Ashleigh and Helen row

[erinp5]

Ashleigh Coyle and Helen Wood face off against one another in tonight’s Big Brother UK in a row over fags.



Following the face to face nominations, Christopher admits he found Pav’s bracelet, which he has been wearing, on the floor and Helen accuses him of being the cigarette stealer.

Christopher doesn’t take well to being called a thief and is supported by Ashleigh but Helen remarks, ”I can’t be a***d with ******ing Judge Judy’s”

Ashleigh vents to Big Brother that she’s annoyed by the Helen and Christopher’s argument.

She takes offence to Helen’s Judge Judy comment and complains: “I don’t really think I’m Judge Judy.



“I actually just think I’m moral and normal and don’t start randomly accusing people of stealing things”

Meanwhile, Helen bitches to Mark that “I was actually having a joke about the cigarette thing and Ashleigh was sniping and sniping and sniping away”

Helen, of all people, claims that Ashleigh “knows she can get away with murder” with the ways she speaks

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[Headie]

Doesn't sound like a row to me. This will make Ashleigh more popular tho

[Mystic Mock]

Yes! the feud is back.

[Kazanne]

So Ashleigh vented to BB,LOL that figures

[Yaki da]

So Ashleigh vented to BB,LOL that figures

After defending Christopher to Helen. Yes. And whilst Helen bitches to Mark

Ashleigh haters leaving out the bits they don't like, creating another fantasy world again :laugh:

[Achilles]

So Ashleigh vented to BB,LOL that figures

Funny how when friends, Ashleigh and Christopher have a tiff everyone hates on Ashleigh, but when she defends her friend, everyone still hates on Ashleigh.

[Josy]

That's not a row...

[Kazanne]

After defending Christopher to Helen. Yes. And whilst Helen bitches to Mark

Ashleigh haters leaving out the bits they don't like, creating another fantasy world again :laugh:

:sleep::sleep::sleep:

[Kazanne]

Funny how when friends, Ashleigh and Christopher have a tiff everyone hates on Ashleigh, but when she defends her friend, everyone still hates on Ashleigh.

:sleep::sleep::sleep:

[Kazanne]

Funny how when friends, Ashleigh and Christopher have a tiff everyone hates on Ashleigh, but when she defends her friend, everyone still hates on Ashleigh.

Who has mentioned hate? stop being so dramatic

[sampvt]

You know what happens to anyone locked up who grasses. hey ho and it shower time with the big bad wolf. Didn't expect less from the whinging little sh.t. She thinks BB will protect her now, FFS girl, grow up and face your own demons instead of whining.

[Brother Leon]

"Helen, of all people, claims that Ashleigh “knows she can get away with murder” with the ways she speaks"

Very true. This was proven by the way she spoke to Christopher, but because she's a blonde 18 year old girl it's considered ok and took lightly.

[Niamh.]

You know what happens to anyone locked up who grasses. hey ho and it shower time with the big bad wolf. Didn't expect less from the whinging little sh.t. She thinks BB will protect her now, FFS girl, grow up and face your own demons instead of whining.

What on Earth are you talking about, who grassed on who now?

[sampvt]

What on Earth are you talking about, who grassed on who now?

I thought she went whinging into the DR about Helen. Maybe I was wrong, just looking and observing.

[chuff me dizzy]

Ashleigh Coyle and Helen Wood face off against one another in tonight’s Big Brother UK in a row over fags.



Following the face to face nominations, Christopher admits he found Pav’s bracelet, which he has been wearing, on the floor and Helen accuses him of being the cigarette stealer.

Christopher doesn’t take well to being called a thief and is supported by Ashleigh but Helen remarks, ”I can’t be a***d with ******ing Judge Judy’s”

Ashleigh vents to Big Brother that she’s annoyed by the Helen and Christopher’s argument.

She takes offence to Helen’s Judge Judy comment and complains: “I don’t really think I’m Judge Judy.



“I actually just think I’m moral and normal and don’t start randomly accusing people of stealing things”

Meanwhile, Helen bitches to Mark that “I was actually having a joke about the cigarette thing and Ashleigh was sniping and sniping and sniping away”

Helen, of all people, claims that Ashleigh “knows she can get away with murder” with the ways she speaks

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So once again ALL said behind Helens back ,Miss Rufty Tufty really is a coward isn't she ? :dog: run to the diary room dogface

[Kazanne]

I thought she went whinging into the DR about Helen. Maybe I was wrong, just looking and observing.

She did Sam,but you're not allowed to say that,you must say,she verbally assassinated Helen,and told her face to face:joker::joker:

[Niamh.]

I thought she went whinging into the DR about Helen. Maybe I was wrong, just looking and observing.

How is that grassing on someone though? Talking in the Diaryroom is part of the show as far as I'm aware and most likely she was probably called there and asked what went on :shrug:

[Mystic Mock]

"Helen, of all people, claims that Ashleigh “knows she can get away with murder” with the ways she speaks"

Very true. This was proven by the way she spoke to Christopher, but because she's a blonde 18 year old girl it's considered ok and took lightly.

I'm still surprised at Ashleigh last night in the Diary Room saying that Helen can still get quite aggressive (which is true) but I thought that she would be more understanding that people say silly things in arguments after Ashleigh wanted to “smash Christopher's face through a ****ing mirror” and “does he want me to come after him?” I mean Helen has not even come close to the first comment in particular yet Ashleigh still tries to take a moral high ground over Helen on how they argue.

I like Ashleigh btw but if she looked like Jale or had Helen's past she would not have got away with those comments so lightly, but I'm mainly disappointed in Ashleigh for her blatent hypocrisy.

[Marsh.]

Ashleigh and Helen row

Ashleigh vents to Big Brother

:joker: :joker: :joker: :joker:

[jet]

Funny how when friends, Ashleigh and Christopher have a tiff everyone hates on Ashleigh, but when she defends her friend, everyone still hates on Ashleigh.

:clap1: Ain't that the truth.

[Yaki da]

So once again ALL said behind Helens back ,Miss Rufty Tufty really is a coward isn't she ? :dog: run to the diary room dogface

Hmmm

"Meanwhile, Helen bitches to Mark that “I was actually having a joke about the cigarette thing and Ashleigh was sniping and sniping and sniping away”

Helen, of all people, claims that Ashleigh “knows she can get away with murder” with the ways she speaks"

So she was saying things to Helen's face. Her diary room entry took place whilst Helen was bitching about her as well.

[Marsh.]

I'm still surprised at Ashleigh last night in the Diary Room saying that Helen can still get quite aggressive (which is true) but I thought that she would be more understanding that people say silly things in arguments after Ashleigh wanted to “smash Christopher's face through a ****ing mirror” and “does he want me to come after him?” I mean Helen has not even come close to the first comment in particular yet Ashleigh still tries to take a moral high ground over Helen on how they argue.

I like Ashleigh btw but if she looked like Jale or had Helen's past she would not have got away with those comments so lightly, but I'm mainly disappointed in Ashleigh for her blatent hypocrisy.

