Christopher is despicable...

[jet]

What a s*** he is turning out to be. What he did to Mark in that task was despicable. What feelings does he have for him, to hurt him that way? I know Ash voted Winston as the most attractive but he did that for a laugh to rile Helen.
The way he behaved pulling his creepy flirty faces when Mark was tackling him was nauseating.
Then he goes and talks behind Mark's back in the garden after they supposedly made up. The two faced prat. He is getting so full of himself.
He was all over Mark when he thought he was going to win, and now he's agreeing with the public's perception of Mark to get brownie points. I can't stand him anymore.

I don't like Helen, but I'll give her this - she is loyal to her friends. She did well tonight sticking up for Mark, so good on her. Christopher is a *unt.

[Achilles]

The majority will disagree with you because St Christopher has managed to convince everyone that he is a lovely genuine guy and forever the victim. His game plan is basically to be a cross between Jar Jar Binks and Verbal Kint.

[Mystic Mock]

Mark might have to whip him again like he did during that task last week.

[Lex]

I see the knives are being wielded by the Ashleigh fans tonight....Christopher and Winston are in for it from now until the end!....because they are a threat to their little China Doll's prospects of winning the show! :laugh: ....pssst!...Concentrate more on Winston!...but it will be futile, because he already has it in the bag!...there's a lot more girl voters that are only looking as deep as his prettiness than China-Doll fans...no matter how many threads you make! lol. :bawling:

[Kizzy]

But he's right ... mark is a gameplayer, and he isn't the most loyal in the house.
Why just because they have this over dramatised faux romance going on does christopher have to explain his reasoning to mark?

Mark is totally self obsessed, it's so exhausting listening to him drone on about how he 'feels' all the time.

[joeysteele]

I see the knives are being wielded by the Ashleigh fans tonight....Christopher and Winston are in for it from now until the end!....because they are a threat to their little China Doll's prospects of winning the show! :laugh: ....pssst!...Concentrate more on Winston!...but it will be futile, because he already has it in the bag!...there's a lot more girl voters that are only looking as deep as his prettiness than China-Doll fans...no matter how many threads you make! lol. :bawling:

The good thing is, those who dislike the housemates you mention,and I agree with what you said in your post,can do little in the final.
The vote then will be vote to win, not evict so only the people who like the housemates will be able to influence that result.

[CaudleHalbard]

Christopher is about the only housemate in there that I would want to spend any time with. I could probably tolerate Winston for a while.

The rest can go and jump in the lake! :D

[Achilles]

I see the knives are being wielded by the Ashleigh fans tonight....Christopher and Winston are in for it from now until the end!....because they are a threat to their little China Doll's prospects of winning the show! :laugh: ....pssst!...Concentrate more on Winston!...but it will be futile, because he already has it in the bag!...there's a lot more girl voters that are only looking as deep as his prettiness than China-Doll fans...no matter how many threads you make! lol. :bawling:

I think Winston is a bigger threat than Christopher, but I won't "get the knives out" on him if he doesn't deserve it. I am not interested in using the same underhanded tactics as Christopher. I'm just saying what I see from uploads and highlights shows. Christopher is not the genuine guy people think he is. Hoodwinked is the word.

[Rageofangels]

Which lake would that be?

[bots]

i couldn't cope with Christopher, would be way to much like hard work to keep him happy and Winston only appears when there is a rainbow, so it would be a pretty lonely house :laugh:

[jegmeister]

Complete overreaction and a desperate attempt to ruin Christopher's chances of winning the show.

Mark IS the biggest game player in the house - he's just telling the truth. If Mark doesn't like the truth, then he shouldn't be in there.

[Mystic Mock]

I see the knives are being wielded by the Ashleigh fans tonight....Christopher and Winston are in for it from now until the end!....because they are a threat to their little China Doll's prospects of winning the show! :laugh: ....pssst!...Concentrate more on Winston!...but it will be futile, because he already has it in the bag!...there's a lot more girl voters that are only looking as deep as his prettiness than China-Doll fans...no matter how many threads you make! lol. :bawling:

Winston was a prick to Helen tonight though Lex, he was deliberately winding her up to snap at him.

