Uh oh, here we go! overhears Ashleigh & Chris talking about her

[bbfan1991]

11.46pm: Helen overheard Chris and Ashleigh talking about her and she is rather angry. That friendship was never going to last. #BBUKLive

[Vanessa]

:amazed:

[Samm]

More public support for Ashleigh :clap1:

[erinp5]

ZffGcbvafGE

Watch our House comedian pour his heart out to Helen after he's had a few.

[erinp5]

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[Jase.]

inb4 she calls Ashleigh a skinny flat-chested bitch

[erinp5]

11.30pm: Chris is rather merry and has taken himself to bed. Very wise

[Brother Leon]

No doubt Helen will still be viewed as the badguy in this too :laugh:

[JTM45]

No doubt Helen will still be viewed as the badguy in this too :laugh:

If the cap fit's........i guess

[smudgie]

Nope, not buying that bullcrap for one second.

Ohhhhh, of course, he is up for eviction, makes sense now.

[TheElusiveChanteuse]

No doubt Helen will still be viewed as the badguy in this too :laugh:

Yeah, Helen wouldn't know how to be a bad guy. :laugh:

[erinp5]

Nope, not buying that bullcrap for one second.

Ohhhhh, of course, he is up for eviction, makes sense now.

BB want him gone.

[bbfan1991]

Chris is a bit merry and compliments a girl, big deal. BB are really pushing a character assassination with this ''creepy'' stuff, it's crass.

[erinp5]

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[bbfan1991]

IsuTfnxqSwQ

[Lex]

11.46pm: Helen overheard Chris and Ashleigh talking about her and she is rather angry. That friendship was never going to last. #BBUKLive


12.07am: Helen has decided to leave her argument with Ashleigh and Chris until tomorrow. We shall see....#BBUKLive


See...Helen has mellowed quite a bit lately! ....it's known as "her journey" you know! :joker:

[erinp5]

11.46pm: Helen overheard Chris and Ashleigh talking about her and she is rather angry. That friendship was never going to last

[erinp5]

12.07am: Helen has decided to leave her argument with Ashleigh and Chris until tomorrow. We shall see

[bbfan1991]

They both said they were surprised at how much they're liking her now despite being wary of her still, yet Helen can't wait to tell her lapdogs.

[bbfan1991]

Helen is stupid, yes they were talking about her behind her back but they actually said some nice/fair things in with what their issues were.

[TheElusiveChanteuse]

Helen completely twisted what they said and missed their entire point.

[bbfan1991]

Helen completely twisted what they said and missed their entire point.

Exactly. Everyone bitches in there, probably sometimes to let out true feelings or stress/boredom etc.

Helen has forgotten her bitching about Christopher and Winston recently...

[Brother Leon]

The School stuff was uncalled for. Making her out to be some nightmare Bully that would terrorise everyone. It would be like me going "Oh, Asheligh would of been terrible in School. Pretty ****ing Beauty Queen up her ass her with pretty girl clique". Other than that...meh it's not bad.

[Lister of Smeg]

They both said they were surprised at how much they're liking her now despite being wary of her still, yet Helen can't wait to tell her lapdogs.

BB will cut and past this up to fit there agenda no doubt.

[rusticgal]

12.07am: Helen has decided to leave her argument with Ashleigh and Chris until tomorrow. We shall see....#BBUKLive


See...Helen has mellowed quite a bit lately! ....it's known as "her journey" you know! :joker:


:joker::joker::joker:....then says she is going to be fake...like she has been acting for the last 10 weeks after her final warning.
She is a bully...and probably was everyone's worse nightmare at school.

[rusticgal]

Helen completely twisted what they said and missed their entire point.

Only repeating the negative bits and totally dismissing the positive...twisting the truth to suit herself.

[bbfan1991]

Not surprised at Ash believing Helen, but Mark is thick as mince. Glad the public has saw through him.

[MrWong]

Mark's been firmly lodged up Helen's arse this week.

He's got no chance of staying on Friday now.

Helen's selective re-telling of the story makes her look like a snide tbh.

[MrWong]

12.07am: Helen has decided to leave her argument with Ashleigh and Chris until tomorrow. We shall see....#BBUKLive

[Speedster]

Well, I do think she's pretty but I think mostly chris is on his way to being smashed. They're all drinking, including Chris.

[jet]

Helen completely twisted what they said and missed their entire point.

She's a bit thick, hypersensitive to criticism and jumps to conclusions = trouble! :eek:

[erinp5]

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[erinp5]

Helen Wood’s been left fuming in the Big Brother UK house this evening after doing some sneaky eavesdropping.



While in the toilet, she overheard Chris R Wright and Ashleigh Coyle bitching about her.

The pair claimed Helen’s not changed since Day 1 despite them both giving her the benefit of the doubt.

“She is you and mine nightmare at school, I always look at her and go ‘If I was at school with you, I’d ******ing hate you’” a rather drunk Chris declared.

He told Ashleigh: “She would’ve been a b***h to you at school. She’d have been an absolute t***pot.”



Ashleigh replied: “She would’ve probably destroyed my life at school.”

Helen was quick to tell others of what she heard, dragging Mark Byron into the bog to reveal all: “Wow, I just listened to me getting ******ing slagged off. I cant believe what I heard.”

She waned him: “Do not repeat what I’m saying, they don’t know I heard.”

Mark suggested: “You’ll have to say something.”

But Helen insisted she wouldn’t be launching into one of her trademark verbal attacks (yet), saying: “I will be false as ****** to the point that they’re uncomfortable.”


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[Speedster]

No doubt Helen will still be viewed as the badguy in this too :laugh:

Yep-perfect opportunity for people to accuse her of "leading him on". :sleep:

[Lex]

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What a fecking ****-stirrer that Winston is! ...."You're not going to win, so get stuck in lass"! :joker:

[erinp5]

8TG0kn-cPSs

[Lex]

8TG0kn-cPSs


Awe come on Ash...hurry up out of the diary room!...Ashleigh needs to get in there and tear a strip off of Helen again before bed-time!...because she's not afraid to tell it how it is!! ...in there. :joker:

[mrflibble]

And she confronts them to their face instead of bitching behind their backs. OH WAIT.

[Dollface]

And she confronts them to their face instead of bitching behind their backs. OH WAIT.

:hehe:

[Ammi]

ZffGcbvafGE

Watch our House comedian pour his heart out to Helen after he's had a few.

..ughhh, she's awful...they had both been drinking and she was just as much agreeing that she would love to go abroad with him/no cameras..it was just drunk talk and then she goes straight outside and ridicule him/pokes fun at the conversation...straight talking Helen pffft...and Ashleigh is thought of as a pampered pooch...'I don't so my own hair/my own make-up'..down to earth 'real' Helen..oh yeah....

[Ammi]

The School stuff was uncalled for. Making her out to be some nightmare Bully that would terrorise everyone. It would be like me going "Oh, Asheligh would of been terrible in School. Pretty ****ing Beauty Queen up her ass her with pretty girl clique". Other than that...meh it's not bad.


..I'm sorry Leon but that's what Helen represents to a lot of people inside and outside of the BB house...yeah, I agree many could say the same about Ashleigh and how she sneers when she talks about someone and it's that person at school who you felt was talking about you..?..and made you feel rubbish..I get that/Ashleigh doesn't smile much, I'm not going to pretend she does...so maybe people have encountered and 'Ashleigh' in their life in the past and that provokes things they actively dislike in a person so that's all they see...?...the difference though here is that Chris and Ashleigh were both saying that Helen represented everything they disliked in a person and yet somehow they liked her/they saw other qualities in her..(and tbh, it's also what a lot of her fans have said when they started off not liking her and then saw other parts to her...a 'deeper character' and not just what you see on the surface..?...)...we all have multi aspects to ourselves and we see that by spending time together and getting to know each other and that's the whole point of what they were saying..that's something though that Helen has not seemed to also do...she hasn't been on a journey at all and still only 'hears' what she wants to hear and everything she hears is negative/she turns everything into a negative...there was so much positive in what they were saying..yeah there was negative as well...it's impossible not to see the negative in Helen but why couldn't she have also taken on the positive in that they were saying that they liked her regardless at having got to know her better/that there were nice aspects to her character...but she immediately twisted what they said and removed all good things from that conversation...and that for me starts to wipe our her positives for me because regardless of how complex her character is or how much understanding I would have for her with things she's gone through etc...the results and reality is the same...she turns people's personalities back on themselves/removes all nice things about others and sees people as just 'hostile objects' and the result of that is to make people around her feel fairly miserable which is the effect she appears to have had on many in the house all the way through and most people (in the real world..)... would just not want to spend time with someone like that....