:clap1:

[Achilles]

The only housemate in there who knows they can get away with murder is Helen. She is IMMUNE and can do whatever the F she likes.

[chuff me dizzy]

Hmmm

"Meanwhile, Helen bitches to Mark that “I was actually having a joke about the cigarette thing and Ashleigh was sniping and sniping and sniping away”

Helen, of all people, claims that Ashleigh “knows she can get away with murder” with the ways she speaks"

So she was saying things to Helen's face. Her diary room entry took place whilst Helen was bitching about her as well.

Did Ashleigh have her say to Helens FACE ? Yes or no

[Yaki da]

I like Ashleigh btw but if she looked like Jale or had Helen's past she would not have got away with those comments so lightly, but I'm mainly disappointed in Ashleigh for her blatent hypocrisy.

What do you mean Helen's past? Ashleigh's from a council estate and Helen's from a leafy suburb.

[Kazanne]

I'm still surprised at Ashleigh last night in the Diary Room saying that Helen can still get quite aggressive (which is true) but I thought that she would be more understanding that people say silly things in arguments after Ashleigh wanted to “smash Christopher's face through a ****ing mirror” and “does he want me to come after him?” I mean Helen has not even come close to the first comment in particular yet Ashleigh still tries to take a moral high ground over Helen on how they argue.

I like Ashleigh btw but if she looked like Jale or had Helen's past she would not have got away with those comments so lightly, but I'm mainly disappointed in Ashleigh for her blatent hypocrisy.

Well said Mocky at least as a fan you can see it and are not blinkered,kudos to you for that,great post.:cheer2:

[Yaki da]

Did Ashleigh have her say to Helens FACE ? Yes or no

Yes... Hence the reason Helen is talking about her sniping away at her.

[chuff me dizzy]

I'm still surprised at Ashleigh last night in the Diary Room saying that Helen can still get quite aggressive (which is true) but I thought that she would be more understanding that people say silly things in arguments after Ashleigh wanted to “smash Christopher's face through a ****ing mirror” and “does he want me to come after him?” I mean Helen has not even come close to the first comment in particular yet Ashleigh still tries to take a moral high ground over Helen on how they argue.

I like Ashleigh btw but if she looked like Jale or had Helen's past she would not have got away with those comments so lightly, but I'm mainly disappointed in Ashleigh for her blatent hypocrisy.

Threatening to smash Christophers face into a mirror is apparently what we ALL do to family, friends ,please keep up mocky

[sampvt]

How is that grassing on someone though? Talking in the Diaryroom is part of the show as far as I'm aware and most likely she was probably called there and asked what went on :shrug:

Oh sorry, I wont mention it again but I was under the impression that talking behind someones back and calling them out to a third party (BB) was the same as grassing but I wont labour on it. Lets say you are right.

[chuff me dizzy]

Yes... Hence the reason Helen is talking about her sniping away at her.

NO she ran like a rat into the diary room :dog:

[chuff me dizzy]

Oh sorry, I wont mention it again but I was under the impression that talking behind someones back and calling them out to a third party (BB) was the same as grassing but I wont labour on it. Lets say you are right.

:clap1: i agree Sam it is grassing ,when we were at school it was called telling tales

[Marsh.]

What do you mean Helen's past?

Have you forgotten already?

[Kazanne]

That's a few more sympathy votes for moaning Myrtle,

[Marsh.]

That's a few more sympathy votes for moaning Myrtle

:joker: Only instead of haunting the girl's toilets, she's the pod dweller.

[Kazanne]

:joker: Only instead of haunting the girl's toilets, she's the pod dweller.

:joker::joker:

[Niamh.]

Oh sorry, I wont mention it again but I was under the impression that talking behind someones back and calling them out to a third party (BB) was the same as grassing but I wont labour on it. Lets say you are right.

I'm glad you've seen sense Sam :smug:

[HBB1508]

:joker: Only instead of haunting the girl's toilets, she's the pod dweller.

:laugh3:

[Mystic Mock]

What do you mean Helen's past? Ashleigh's from a council estate and Helen's from a leafy suburb.

Helen being an ex-escort means she has to be more careful on what she says and does.

[bbfan1991]

The only housemate in there who knows they can get away with murder is Helen. She is IMMUNE and can do whatever the F she likes.

Exactly. Ashleigh knows that she is not perfect and has had it tougher in there. Glad she is showing her loyalty to Christopher.

[jet]

I'm still surprised at Ashleigh last night in the Diary Room saying that Helen can still get quite aggressive (which is true) but I thought that she would be more understanding that people say silly things in arguments after Ashleigh wanted to “smash Christopher's face through a ****ing mirror” and “does he want me to come after him?” I mean Helen has not even come close to the first comment in particular yet Ashleigh still tries to take a moral high ground over Helen on how they argue.

I like Ashleigh btw but if she looked like Jale or had Helen's past she would not have got away with those comments so lightly, but I'm mainly disappointed in Ashleigh for her blatent hypocrisy.

thf though Helen is 'quite aggressive' all the time and it was not only Ashleigh that said it. Winston said that you can't disagree with Helen without her getting aggressive and then having an argument for the next 10 minutes. Ash agreed.
Ashleigh shouldn't have said what she did about Christopher, but she was asked about Helen's, not her own, behaviour - and saying 'she can still get quite aggressive' isn't really taking a moral high ground in this instance, it's just answering a question....

[erinp5]

That's a few more sympathy votes for moaning Myrtle,

Beats being a ***** .

[Kazanne]

Beats being a ***** .

Nice :nono:temper,temper,lol

[chuff me dizzy]

A row is when 2 people (or more) argue about something ,this isn't a row as spineless spotty cow ran to diary room to talk to the camera ,one on one

[Mystic Mock]

Beats being a ***** .

Helen hasn't had sex on TV or actually been in a relationship and then slept with the whole block.

[Mystic Mock]

A row is when 2 people (or more) argue about something ,this isn't a row as spineless spotty cow ran to diary room to talk to the camera ,one on one

Why bring Ashleigh's looks into it? She's not even an ugly girl plus you take away any of your valid points against Ashleigh if you keep attacking her looks all the time.

[Niamh.]

Why bring Ashleigh's looks into it? She's not even an ugly girl plus you take away any of your valid points against Ashleigh if you keep attacking her looks all the time.

:clap1:

[chuff me dizzy]

Why bring Ashleigh's looks into it? She's not even an ugly girl plus you take away any of your valid points against Ashleigh if you keep attacking her looks all the time.

YOU don't think she's ugly I think she's foul inside and out

[erinp5]

Helen hasn't had sex on TV or actually been in a relationship and then slept with the whole block.

She admits what she is ,she has done TV interviews to explain what she does,only stating the obvious.

[Dollface]

Helen hasn't had sex on TV or actually been in a relationship and then slept with the whole block.

I don't actually mind Helen so i'm not trying to be bitchy or whatever, but to be fair, she was a prostitute (accepted payment for sex services - including a threesome with a married man) so she's not exactly pure :x

[MrWong]

Ashleigh defending Christopher is hardly spineless.

