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troy4783
03-08-2014, 10:14 PM
I'm not the biggest fan of Mark and I actually like Christopher more out of the two but I think Mark had a point in there arguement and I agreed with him. I think it was wrong for Christopher to pick the person who's he's meant to be the closest too in the house and who he will possibly have a realtionship with outisde of the house as the biggest game player and the least trust worthy and loyal.

joeysteele
03-08-2014, 10:16 PM
He went too far over the top as usual but I do have to say, I really like Christopher but he must know how Mark is going to react to any hint of rejection.
Especially after the critical week Mark has had this week.

Mystic Mock
03-08-2014, 10:20 PM
I think that Christopher should've picked Winston as his a bigger gameplayer than Helen, and his close friends with Mark.

erinp5
03-08-2014, 10:21 PM
It was the all drama he caused that annoyed me more .

bots
03-08-2014, 10:21 PM
I think Christopher took what the focus group said, and then specifically went for Mark with that game player tag to make himself look stronger. It was entirely false and bore no resemblance to his previous behaviour before the focus group. Entirely premeditated by Christopher

Achilles
03-08-2014, 10:25 PM
Christopher knew how Mark would react by not choosing him for most loyal and most trustworthy and biggest game player. He knew there would be yet another row between them and that the public would take his side as he is seen as the victim. If Christopher doesn't think Mark is loyal or trustworthy and a game player then why is he allowing himself to be Mark's plaything?
At the end of the show why did he throw Mark under the bus, when he had just made up with him and said sowwy?

Lex
03-08-2014, 10:25 PM
I think Christopher took what the focus group said, and then specifically went for Mark with that game player tag to make himself look stronger. It was entirely false and bore no resemblance to his previous behaviour before the focus group. Entirely premeditated by Christopher

Yes I agree bots! :thumbs: ...Christopher was just trying to prove that he wasn't Mark's Poodle! ....But my, didn't the scouse drama-queen get some mileage out of it! :laugh:

Achilles
03-08-2014, 10:28 PM
Christopher is a journalist. You cannot be a journalist if you are Jar Jar Binks.

jet
03-08-2014, 10:47 PM
Christopher knew how Mark would react by not choosing him for most loyal and most trustworthy and biggest game player. He knew there would be yet another row between them and that the public would take his side as he is seen as the victim. If Christopher doesn't think Mark is loyal or trustworthy and a game player then why is he allowing himself to be Mark's plaything?
At the end of the show why did he throw Mark under the bus, when he had just made up with him and said sowwy?

Because he now knows Mark isn't the fave to win he thought he was and he's currying the public's favour. The last few days have really put me off him. He's getting so full of himself and he's just so darn ANNOYING.

Achilles
03-08-2014, 10:57 PM
Because he now knows Mark isn't the fave to win he thought he was and he's currying the public's favour. The last few days have really put me off him. He's getting so full of himself and he's just so darn ANNOYING.

He also plays up to the cameras but Big Brother have not shown him do this as much as they have Mark. When it was revealed that he was voted least false, he KNEW BB had not been showing much of him playing up to cameras by himself.

jegmeister
03-08-2014, 11:01 PM
I must be living in some kind of alternate reality.

Feeling sorry for Mark!! He is the biggest slimey gameplayer in there - the most camera conscious and until this week thought he had a God-given right to get to the final.

Christopher told the truth - if Mark is too insecure to deal with it, that's his problem.

VanessaFeltz.
03-08-2014, 11:31 PM
Mark deserves everything he gets, bye mark.

erinp5
03-08-2014, 11:37 PM
Mark answered that they would all write his name based on the focus group calling him a game player ,so why was he shocked when all 5 wrote his name .

troy4783
03-08-2014, 11:42 PM
Mark answered that they would all write his name based on the focus group calling him a game player ,so why was he shocked when all 5 wrote his name .He probably wanted to be proved wrong and thought the person who's he meant to be closest too in the house would think otherwise and support him.

waylander1973
03-08-2014, 11:46 PM
Mark has been over reacting to christopher for weeks and said some spiteful comments towards christopher like I would not be your friend if matthew was still here for example, I cannot believe ryan is his friend/knows him.

Christopher needs to grow a pair and dump him.

Benji_
04-08-2014, 12:08 AM
Christopher is just trying to get rid of the 'lap dog' role

Achilles
04-08-2014, 12:19 AM
Christopher is just trying to get rid of the 'lap dog' role

Why would he want to get rid of it after it has worked so well up to this point?

reece(:
04-08-2014, 12:23 AM
I'm Mark >>>>> Christopher now :shrug:

billy123
04-08-2014, 12:26 AM
They both love the drama of it all thats for sure.