[Creggle]

..I'm sorry Leon but that's what Helen represents to a lot of people inside and outside of the BB house...yeah, I agree many could say the same about Ashleigh and how she sneers when she talks about someone and it's that person at school who you felt was talking about you..?..and made you feel rubbish..I get that/Ashleigh doesn't smile much, I'm not going to pretend she does...so maybe people have encountered and 'Ashleigh' in their life in the past and that provokes things they actively dislike in a person so that's all they see...?...the difference though here is that Chris and Ashleigh were both saying that Helen represented everything they disliked in a person and yet somehow they liked her/they saw other qualities in her..(and tbh, it's also what a lot of her fans have said when they started off not liking her and then saw other parts to her...a 'deeper character' and not just what you see on the surface..?...)...we all have multi aspects to ourselves and we see that by spending time together and getting to know each other and that's the whole point of what they were saying..that's something though that Helen has not seemed to also do...she hasn't been on a journey at all and still only 'hears' what she wants to hear and everything she hears is negative/she turns everything into a negative...there was so much positive in what they were saying..yeah there was negative as well...it's impossible not to see the negative in Helen but why couldn't she have also taken on the positive in that they were saying that they liked her regardless at having got to know her better/that there were nice aspects to her character...but she immediately twisted what they said and removed all good things from that conversation...and that for me starts to wipe our her positives for me because regardless of how complex her character is or how much understanding I would have for her with things she's gone through etc...the results and reality is the same...she turns people's personalities back on themselves/removes all nice things about others and sees people as just 'hostile objects' and the result of that is to make people around her feel fairly miserable which is the effect she appears to have had on many in the house all the way through and most people (in the real world..)... would just not want to spend time with someone like that....

Your posts are awesome, but please, paragraphs. :joker:

[sampvt]

The only bullies in there are Chris and mostly Ashleigh. They are the worst type by inferring scenarios to each other behind peoples backs, then using that info to ostracise others by the power of gossip, innuendo and mis information. At least Helen takes the bull by the horns and calls a spade for a spade.

[calyman]

The only bullies in there are Chris and mostly Ashleigh. They are the worst type by inferring scenarios to each other behind peoples backs, then using that info to ostracise others by the power of gossip, innuendo and mis information. At least Helen takes the bull by the horns and calls a spade for a spade.
You are quite right. Helen overhears a conversation by obviously legitimate means. She then chooses not to engage with Ashleigh and Chris about what she overheard while her neck was wedged in the doorway. Instead she immediately confronts Mark and "tells it as it is", still choosing not to have any dialogue with the errant pair. Helen clearly deals with this in her usual passive and even-handed manner.

[joeysteele]

For me,it remains 6 of one and half a dozen of the other,eavesdroppers rarely hear good things about themselves as the saying goes.
Chris however has been really crawling around Helen recently and Ashleigh has had her painted smile on more that usual when around her too.

What actually surprises me is that Helen would possibly expect to hear much good as to her from Ashleigh, she saw ages ago from BB playing back the vts that Ashleigh is 2 faced and while a good few of Helen's faults remain, one thing that has never changed in that house is Ashleigh being 2 faced.
Always slating a housemate/s behind others backs.

Helen should hold her temper and just ignore her really,the safest thing for Helen to do is ignore Ashleigh, Ashleigh is not worth time and effort of any friendliness since I doubt anyone can really know where they stand with that girl or what she will say about them behind their backs.

These 2 could never be friends anyway so I would never be surprised at any hostility betweem them.
If I was Helen, I would talk to Ashleigh as to BB matters and tasks and have nothing else to do with her at all.
As for Chris,well he is always the one Ashleigh gossips or pulls others down to,I am surprised at his comments in this however since he has been 'Helen's newest admirer' on the surface for the last 2 weeks now.

[Kazanne]

In a few words Ashleigh is one crafty,nasty ,spiteful girl,I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her,horrible person

[Niamh.]

They both said they were surprised at how much they're liking her now despite being wary of her still, yet Helen can't wait to tell her lapdogs.

Isn't that a kind of compliment? What is wrong with Helen?

[chuff me dizzy]

Chris is a bit merry and compliments a girl, big deal. BB are really pushing a character assassination with this ''creepy'' stuff, it's crass.

:clap1:

[chuff me dizzy]

Awe come on Ash...hurry up out of the diary room!...Ashleigh needs to get in there and tear a strip off of Helen again before bed-time!...because she's not afraid to tell it how it is!! ...in there. :joker:

:clap1:

[rusticgal]

Helen Wood’s been left fuming in the Big Brother UK house this evening after doing some sneaky eavesdropping.



While in the toilet, she overheard Chris R Wright and Ashleigh Coyle bitching about her.

The pair claimed Helen’s not changed since Day 1 despite them both giving her the benefit of the doubt.

“She is you and mine nightmare at school, I always look at her and go ‘If I was at school with you, I’d ******ing hate you’” a rather drunk Chris declared.

He told Ashleigh: “She would’ve been a b***h to you at school. She’d have been an absolute t***pot.”



Ashleigh replied: “She would’ve probably destroyed my life at school.”

Helen was quick to tell others of what she heard, dragging Mark Byron into the bog to reveal all: “Wow, I just listened to me getting ******ing slagged off. I cant believe what I heard.”

She waned him: “Do not repeat what I’m saying, they don’t know I heard.”

Mark suggested: “You’ll have to say something.”

But Helen insisted she wouldn’t be launching into one of her trademark verbal attacks (yet), saying: “I will be false as ****** to the point that they’re uncomfortable.”


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...but they also said they have grown to like her...that's the bit Helen has chosen not to repeat....that was the point of the discussion.

[erinp5]

10.20am: Helen is telling Mark about the conversation she heard Chris and Ashleigh having about her last night. Ouch


10.34am: Chris is working to piece together last night's conversations. He's not sure why Helen's angry

[rusticgal]

..I'm sorry Leon but that's what Helen represents to a lot of people inside and outside of the BB house...yeah, I agree many could say the same about Ashleigh and how she sneers when she talks about someone and it's that person at school who you felt was talking about you..?..and made you feel rubbish..I get that/Ashleigh doesn't smile much, I'm not going to pretend she does...so maybe people have encountered and 'Ashleigh' in their life in the past and that provokes things they actively dislike in a person so that's all they see...?...the difference though here is that Chris and Ashleigh were both saying that Helen represented everything they disliked in a person and yet somehow they liked her/they saw other qualities in her..(and tbh, it's also what a lot of her fans have said when they started off not liking her and then saw other parts to her...a 'deeper character' and not just what you see on the surface..?...)...we all have multi aspects to ourselves and we see that by spending time together and getting to know each other and that's the whole point of what they were saying..that's something though that Helen has not seemed to also do...she hasn't been on a journey at all and still only 'hears' what she wants to hear and everything she hears is negative/she turns everything into a negative...there was so much positive in what they were saying..yeah there was negative as well...it's impossible not to see the negative in Helen but why couldn't she have also taken on the positive in that they were saying that they liked her regardless at having got to know her better/that there were nice aspects to her character...but she immediately twisted what they said and removed all good things from that conversation...and that for me starts to wipe our her positives for me because regardless of how complex her character is or how much understanding I would have for her with things she's gone through etc...the results and reality is the same...she turns people's personalities back on themselves/removes all nice things about others and sees people as just 'hostile objects' and the result of that is to make people around her feel fairly miserable which is the effect she appears to have had on many in the house all the way through and most people (in the real world..)... would just not want to spend time with someone like that....

:clap1::clap1::clap1::clap1::clap1:

[rusticgal]

You are quite right. Helen overhears a conversation by obviously legitimate means. She then chooses not to engage with Ashleigh and Chris about what she overheard while her neck was wedged in the doorway. Instead she immediately confronts Mark and "tells it as it is", still choosing not to have any dialogue with the errant pair. Helen clearly deals with this in her usual passive and even-handed manner.

:joker:

[erinp5]

Helen Wood is planning her revenge on Ashleigh Coyle and Chris R Wright in the BBUK house.



It’s after she was left fuming when overhearing the pair b***h about her.

Speaking to Winston in the early hours of this morning, Helen said: “I’ve just literally heard Chris and Ashleigh sl*g me off to ******.

“They’re only making an effort with me because they have to, ‘I’m a nightmare’…

“I’ve bigged them up in the Diary Room so much and then they just slagged me off. And people wonder why I’m a ****?”



Helen vowed: I’m going to get my own back, I’m just not going to tell them. I feel like ****ing all over their pillows.

“Why are they even talking about me, I’ve not even done anything to them?”

But then in a shocking case of hypocrisy, not only did Helen begin to sl*g Ashleigh off she did so by saying the exact same things that the Northern Irish housemate had said about her.

“I don’t particularly like Ashleigh but I’ve got on with her because I’ve had to,” Helen ranted. “In the real word I’d turn around and say to her, ‘I can’t ******ing stand you, do not speak to me do not look at me, do not cross my path, I can’t ******ing stand you.”

Helen declared that she would “seize her chance” later today to confront the pair.


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:joker::joker:

[rusticgal]

Helen Wood is planning her revenge on Ashleigh Coyle and Chris R Wright in the BBUK house.



It’s after she was left fuming when overhearing the pair b***h about her.

Speaking to Winston in the early hours of this morning, Helen said: “I’ve just literally heard Chris and Ashleigh sl*g me off to ******.

“They’re only making an effort with me because they have to, ‘I’m a nightmare’…

“I’ve bigged them up in the Diary Room so much and then they just slagged me off. And people wonder why I’m a ****?”



Helen vowed: I’m going to get my own back, I’m just not going to tell them. I feel like ****ing all over their pillows.

“Why are they even talking about me, I’ve not even done anything to them?”

But then in a shocking case of hypocrisy, not only did Helen begin to sl*g Ashleigh off she did so by saying the exact same things that the Northern Irish housemate had said about her.

“I don’t particularly like Ashleigh but I’ve got on with her because I’ve had to,” Helen ranted. “In the real word I’d turn around and say to her, ‘I can’t ******ing stand you, do not speak to me do not look at me, do not cross my path, I can’t ******ing stand you.”