I love how it's being made out that BB coudn't possibly have called her to the diary room to ask her about the row. Like they do after every row.

I'm sure at some point Helen will be called as well.

Will she sit there saying it's none of BB's business and that she's not a grass when they ask her about the row?

Of course not. Which is why it's a ****ing pointless argument.

[Dollface]

Why bring Ashleigh's looks into it? She's not even an ugly girl plus you take away any of your valid points against Ashleigh if you keep attacking her looks all the time.

Well said!

[erinp5]

Nice :nono:temper,temper,lol

I see what you done there LOL :joker:

[Marsh.]

Beats being a ***** .

Helen being a prostitute in the past has what to do with this particular incident?

It continues to amaze me how you can't discuss an event in the house or a particular housemates actions without someone responding with "But _____ did this ____ years ago."

Mentioning Helen doing something similar to what Ashleigh is being accused of and you have a point, calling her a ***** sounds like you can't think of anything.

:joker:

[joeysteele]

I'm still surprised at Ashleigh last night in the Diary Room saying that Helen can still get quite aggressive (which is true) but I thought that she would be more understanding that people say silly things in arguments after Ashleigh wanted to “smash Christopher's face through a ****ing mirror” and “does he want me to come after him?” I mean Helen has not even come close to the first comment in particular yet Ashleigh still tries to take a moral high ground over Helen on how they argue.

I like Ashleigh btw but if she looked like Jale or had Helen's past she would not have got away with those comments so lightly, but I'm mainly disappointed in Ashleigh for her blatent hypocrisy.

:joker:Great post, well balanced one too.

:joker:Actually I am trying to picture Ashleigh as Judge Judy,oh gosh.:joker:

''Put your hand down'',''was I speaking to you'',that would be hilarious,she may have missed her vocation.:joker:

[Dollface]

YOU don't think she's ugly I think she's foul inside and out

Are you sure you're not just a wee bit envious?

[Marsh.]

envious?

:joker:

[Mick]

I don't understand the grassing comments as BB hears everything that is said anyway.?

[Kazanne]

I don't actually mind Helen so i'm not trying to be bitchy or whatever, but to be fair, she was a prostitute (accepted payment for sex services - including a threesome with a married man) so she's not exactly pure :x

But we all know this,what has that to do with her as a housemate,imo its just a cheap shot to keep calling her a *****,just my opinion mind

[Dollface]

:joker:

I think it's pretty obvious that some women can't stand it when other women are better looking than they are.

[erinp5]

Helen being a prostitute in the past has what to do with this particular incident?

It continues to amaze me how you can't discuss an event in the house or a particular housemates actions without someone responding with "But _____ did this ____ years ago."

Mentioning Helen doing something similar to what Ashleigh is being accused of and you have a point, calling her a ***** sounds like you can't think of anything.

:joker:

Ashleigh looks and being called all sorts of names has what to do with this incident. :shrug: can't have it both ways .

[jet]

Why bring Ashleigh's looks into it? She's not even an ugly girl plus you take away any of your valid points against Ashleigh if you keep attacking her looks all the time.

Well said!

[Mystic Mock]

I don't actually mind Helen so i'm not trying to be bitchy or whatever, but to be fair, she was a prostitute (accepted payment for sex services - including a threesome with a married man) so she's not exactly pure :x

I never said that Helen was pure, but a true ***** for the girls this series is what Kimberly did.

[Jack_]

So once again ALL said behind Helens back ,Miss Rufty Tufty really is a coward isn't she ? :dog: run to the diary room dogface

What the actual ****? What's the need to insult the way people look?

[erinp5]

I never said that Helen was pure, but a true ***** for the girls this series is what Kimberly did.

Not true ,Kimberly had sex in the BB house.
Helen had sex for money.

[Dollface]

But we all know this,what has that to do with her as a housemate,imo its just a cheap shot to keep calling her a *****,just my opinion mind

Whoa i didn't call her a ***** (and i never would) someone stated that she hadn't had sex on TV & i was just pointing out that just because she hasn't done anything in the house, doesn't mean she is better than those that have. Upon reflection her past has nothing to do with this thread.. :nono: @ me

[joeysteele]

Not true ,Kimberly had sex in the BB house.
Helen had sex for money.

Not in the house she didn't,in public view, and it is clear some guy/s were happy to pay for it with her too.

[Kazanne]

Helen being a prostitute in the past has what to do with this particular incident?

It continues to amaze me how you can't discuss an event in the house or a particular housemates actions without someone responding with "But _____ did this ____ years ago."

Mentioning Helen doing something similar to what Ashleigh is being accused of and you have a point, calling her a ***** sounds like you can't think of anything.

:joker:

Well thinking about it Ashleigh does parade herself in front of a crowd of people to assure herself she is 'beautiful' what does that make her? at least Helen gets good money for what she does.Joke,before the machetes come out,lol

[Mystic Mock]

I think it's pretty obvious that some women can't stand it when other women are better looking than they are.

Tbf none of us have any idea what Chuff Me Dizzy looks like, but I don't mind the odd attack on a Housemates looks but when it's constant it can get quite annoying imo.

[erinp5]

Helen thinks she's always in the right, always in the right, always in the right.

[Mystic Mock]

Not true ,Kimberly had sex in the BB house.
Helen had sex for money.

Yes money to provide for her family, Kimbot apparently has a boyfriend and then she claimed to have sex on national TV so she's trashy and a *****.

[sampvt]

Tbf none of us have any idea what Chuff Me Dizzy looks like, but I don't mind the odd attack on a Housemates looks but when it's constant it can get quite annoying imo.

Didn't Chuff win Miss Doncaster a few years back. I cant remember but it was something like that.

[Niamh.]

Yes money to provide for her family, Kimbot apparently has a boyfriend and then she claimed to have sex on national TV so she's trashy and a *****.

And what does that make Steven? He had sex on TV as well, I really hate that derogatory term and the way it's only the women that get labelled with it in these situations

[Kazanne]

Didn't Chuff win Miss Doncaster a few years back. I cant remember but it was something like that.

Chuffs lovely inside and out .

[Mystic Mock]

Helen thinks she's always in the right, always in the right, always in the right.

And you know that she always is lol.

[Kazanne]

And you know that she always is lol.

:laugh: aint that the truth Mocky

[Mystic Mock]

And what does that make Steven? He had sex on TV as well, I really hate that derogatory term and the way it's only the women that get labelled with it in these situations

I was on about out of the girls, but yeah Steven's a ***** as well as didn't he have a girlfriend? And his Mom?

[Niamh.]

I was on about out of the girls, but yeah Steven's a ***** as well as didn't he have a girlfriend? And his Mom?

It's a horrible word either way

[erinp5]

And you know that she always is lol.

Now that's funny:thumbs:

[Mystic Mock]

It's a horrible word either way

I agree and I wouldn't have said anything if Helen hadn't have been called it first.

And yes I know how childish that sounds.