At least he was visible tonight though.

[jet]

I see the knives are being wielded by the Ashleigh fans tonight....Christopher and Winston are in for it from now until the end!....because they are a threat to their little China Doll's prospects of winning the show! :laugh: ....pssst!...Concentrate more on Winston!...but it will be futile, because he already has it in the bag!...there's a lot more girl voters that are only looking as deep as his prettiness than China-Doll fans...no matter how many threads you make! lol. :bawling:

This thread has nothing whatsoever to do with Ashleigh...could you leave your obsession at the door for once.
It is about Christopher and Mark and how bloody angry I was at how Christopher hurt him tonight. And I like Winston and have nothing bad to say about him so your post is just a lot of the usual immature crap that gets spouted around here. Stick to the topic and don't be tiresome.

[Achilles]

Complete overreaction and a desperate attempt to ruin Christopher's chances of winning the show.

Mark IS the biggest game player in the house - he's just telling the truth. If Mark doesn't like the truth, then he shouldn't be in there.

Mark isn't a devious game player. He's just an annoying Ewok. He plays up to the cameras, but we all know he is playing up to the cameras. He is not fooling or attempting to fool anyone. He is just being himself, a cartoon character. So you either like him or don't like him. There is no ? about him. It's a simple "do I like Mark or do I not like Mark?".

[Lex]

Winston was a prick to Helen tonight though Lex, he was deliberately winding her up to snap at him.

At least he was visible tonight though.


Yes I know Mockinator!...I'm no Plastic-Winston fan...but just acknowledging that he has the winning game!
I'd much prefer Helen to win out of the two of them...but I am a realist!...Winston's got it! :shrug:

[Mystic Mock]

Yes I know Mockinator!...I'm no Plastic-Winston fan...but just acknowledging that he has the winning game!
I'd much prefer Helen to win out of the two of them...but I am a realist!...Winston's got it! :shrug:

I know it's a sad fact indeed.

[Lex]

Complete overreaction and a desperate attempt to ruin Christopher's chances of winning the show.

Mark IS the biggest game player in the house - he's just telling the truth. If Mark doesn't like the truth, then he shouldn't be in there.

Spot on! :thumbs:

This thread has nothing whatsoever to do with Ashleigh...could you leave your obsession at the door for once.
It is about Christopher and Mark and how bloody angry I was at how Christopher hurt him tonight. And I like Winston and have nothing bad to say about him so your post is just a lot of the usual immature crap that gets spouted around here. Stick to the topic and don't be tiresome.

Do you write professional comedy scripts...or are you doing this for fun?? :joker:

I think Winston is a bigger threat than Christopher, but I won't "get the knives out" on him if he doesn't deserve it. I am not interested in using the same underhanded tactics as Christopher. I'm just saying what I see from uploads and highlights shows. Christopher is not the genuine guy people think he is. Hoodwinked is the word.

You're either just trying to wind me up Achilles....or you are a really poor judge of character! :conf:
...anyway, it's bed time for us old guys....so use the time to contemplate your weak discernment skills! :nono:

Night night.

[Yaki da]

Did the blandest housemate of the year do something interesting tonight? Oh no. He accused Mark of being the biggest gameplayer. So, bland and disloyal.

[Achilles]

You're either just trying to wind me up Achilles....or you are a really poor judge of character! :conf:
...anyway, it's bed time for us old guys....so use the time to contemplate your weak discernment skills! :nono:

Night night.

Do you watch every highlights show and every upload and read all the twitter comments etc?