Helen declared that she would “seize her chance” later today to confront the pair.


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:joker::joker:


Helens just making a complete fool of herself. We can all see the conversation Chris and Ashleigh had...it was a rounded conversation good and bad...but Helens just twisted it and telling everyone else something different....she is rounding up her troops and then will attack...just like she did with Jale and Kimberley.
I wonder how the others will react?....considering they are taking what Helen has said at face value....could be interesting (we know the truth of the convo)....looks like Helen is going to go out as she came in...arguing...twisting and just down right nasty.

[Niamh.]

But then in a shocking case of hypocrisy, not only did Helen begin to sl*g Ashleigh off she did so by saying the exact same things that the Northern Irish housemate had said about her.

“I don’t particularly like Ashleigh but I’ve got on with her because I’ve had to,” Helen ranted. “In the real word I’d turn around and say to her, ‘I can’t ******ing stand you, do not speak to me do not look at me, do not cross my path, I can’t ******ing stand you.”

:hehe:

[rusticgal]

But then in a shocking case of hypocrisy, not only did Helen begin to sl*g Ashleigh off she did so by saying the exact same things that the Northern Irish housemate had said about her.

“I don’t particularly like Ashleigh but I’ve got on with her because I’ve had to,” Helen ranted. “In the real word I’d turn around and say to her, ‘I can’t ******ing stand you, do not speak to me do not look at me, do not cross my path, I can’t ******ing stand you.”

:hehe:


She is a total hypocrite Niamh...

[bbfan1991]

..I'm sorry Leon but that's what Helen represents to a lot of people inside and outside of the BB house...yeah, I agree many could say the same about Ashleigh and how she sneers when she talks about someone and it's that person at school who you felt was talking about you..?..and made you feel rubbish..I get that/Ashleigh doesn't smile much, I'm not going to pretend she does...so maybe people have encountered and 'Ashleigh' in their life in the past and that provokes things they actively dislike in a person so that's all they see...?...the difference though here is that Chris and Ashleigh were both saying that Helen represented everything they disliked in a person and yet somehow they liked her/they saw other qualities in her..(and tbh, it's also what a lot of her fans have said when they started off not liking her and then saw other parts to her...a 'deeper character' and not just what you see on the surface..?...)...we all have multi aspects to ourselves and we see that by spending time together and getting to know each other and that's the whole point of what they were saying..that's something though that Helen has not seemed to also do...she hasn't been on a journey at all and still only 'hears' what she wants to hear and everything she hears is negative/she turns everything into a negative...there was so much positive in what they were saying..yeah there was negative as well...it's impossible not to see the negative in Helen but why couldn't she have also taken on the positive in that they were saying that they liked her regardless at having got to know her better/that there were nice aspects to her character...but she immediately twisted what they said and removed all good things from that conversation...and that for me starts to wipe our her positives for me because regardless of how complex her character is or how much understanding I would have for her with things she's gone through etc...the results and reality is the same...she turns people's personalities back on themselves/removes all nice things about others and sees people as just 'hostile objects' and the result of that is to make people around her feel fairly miserable which is the effect she appears to have had on many in the house all the way through and most people (in the real world..)... would just not want to spend time with someone like that....


WOW. That is Helen analysed accurately down to a tee, she is horrid.

[bbfan1991]

Wasn't it Ash who stole the fags too? Yet Helen could not wait to blame Christopher.

11.06am: Ashleigh, Chris and Helen are hashing out last night's drama. Get it all out, guys. #BBUKLive

[Niamh.]

Wasn't it Ash who stole the fags too? Yet Helen could not wait to blame Christopher.

11.06am: Ashleigh, Chris and Helen are hashing out last night's drama. Get it all out, guys. #BBUKLive

I would love if BB then played Helens behind their backs bitching for them.........of course that won't be considered bitching :umm2:

[erinp5]

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[bbfan1991]

I don't remember them saying that Helen was a disaster? Either it was something BB did not broadcast in the clip or Helen is making it up to make herself look good to her cronies and the public.

[*mazedsalv**]

She took it all out of context!!

[bbfan1991]

She took it all out of context!!

Helen isn't the sharpest tool in the box, she'll be fuming on Friday when her cronie Mark gets the boot.

[bbfan1991]

RE Winston. He is deliberately egging her on so she'll lose her temper more, whilst he is right saying to her face that she has no chance of winning the show it's still arrogant of him to say.

Winston is playing up on this drama to make himself look good in the process and strengthen his gameplan, which it's a game fair enough, but the public aren't stupid.

[Samm]

Helen could of easily made her look like the victim but she fails again

[Samm]

omg

Chris: heyyyyy

Helen: *walks of and doesn't speak*

I laughed

[MrWong]

ZyAG8wIvfG8

Helen "I've been 2 faced"

Straight from the horses mouth :hehe:

[Samm]

Helen: the truth comes out when your drunk

lmao coming from her

[MrWong]

But then in a shocking case of hypocrisy, not only did Helen begin to sl*g Ashleigh off she did so by saying the exact same things that the Northern Irish housemate had said about her.

“I don’t particularly like Ashleigh but I’ve got on with her because I’ve had to,” Helen ranted. “In the real word I’d turn around and say to her, ‘I can’t ******ing stand you, do not speak to me do not look at me, do not cross my path, I can’t ******ing stand you.”

:hehe:

But she's up front and honest? She tells it as it is?

Oh dear :D

[Niamh.]

But she's up front and honest? She tells it as it is?

Oh dear :D

yes yes Helen, honestly a nasty, aggressive, bully :pat:

[rubymoo]

I said it on another thread that a bitchy nasty streak is really hard to get rid of once it's ingrained.

Helen heard what she wanted to hear, she took it all out of context and i actually feel sorry for her, because she's faced with a life of negativity, heartache and sadness.

If you put out negativity you will get back negativity.

[poppsywoppsy]

I have been saying this all along, Helen has got away with so much and let off constantly by BB, but only up till now.

They are going to sling everything her way to make her explode once her free pass expires.

Always did think this would be the pattern, but hey, it couldn't happen to a more deserving person.

[Patricia4]

After seeing them Nom face to face the only real people in there for me is Chris and Pav.
Helen didn't hear anything bad about her being said by Chris and Ashleigh she just needs to let off steam about someone or somebody.Let her bring it on and I hope them two man up and give her it for jumping the gun what they said which was nothing.

[jet]

Helen "I've been 2 faced"

Straight from the horses mouth :hehe:

Then she goes on to say the things she really feels about Ashleigh. Earlier she was saying she liked Ashleigh now...
The 'tell it like it is' Helen was only an excuse to be nasty and vile.
Of course, most of us knew already she was two - faced. The public/polls even voted her most two - faced.

[Creggle]

Can't wait for her to have a go at Ashleigh, she literally can't say anything to her that's even remotely insulting whilst Ashleigh can slay her for the work she's had done and for being a hypocrite/horrible cow.

Oh please, rip her to pieces in front of the nation and bring Ash over to the resistance.

[bots]

The point is that Helen is in control of her emotions where she appeared not to be previously (still think that was the acting part) What has she actually done in that video thats wrong? Is she not entitled to speak to a friend when she thinks she has been disrespected? Did she get in someones face and threaten them?

The interesting one in that video was Winston goading her in to having a confrontation and hope to improve his own chances of winning - great stuff

[chuff me dizzy]

Can't wait for her to have a go at Ashleigh, she literally can't say anything to her that's even remotely insulting whilst Ashleigh can slay her for the work she's had done and for being a hypocrite/horrible cow.

Oh please, rip her to pieces in front of the nation and bring Ash over to the resistance.

I wait with baited breath to see what Ashleigh says to her ,she will make straight for diary room with her teddy in hand ,she won't face up to Helen :bored:

[rubymoo]

They all want Helen to have a meltdown so that's one less on finals night (with the exception of Ash).

[rubymoo]

I wait with baited breath to see what Ashleigh says to her ,she will make straight for diary room with her teddy in hand ,she won't face up to Helen :bored:

Ashleigh won't say anything, just like the supposed argument where Ashleigh stuck up for Christopher, Ashleigh doesn't argue.

[poppsywoppsy]

I wait with baited breath to see what Ashleigh says to her ,she will make straight for diary room with her teddy in hand ,she won't face up to Helen :bored:

She already has previously, she will do it again, if she does she will win BB.

[chuff me dizzy]

RE Winston. He is deliberately egging her on so she'll lose her temper more, whilst he is right saying to her face that she has no chance of winning the show it's still arrogant of him to say.

Winston is playing up on this drama to make himself look good in the process and strengthen his gameplan, which it's a game fair enough, but the public aren't stupid.

:clap1: Sadly some of the public ARE stupid

[chuff me dizzy]

She already has previously, she will do it again, if she does she will win BB.

Not once has she confronted Helen

[Patricia4]

Just watch a video on the website and Chris is all sorry he cant remember what he said about Helen.
He's all sorry,Chris get some BA*LS you silly man.

[chuff me dizzy]

Ashleigh won't say anything, just like the supposed argument where Ashleigh stuck up for Christopher, Ashleigh doesn't argue.

Just runs to the diary room for a bit of one to one camera time, silly pissing teddy bear in hand

[HBB1508]

Oh I do wish Chris would stand up for himself - he is starting to annoy me being wet all the time.

[chuff me dizzy]

Oh I do wish Chris would stand up for himself - he is starting to annoy me being wet all the time.