[Mystic Mock]

Now that's funny:thumbs:

Well I've always been told that I have great comedic timing.

[rionablue]

The main problem I have been having with Ashleigh is that in the whole series I think Ashleigh only ONCE squared up to Helen. Other than that she bitched to her friends about who was annoying her or her opinions on the housemates she disliked. She is big enough to be upfront and straight and have it out with whoever she is arguing wi9th instead of running to Big Brother about it. Yes Helen probably bitched about her but Helen will also tell her straight her problem with her.

I never thought I would say it at the start of the series when Helen was being absolutely VILE AND BITCHY and Ashleigh was being all sweet and quiet that by the end I would end up actually liking Helen and strongly disliking Ashleigh and that I had been a fan of Chris for many many weeks but I felt he turned into a shady character with the last week ot so who I would no longer defend or support. The only two I think should win now are Winston or Christopher (thought Helen has been on a huge journey of discovery in there and although I think she would be a good winnet I cant see it happening) Anyway just riona's opinion. I must duck the supporters now lol

[erinp5]

Well I've always been told that I have great comedic timing.

you do :joker:

[Marsh.]

can't have it both ways .

No, you can't. So behave.

[Marsh.]

Didn't Chuff win Miss Doncaster a few years back. I cant remember but it was something like that.

:joker:

[MrWong]

The main problem I have been having with Ashleigh is that in the whole series I think Ashleigh only ONCE squared up to Helen. Other than that she bitched to her friends about who was annoying her or her opinions on the housemates she disliked. She is big enough to be upfront and straight and have it out with whoever she is arguing wi9th instead of running to Big Brother about it. Yes Helen probably bitched about her but Helen will also tell her straight her problem with her.

Do you square up to everyone that you have a problem with?


Once again it's being made out that BB couldn't possibly have called Ashleigh to the diary room to ask her about the row. Like they do after every row.

I'm sure at some point Helen will be called as well.

Will she sit there saying it's none of BB's business and that she's not a grass when they ask her about the row?

Of course not. Which is why it's a ****ing pointless argument.

[Marsh.]

Do you square up to everyone that you have a problem with?


Not really the point. It's her fans saying she always squares up to Helen when she doesn't.

[Speedster]

Christopher found Pav's bracelet and instead of giving it to him, decided to wear it?-he's a thief.:nono:

[chuff me dizzy]

Are you sure you're not just a wee bit envious?

Get a grip love

[Speedster]

Beats being a ***** .

There are no "*****s" in BB.

[chuff me dizzy]

Didn't Chuff win Miss Doncaster a few years back. I cant remember but it was something like that.

Sam I didn't know you knew that , i DID win Miss Doncaster a few years ago,Now thats spooky !!

[MrWong]

Not really the point. It's her fans saying she always squares up to Helen when she doesn't.

I've not said that.

[chuff me dizzy]

Chuffs lovely inside and out .

:bawling: Thank you kind lady

[Speedster]

I think it's pretty obvious that some women can't stand it when other women are better looking than they are.



Hehe :)

[Dollface]

Get a grip love

Ooooo, defensive :pat:

[erinp5]

No, you can't. So behave.

What are you on about behave ?

[chuff me dizzy]

Ooooo, defensive :pat:

Oooo honest

[erinp5]

There are no "*****s" in BB.

sorry escort .

[Speedster]

I never said that Helen was pure, but a true ***** for the girls this series is what Kimberly did.

I'm stunned you think that the fact that Kimberly (may have) had sex in the BB house makes her a "*****". *


*Your term for Kimberly, not Mine.

[chuff me dizzy]

:joker:

Cheeky gett i did win it ,but not telling what year it was

[Kazanne]

The main problem I have been having with Ashleigh is that in the whole series I think Ashleigh only ONCE squared up to Helen. Other than that she bitched to her friends about who was annoying her or her opinions on the housemates she disliked. She is big enough to be upfront and straight and have it out with whoever she is arguing wi9th instead of running to Big Brother about it. Yes Helen probably bitched about her but Helen will also tell her straight her problem with her.

I never thought I would say it at the start of the series when Helen was being absolutely VILE AND BITCHY and Ashleigh was being all sweet and quiet that by the end I would end up actually liking Helen and strongly disliking Ashleigh and that I had been a fan of Chris for many many weeks but I felt he turned into a shady character with the last week ot so who I would no longer defend or support. The only two I think should win now are Winston or Christopher (thought Helen has been on a huge journey of discovery in there and although I think she would be a good winnet I cant see it happening) Anyway just riona's opinion. I must duck the supporters now lol

Did she square up to her rionablue,when was that?(serious question btw)

[Speedster]

sorry escort .


Still wrong. I'm pretty sure she doesn't do it anymore.

[Marsh.]

I've not said that.

I never said you did. :conf:

[Kazanne]

Sam I didn't know you knew that , i DID win Miss Doncaster a few years ago,Now thats spooky !!

I hope you didn't have bloody ringlets Chuff,they went out with the ark:laugh:

[Marsh.]

What are you on about behave ?

Reign it in, this anger is coming across quite threatening.

[Marsh.]

Cheeky gett i did win it ,but not telling what year it was

I never said you didn't. :conf: Kindly take your personal insults somewhere else. :nono:

[Kazanne]

Reign it in, this anger is coming across quite threatening.

You'll be getting a teddy chucked at you soon :laugh:

[chuff me dizzy]

I hope you didn't have bloody ringlets Chuff,they went out with the ark:laugh:

No I'm a lot more classy than THAT :smug:

[erinp5]

Reign it in, this anger is coming across quite threatening.

Your having a laugh.

[Marsh.]

Your having a laugh.

:worry: Stop shouting at me.

[chuff me dizzy]

I never said you didn't. :conf: Kindly take your personal insults somewhere else. :nono:

I was joking lighten up :nono:

[Marsh.]

I was joking lighten up :nono:

:umm2: :hehe:

[erinp5]

:worry: Stop shouting at me.

*whispers* your having a laugh

[chuff me dizzy]

:umm2: :hehe:

Yes ,you should be scared !! :joker:

[Marsh.]

*whispers* your having a laugh

No, you're actually making me tearful.

http://i.imgur.com/AyQ7MCUs.jpg

[MrWong]

I never said you did. :conf:

So because some fans excuse Ashleigh everything that means it can be used in arguments against every fan?

Probably best to address it to fans that do tbh seen as though I made no mention of it.

[karezza]

Ashleigh really is repulsive.

[Jake.]

Wait.. You're telling me a housemate used the diary room to vent? Surely that's a first..

[erinp5]

Just read that on couch potatoes they interviewed Jale and she clearly states that Ash stole ciggies out of her bag so I'm betting he's the ciggie thief.

[MrWong]

Wait.. You're telling me a housemate used the diary room to vent? Surely that's a first..

She's a grass!!!

Apparently..

[Jake.]

She's a grass!!!

Apparently..

Makes sense.. Might have to start calling out every housemate each time another housemates name is mentioned in Diary Room..