When I saw Jale return from the garden using Helen's lipstick thing, looking straight at Helen whilst walking towards her I knew Jale was using the game plan of going for the sympathy vote. It was obvious. Helen reacts and Jale acts all innocent and offended and gets sympathy from the public. Eventually Jale dropped this game plan and got settled in with the cool kids where she turned her back on Marlon, her "friend".
Toya had a conversation very early on TO Jale about Christopher, saying he had a game plan. Jale dismissed what Toya was saying. Jale and Christopher have used the same game plan, the only difference is that Christopher has been better at it and has not dropped it like Jale did. Christopher is also not as nasty a person as Jale, so he is able to keep up the charade much better.

[jet]

Did the blandest housemate of the year do something interesting tonight? Oh no. He accused Mark of being the biggest gameplayer. So, bland and disloyal.

I thought he was nice and I liked him when he kept a lower profile (or wasn't being shown much in the edits) and didn't understand why most of the HM's found him so annoying. Now I know. In the last few HL shows he hasn't shut up and he drones on and on and on.
He's discovered Mark isn't fave to win like they all thought he was and he thinks the public will like him for thinking about Mark like they do. He threw Mark under the bus and the public aren't stupid. His popularity will drop after tonight.

[sungrass]

What a s*** he is turning out to be. What he did to Mark in that task was despicable. What feelings does he have for him, to hurt him that way? I know Ash voted Winston as the most attractive but he did that for a laugh to rile Helen.
The way he behaved pulling his creepy flirty faces when Mark was tackling him was nauseating.
Then he goes and talks behind Mark's back in the garden after they supposedly made up. The two faced prat. He is getting so full of himself.
He was all over Mark when he thought he was going to win, and now he's agreeing with the public's perception of Mark to get brownie points. I can't stand him anymore.

I don't like Helen, but I'll give her this - she is loyal to her friends. She did well tonight sticking up for Mark, so good on her. Christopher is a *unt.

THANK YOU.
someone has finally noticed

Its been pretty sick to watch this play out
C acting all "I wont take any **** from anyone believe you me"
in that droning voice. He has *pretended to be Marks friend "lets see how it goes on the outside" he is really nobody's friend but to himself.

[sungrass]

I see the knives are being wielded by the Ashleigh fans tonight....Christopher and Winston are in for it from now until the end!....because they are a threat to their little China Doll's prospects of winning the show! :laugh: ....pssst!...Concentrate more on Winston!...but it will be futile, because he already has it in the bag!...there's a lot more girl voters that are only looking as deep as his prettiness than China-Doll fans...no matter how many threads you make! lol. :bawling:

I have no idea what your talking about, I don't mean to sound unfriendly or anything - I happen to not decide who I want to win until the final night. :wavey:

[Rob!]

To be honest, I don't get why Mark kicked off the way he did - he voted for 5 people to have said he was the biggest game player and that's exactly what happened. :shrug:
For what it's worth, the argument they had was the most real both of them have been throughout, and I think Christopher is the most genuine in there.

[JTM45]

I don't really see what Christopher did that was soooooo wrong!
Nobody else was taking it that seriously and he just did the same. They were trying to answer the same way as Mark, Helen and Winston would and not necessarily exactly what they thought. It wasn't a declaration task or anything!
The only reason Mark got so uppity about it was because he's on a massive "clear my name - Damage Limitation" drive after so much truth got handed to him this week. After the way Mark's treated Christopher you can hardly expect him to answer everything in a super arse-licky way. And Mark IS a massive gameplayer so why is Christopher getting stick for saying it! :bored:

And i'm an Ashleigh supporter so this bullsh*t about her supporters trying to take Christopher out because he's competition for her is just that........BULLSH*T!!!

[jet]

I have no idea what your talking about, I don't mean to sound unfriendly or anything - I happen to not decide who I want to win until the final night. :wavey:

It's an Ashleigh obsession. The poster you quoted thinks everything an Ashleigh fan (like me) posts is just tactical and always to do with pushing her for the win. If you say you dislike something a HM has done, it's not because you really dislike it, it's just to bring them down because they might be a threat to Ashleigh.
It can't have anything to do with just being angry at a HM's behaviour or not liking seeing someone being hurt etc. You can't have a negative opinion on anyone else without it being all about Ashleigh.
It immature and tiresome but lots of people do it or agree with those who do. Pathetic really.