I think he's just a nice bloke ,and respectful of women ,nothing wrong with that really

[Creggle]

I wait with baited breath to see what Ashleigh says to her ,she will make straight for diary room with her teddy in hand ,she won't face up to Helen :bored:

She has done in the past, and she's been slaying Helen all week to her face, Helen just took it and ran off to bitch about her to other housemates. :hehe:

[HBB1508]

I think he's just a nice bloke ,and respectful of women ,nothing wrong with that really

I know Chuff and I guess as he was a bit tipsy he can't remember all he said, but I just wish he would stand up for himself sometimes - not in an aggressive way but just get his point across in a civilised manner.

[chuff me dizzy]

She has done in the past, and she's been slaying Helen all week to her face, Helen just took it and ran off to bitch about her to other housemates. :hehe:

Not once has she confronted Helen

[chuff me dizzy]

I know Chuff and I guess as he was a bit tipsy he can't remember all he said, but I just wish he would stand up for himself sometimes - not in an aggressive way but just get his point across in a civilised manner.

My hubby is a mild mannered man like Chris, is a lovely trait in people, nothing can rile him I see the same thing in Chris

[beardedbloke]

..I'm sorry Leon but that's what Helen represents to a lot of people inside and outside of the BB house...yeah, I agree many could say the same about Ashleigh and how she sneers when she talks about someone and it's that person at school who you felt was talking about you..?..and made you feel rubbish..I get that/Ashleigh doesn't smile much, I'm not going to pretend she does...so maybe people have encountered and 'Ashleigh' in their life in the past and that provokes things they actively dislike in a person so that's all they see...?...the difference though here is that Chris and Ashleigh were both saying that Helen represented everything they disliked in a person and yet somehow they liked her/they saw other qualities in her..(and tbh, it's also what a lot of her fans have said when they started off not liking her and then saw other parts to her...a 'deeper character' and not just what you see on the surface..?...)...we all have multi aspects to ourselves and we see that by spending time together and getting to know each other and that's the whole point of what they were saying..that's something though that Helen has not seemed to also do...she hasn't been on a journey at all and still only 'hears' what she wants to hear and everything she hears is negative/she turns everything into a negative...there was so much positive in what they were saying..yeah there was negative as well...it's impossible not to see the negative in Helen but why couldn't she have also taken on the positive in that they were saying that they liked her regardless at having got to know her better/that there were nice aspects to her character...but she immediately twisted what they said and removed all good things from that conversation...and that for me starts to wipe our her positives for me because regardless of how complex her character is or how much understanding I would have for her with things she's gone through etc...the results and reality is the same...she turns people's personalities back on themselves/removes all nice things about others and sees people as just 'hostile objects' and the result of that is to make people around her feel fairly miserable which is the effect she appears to have had on many in the house all the way through and most people (in the real world..)... would just not want to spend time with someone like that....

What a fantastic post Ammi.

[Creggle]

Not once has she confronted Helen

No, but she's been confronted and shat all over Helen, frustrated her and made her regret it. When she's so much better than Helen, confronting and slaying her would be bullying.

[chuff me dizzy]

No, but she's been confronted and shat all over Helen, frustrated her and made her regret it. When she's so much better than Helen, confronting and slaying her would be bullying.

Not once has she confronted Helen, just promised to and bottled it

[beardedbloke]

looking at Helen's body language and facial expression, you can tell that she KNOWS she is lying. She KNOWS they were saying they like her now IN SPITE of her faults. This is a compliment, not an insult.

If Helen really believed that Ashleigh and Chris were calling her a 'nightmare' etc. she would be hurt or angry. Look at her body language and face. She is neither.

She is calculating and cruel. She's thinking 'right, I've got them now'. She's been biding her time to pounce on Ashleigh because Helen is jealous as hell of Ashleigh.

Helen now sees this as her perfect opportunity to maul and scratch and go in for the kill.

I do hope the public can see all this.

[Samm]

Just runs to the diary room for a bit of one to one camera time, silly pissing teddy bear in hand

That's what the diary room is talking about another housemates getting angry out :umm2:

She's hardly in the diary room so I don't see why you have said some think about camera time

[jet]

The point is that Helen is in control of her emotions where she appeared not to be previously (still think that was the acting part) What has she actually done in that video thats wrong? Is she not entitled to speak to a friend when she thinks she has been disrespected? Did she get in someones face and threaten them?

The interesting one in that video was Winston goading her in to having a confrontation and hope to improve his own chances of winning - great stuff

Just like Ashleigh was in control of her emotions when she talked to her friend about Helen's nastiness and bullying behaviour of other HM's. Do you agree she was entitled to do that? Ashleigh wasn't even thinking of herself, but of the treatment others were getting.

[Creggle]

looking at Helen's body language and facial expression, you can tell that she KNOWS she is lying. She KNOWS they were saying they like her now IN SPITE of her faults. This is a compliment, not an insult.

If Helen really believed that Ashleigh and Chris were calling her a 'nightmare' etc. she would be hurt or angry. Look at her body language and face. She is neither.

She is calculating and cruel. She's thinking 'right, I've got them now'. She's been biding her time to pounce on Ashleigh because Helen is jealous as hell of Ashleigh.

Helen now sees this as her perfect opportunity to maul and scratch and go in for the kill.

I do hope the public can see all this.

Nobody will back her up though, if anything Winston and Ash will tell her to ****. Great post though.

Not once has she confronted Helen, just promised to and bottled it

When did she promise to? That was the public who fabricated that, she is capable of destroying Helen in 3 seconds flat in a confrontation, she has before and if Helen stupidly brings looks into the equation that would be like radioing a orbital nuclear strike on her own head against somebody like Ashleigh. I can't wait. :cheer2:

[jet]

Not once has she confronted Helen

What would you like Ashleigh to confront her about?

[Kizzy]

I'm really glad she reacted the way she did... that wouldn't have happened before she would've steamed in.
She's waiting till today to discuss it sober, good on you helen.

[beardedbloke]

Isn't that a kind of compliment? What is wrong with Helen?

that's right Niamh, it is a compliment. If someone liked me in spite of my faults, I see that as a good thing.

Helen knows what they said and she knows they were being positive about her. She's just gleeful that she can twist certain phrases against them.

helen is one nasty piece of work, looking out for any excuse to pounce and attack.

[joeysteele]

I'm really glad she reacted the way she did... that wouldn't have happened before she would've steamed in.
She's waiting till today to discuss it sober, good on you helen.

That is right,she may even see it differently today too, I wouldn't bet on that however.:joker:

[jet]

looking at Helen's body language and facial expression, you can tell that she KNOWS she is lying. She KNOWS they were saying they like her now IN SPITE of her faults. This is a compliment, not an insult.

If Helen really believed that Ashleigh and Chris were calling her a 'nightmare' etc. she would be hurt or angry. Look at her body language and face. She is neither.

She is calculating and cruel. She's thinking 'right, I've got them now'. She's been biding her time to pounce on Ashleigh because Helen is jealous as hell of Ashleigh.

Helen now sees this as her perfect opportunity to maul and scratch and go in for the kill.

I do hope the public can see all this.

:clap1: Exactly my thoughts when I watched it. I wonder how it will be edited though?

[jet]

..I'm sorry Leon but that's what Helen represents to a lot of people inside and outside of the BB house...yeah, I agree many could say the same about Ashleigh and how she sneers when she talks about someone and it's that person at school who you felt was talking about you..?..and made you feel rubbish..I get that/Ashleigh doesn't smile much, I'm not going to pretend she does...so maybe people have encountered and 'Ashleigh' in their life in the past and that provokes things they actively dislike in a person so that's all they see...?...the difference though here is that Chris and Ashleigh were both saying that Helen represented everything they disliked in a person and yet somehow they liked her/they saw other qualities in her..(and tbh, it's also what a lot of her fans have said when they started off not liking her and then saw other parts to her...a 'deeper character' and not just what you see on the surface..?...)...we all have multi aspects to ourselves and we see that by spending time together and getting to know each other and that's the whole point of what they were saying..that's something though that Helen has not seemed to also do...she hasn't been on a journey at all and still only 'hears' what she wants to hear and everything she hears is negative/she turns everything into a negative...there was so much positive in what they were saying..yeah there was negative as well...it's impossible not to see the negative in Helen but why couldn't she have also taken on the positive in that they were saying that they liked her regardless at having got to know her better/that there were nice aspects to her character...but she immediately twisted what they said and removed all good things from that conversation...and that for me starts to wipe our her positives for me because regardless of how complex her character is or how much understanding I would have for her with things she's gone through etc...the results and reality is the same...she turns people's personalities back on themselves/removes all nice things about others and sees people as just 'hostile objects' and the result of that is to make people around her feel fairly miserable which is the effect she appears to have had on many in the house all the way through and most people (in the real world..)... would just not want to spend time with someone like that....

Brilliant post Ammi. You take time to really observe and have a real understanding of people and what makes them tick. :clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Kizzy]

Had she heard the whole convo it may have been different..

[Brother Leon]

Ashleigh telling Winston she told Chris that Helen is a beautiful woman with banging body. Either these Youtube vids show us nothing or her and Helen are both full of **** :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

That's what the diary room is talking about another housemates getting angry out :umm2:

She's hardly in the diary room so I don't see why you have said some think about camera time

But she's said for weeks and weeks she going to tell Helen to her face ,not once has she done it

[Jake.]