[MrWong]

Makes sense.. Might have to start calling out every housemate each time another housemates name is mentioned in Diary Room..

I'm not sure it works like that.

Ashleigh's the only one that gets called out for such things.

Like the bitching last night, 3 threads of faux outrage about Ashleigh and none about Helen and Mark bitching about Winston.

[chuff me dizzy]

Wait.. You're telling me a housemate used the diary room to vent? Surely that's a first..

But she's straight talking Barbi, she isn't scared of Helen she's going to tell her to her face .............wait a minute, she's bottled it, she ran to diary room for a bit of camera hogging where no doubt she will have talked the talk

[Marsh.]

So because some fans excuse Ashleigh everything that means it can be used in arguments against every fan?

Probably best to address it to fans that do tbh seen as though I made no mention of it.

I never said you said anything. I was referring to what the other poster was talking about.

You brought up the comment so I was explaining it. I'm not going to explain it to someone else because you were directly responding to that comment.

[Marsh.]

erin it won't let me respond to your PM? :confused:

:laugh:

[sampvt]

Sam I didn't know you knew that , i DID win Miss Doncaster a few years ago,Now thats spooky !!

That's why they call me the Oracle. lol. BTW have you had those 44 double 'D,s' reduced yet.

[sampvt]

You don't need to explain pet, I know, but the thought of you and a Miss Donny sash kitted out with a hip flask and a little pocket for the woddies gets me giggling like a big kid.

[Marsh.]

Miss Doncaster 1937. ;)

[sampvt]

It's a horrible word either way

It certainly is but Naimh, pray tell me...how can I reply to pm,s sent to me when I cant read them or even see why I have been infracted. Is there a new regime on here now that disables all facilities to mute posters or is my account deliberately muted for some reason.

[MrWong]

I never said you said anything. I was referring to what the other poster was talking about.

You brought up the comment so I was explaining it. I'm not going to explain it to someone else because you were directly responding to that comment.

The fm that I was replying to didn't even mention anything about Ashleigh fans saying Ashleigh squares up to Helen every time. :conf:

It was pointless replying to me with that argument tbh and made no sense.

[sampvt]

Miss Doncaster 1937. ;)

Jesus that makes her a 77 yr old sex kitten, she younger than me (just) lol.

[chuff me dizzy]

Miss Doncaster 1937. ;)

Don't push it laddo !!

[chuff me dizzy]

You don't need to explain pet, I know, but the thought of you and a Miss Donny sash kitted out with a hip flask and a little pocket for the woddies gets me giggling like a big kid.

5 Park Drive tipped !!

[erinp5]

erin it won't let me respond to your PM? :confused:

:laugh:

Fixed it now .still getting used to my way around :joker:

[sampvt]

Fixed it now .still getting used to my way around :joker:

Can you fix mine, I cant get a mod to reply to me and cant even read why I have been infracted.

[Marsh.]

Fixed it now .still getting used to my way around :joker:

It says you've chosen not to receive them. :laugh:

[Marsh.]

The fm that I was replying to didn't even mention anything about Ashleigh fans saying Ashleigh squares up to Helen every time. :conf:

It was pointless replying to me with that argument tbh and made no sense.

I never said they did.

:facepalm: I'll go and talk to a brick wall, I'll get more common sense from them.

[MrWong]

I never said they did.

:facepalm: I'll go and talk to a brick wall, I'll get more common sense from them.

So what was the point in bringing it up?

[Marsh.]

So what was the point in bringing it up?

I was explaining the original question you posed about the comment. I never said you or the other poster said anything.

jesus christ.

[erinp5]

Can you fix mine, I cant get a mod to reply to me and cant even read why I have been infracted.

Sorry I have no clue ,I think I have managed to fix my own profile to get PM's.:blush2:

[Dollface]

Can you fix mine, I cant get a mod to reply to me and cant even read why I have been infracted.

Is this forum pretty strict or something? I got a warning the other day for something extremely petty lol, i get away with saying much more offensive things on other forums!

[MrWong]

I was explaining the original question you posed about the comment. I never said you or the other poster said anything.

jesus christ.

The fm had a problem with Ashleigh because she only squared up to Helen once.

I asked the fm if that's what they usually do.

You replied with "Not really the point. It's her fans saying she always squares up to Helen when she doesn't"

Like I said, pointless. I hadn't mentioned the fans and neither had the fm.

[jet]

I never said they did.

:facepalm: I'll go and talk to a brick wall, I'll get more common sense from them.

Don't talk to MrWong like that. :nono:

[Marsh.]

Don't talk to Mr. Wong like that. :nono:

Butt out.

[Marsh.]

The fm had a problem with Ashleigh because she only squared up to Helen once.

I asked the fm if that's what they usually do.

You replied with "Not really the point. It's her fans saying she always squares up to Helen when she doesn't"

Like I said, pointless. I hadn't mentioned the fans and neither had the fm.

It's not pointless. The FM pointed that out because many of her fans always talk about how upfront Ashleigh is and says things to people's faces. Not saying that everyone has to square up to everyone they have a problem with.

Hello wall.

[MrWong]

Butt out.

What? Like you did in my attempted discussion with rionablue?

[Marsh.]

Wow, some people eh? :facepalm:

[MrWong]

It's not pointless. The FM pointed that out because many of her fans always talk about how upfront Ashleigh is and says things to people's faces. Not saying that everyone has to square up to everyone they have a problem with.

Hello wall.

You don't know that at all as the fans weren't referred to.

Unless you're a mind reader.

[MrWong]

Wow, some people eh? :facepalm:

Indeed. Which is why i'm off to watch a pretty decent copy of The Purge Anarchy :xyxwave:

[Marsh.]

Sorry I have no clue ,I think I have managed to fix my own profile to get PM's.:blush2:

It still doesn't allow me to PM you. :unsure:

Anyway, my response was just don't worry, I was only joking. Should've made it a bit more clear. :hehe:

[Marsh.]

Unless you're a mind reader.

:pat: Yes, that must be it. :rolleyes:

[erinp5]

It still doesn't allow me to PM you. :unsure:

Anyway, my response was just don't worry, I was only joking. Should've made it a bit more clear. :hehe:

No probs ,I give up trying to fix what I don't understand re PM's, cheers Marsh.:thumbs:

[jegmeister]

She did Sam,but you're not allowed to say that,you must say,she verbally assassinated Helen,and told her face to face:joker::joker:

Helen is the biggest hypocrite of all in these situations. She constantly bitches - all the time - yet talks about being straight.

As for Ashleigh saying it in the diary room, why the hell shouldn't she? That's what it's there for. Or was until BB kept deciding to reveal people's convos in there all the time. Would you want to be shouted out by Miss Loudmouth herself all the time. She is a nasty intimidating person. I would find her difficult to deal with.

[erinp5]

Helen is the biggest hypocrite of all in these situations. She constantly bitches - all the time - yet talks about being straight.