[Achilles]

I don't really see what Christopher did that was soooooo wrong!
Nobody else was taking it that seriously and he just did the same. They were trying to answer the same way as Mark, Helen and Winston would and not necessarily exactly what they thought. It wasn't a declaration task or anything!
The only reason Mark got so uppity about it was because he's on a massive "clear my name - Damage Limitation" drive after so much truth got handed to him this week. After the way Mark's treated Christopher you can hardly expect him to answer everything in a super arse-licky way. And Mark IS a massive gameplayer so why is Christopher getting stick for saying it! :bored:

And i'm an Ashleigh supporter so this bullsh*t about her supporters trying to take Christopher out because he's competition for her is just that........BULLSH*T!!!

Mark is a game player, but his game plan is obvious. Play up to the cameras and be an exaggerated version of himself. He is annoying a lot of the time, but he is also funny a lot of the time.
Christopher's game plan is different. It's all about playing the victim and creating sympathy. The reason he has spent so much time with Mark and allowed Mark to treat him badly is because he knows the public will feel sorry for him. If he was really that bothered by how Mark treats him, he would drop him. He is not bothered, because Mark treating him badly is what Christopher wants otherwise there is no sympathy for him is there?
The housemates have found him annoying since the start. Being annoying will get housemates to dislike you and you become the underdog and get sympathy from the public. Everything Christopher does in the house revolves around him getting sympathy. If you watch his VT you don't see the Jar Jar Binks character he has been in the house. Day 2 he said to Ashleigh on the wee tea upload "let's play the game". Out of the 7 originals, 4 have game plans and 3 are just being themselves. 2 of the 4 with game plans have obvious game plans and the other 2 have more calculated game plans. I am not going to say which are which because everyone knows if they think it through.

[jet]

I don't really see what Christopher did that was soooooo wrong!
Nobody else was taking it that seriously and he just did the same. They were trying to answer the same way as Mark, Helen and Winston would and not necessarily exactly what they thought. It wasn't a declaration task or anything!
The only reason Mark got so uppity about it was because he's on a massive "clear my name - Damage Limitation" drive after so much truth got handed to him this week. After the way Mark's treated Christopher you can hardly expect him to answer everything in a super arse-licky way. And Mark IS a massive gameplayer so why is Christopher getting stick for saying it! :bored:

And i'm an Ashleigh supporter so this bullsh*t about her supporters trying to take Christopher out because he's competition for her is just that........BULLSH*T!!!

It didn't really work out like that though. C had voted Mark as not the most loyal. Mark fully expected C to vote him most trustworthy when he held up his card with the Number 1 on it (one person) and he had drawn a heart on it as well. He fully expected C to have voted for him for that - that is when it seemed he got really hurt.

He put 5 people on the card for game player because he was annoyed with C and also bearing in mind the focus group but after he had held up the card with the heart and got shot down I don't think it entered his mind C would really vote him biggest game player.
Imo it was cruel of C not to try to boost him after the week he had had when he knew very well that Mark was feeling down about it. Really cruel considering they were closest to each other in the house.

I now think C has been using Mark to get airtime and sympathy. Before his thing with Mark, he wasn't in the picture at all.

[smudgie]

I really think Mark and Christopher are one person cut in two, carbon copies of each other personality wise.

Especially those moaning droning flippin' voices.

[Yaki da]

"Aww, Christopher, I feel so sorry for him"

Whenever I see this, I feel like throwing up. And yet there's not a video on youtube or a thread on Digital Spy that doesn't have some variant on this theme. It's nauseating.

[waylander1973]

Christopher had every right to say that mark's a gameplayer look how acts on the show makes a drama out of everything and needs housemates to give him attention in general, as for disloyally mark has run down christopher will some awful comments like I wouldn't be your friend if matthew was still here.

Mark is the nasty one of the two.