Not suprised at Helen not paying attention to the whole conversation and flying off the handle.. she's a hypocrite too, claiming that neither Chris or Ashleigh should have pretended to get along with her because they 'had to', yet claimed that she's only getting on with Asheligh because she's in the house...

"I don’t particularly like Ashleigh but I’ve got on with her because I’ve had to. In the real word I’d turn around and say to her, ‘I can’t ******ing stand you, do not speak to me do not look at me, do not cross my path, I can’t ******ing stand you."

[chuff me dizzy]

Nobody will back her up though, if anything Winston and Ash will tell her to ****. Great post though.



When did she promise to? That was the public who fabricated that, she is capable of destroying Helen in 3 seconds flat in a confrontation, she has before and if Helen stupidly brings looks into the equation that would be like radioing a orbital nuclear strike on her own head against somebody like Ashleigh. I can't wait. :cheer2:

:pat::laugh3::laugh3:

[jet]

But she's said for weeks and weeks she going to tell Helen to her face ,not once has she done it

Tell Helen what to her face? :conf:
Could you give examples?

[Samm]

But she's said for weeks and weeks she going to tell Helen to her face ,not once has she done it

She hasn't said that once

[chuff me dizzy]

She hasn't said that once

Selective memory :bored:

[Creggle]

Selective memory :bored:

Can you tell us when she said it? Closest I've seen to anyone saying they'll have her is Danielle, who bottled it when Ashleigh got pounced on and beat Helen and Kimbot at the same damn time. :cheer2:

[jet]

Not suprised at Helen not paying attention to the whole conversation and flying off the handle.. she's a hypocrite too, claiming that neither Chris or Ashleigh should have pretended to get along with her because they 'had to', yet claimed that she's only getting on with Asheligh because she's in the house...

"I don’t particularly like Ashleigh but I’ve got on with her because I’ve had to. In the real word I’d turn around and say to her, ‘I can’t ******ing stand you, do not speak to me do not look at me, do not cross my path, I can’t ******ing stand you."

Exactly. But any post that contradicts what some people want to hear is rarely answered or discussed sensibly.
Take, for example, the fact that Helen has been shown without doubt to be two - faced. I haven't seen one post that admits to that from those who go on and on about Ashleigh being two faced. It's okay for Helen to do it, but the worst thing in the world if Ashleigh does it.
Which is the way Helen looks at it too....

[chuff me dizzy]

Can you tell us when she said it? Closest I've seen to anyone saying they'll have her is Danielle, who bottled it when Ashleigh got pounced on and beat Helen and Kimbot at the same damn time. :cheer2:

Bless :pat:

[Creggle]

Bless :pat:

:grin2:

But tell me, I'm genuinely curious. :laugh:

[jet]

:grin2:

But tell me, I'm genuinely curious. :laugh:

So am I. :conf:

[chuff me dizzy]

:grin2:

But tell me, I'm genuinely curious. :laugh:

Im sorry Im no ones laccy ,please loo through Erins videos all evidence of Ashleighs cowardice and threats are in there

[susie q]

She has to be the first one out on the final night.

[bots]

If Helen's behaviour is accepted more than Ashleigh's these days its because she comes across as being more straightforward and natural. I'm not seeing much in Ashleigh that is not being driven by some hidden motive :shrug:

[jet]

Im sorry Im no ones laccy ,please loo through Erins videos all evidence of Ashleighs cowardice and threats are in there

:joker::joker::joker: I have my answer. Ashleigh didn't say any such thing, and you know it.

[Creggle]

Im sorry Im no ones laccy ,please loo through Erins videos all evidence of Ashleighs cowardice and threats are in there

Who's Erin? I'm not expecting you to be a lacky lol, I was genuinely just asking. :shrug:

[rubymoo]

I think everyone's view of a confrontation is different, my view of a confrontation is to go up and say "why did you say this about me.....i heard you say it" then quite possibly argue my point, Ashleigh has never done this, in the beginning she was saying how vile Helen was which was true! And that she was going to say it to her face, but it never happened, then when Helen did confront her Ashleighs reply was a bit a wet flannel! Your view of a confrontation maybe to have a little chat and someone else's view maybe that a confrontation is a Kat Slater moment.

We're all different .

Just so you know, i don't like confrontation so would go with the little chat:)

[rubymoo]

Who's Erin? I'm not expecting you to be a lacky lol, I was genuinely just asking. :shrug:

Erin posts a lot of the video's on this forum:wavey:

[bbfan1991]

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Go Ashleigh and Chris!!

[bbfan1991]

I understand why Helen is upset, even though she twisted what was said and went running back to her close friends in there.

Helen is trying to save face now with the public, worrying she has ruined her redemption arc. Good idea just to be civil since the end is nigh for all of them.

[Vanessa]

Ashleigh is very two faced. I'm glad Helen knows this now.

[Ellen]

Ashleigh is very two faced. I'm glad Helen knows this now.

Very true Vanessa. Helen approached it like she did with Chris regarding the bitching comment.

[bbfan1991]

Ashleigh remembers what was said. She had a bit to drink, but Chris was very drunk so obviously he couldn't remember.

[rubymoo]

Lol!

Helen wants them to be upfront with her yet Helen slags everyone off behind their backs...pot and kettle?

Ashleigh and Chris handled themselves well, love the fact that Chris can't remember what was said.

To me that was more a discussion albeit an uncomfortable one!

[bbfan1991]

Lol!

Helen wants them to be upfront with her yet Helen slags everyone off behind their backs...pot and kettle?

Ashleigh and Chris handled themselves well, love the fact that Chris can't remember what was said.

To me that was more a discussion albeit an uncomfortable one!

Helen lacks any self awareness.

[chuff me dizzy]

Ashleigh is very two faced. I'm glad Helen knows this now.

Yes ,Helen has tried to give Ashleigh the benefit of the doubt,despite knowing deep down she's a nasty snake in the grass, she learned her lesson last night

[Vanessa]

Yes ,Helen has tried to give Ashleigh the benefit of the doubt,despite knowing deep down she's a nasty snake in the grass, she learned her lesson last night

Agreed. At least Helen says things to people's faces. Ashleigh just doesn't have the guts.

[jet]

I think everyone's view of a confrontation is different, my view of a confrontation is to go up and say "why did you say this about me.....i heard you say it" then quite possibly argue my point, Ashleigh has never done this, in the beginning she was saying how vile Helen was which was true! And that she was going to say it to her face, but it never happened, then when Helen did confront her Ashleighs reply was a bit a wet flannel! Your view of a confrontation maybe to have a little chat and someone else's view maybe that a confrontation is a Kat Slater moment.

We're all different .

Just so you know, i don't like confrontation so would go with the little chat:)

No, you are playing twisty twist again. Ashleigh said if Helen started in on her she wouldn't sit there and take it. The only time Helen did confront her was after seeing the vid with Kim and Jale, when she ran out all smug and delighted with her back - up and her cronies gathered around her as her audience. If you watched the vid of that you will know Ashleigh called her pathetic and told her to grow up etc. She answered back calmly and firmly, and showed herself to be strong and mature in the face of an open attack in front of everyone.
That kind of poise and maturity is why Ashleigh has so many admirers and the cowardly bully Helen hasn't.

[chuff me dizzy]

Agreed. At least Helen says things to people's faces. Ashleigh just doesn't have the guts.

Yes I admire and like that in a person ,what you see is what you get ,and if she doesn't like something she won't beat around the bush she will sort it out, not run to diary room to have a bitch

[Kazanne]

Oh dear,just walked in here,what a lovely time you are all having,think I'll leave you to it,no point in balancing it out,pffft.

[Jake.]

Im sorry Im no ones laccy ,please loo through Erins videos all evidence of Ashleighs cowardice and threats are in there

Basically you've got no clue at to what she's said or when

[chuff me dizzy]

I think everyone's view of a confrontation is different, my view of a confrontation is to go up and say "why did you say this about me.....i heard you say it" then quite possibly argue my point, Ashleigh has never done this, in the beginning she was saying how vile Helen was which was true! And that she was going to say it to her face, but it never happened, then when Helen did confront her Ashleighs reply was a bit a wet flannel! Your view of a confrontation maybe to have a little chat and someone else's view maybe that a confrontation is a Kat Slater moment.

We're all different .

Just so you know, i don't like confrontation so would go with the little chat:)

:clap1: Ashleigh all mouth and false promises

[chuff me dizzy]

Basically you've got no clue at to what she's said or when

As I told the last Ashleigh fan go look through Erins videos all proof in there

[fitz2k2]

im tired of chris saying I don't remember utter bs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just own up to what you said chris.****ing hell. Ashleigh backs down to Helen hahahahahah.Chris talk about hosuemates then when he gets confroted from hosuemates he pretends he doesn't remember. Im soo tired of the lies. I wish big brother can play what Ashleigh n chris said.

[rubymoo]

No, you are playing twisty twist again. Ashleigh said if Helen started in on her she wouldn't sit there and take it. The only time Helen did confront her was after seeing the vid with Kim and Jale, when she ran out all smug and delighted with her back - up and her cronies gathered around her as her audience. If you watched the vid of that you will know Ashleigh called her pathetic and told her to grow up etc. She answered back calmly and firmly, and showed herself to be strong and mature in the face of an open attack in front of everyone.
That kind of poise and maturity is why Ashleigh has so many admirers and the cowardly bully Helen hasn't.