As for Ashleigh saying it in the diary room, why the hell shouldn't she? That's what it's there for. Or was until BB kept deciding to reveal people's convos in there all the time. Would you want to be shouted out by Miss Loudmouth herself all the time. She is a nasty intimidating person. I would find her difficult to deal with.

I loved when Bea said she was just being honest Davina's reply was ace .
9 mins into the vid.
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[Samm]

What the actual ****? What's the need to insult the way people look?

This. I don't see how anybody could diss Ashleigh's looks anyway

[Samm]

But yass Ashleigh gaining that public support

[rionablue]

Did she square up to her rionablue,when was that?(serious question btw)

Yes when Helen and Kim had an argument with Ashleigh and Ashleigh answered back and Winston defended her from what I can recall. I am of course open to correction

[Babschap]

After defending Christopher to Helen. Yes. And whilst Helen bitches to Mark

Ashleigh haters leaving out the bits they don't like, creating another fantasy world again :laugh:

So true! Well said

[rusticgal]

So Ashleigh vented to BB,LOL that figures


Well if they rowed about it she obviously vented off to Helen....so that puts paid to your argument. She merely went on to discuss it in the diary room like they all do.

Helen then trying to make out it was a joke... Yes Helen...of course it was. Helen just can't handle Ashleigh's popularity and how she handles situations. Helen can't debate and discuss in an articulate mature way. This last couple of weeks has had a massive impact on how she has been perceived by housemates and public alike...she's like a volcano waiting to erupt..:joker:

[erinp5]

Helen was so pissed I doubt she knew what she was saying .
Ashleigh vented in the DR and Helen vented to Mark in the living room .
I agree with Ashleigh you can't call someone a thief, ironic when she is the one that stole wine lol .

[rusticgal]

Well thinking about it Ashleigh does parade herself in front of a crowd of people to assure herself she is 'beautiful' what does that make her? at least Helen gets good money for what she does.Joke,before the machetes come out,lol

That's a ridiculous and desperate comment.

[Kazanne]

That's a ridiculous and desperate comment.

Well if you'de clicked the spoiler you'de have seen it was a joke,clearly a sense of humour bypass ,Ashleigh must be rubbing off:joker:

[Marsh.]

Ashleigh must be rubbing off:joker:

That's Chris. :hehe:

[Kazanne]

Yes when Helen and Kim had an argument with Ashleigh and Ashleigh answered back and Winston defended her from what I can recall. I am of course open to correction

I'll say nowt,dont want to upset people:smug:

[rusticgal]

Didn't Chuff win Miss Doncaster a few years back. I cant remember but it was something like that.

It's irrelevant...talking consistently about someone's spots is desperate, bitchy and uncalled for. Have an opinion on what people's reactions without getting personal.

[Kazanne]

That's Chris. :hehe:

:shocked::joker:

[rusticgal]

Chuffs lovely inside and out .

Not when she resorts to attacking personal traits...

[Jords]

"over fags"

Not quite... over Christopher being labelled a thief.

tbh it was quite a non-argument - if it was a joke it wasnt a funny and if it was an accusation it wasnt executed well.

[chuff me dizzy]

Not when she resorts to attacking personal traits...

What has happened to you this series ?

[delta]

Said it all along, Ashleigh and her little crew of haters, finger pointers, social commentators, biatches all they do is criticise.


There is not an entertaining bone in her body, see how, when she had the limelight, when they were all doing the animal impressions etc.... how she shied away.


Get Christopher, Ahsliegh, Chirs out of the fcuking house..... FFS how can anyone listen or watch these poor excuses of human beings out of the house.

[delta]

"over fags"

Not quite... over Christopher being labelled a thief.

tbh it was quite a non-argument - if it was a joke it wasnt a funny and if it was an accusation it wasnt executed well.


He admitted to being a thief.

[rusticgal]

What has happened to you this series ?

Nothing..I happen to like Ashleigh Chuff and you don't. We don't always agree but often we do. I have always enjoyed you on here but I have been surprised by your constant referral to Ashleigh's spotty complexion...it's uncalled for. We are both probably about the same age and I wouldn't like my daughter being judged on thing like that...we aren't here to judge peoples looks. I didn't like Jale when she lost her way but when Helen called her a 'fat cow' it was cruel.
Let's judge people on their behaviour..not looks...you just surprised me by going down that route because it's not like you.

Still love you though...:wavey:

[jet]

Well it's cleared up for me. Ashleigh quite clearly said that it was wrong to call Christopher a thief, not once, but twice. Which is why Helen sniped back with the Judge Judy comment. So she didn't say nothing. She didn't just say it in the DR.
Now who will admit they were wrong? Eh?

[Ammi]

..just another twisting of this stuff that is leaked of what's going on in the house...Ashleigh didn't vent in the DR at all...it was the least venting vent ever...she had only just sat down when it was obvious that Christopher was getting upset at being accused of being a thief..whether it be a 'joke' or not...who would think that was funny..would Helen if she was being accused...?..would she say ha ha ha..I don't think so, it's a serious accusation and jokes are only funny if the person you aim your 'joke' at thinks it's funny...just another case of Helen cruelly 'avin a laugh at someone else's expense....and then not liking it when others don't find it so funny and Ashleigh said to let Christopher speak and defended him...she always sees someone pointing out her wrongs as a personal attack...anyway, Ashleigh did nothing wrong there, she was sensitive to how Christopher was feeling and then when she was ridiculed herself for that with the Judge Judy comment, she talked about it in the DR in the most non venting way....Helen really hasn't changed at all/can never seem to see how it is for the other person she's using to have a laugh at or know what's appropriate as 'laughing matter' and what isn't and when she's making someone feel uncomfortable so just to stop and explain she didn't mean it and apologise....

[Creggle]

A row is when 2 people (or more) argue about something ,this isn't a row as spineless spotty cow ran to diary room to talk to the camera ,one on one

Why do you constantly attack her appearance? It's very suspect.

[sampvt]

Its probably due to the fact that she (Ashleigh) views herself as little miss perfect when she has flaws that are recognisable herself. Parading yourself as a beauty queen but with oodles of make up to cover an inadequacy can be a demeaning trait in anyone. Ashleigh is a very me me me character and when she does not get her own way she throws the rattle out of the pram and bitches, hence she gets called for her sins and the ''You are not perfect anyway'' statements come out.

[Tip]

Helen's a bit immature and probably needs a lot of leeway, due to this.

Ashleigh could have sat and said nothing, but she let Helen know she didn't approve of what she was doing.

It could have been handled better and it could have been handled worse. I just think there is so little going on really in the house that these things are getting blown out of proportion both inside and outside the house.

[Ammi]

Its probably due to the fact that she (Ashleigh) views herself as little miss perfect when she has flaws that are recognisable herself. Parading yourself as a beauty queen but with oodles of make up to cover an inadequacy can be a demeaning trait in anyone. Ashleigh is a very me me me character and when she does not get her own way she throws the rattle out of the pram and bitches, hence she gets called for her sins and the ''You are not perfect anyway'' statements come out.