[Achilles]

Christopher had every right to say that mark's a gameplayer look how acts on the show makes a drama out of everything and needs housemates to give him attention in general, as for disloyally mark has run down christopher will some awful comments like I wouldn't be your friend if matthew was still here.

Mark is the nasty one of the two.

If Christopher thinks Mark is a game player, isn't loyal and isn't trustworthy, why is he still with him? Why does he keep allowing Mark to be horrible to him?

[Kizzy]

Christopher has learnt to pick his battles with mark so mark has to 'invent' drama.

[jet]

People can twist it any way they like, but Mark and Christopher are partners in the house and talked about going on dates outside. No matter what, Christopher should have shown him some loyalty and respect both in the task and in the garden afterwards, when he was slagging off Mark to Chris about 'the stupid tealeaf thing' and the 'stupid comments he makes'!!! With friends like Christopher, who needs enemies. What an asshole.

[billy123]

I dont mind him he isnt brilliant but he is hardly an offensive character.

[waylander1973]

If Christopher thinks Mark is a game player, isn't loyal and isn't trustworthy, why is he still with him? Why does he keep allowing Mark to be horrible to him?

I wish I KNEW, if somebody treated me like that, I would tell that person to get lost if I was in the house even if would get me nominated as a result, this is criticism of christopher which I will not defend.

[CaudleHalbard]

I think the problem may be that Christopher is actually enjoying the attention on some level, albeit through gritted teeth at times......

[waylander1973]

I swear this is like the kim and steven relationship.

[Achilles]

I wish I KNEW, if somebody treated me like that, I would tell that person to get lost if I was in the house even if would get me nominated as a result, this is criticism of christopher which I will not defend.

If he allows Mark to be horrible to him he gets sympathy from the public. If he dropped Mark weeks ago, he would not get any sympathy from the public.

[jet]

If Christopher thinks Mark is a game player, isn't loyal and isn't trustworthy, why is he still with him? Why does he keep allowing Mark to be horrible to him?

We know the answer, don't we? Without that, Christopher would have no story line, no air time. He loves it. He encouraged it.
Since he realized Mark wasn't the public's fave after all, he has become much more assertive with him as it doesn't suit him to be seen as Mark's play thing any more. Now it's all "I'm not going to be treated like that!" and agreeing with the public's opinion of him.
He's a disloyal asshole and he's despicable. And to think he was a big fave of mine until 2 days ago. He had the wool pulled over my eyes alright.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Oh my goodness - what about the times Mark left christopher out of choosing him to be in his team. We have short memories peoples. That was sweet revenge for christopher and I loved it.

[Yaki da]

Mark and Christopher are both arseholes. I don't know why one is unpopular whilst the other isn't. No surprise though that the "victim" of the two garners such support.

[jet]

Oh my goodness - what about the times Mark left christopher out of choosing him to be in his team. We have short memories peoples. That was sweet revenge for christopher and I loved it.

There's a huge difference between that and calling your partner and closest friend in the house disloyal, untrustworthy and a game player.

[waylander1973]

If he allows Mark to be horrible to him he gets sympathy from the public. If he dropped Mark weeks ago, he would not get any sympathy from the public.

Well that your's view which you are every right to have.

Personally I hope the relationship blows up on monday when mark noms christopher. I CAN'T stand it.

[MrWong]

Mark isn't a devious game player. He's just an annoying Ewok. He plays up to the cameras, but we all know he is playing up to the cameras. He is not fooling or attempting to fool anyone. He is just being himself, a cartoon character. So you either like him or don't like him. There is no ? about him. It's a simple "do I like Mark or do I not like Mark?".

I don't like Mark but that doesn't mean that Christopher was correct in what he did.

If he doesn't think Mark is loyal and trustworthy why the **** is he pursuing a relationship with him in the house? For air time most probably because he was under the illusion that Mark was the winner, until the focus group task that is and that's why he's now thrown him under the bus.

[Vladimir]

If he allows Mark to be horrible to him he gets sympathy from the public. If he dropped Mark weeks ago, he would not get any sympathy from the public.