Lol! Didn't realise i'd played twisty twist but hey ho:laugh:

Ashleigh at that moment from my perspective was honed in on by Helen, i've never said otherwise, my view is that i don't see this as a confrontation, it's more of just saying a few choice words, however she did have the back up of Winston which made her stronger and Ashleigh has never forgotten that he stuck up for her.

She answered back more scared than calmly and firmly and rightly so if Helen approached me like that i'd be scared!

Just realise she's an 18 year old girl not Joan of Arc!

[fitz2k2]

Now I don't know who should win for bb.Winstion is boring,asheligh is vile,Helen is worst,Chris stories changes, Ash is meh,Pav bahahaha,mark aka false,christmas gone psycho

[Crimson Dynamo]

week 9 and still they have not gotten used to the fact that people discuss other hms, out of earshot, 24/7

[rubymoo]

Oh dear,just walked in here,what a lovely time you are all having,think I'll leave you to it,no point in balancing it out,pffft.

Oh go on Kaz...it's great fun:hehe:

[Niamh.]

week 9 and still they have not gotten used to the fact that people discuss other hms, out of earshot, 24/7

Just been on FB and looks like Ashleigh is coming out of this alot better than Helen is :hehe:

[MrWong]

Yes ,Helen has tried to give Ashleigh the benefit of the doubt,despite knowing deep down she's a nasty snake in the grass, she learned her lesson last night

Ashleigh did the same despite knowing that Helen's an aggressive, lairy gob****e.

[Creggle]

Just been on FB and looks like Ashleigh is coming out of this alot better than Helen is :hehe:

:hehe::hehe::hehe:

[rubymoo]

Just been on FB and looks like Ashleigh is coming out of this alot better than Helen is :hehe:

She will do because she's not a confrontational person, she talks things through and with the back up of Chris who is also a talker just makes her stance stronger, Helen just comes across aggressive but i think she'd come across aggressive if she was to offer someone a cup of tea!

[jet]

Lol! Didn't realise i'd played twisty twist but hey ho:laugh:

Ashleigh at that moment from my perspective was honed in on by Helen, i've never said otherwise, my view is that i don't see this as a confrontation, it's more of just saying a few choice words, however she did have the back up of Winston which made her stronger and Ashleigh has never forgotten that he stuck up for her.

She answered back more scared than calmly and firmly and rightly so if Helen approached me like that i'd be scared!

Just realise she's an 18 year old girl not Joan of Arc!

:joker: You're a good sport. :wavey:

[Niamh.]

:hehe::hehe::hehe:

a sample :smug:

Donna Rose They wasn't being nasty just she twists everything horrible gobby bint
Like · Reply · 20 · 34 mins

John Walton Why do Chris and Ashleigh have some explaining to do. Helen is argumentative, a bad drunk, gobby ****stirrer, aggressive. But then with the fee she's been paid Helen has to earn her keep. Truth hurts Helen suck it up. But that ain't the first time your done that.
Like · Reply · 18 · 25 mins

Jo Wilkes Helen you're a disgrace, a gobby one at that!!
Like · Reply · 18 · 34 mins

Sharon Knowles HELEN HAHAHAHAH POT KETTLE BLACK SHE GOSSIPS ABT EVERYONE HOW SHE GOT THE neck to complain lmaooooooo
Like · Reply · 18 · 35 mins

Vina Bakici Good job Ashleigh has got a good memory as vile Helen went in all guns blazing and was shot down by Ashleigh who set her straight on what was actually said. Helen exaggerating to Ash and Mark about what was said she started to believe it herself. She's so stupid. Ash fancies Ashleigh so isn't getting involved, haha, bet Helen's loving that! Helen and Mark to go.
Like · Reply · 18 · 29 mins

Sue Joy It's a pity she didn't listen properly to what they were saying. She was a total disaster when they first went in the house and they would have hated her when she was at school.
Like · Reply · 16 · 33 mins

Bethany White get helen out!!
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[Niamh.]

She will do because she's not a confrontational person, she talks things through and with the back up of Chris who is also a talker just makes her stance stronger, Helen just comes across aggressive but i think she'd come across aggressive if she was to offer someone a cup of tea!

WHY DON'T YOU ****ING WANT THE ****ING CUP OF ****ING TEA??????? :hehe:

[chuff me dizzy]

a sample :smug:

Donna Rose They wasn't being nasty just she twists everything horrible gobby bint
Like · Reply · 20 · 34 mins

John Walton Why do Chris and Ashleigh have some explaining to do. Helen is argumentative, a bad drunk, gobby ****stirrer, aggressive. But then with the fee she's been paid Helen has to earn her keep. Truth hurts Helen suck it up. But that ain't the first time your done that.
Like · Reply · 18 · 25 mins

Jo Wilkes Helen you're a disgrace, a gobby one at that!!
Like · Reply · 18 · 34 mins

Sharon Knowles HELEN HAHAHAHAH POT KETTLE BLACK SHE GOSSIPS ABT EVERYONE HOW SHE GOT THE neck to complain lmaooooooo
Like · Reply · 18 · 35 mins

Vina Bakici Good job Ashleigh has got a good memory as vile Helen went in all guns blazing and was shot down by Ashleigh who set her straight on what was actually said. Helen exaggerating to Ash and Mark about what was said she started to believe it herself. She's so stupid. Ash fancies Ashleigh so isn't getting involved, haha, bet Helen's loving that! Helen and Mark to go.
Like · Reply · 18 · 29 mins

Sue Joy It's a pity she didn't listen properly to what they were saying. She was a total disaster when they first went in the house and they would have hated her when she was at school.
Like · Reply · 16 · 33 mins

Bethany White get helen out!!
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There are a lot supporting Helen too Niamh

[Niamh.]

There are a lot supporting Helen too Niamh

Ok :hehe:

[Vanessa]

She will do because she's not a confrontational person, she talks things through and with the back up of Chris who is also a talker just makes her stance stronger, Helen just comes across aggressive but i think she'd come across aggressive if she was to offer someone a cup of tea!

That is so true! :joker:

[rubymoo]

WHY DON'T YOU ****ING WANT THE ****ING CUP OF ****ING TEA??????? :hehe:

:joker:

Brilliant!

[Kazanne]

Oh go on Kaz...it's great fun:hehe:

I haven't had time to see it yet,but it was predictable it would be unbalanced,lol,not got time for it Ruby although I love chatting to you:hehe:

[Creggle]

a sample :smug:

Donna Rose They wasn't being nasty just she twists everything horrible gobby bint
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John Walton Why do Chris and Ashleigh have some explaining to do. Helen is argumentative, a bad drunk, gobby ****stirrer, aggressive. But then with the fee she's been paid Helen has to earn her keep. Truth hurts Helen suck it up. But that ain't the first time your done that.
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Jo Wilkes Helen you're a disgrace, a gobby one at that!!
Like · Reply · 18 · 34 mins

Sharon Knowles HELEN HAHAHAHAH POT KETTLE BLACK SHE GOSSIPS ABT EVERYONE HOW SHE GOT THE neck to complain lmaooooooo
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Vina Bakici Good job Ashleigh has got a good memory as vile Helen went in all guns blazing and was shot down by Ashleigh who set her straight on what was actually said. Helen exaggerating to Ash and Mark about what was said she started to believe it herself. She's so stupid. Ash fancies Ashleigh so isn't getting involved, haha, bet Helen's loving that! Helen and Mark to go.
Like · Reply · 18 · 29 mins

Sue Joy It's a pity she didn't listen properly to what they were saying. She was a total disaster when they first went in the house and they would have hated her when she was at school.
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Bethany White get helen out!!
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Haha! Although the prostitute comments are a little out of order, the past is the past.

[MartianMark]

Whoa! I wake up and so much has changed. Last I checked, they all had their lips firmly planted on Helen's ass when they were in the garden. Looks like I got a bit of catching up to do.

[mrflibble]

Just been on FB and looks like Ashleigh is coming out of this alot better than Helen is :hehe:
Of course she would. Her and Chris were talking about how much they liked Helen and how much she's changed. Helen ignores every positive part of the conversation, blabs to all her friends and then says she doesn't even like Ashleigh and 'likes being nasty'(?). She then planned to jump on them when they couldn't back away. If she was so honest and upfront like she claims, she would've confronted them straight away (and I don't mean normal Helen confronting which is just yelling in people's faces, insulting them and not listening to a word they say), but she purposely went around telling all her allies to turn them against them and for back up if she needed it. She comes out looking like an idiot and a hypocrite.

She did have a right to be upset about what she THOUGHT she heard, but the way she reacted was terrible. She did sort of corner them, but at least did it calmly, however Ashleigh remembered everything she said and tried to correct her, I'm not surprised Chris can't remember anything, and Helen kept trying to push to get a reaction, but because they knew they hadn't said anything bad they weren't ever going to get worked up over it.

[Niamh.]

Of course she would. Her and Chris were talking about how much they liked Helen and how much she's changed. Helen ignores every positive part of the conversation, blabs to all her friends and then says she doesn't even like Ashleigh and 'likes being nasty'(?). She then planned to jump on them when they couldn't back away. If she was so honest and upfront like she claims, she would've confronted them straight away (and I don't mean normal Helen confronting which is just yelling in people's faces, insulting them and not listening to a word they say), but she purposely went around telling all her allies to turn them against them and for back up if she needed it. She comes out looking like an idiot and a hypocrite.

