOT being two faced.

I just don't get your posts about Asheligh/Helen I'm afraid. I find them puzzling and close minded. To you she is 'spiteful and two faced' and 'she needs her roots done' and you never look beyond that. For example, I responded to your post and gave my view but you didn't even bother to respond to the points I made or discuss the content - you just picked those things you could criticize her for and ignored anything that might be positive.
I think it best if we agree to disagree and leave it there. I won't respond to you on this subject again. I know what you think of her and I really see enough hypocrisy here without reading any more.

You know what, that is perfectly fine by me jet, rest assured I won't respond to your posts as to Helen or Ashleigh either.

[Kazanne]

Just look at all the comments of Ashleigh hate on forums, facebook, twitter and youtube. They all the same, full of hate and venom

Why is Ashleigh nasty if she bitches about a bully being nasty to others? Is it because they don't care about the bully being nasty? It must be people who enjoyed seeing Helen being a nasty bully, so when Ashleigh bitched about Helen, they started to hate on Ashleigh because she was bitching about their hero bully

If I bullied my niece and her friends bitched about me and said nasty things about me, would you hate on me or my niece and her friends?

If I saw my niece was in a mood and I started to bait her until she lost her temper at me, would you hate on me or my niece?

Get real,as much is said and more about Helen that is derogotary,Ashleigh is not only nasty to Helen,that is my point.No one is saying they enjoyed Helen being nasty,I do wish people would calm down and listen,I like how Helen has a soft side,a funny side and a caring side,that is something I have not seen from Ashleigh,people like Helen are more real as we all have that side to us,and as for your nieces wth,lol,I don't know them,I don't condone bullying,I'm not sure if Helen did bully anyone,BUT she was called out fo being aggresive by BB,that really should have been an end to it.

[LukeB]

all hail queen ashleigh :worship:

[Kazanne]

Really sorry Achilles but that is wrong, at the time of the all female pwer week and Ashleigh orchestrating the other women against saving Ash, Ash had not done or said anything really unpleasant at all to Ashleigh.
She only wanted to make sure Ash stayed up for eviction because she knew Helen was desperate to try to spare him that.

That I am sorry is a fact and you have said many things as an Ashleigh fan that have been balanced in many ways but I am sad you overlook that fact.
She only seized the all guys up for eviction week to use Ash to get at Helen in that particular week.

Joey telling that hurtfull truth again:cheer2:

[joeysteele]

Being 2 faced is saying unpleasantries and/or lies about someone else to someone else behind their back while never saying it to the person/s in question face.

That is exactly what Ashleigh did as to Helen for one, she was caught out doing so in the vt playbacks,something that even prompted Kimberley too to agree after she had seen and heard Ashleigh that she was the most 2 faced.

[LukeB]

Being 2 faced is saying unpleasantries and/or lies about someone else to someone else behind their back while never saying it to the person/s in question face.

That is exactly what Ashleigh did as to Helen for one, she was caught out doing so in the vt playbacks,something that even prompted Kimberley too to agree after she had seen and heard Ashleigh that she was the most 2 faced.

like helens all saint :umm2:

[MrWong]

Her mother is notorious on twitter for being pushy and the word from people in Derry that know the family say they are a bunch of fame hungry idiots.

Thank god you are not a lawyer, lol. It isn't up to me to disprove you, you made the post and if your claims are to be believed IT IS UP TO YOU TO PROVE YOUR STATEMENT.

Another poster asked you to back up your claims about Ashleigh's 'notorious mother' and you haven't yet as far as I can see.

According to yourself, you need to prove your claims.

[Marsh.]

like helens all saint :umm2:

Who said she is?

Pointing out Ashleigh is not the angel some on this forum would like does not mean anyone's saying Helen is blameless. :joker: Funny how everything always comes back to "But ____ is worse" "But what about _____". :joker:

[LukeB]

Who said she is?

Pointing out Ashleigh is not the angel some on this forum would like does not mean anyone's saying Helen is blameless. :joker: Funny how everything always comes back to "But ____ is worse" "But what about _____". :joker:

ashleigh is more of an angel then helen:hehe:

[joeysteele]

like helens all saint :umm2:

Absolutely not and I have never said she was,there are many things I dislike as to Helen.
I know she has a load of faults and things that need correcting, however for me being 2 faced is not one of those things.

I have come across the massive and distressing problems when I was at Uni that 2 faced people can cause for others,that is why I dislike intensely 2 faced people and always will.
For me that is why I parted company as to Ashleigh,once I saw her do that repeatedly in the house.

[jet]

ashleigh is more of an angel then helen:hehe:

I don't know about being an angel, but she is not 2 faced whereas Helen is as voted for by people who understand the definition.