..I have never once seen anything in Ashleigh's behaviour that would say she viewed herself as little miss perfect...maybe a small minority of her fans may view her as that in some way but most don't..most see her flaws and imperfections but also see her good qualities as well which is why they like her ...in the DR she said she was 'normal' had morals etc..most of us do and that's why we wouldn't see the funny side of seeing someone get upset because they had been accused of being a thief, whether a joke or not...personal 'jokes' are only jokes when the subject of that joke also finds it funny and it's knowing when to stop and seeing when a person is becoming upset by it...there is also nothing to suggest that Ashleigh is a me me me person more than any other person in that house..in fact in her private life, her work with charities, at supporting other young girls in their self confidence through her own win in the beauty contest would suggest that she very much thinks of others..and there is nothing wrong with a young girl entering a beauty contest..she has said she has been bullied and therefore may have had very little self esteem herself and so much needed to do something in her life that raised that self esteem and it appears her family supported her in that...well done her and well done them...it's probably made her a much more confident person but someone for me who also tries to help others who may not have yet reached the confidence she has....


..if she wears make up because it makes her feel more confident in herself to do so then why not/there is no harm and it's not a negative trait..I don't think she needs it, is beautiful without it and I'm sure that her friends and family also do but it's what she feels about herself that matters..it's make-up, it's nothing/no deal at all....

[sampvt]

..I have never once seen anything in Ashleigh's behaviour that would say she viewed herself as little miss perfect...maybe a small minority of her fans may view her as that in some way but most don't..most see her flaws and imperfections but also see her good qualities as well which is why they like her ...in the DR she said she was 'normal' had morals etc..most of us do and that's why we wouldn't see the funny side of seeing someone get upset because they had been accused of being a thief, whether a joke or not...personal 'jokes' are only jokes when the subject of that joke also finds it funny and it's knowing when to stop and seeing when a person is becoming upset by it...there is also nothing to suggest that Ashleigh is a me me me person more than any other person in that house..in fact in her private life, her work with charities, at supporting other young girls in their self confidence through her own win in the beauty contest would suggest that she very much thinks of others..and there is nothing wrong with a young girl entering a beauty contest..she has said she has been bullied and therefore may have had very little self esteem herself and so much needed to do something in her life that raised that self esteem and it appears her family supported her in that...well done her and well done them...it's probably made her a much more confident person but someone for me who also tries to help others who may not have yet reached the confidence she has....


..if she wears make up because it makes her feel more confident in herself to do so then why not/there is no harm and it's not a negative trait..I don't think she needs it, is beautiful without it and I'm sure that her friends and family also do but it's what she feels about herself that matters..it's make-up, it's nothing/no deal at all....

Some people are taken in hook line and sinker with her so called nice girl things, some people cant see them due to the barrage of other bad traits, so in short, there will always be 2 points of view.

Mine rests firmly in the category of.....she is a spoilt brat with no redeeming qualities and she may be superficially beautiful on the outside but she is dam butt ugly on the inside where it counts. To this end, women that use their looks to gain an edge are the worst kind of people in the world. (behind cyber bullies of course)

[bots]

To this end, women that use their looks to gain an edge are the worst kind of people in the world. (behind cyber bullies of course)

Given that its not a crime to do such, how can they possibly be classed as the worst people in the world. It is the norm for men and women to use their looks or character to gain advantage over others when they can, not the exception.

[Mick]

"Using her looks" I feel its to Ashleigh's credit that she has never attempted to gain favour with the male HMs via exploiting her sex appeal.She seldom dresses or acts in a sexually provocative way.

[chuff me dizzy]

Nothing..I happen to like Ashleigh Chuff and you don't. We don't always agree but often we do. I have always enjoyed you on here but I have been surprised by your constant referral to Ashleigh's spotty complexion...it's uncalled for. We are both probably about the same age and I wouldn't like my daughter being judged on thing like that...we aren't here to judge peoples looks. I didn't like Jale when she lost her way but when Helen called her a 'fat cow' it was cruel.
Let's judge people on their behaviour..not looks...you just surprised me by going down that route because it's not like you.

Still love you though...:wavey:

90% of the time I judge her on her vile behaviour ,which I find awful ,she's everything I dislike in a person and a hm8 ,and baffled people are not seeing the real her, the brat,the backstabber,the fake

Still love you too :kiss:

[joeysteele]

"Using her looks" I feel its to Ashleigh's credit that she has never attempted to gain favour with the male HMs via exploiting her sex appeal.She seldom dresses or acts in a sexually provocative way.

On what you have said there in your post,I do applaud her on, Ashleigh has a boyfriend and has never from what I have seen even in a minor way flirted at all with anyone else.

I dislike Ashleigh for one reason and that is she is 2 faced and I cannot tolerate such people myself.

As you say it is to her credit that she has never used her 'attractiveness',(I use the term loosely because being attractive does not necessarily make you a good person), to gain favour.

I would certainly guess,unlike so many other boyfriends and girlfriends watching housemates over all series of BB,that Ashleigh's boyfriend will have been really proud of her behaviour as to that in the house.

As you say, that is 100% to her credit.
I am just amazed that anyone is still in the slightest surprised that there will be hostility between Helen and Ashleigh in the house,I am certainly not.
One has a near uncontrollable temper and the other is 2 faced to the degree of almost deliberately winding that person up.
They don't like each other and never will, it is not news anymore,in my opinion.

[Ammi]

Some people are taken in hook line and sinker with her so called nice girl things, some people cant see them due to the barrage of other bad traits, so in short, there will always be 2 points of view.

Mine rests firmly in the category of.....she is a spoilt brat with no redeeming qualities and she may be superficially beautiful on the outside but she is dam butt ugly on the inside where it counts. To this end, women that use their looks to gain an edge are the worst kind of people in the world. (behind cyber bullies of course)

..yeah, there are always different opinions and 'many truths' which is why we all see different things in housemates and see house situations/interactions differently and what makes for good discussion etc...and of course and often due to life experiences we all differ in what we feel are 'worse' traits are better ones.....I guess that escorting is also using looks/bodies etc to gain edges so there is more than one 'worst kind of person' in the house....or maybe there are just no worst kind of people in there at all..they have all done what they felt was best for them in their lives so far.....

[Niamh.]

On what you have said there in your post,I do applaud her on, Ashleigh has a boyfriend and has never from what I have seen even in a minor way flirted at all with anyone else.

I dislike Ashleigh for one reason and that is she is 2 faced and I cannot tolerate such people myself.

As you say it is to her credit that she has never used her 'attractiveness',(I use the term loosely because being attractive does not necessarily make you a good person), to gain favour.

I would certainly guess,unlike so many other boyfriends and girlfriends watching housemates over all series of BB,that Ashleigh's boyfriend will have been really proud of her behaviour as to that in the house.

As you say, that is 100% to her credit.
I am just amazed that anyone is still in the slightest surprised that there will be hostility between Helen and Ashleigh in the house,I am certainly not.
One has a near uncontrollable temper and the other is 2 faced to the degree of almost deliberately winding that person up.
They don't like each other and never will, it is not news anymore,in my opinion.