She did have a right to be upset about what she THOUGHT she heard, but the way she reacted was terrible. She did sort of corner them, but at least did it calmly, however Ashleigh remembered everything she said and tried to correct her, I'm not surprised Chris can't remember anything, and Helen kept trying to push to get a reaction, but because they knew they hadn't said anything bad they weren't ever going to get worked up over it.

She's really not changed a single bit has she? Still the same vile, foul mouthed arsehole she's been since day 1

[Kazanne]

Of course she would. Her and Chris were talking about how much they liked Helen and how much she's changed. Helen ignores every positive part of the conversation, blabs to all her friends and then says she doesn't even like Ashleigh and 'likes being nasty'(?). She then planned to jump on them when they couldn't back away. If she was so honest and upfront like she claims, she would've confronted them straight away (and I don't mean normal Helen confronting which is just yelling in people's faces, insulting them and not listening to a word they say), but she purposely went around telling all her allies to turn them against them and for back up if she needed it. She comes out looking like an idiot and a hypocrite.

She did have a right to be upset about what she THOUGHT she heard, but the way she reacted was terrible. She did sort of corner them, but at least did it calmly, however Ashleigh remembered everything she said and tried to correct her, I'm not surprised Chris can't remember anything, and Helen kept trying to push to get a reaction, but because they knew they hadn't said anything bad they weren't ever going to get worked up over it.

Helen is probably used to people hating on her,and maybe that is why she presumes nothing will change,I haven't seen it yet,so cannot comment too much,but something must have been said that wasn't complimentary from the sounds of it,I feel sorry for her now,why do they have to even keep talking about her,find something else to do fgs.

[rubymoo]

She's really not changed a single bit has she? Still the same vile, foul mouthed arsehole she's been since day 1

But she has made good viewing and she's done so much more than the other HM's:smug:

[Kazanne]

She's really not changed a single bit has she? Still the same vile, foul mouthed arsehole she's been since day 1

Not nice calling people names like that Niamh:smug: she's not vile vile,potty mouthed yes but so is Ashleigh,and as for arsehole,there's plenty of them to chose from.

[bots]

hmmm. maybe i'm not normal either, but if someone were to say 5 nice things about me, and then 1 nasty one, I would remember the nasty one and I would be muttering about it too. Is Helen really supposed to say to everyone that Ashleigh said a lot of nice things, "oh she's a lovely girl" - I don't think so

[Kazanne]

hmmm. maybe i'm not normal either, but if someone were to say 5 nice things about me, and then 1 nasty one, I would remember the nasty one and I would be muttering about it too. Is Helen really supposed to say to everyone that Ashleigh said a lot of nice things, "oh she's a lovely girl" - I don't think so

I really don't know why Ashleigh has to talk about her all the time anyway,if you don't like her **** and find someone else to bitch about.

[chuff me dizzy]

But she has made good viewing and she's done so much more than the other HM's:smug:

Can you even bear to imagine this series without Helen ? a house full of Ashleighs asleep or cuddling the teddy her mother should have binned 12 years ago

[Niamh.]

I really don't know why Ashleigh has to talk about her all the time anyway,if you don't like her **** and find someone else to bitch about.

I'm sure she doesn't spend all day talking about her Kazanne, you know very well that the editors are going to show mostly that though cos it adds to their storyline

[rubymoo]

Can you even bear to imagine this series without Helen ? a house full of Ashleighs asleep or cuddling the teddy her mother should have binned 12 years ago

Helen has without doubt made the show, and to be honest (and i know this is going to cause a feeding frenzy!) she does actually deserve to win (got me tin hat ready:laugh:)

[erinp5]

MY2vbbm5bOE

[MrWong]

Can you even bear to imagine this series without Helen ? a house full of Ashleighs asleep or cuddling the teddy her mother should have binned 12 years ago

Blimey, if that's all she's about you sure do have a lot to say about her. :hehe:

[Kazanne]

Helen has without doubt made the show, and to be honest (and i know this is going to cause a feeding frenzy!) she does actually deserve to win (got me tin hat ready:laugh:)

Yes apart from Helen the only one that gets people in a frenzy is Mark,without those two it would be a bore fest

[Kazanne]

Blimey, if that's all she's about you sure do have a lot to say about her. :hehe:

Why does that bother you so much?

[chuff me dizzy]

Helen has without doubt made the show, and to be honest (and i know this is going to cause a feeding frenzy!) she does actually deserve to win (got me tin hat ready:laugh:)

Don't you dare put that tin hat on ruby, your opinion is as valid as anyone else's and I agree ,I love Chris, been my fav all way though , but if I had to chose who deserves to win more than anyone in there it would be Helen

[chuff me dizzy]

Blimey, if that's all she's about you sure do have a lot to say about her. :hehe:

Please read my other posts Ive said quite a lot about the little bitch and will carry on doing so

[erinp5]

Helen Wood is left absolutely raging on tonight’s Big Brother 2014.



In the evening, Helen secretly overhears Chris R Wright and Ashleigh Coyle’s conversation about her from the bathroom and hears Chris describe her as “a little girl lost which is appealing to me” before adding “she’s pretty much everything I hate” and that she’s “our nightmare at school…no question she would have been an absolute to*spot”

Helen returns to Ash in the bathroom and remarks “Wow…I just listened to me getting sl*gged off to ******!”

Helen is still reeling a few moments later as she says to Ash “I can’t believe I’ve just heard people speak about me like that, I actually just want to go in and smash her ******ing head in. ******ing Cheeky ******ing b***h. I can’t believe the two faced little ******s!”



Later on, Helen is in the garden with Winston relaying what she heard. Helen says “I’m going to get my own back, but I’m not going to tell them…I feel like p***ing all over the pillows, I feel like tearing the s**t, but I won’t even lower myself. I’m going to do something though…”

Winston, laughing at Helen’s rant, says “I’ll be honest with you, you’re not going to win, there’s no point changing yourself…you’re the biggest character out of the whole show”


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[Kazanne]

Don't you dare put that tin hat on ruby, your opinion is as valid as anyone else's and I agree ,I love Chris, been my fav all way though , but if I had to chose who deserves to win more than anyone in there it would be Helen

Totally agree,she has had so much negativity thrown at her,I think she's coped really well, Helen would be a well worthy winner but we all know that doesn't always happen,I guess were're due another Sophie Reade.

[MrWong]

Why does that bother you so much?

It doesn't bother me at all. Just that the statement doesn't make sense considering the huge amount of posts that chuffs made about Ashleigh.

Is that ok with you like?

[MrWong]

Please read my other posts Ive said quite a lot about the little bitch and will carry on doing so

:umm2:

[Kazanne]

It doesn't bother me at all. Just that the statement doesn't make sense considering the huge amount of posts that chuffs made about Ashleigh.

Is that ok with you like?

Hmm, Chuff doesn't like her,she's made that quite plain,she has said she is boring ,which is probably ONE reason she doesn't, and don't be sarcey ,it doesn't suit you:smug:

[Kazanne]

:umm2:

:joker::joker: @ that smilie

[Niamh.]

That guy is the best smiley :umm2: him and this fella :fist:

[Kazanne]

That guy is the best smiley :umm2: him and this fella :fist:

It did make me laugh when I saw it:joker:

[bbfan1991]

''I think I might have jumped to conclusions, even though I didn't think I did''. Gosh.. Helen is so stupid!

[chuff me dizzy]

Totally agree,she has had so much negativity thrown at her,I think she's coped really well, Helen would be a well worthy winner but we all know that doesn't always happen,I guess were're due another Sophie Reade.

Cameron,Brian Belo !!

[Niamh.]

The winners are almost always crap and the most inoffensive of the bunch

[MrWong]

Hmm, Chuff doesn't like her,she's made that quite plain,she has said she is boring ,which is probably ONE reason she doesn't, and don't be sarcey ,it doesn't suit you:smug:

Oh come on. I could have said worse :D

[chuff me dizzy]

:umm2:

Why the silly smilie ? do you think only your opinion counts ?

[chuff me dizzy]

The winners are almost always crap and the most inoffensive of the bunch

If that were the case Chris has been the least offensive ,if its down to being crap then give Ashleigh the cheque

[MrWong]

Why the silly smilie ? do you think only your opinion counts ?

:conf:

Re-read the posts. **** knows what your're on about now.

[Niamh.]

If that were the case Chris has been the least offensive ,if its down to being crap then give Ashleigh the cheque

I disagree, Winston has been both the most inoffensive and the most crap because he's not shown any of himself really. I like Chris, he's my favourite along with Ashleigh but he's obviously offended some people or else public opinion on him wouldn't have swayed so much :shrug:

[chuff me dizzy]

I disagree, Winston has been both the most inoffensive and the most crap because he's not shown any of himself really. I like Chris, he's my favourite along with Ashleigh but he's obviously offended some people or else public opinion on him wouldn't have swayed so much :shrug:

Ive said it before and I will say it again ,Chris lost this by getting close to Ashleigh, he had it in the bag upto then ,winston is just dire

[mrflibble]

hmmm. maybe i'm not normal either, but if someone were to say 5 nice things about me, and then 1 nasty one, I would remember the nasty one and I would be muttering about it too. Is Helen really supposed to say to everyone that Ashleigh said a lot of nice things, "oh she's a lovely girl" - I don't think so
But they weren't saying nasty things, they were talking about how she'd changed and how their opinion of her changed. If Helen really had been on a journey and changing her behaviour, it would've been the ultimate compliment - especially from people who she initially treated badly and who should've written her off altogether.