[Yaki da]

"Two faced" is such a vacuous complaint anyway. We all wear different faces in different situations when we're with different people. We all try to get along with those we don't like to make things easier for ourselves and others, and we all say "Fine thanks" when asked if we're okay even when we want to tell the person asking to "piss off"

[jet]

"Two faced" is such a vacuous complaint anyway. We all wear different faces in different situations when we're with different people. We all try to get along with those we don't like to make things easier for ourselves and others, and we all say "Fine thanks" when asked if we're okay even when we want to tell the person asking to "piss off"

I agree. Totally vacuous. But apparently for some it's the worst thing the world (worse than bullying!) unless someone they like is doing it, and they don't even know what it means anyway.

[LukeB]

I don't know about being an angel, but she is not 2 faced whereas Helen is as voted for by people who understand the definition.

she talked about steven and denied it once caught

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Another poster asked you to back up your claims about Ashleigh's 'notorious mother' and you haven't yet as far as I can see.

According to yourself, you need to prove your claims.

Yeah that was me.

Don't even bother the proof will never come.

I cant understand why someone simply wont post a link to her mothers Twitter account especially if it backs up their argument.

[joeysteele]

I do get annoyed when called a hypocrite.
In the first weeks of this series Ashleigh was my 3rd placed housemate and Helen was my 15th out of 16.


Over the weeks watching them both, while not that impressed with eithers behaviour overall,I have warmed to Helen and cooled to Ashleigh.

Helen is now my 5th out of the 8 left and Ashleigh is my 7th.

Ashleigh is down there now with me for being 2 faced, because she has interracted with Helen as a housemate from the early days but only said really nasty and unpleasant things as to her, to others, 'behind her back'.

Until she says to Helen's face,(as Helen has mostly done with her), all the things she has said to others about her behind her back then she is 2 faced,very much so and a coward to boot too from where I am standing.

[jet]

she talked about steven and denied it once caught

Yes, not only is she two faced, she's a liar and a coward as well.

[Achilles]

I do get annoyed when called a hypocrite.
In the first weeks of this series Ashleigh was my 3rd placed housemate and Helen was my 15th out of 16.


Over the weeks watching them both, while not that impressed with eithers behaviour overall,I have warmed to Helen and cooled to Ashleigh.

Helen is now my 5th out of the 8 left and Ashleigh is my 7th.

Ashleigh is down there now with me for being 2 faced, because she has interracted with Helen as a housemate from the early days but only said really nasty and unpleasant things as to her, to others, 'behind her back'.

Until she says to Helen's face,(as Helen has mostly done with her), all the things she has said to others about her behind her back then she is 2 faced,very much so and a coward to boot too from where I am standing.

That is not what 2 faced means. 2 faced is where you act nice to their face and then the next minute you are bitching about them behind their back. 1 face = nice, 1 face= bitching. TWO FACED.
Danielle is an example of a 2 faced housemate, she would act nice to people she had just been bitching about.

[Yaki da]

Ashleigh is down there now with me for being 2 faced, because she has interracted with Helen as a housemate from the early days but only said really nasty and unpleasant things as to her, to others, 'behind her back'.

Why was Helen so perfectly aware of Ashleigh's dislike for her then? You do recall Kimberly telling Helen not to raise to Ashleigh's bait because she would only end up looking bad?

[MrWong]

Yeah that was me.

Don't even bother the proof will never come.

I cant understand why someone simply wont post a link to her mothers Twitter account especially if it backs up their argument.

Oh I can :hehe:

Why was Helen so perfectly aware of Ashleigh's dislike for her then? You do recall Kimberly telling Helen not to raise to Ashleigh's bait because she would only end up looking bad?

Good point.

[joeysteele]

That is not what 2 faced means. 2 faced is where you act nice to their face and then the next minute you are bitching about them behind their back. 1 face = nice, 1 face= bitching. TWO FACED.
Danielle is an example of a 2 faced housemate, she would act nice to people she had just been bitching about.

No. it doesn't. it means that if someone gives the impression they haven't a problem with you as was the case with Helen and Ashleigh,then if it is the case that if you have a problem with someone and spout off nastiness about them to others while they are left ignorant of it, that is being 2 faced.
When you don't tell them to their faces what you are willing to say about them behind their back.

It is a cop out to say I never liked someone while never telling them so.
Helen first learned what Ashleigh was saying about her in the vt playbacks,sorry, dress it up all you like but she was being 2 faced because she was overall indifferent to Helen on the surface but bringing her down behind her back.

People like that who spout out lies and nastiness to others about someone behind their back, can often cause loads of problems for others.
That is 2 faced,one face to the person in person and a totally different take when talking to that other person to others behind their back.

Ashleighs 2 faces were,miss sweetness and light,wouldn't say boo to a goose,then to certain others spouting out really nasty and often uncalled for comments when they couldn't hear them
Some of it can be harmless,I agree but I prefer people who tell others to their face what they think of them and not go to others behind their backs.