I love your objectivity Joey :love:

[rusticgal]

Helen's a bit immature and probably needs a lot of leeway, due to this.

Ashleigh could have sat and said nothing, but she let Helen know she didn't approve of what she was doing.

It could have been handled better and it could have been handled worse. I just think there is so little going on really in the house that these things are getting blown out of proportion both inside and outside the house.



.....and of course plying them with copious amounts of alcohol is going to let the barriers down....

[MrWong]

On what you have said there in your post,I do applaud her on, Ashleigh has a boyfriend and has never from what I have seen even in a minor way flirted at all with anyone else.

I dislike Ashleigh for one reason and that is she is 2 faced and I cannot tolerate such people myself.

As you say it is to her credit that she has never used her 'attractiveness',(I use the term loosely because being attractive does not necessarily make you a good person), to gain favour.

I would certainly guess,unlike so many other boyfriends and girlfriends watching housemates over all series of BB,that Ashleigh's boyfriend will have been really proud of her behaviour as to that in the house.

As you say, that is 100% to her credit.
I am just amazed that anyone is still in the slightest surprised that there will be hostility between Helen and Ashleigh in the house,I am certainly not.
One has a near uncontrollable temper and the other is 2 faced to the degree of almost deliberately winding that person up.
They don't like each other and never will, it is not news anymore,in my opinion.

Helen's both of those things yet you prefer her to Ashleigh.

ZyAG8wIvfG8&list

"I've been 2 faced"

Straight from the horses mouth.

[poppsywoppsy]

90% of the time I judge her on her vile behaviour ,which I find awful ,she's everything I dislike in a person and a hm8 ,and baffled people are not seeing the real her, the brat,the backstabber,the fake

Still love you too :kiss:

Why expect her to be perfect, she is not, she reacts to circumstances thrown at her. It is only a game and backstabbing is part of it, the way she played the game was strategically to her advantage and others will get shafted in the name of the game.

She has to get on with others on the surface to keep the mood of the house calmer, but does and has said her piece at times, to Helen in particular.

Has it passed your notice that she wasn't up this week, so she can't be that disliked in the house especially if your opinions of her were true, which many others including myself disagree with.

She will be there at the end, for sure.

PS And she is only 18:cheer2:

[joeysteele]

Helen's both of those things yet you prefer her to Ashleigh.

ZyAG8wIvfG8&list

"I've been 2 faced"

Straight from the horses mouth.

I don't see Helen as 2 faced, I do see Ashleigh as that and that is something I really dislike in people.

The only people I will shun in everyday life are people that I know are 2 faced,because they cannot be trusted in ym opinion.

With Helen,whetehr she liked me a bit or a lot, or if she intensely disliked me, I would know she did so,I would know and have no doubt where I stood with people like her.
I prefer that any day of the week than dealing with 2 faced people.

[Ellen]

I don't see Helen as 2 faced, I do see Ashleigh as that and that is something I really dislike in people.

The only people I will shun in everyday life are people that I know are 2 faced,because they cannot be trusted in ym opinion.

With Helen,whetehr she liked me a bit or a lot, or if she intensely disliked me, I would know she did so,I would know and have no doubt where I stood with people like her.
I prefer that any day of the week than dealing with 2 faced people.

:thumbs: Exactly Joey, with Helen you know if she likes you or not.

[chuff me dizzy]

I don't see Helen as 2 faced, I do see Ashleigh as that and that is something I really dislike in people.

The only people I will shun in everyday life are people that I know are 2 faced,because they cannot be trusted in ym opinion.

With Helen,whetehr she liked me a bit or a lot, or if she intensely disliked me, I would know she did so,I would know and have no doubt where I stood with people like her.
I prefer that any day of the week than dealing with 2 faced people.

:clap1: Spot on yet again Joey !!

[rosie1991]

The only housemate in there who knows they can get away with murder is Helen. She is IMMUNE and can do whatever the F she likes.

Yes, couldn't agree more.

[MrWong]

I don't see Helen as 2 faced, I do see Ashleigh as that and that is something I really dislike in people.

The only people I will shun in everyday life are people that I know are 2 faced,because they cannot be trusted in ym opinion.

With Helen,whetehr she liked me a bit or a lot, or if she intensely disliked me, I would know she did so,I would know and have no doubt where I stood with people like her.
I prefer that any day of the week than dealing with 2 faced people.

Helen - “I don’t particularly like Ashleigh but I’ve got on with her because I’ve had to,” Helen ranted. “In the real word I’d turn around and say to her, ‘I can’t ****ing stand you, do not speak to me do not look at me, do not cross my path, I can’t ****ing stand you.”

Helen - "I've been 2-faced, I've smiled at people"

The very definition of 2-faced.

Now I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Everyone has to be like that or you'd be confronting people left, right and centre. I'm just pointing out the double standards of the people that attack Ashleigh for being 2-faced yet say nothing about Helen or make convoluted excuses for her.

[Niamh.]

Helen - “I don’t particularly like Ashleigh but I’ve got on with her because I’ve had to,” Helen ranted. “In the real word I’d turn around and say to her, ‘I can’t ****ing stand you, do not speak to me do not look at me, do not cross my path, I can’t ****ing stand you.”

Helen - "I've been 2-faced, I've smiled at people"

The very definition of 2-faced.

Now I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Everyone has to be like that or you'd be confronting people left, right and centre. I'm just pointing out the double standards of the people that attack Ashleigh for being 2-faced yet say nothing about Helen or make convoluted excuses for her.

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[AbbieJ]

Go, Ashleigh! Go, Ashleigh! :joker:

[Vanessa]

I don't see Helen as 2 faced, I do see Ashleigh as that and that is something I really dislike in people.

The only people I will shun in everyday life are people that I know are 2 faced,because they cannot be trusted in ym opinion.

With Helen,whetehr she liked me a bit or a lot, or if she intensely disliked me, I would know she did so,I would know and have no doubt where I stood with people like her.
I prefer that any day of the week than dealing with 2 faced people.

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[AbbieJ]

Helen - “I don’t particularly like Ashleigh but I’ve got on with her because I’ve had to,” Helen ranted. “In the real word I’d turn around and say to her, ‘I can’t ****ing stand you, do not speak to me do not look at me, do not cross my path, I can’t ****ing stand you.”

Helen - "I've been 2-faced, I've smiled at people"

The very definition of 2-faced.

Now I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Everyone has to be like that or you'd be confronting people left, right and centre. I'm just pointing out the double standards of the people that attack Ashleigh for being 2-faced yet say nothing about Helen or make convoluted excuses for her.

Someone has said it at last, thank you! :clap1: :worship:

[bots]

Its quite funny really, Ashleigh and Chris were having a discussion that they hoped would make it in to the HL show and earn them a few brownie points. Not surprised Helen got in a strop about that at all. Everyone is camera acting now, and the winner for me will be the one that does it while appearing the most natural while they do it. This bunch have been much more camera aware than any I can previously remember