So true!

Mark >>> Christopher

I know that Mark is seen as fake but at least he's really funny sometimes unlike Christopher who's just annoying.

[waterhog]

disagree - if you no someone is fake they can not be funny as you no its fake - thats why i never wasted my time with either of them and i new from day dot that christopher is so weak its embarrassing.

[odd sock]

I don't really see what Christopher did that was soooooo wrong!
Nobody else was taking it that seriously and he just did the same. They were trying to answer the same way as Mark, Helen and Winston would and not necessarily exactly what they thought. It wasn't a declaration task or anything!
The only reason Mark got so uppity about it was because he's on a massive "clear my name - Damage Limitation" drive after so much truth got handed to him this week. After the way Mark's treated Christopher you can hardly expect him to answer everything in a super arse-licky way. And Mark IS a massive gameplayer so why is Christopher getting stick for saying it! :bored:

And i'm an Ashleigh supporter so this bullsh*t about her supporters trying to take Christopher out because he's competition for her is just that........BULLSH*T!!!
spot on :clap1::clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Daffodil]

Christopher is about the only housemate in there that I would want to spend any time with. I could probably tolerate Winston for a while.

The rest can go and jump in the lake! :D

:clap1: halleluyia!!!

[Nell_McCoy]

Christopher is still my number 2 but I like him a bit less now, he is obviously well versed in pretending to be someone he's not. His accent is absolutely unnatural for the son of a dairy farmer from Fermanagh, it is a posh, South Belfast (Cherry Velly) accent and anyone from Northern Ireland will know this. I still hope he comes 2nd though as the rest of them are worse than him.

[rocket]

But he's right ... mark is a gameplayer, and he isn't the most loyal in the house.
Why just because they have this over dramatised faux romance going on does christopher have to explain his reasoning to mark?

Mark is totally self obsessed, it's so exhausting listening to him drone on about how he 'feels' all the time.

Totally correct...
It's unbelievable how everyone has blamed Christopher, Mark himself predicted he was the biggest game player, then when Christopher agrees he's knocked down for it by all and sundry..if Christopher had disagreed Mark would have lost ..I'm afraid Christopher was in a no win situation...
People forget how bad Mark treated Christopher when he didn't pick to be on his dancing team , then he didn't pick him to go to the party...how do you all think Christopher felt then...awful...but because he didn't cause a stink you all forget.:nono:

I really hope Christopher wins ...

[Dollface]

I don't really understand why Christopher didn't choose Mark for most trust-worthy etc. :huh:
But i imagine when Mark didn't choose Christopher to be on his team during the Bruvstock task (and then didn't even consider picking him for the reward) Christopher probably felt really let down.

[jet]

Totally correct...
It's unbelievable how everyone has blamed Christopher, Mark himself predicted he was the biggest game player, then when Christopher agrees he's knocked down for it by all and sundry..if Christopher had disagreed Mark would have lost ..I'm afraid Christopher was in a no win situation...
People forget how bad Mark treated Christopher when he didn't pick to be on his dancing team , then he didn't pick him to go to the party...how do you all think Christopher felt then...awful...but because he didn't cause a stink you all forget.:nono:

I really hope Christopher wins ...

That was earlier on in the relationship - and is hardly on a par to finding out that your partner/friend in the house doesn't think much of you and has no affection or loyalty for you.
Mark had held up his card for the 'most trustworthy' with the number 1 for 1 person and a heart drawn on it and smiled at Christopher, he was so sure he would pick him. When he didn't, that was the moment Mark was hurt and probably embarrassed and it was cruel for CH to then go on and stick the knife in by voting him the biggest gameplayer as well, whether it would help Mark win or not.
It was so insensitive, or even worse, geared to annoy Mark and curry favour with the public now he knows Mark isn't popular. Then they later make up and CH goes and slags him off behind his back to Chris.
Since the focus group said CH was ruining his chances by being with Mark and the revelation he isn't popular as he thought, he has really changed towards him.