CaudleHalbard
04-08-2014, 12:30 AM
Sure gets airtime! ;)

puzzled
04-08-2014, 12:33 AM
Sure gets airtime! ;)

Yes, indeed. They're both playing a game. They're as bad as each other.

VanessaFeltz.
04-08-2014, 12:34 AM
Christopher come and hug me

muchadoaboutnothing
04-08-2014, 12:37 AM
Mark, over reacting as usual - his life is all about drama, he trives it on and will make other people (regardless of who they are) look bad because he makes out he is hurt. Have we all forgot how Mark excluded Christopher from being in his team a few tasks back (Christopher was hurt by this but didn't go running to Mark asking why Mark he didn't pick him). Mark is only interested in Mark, always has and always will. I have NO pity for him and thought he was completely in the wrong.

sungrass
04-08-2014, 12:46 AM
Like someone said, C, couldn't be a journalist (or not know all about BB) if he was thick. C used Mark for airtime. Only when Mark was considered in a bad light by the public in this weeks task has C turned on him. Awful friend. A user and a LIAR

jet
04-08-2014, 12:49 AM
Like someone said, C, couldn't be a journalist (or not know all about BB) if he was thick. C used Mark for airtime. Only when Mark was considered in a bad light by the public in this weeks task has C turned on him. Awful friend. A user and a LIAR

:clap1:

rubymoo
04-08-2014, 07:31 AM
Christopher is a journalist. You cannot be a journalist if you are Jar Jar Binks.

I could definitely see the journalist in Christopher last night, and i think Christopher manipulated the situation well #moreairtime

Ellen
04-08-2014, 07:40 AM
I could definitely see the journalist in Christopher last night, and i think Christopher manipulated the situation well #moreairtime

I agree rubyroo... Mark can go ott but yes Christopher definitely manipulated the situation.

MrWong
04-08-2014, 08:43 AM
I think Christopher took what the focus group said, and then specifically went for Mark with that game player tag to make himself look stronger. It was entirely false and bore no resemblance to his previous behaviour before the focus group. Entirely premeditated by Christopher

Well said. As things stand, Christopher is the most disloyal and untrustworthy.

waterhog
04-08-2014, 08:46 AM
I'm not the biggest fan of Mark and I actually like Christopher more out of the two but I think Mark had a point in there arguement and I agreed with him. I think it was wrong for Christopher to pick the person who's he's meant to be the closest too in the house and who he will possibly have a realtionship with outisde of the house as the biggest game player and the least trust worthy and loyal.

if he no's all this - how can you be attracted to someone like this ? said all along christopher is weak.

Tip
04-08-2014, 09:26 AM
Maybe Christopher was being honest and couldn't actually vote for either of the other two over Mark.

Mark and he have a bit of a strange friendship - as someone said they are already like an old married couple with the way they carry on at each other and all the drama.

Might have been seen as dishonest if Christopher had chosen those traits for Helen or Winston.

Sure he may also have been getting revenge for the times that Mark didn't select him for teams etc. which people interpreted as snubbing him.

Their relationship has been kind of like this with the way Mark has been treated Christopher so I guess he could have been giving back some of what he's been getting.

rubymoo
04-08-2014, 09:32 AM
I think he did it to get a reaction from Mark (as it really isn't that hard!) to get more airtime, the game is definitely on, and from what i saw last night, it was Christopher who was very much in control!

bots
04-08-2014, 09:50 AM
Mark had a really tough week. I would question anyone's capability to deal with what was thrown at him this week, whether its the truth or not.

For me, Christopher took the opportunity to stick the knife in, which is pretty low given his supposed infatuation with Mark. Kicking someone when they are down is not the persona I would have expected from him given how he has been treated in the past, and from the way he talked previously.

Another hm off my list of good children when it comes to next Christmas :nono:

jet
04-08-2014, 12:42 PM
Mark had a really tough week. I would question anyone's capability to deal with what was thrown at him this week, whether its the truth or not.

For me, Christopher took the opportunity to stick the knife in, which is pretty low given his supposed infatuation with Mark. Kicking someone when they are down is not the persona I would have expected from him given how he has been treated in the past, and from the way he talked previously.

Another hm off my list of good children when it comes to next Christmas :nono:

Well said.

Same here as regards fave HM's . My already small list is shrinking rapidly.

LukeB
04-08-2014, 12:42 PM
as winstons said its only a game. mark was going ott,

VirtualWaster
04-08-2014, 03:24 PM
Dogs are sometimes known to turn on their owners, turn someone into a dog you may get bitten.