[joeysteele]

Why was Helen so perfectly aware of Ashleigh's dislike for her then? You do recall Kimberly telling Helen not to raise to Ashleigh's bait because she would only end up looking bad?

I think I am right but Kimberley only advised that after they had seen the vts of Ashleigh being 2 faced about Helen and others, Ashleigh had plenty to say to Steven about Kimberley,not to her, too after those vts were revealed.

[Yaki da]

I think I am right but Kimberley only advised that after they had seen the vts of Ashleigh being 2 faced about Helen and others, Ashleigh had plenty to say to Steven about Kimberley,not to her, too after those vts were revealed.

Nope, it came long before. Ashleigh had made it perfectly clear to Helen she didn't like her and Helen often commented on it. And Ash when asked who the person he detested the most in the house was, said Ashleigh. All of this was before any conversations were played back. She had made it perfectly clear to both of them that she couldn't stand them.

[joeysteele]

Nope, it came long before. Ashleigh had made it perfectly clear to Helen she didn't like her and Helen often commented on it. And Ash when asked who the person he detested the most in the house was, said Ashleigh. All of this was before any conversations were played back. She had made it perfectly clear to both of them that she couldn't stand them.

I'll take your word for that then although it doesn't register with me as that early but you seem sure of that as a 100% fact

It still doesn't excuse the things she has said to others as to Helen behind her back, rather than to her face.
As for Ash, I agree he was unpleasnt as to Ashleigh at the start,something she has clearly held against him until all her so called friends have gone.
With him not doing or saying anything unpleasant for ages now as to her.

The point is Helen only learned the real nastiness of what Ashleigh thought as to her from the vt playbacks.
Ashleigh never said a thing to Helen's face whatsoever, now she is all over Helen.
What does that say about her,I am just disappointed Helen has not seen through that too.

[Marsh.]

ashleigh is more of an angel then helen:hehe:

She's not any sort of angel.... :hehe:

[Marsh.]

I don't know about being an angel, but she is not 2 faced whereas Helen is as voted for by people who understand the definition.

The same people who stand outside on eviction nights in their tracksuits carrying cider? :joker:

[Lex]

She's not any sort of angel.... :hehe:


No!...She's a very naughty girl! :smug:

[Marsh.]

No!...She's a very naughty girl! :smug:

With Chris's cock. :smug:

[Lex]

With Chris's cock. :smug:


:blush2: Not exactly what I had in mind old bean!....I was hamfistedly trying to invoke the spirit of Monty Python into your "She's not an angel" quip....you know..."he's not the messiah,...he's a very naughty boy"!....So kindly drop the smut! :smug:

[Marsh.]

:blush2: Not exactly what I had in mind old bean!....I was hamfistedly trying to invoke the spirit of Monty Python into your "She's not an angel" quip....you know..."he's not the messiah,...he's a very naughty boy"!....So kindly drop the smut! :smug:

Like Ashleigh drops her knickers. :smug:

[Northern Monkey]

Ashleighs 2 faces were,miss sweetness and light,wouldn't say boo to a goose,then to certain others spouting out really nasty and often uncalled for comments when they couldn't hear them


No,Ashleigh was never "miss sweetness and light" to Helen before they made up after all the VT stuff,You are right in that,that would've been two faced.Ashleigh and Helen never spoke to each other and both slagged each other off to other people.That is NOT two faced.

[Yaki da]

It still doesn't excuse the things she has said to others as to Helen behind her back, rather than to her face.


Again, this Essex gangster morality of "If you've got something to say, say to it my face" is impossible to live up to in the real world, let alone a house where you're being judged for your every action, liable to be nominated (which Helen is not) and evicted, and attacked for being aggressive for doing so. It's a phoney argument to use. And if most people did try to live up to it in the real world civilization would soon collapse. People have to make the best of s situation. That will involve going off with people sometimes and having a moan and a bitch.

As for Ash, I agree he was unpleasnt as to Ashleigh at the start,something she has clearly held against him until all her so called friends have gone.
With him not doing or saying anything unpleasant for ages now as to her.

Nor has she been unpleasant to him.

The point is Helen only learned the real nastiness of what Ashleigh thought as to her from the vt playbacks. Ashleigh never said a thing to Helen's face whatsoever, now she is all over Helen.
What does that say about her,I am just disappointed Helen has not seen through that too.

It doesn't say much at all actually. It is Helen who seems to have courted Ashleigh's friendship as much as anything else. And what is it Helen is supposed to have seen through? Ashleigh didn't like her, as most of us the viewers did not like her, for good reason, but has instead tried to get along with her and done so. What is the big deal here? That she said Helen was disgusting a few times? Well, frankly, Helen's behaviour was disgusting. Hence the reason she's received 15 odd warnings and been put on a final one.