Jords
04-08-2014, 03:26 PM
I understood Mark's feelings but then I also understood Christopher's take on things (bearing the publics' remarks in mind).

jet
04-08-2014, 03:32 PM
I understood Mark's feelings but then I also understood Christopher's take on things (bearing the publics' remarks in mind).

But when they were arguing about it afterwards Christopher didn't mention that he was thinking of the public's remarks. He said he was trying to be 'fair'. Fair to who? He's a disloyal twat.

Nell_McCoy
04-08-2014, 03:49 PM
Christopher's answers were honest but cruel. I'd rather he'd been a bit cowardly and more kind in his answers regarding Mark. There is no doubt his knowledge of public perception is weighing heavily on him and opening his eyes to Mark's worst characteristics. Christopher is still in my top two but he is not just as nice as I believed.

jet
04-08-2014, 03:51 PM
Christopher's answers were honest but cruel. I'd rather he'd been a bit cowardly and more kind in his answers regarding Mark. There is no doubt his knowledge of public perception is weighing heavily on him and opening his eyes to Mark's worst characteristics. Christopher is still in my top two but he is not just as nice as I believed.

Fair points.

Achilles
04-08-2014, 03:52 PM
But when they were arguing about it afterwards Christopher didn't mention that he was thinking of the public's remarks. He said he was trying to be 'fair'. Fair to who? He's a disloyal twat.

Trying to be fair yet he voted Mark as most likely to win with Winston stood there and after hearing all the Mark bashing from the past week. I wasn't born yesterday Christopher.

jet
04-08-2014, 03:55 PM
Trying to be fair yet he voted Mark as most likely to win with Winston stood there and after hearing all the Mark bashing from the past week. I wasn't born yesterday Christopher.

:thumbs: Exactly.

hijaxers
04-08-2014, 03:57 PM
Because he now knows Mark isn't the fave to win he thought he was and he's currying the public's favour. The last few days have really put me off him. He's getting so full of himself and he's just so darn ANNOYING.

This ! Christopher as driven me nuts since the forum thing - he has obviously thought Mark was gonna win - talkabout a complete turnaround - i dislike him intensely now - he's behaved like a complete twat

Sophiee
04-08-2014, 04:23 PM
I actually was thinking the very same thing. I could totally see where mark was coming from and it does seem strange if christopher really does think all this negative stuff about him yet keeps going back for more and thinks he could possibly be in a relationship with him, it doesn't make sense. seeing as they are the closest mark would most likely feel quite betrayed and upset. mark just doesn't put his point forward well at all, christopher is good at explaining and defence, even though his comeback actually had nothing to do with their argument it still sounded good :laugh:.

Achilles
04-08-2014, 04:28 PM
I actually was thinking the very same thing. I could totally see where mark was coming from and it does seem strange if christopher really does think all this negative stuff about him yet keeps going back for more and thinks he could possibly be in a relationship with him, it doesn't make sense. seeing as they are the closest mark would most likely feel quite betrayed and upset. mark just doesn't put his point forward well at all, christopher is good at explaining and defence, even though his comeback actually had nothing to do with their argument it still sounded good :laugh:.

It makes perfect sense if Christopher is using Mark in order to get sympathy. As well as getting sympathy for himself it turns the public against Mark. Before they began their "relationship" Mark was the favourite to win. Not now.

Sophiee
04-08-2014, 05:56 PM
It makes perfect sense if Christopher is using Mark in order to get sympathy. As well as getting sympathy for himself it turns the public against Mark. Before they began their "relationship" Mark was the favourite to win. Not now.
christopher doesn't come across as that sort of person though, I actually think he's the most genuine one in there and he's always had a lot of time for mark. I don't think he'd do anything with bad intentions.

Achilles
04-08-2014, 06:04 PM
christopher doesn't come across as that sort of person though, I actually think he's the most genuine one in there and he's always had a lot of time for mark. I don't think he'd do anything with bad intentions.

If he DID come across as that type of person it would mean his game plan was failing miserably. Can only work if you convince people.
If he has a lot of time for Mark why did he not choose him as most loyal and most trustworthy? What was the motive for it?

Sophiee
04-08-2014, 07:24 PM
If he DID come across as that type of person it would mean his game plan was failing miserably. Can only work if you convince people.
If he has a lot of time for Mark why did he not choose him as most loyal and most trustworthy? What was the motive for it?
true but I just don't think he has a gameplan. so mark had gotten cheers in the past, but so had he and he'd been surviving every eviction. it was only the housemates that assumed mark was favourite to win, there was no evidence of such thing.
I don't honestly know and I don't think he did either but he realized he made a mistake afterwards by not choosing him, which is why he didn't give an explanation for it to mark.