[joeysteele]

Helen does seem to be on the defensive most of the time, it is almost as if she only expects to hear and get derogatory comments and treatment.

This may well be one of the best things she can take away from this series,if she watches it back and realises not everything and everyone was 'always' against her or putting her down as she thought or even expected they would.

She is right to not trust Ashleigh's word, I wouldn't either but she has gained admirers both inside and out of the house.
I would like to think and hope,she reflects on that when she looks back on her time as a housemate and that she was a housemate that has been for many reasons, good and bad one of the most talked about and also for me the most entertaining all through,not just for part of the series.

[Niamh.]

Ive said it before and I will say it again ,Chris lost this by getting close to Ashleigh, he had it in the bag upto then ,winston is just dire

Chris lost it all by himself, he lost it by his confrontation with Pav, that was his own doing, he's a big boy and is responsible for his own actions.

[chuff me dizzy]

Chris lost it all by himself, he lost it by his confrontation with Pav, that was his own doing, he's a big boy and is responsible for his own actions.

Naaahh the creepy Chris tag ended it for him,EVERYONE of them didn't like Pav,but only Chris had the decency to talk to him about it , the bitching thats taken place with the master of bitch ,just as it did for Toya,Dani ,also lost his chance of winning ......I tell you Niamh that bint is poison :rant:

[bots]

Chris lost it all by himself, he lost it by his confrontation with Pav, that was his own doing, he's a big boy and is responsible for his own actions.

Yes, but it was because of Ashleigh that he did that - and who knows, we haven't seen enough to know, may be she manipulated him in to that - something we know she is very good at - putting suggestions in peoples heads, and making them think that they are their own ideas.

Chris struggled to stay in last week, it was apparently very close - with the exception of Mark, he is among the most vulnerable on Friday - Ashleigh to thank for that

[erinp5]

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_listing_thumbnail/public/helentoash_0.jpg?itok=aUIHzSbo


They all had been drinking ,Chris can't remember much as he was smashed LOL and Helen came in at the end of a convo .No big deal imo .I did think it would kick off ,but it's done and dusted .

[jet]

Helen Wood is left absolutely raging on tonight’s Big Brother 2014.



In the evening, Helen secretly overhears Chris R Wright and Ashleigh Coyle’s conversation about her from the bathroom and hears Chris describe her as “a little girl lost which is appealing to me” before adding “she’s pretty much everything I hate” and that she’s “our nightmare at school…no question she would have been an absolute to*spot”

Helen returns to Ash in the bathroom and remarks “Wow…I just listened to me getting sl*gged off to ******!”

Helen is still reeling a few moments later as she says to Ash “I can’t believe I’ve just heard people speak about me like that, I actually just want to go in and smash her ******ing head in. ******ing Cheeky ******ing b***h. I can’t believe the two faced little ******s!”



Later on, Helen is in the garden with Winston relaying what she heard. Helen says “I’m going to get my own back, but I’m not going to tell them…I feel like p***ing all over the pillows, I feel like tearing the s**t, but I won’t even lower myself. I’m going to do something though…”

Winston, laughing at Helen’s rant, says “I’ll be honest with you, you’re not going to win, there’s no point changing yourself…you’re the biggest character out of the whole show”


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Uh oh. Helen is using threatening language again. Is another warning on the cards? Probably not, she gets away with murder.

[Niamh.]

Naaahh the creepy Chris tag ended it for him,EVERYONE of them didn't like Pav,but only Chris had the decency to talk to him about it , the bitching thats taken place with the master of bitch ,just as it did for Toya,Dani ,also lost his chance of winning ......I tell you Niamh that bint is poison :rant:

ah she isn't, she's a very interesting character imo Everyone has to take responsibility for themselves Chuff you can't just blame her for what someone else does or says

[Niamh.]

Yes, but it was because of Ashleigh that he did that - and who knows, we haven't seen enough to know, may be she manipulated him in to that - something we know she is very good at - putting suggestions in peoples heads, and making them think that they are their own ideas.

Chris struggled to stay in last week, it was apparently very close - with the exception of Mark, he is among the most vulnerable on Friday - Ashleigh to thank for that

Ahhh come on Ashleigh said she hadn't even noticed him staring at her and wasn't it danielle who was the one who started all that anyway so if you must blame someone for Chris actions then surely it should be her?

[Dollface]

Yes, but it was because of Ashleigh that he did that - and who knows, we haven't seen enough to know, may be she manipulated him in to that - something we know she is very good at - putting suggestions in peoples heads, and making them think that they are their own ideas.

Chris struggled to stay in last week, it was apparently very close - with the exception of Mark, he is among the most vulnerable on Friday - Ashleigh to thank for that

How can you blame Ashleigh for what Chris said to Pav? Chris has his own mind, he confronted Pav by his own doing, it was nothing to do with Ashleigh.

I don't care if non-Ashleigh-fans call her bitchy or whatever, because that is their opinion. But when it comes to calling her spotty/ugly etc. and/or blaming her for other housemates behaviour, it gets amusingly ridiculous..

[MrWong]

Yes, but it was because of Ashleigh that he did that - and who knows, we haven't seen enough to know, may be she manipulated him in to that - something we know she is very good at - putting suggestions in peoples heads, and making them think that they are their own ideas.

Chris struggled to stay in last week, it was apparently very close - with the exception of Mark, he is among the most vulnerable on Friday - Ashleigh to thank for that

Ashleigh had no clue about the supposed Pav stares and said as much.

It was one of the evicted hm's that put that thought into Chris' head.

[Niamh.]

How can you blame Ashleigh for what Chris said to Pav? Chris has his own mind, he confronted Pav by his own doing, it was nothing to do with Ashleigh.

I don't care if non-Ashleigh-fans call her bitchy or whatever, because that is their opinion. But when it comes to calling her spotty/ugly etc. and/or blaming her for other housemates behaviour, it gets amusingly ridiculous..

Too right

[bots]

Ashleigh had no clue about the supposed Pav stares and said as much.

It was one of the evicted hm's that put that thought into Chris' head.

Well she said that for sure, but we know that's not true, because her best friend Daniele told her, so she did know.

I'm not an Ashleigh hater, but i'm not blind either :laugh:

[reece(:]

How can you blame Ashleigh for what Chris said to Pav? Chris has his own mind, he confronted Pav by his own doing, it was nothing to do with Ashleigh.

I don't care if non-Ashleigh-fans call her bitchy or whatever, because that is their opinion. But when it comes to calling her spotty/ugly etc. and/or blaming her for other housemates behaviour, it gets amusingly ridiculous..
Get em told hun :clap1:

[MrWong]

Well she said that for sure, but we know that's not true, because her best friend Daniele told her, so she did know.

I'm not an Ashleigh hater, but i'm not blind either :laugh:

That hasn't been on the highlights/clips that I have seen.

Anyone else remember Danielle telling Ashleigh?

[bots]

That hasn't been on the highlights/clips that I have seen.

Anyone else remember Danielle telling Ashleigh?

Danielle was the main reason the whole thing about Pav staring started in the first place, and Ashleigh was there with Chris and Mark.

Ok, lets put it another way. Did Ashleigh at any time go in to the diary room, or make it crystal clear to the rest of the hm's that Pav was not staring at her .... Something along the lines of ...no idea what Danielle was talking about with Pav ... she didn't, she allowed the notion to continue.

[bbfan1991]

The winners are almost always crap and the most inoffensive of the bunch

Nadia wasn't. I missed Brian's series (BB2), but from the clips i've seen he was very fun.

I couldn't stand Aaron, but will admit he contributed enough to his series to win.

I liked Josie and thought she deserved to win, obviously other people disagree but the bitterness about her winning still remains LOL. I've gotten over people who weren't favourites of mine winning!

[Niamh.]

Danielle was the main reason the whole thing about Pav staring started in the first place, and Ashleigh was there with Chris and Mark.

Ok, lets put it another way. Did Ashleigh at any time go in to the diary room, or make it crystal clear to the rest of the hm's that Pav was not staring at her .... Something along the lines of ...no idea what Danielle was talking about with Pav ... she didn't, she allowed the notion to continue.

She said she hadn't noticed him staring, she's not to know if he is or not is she? especially when she's got her ex-best-housemate-friend who's watching it on TV telling her he has

[jet]

That hasn't been on the highlights/clips that I have seen.

Anyone else remember Danielle telling Ashleigh?

:think: I don't.

[Niamh.]

Nadia wasn't. I missed Brian's series (BB2), but from the clips i've seen he was very fun.

I couldn't stand Aaron, but will admit he contributed enough to his series to win.

I liked Josie and thought she deserved to win, obviously other people disagree but the bitterness about her winning still remains LOL. I've gotten over people who weren't favourites of mine winning!

Brian :love: Best winner/HM ever

ah yeah of course there have been a few more exciting winners but mostly it's bland and nice

[Niamh.]

:think: I don't.

I was away for that show but I was told she had told them that

[rubymoo]

Yes apart from Helen the only one that gets people in a frenzy is Mark,without those two it would be a bore fest

I completely agree, i think Mark is my guilty pleasure:hehe:

[jet]

I was away for that show but I was told she had told them that

Thanks. I didn't see that one either.

[rubymoo]

Don't you dare put that tin hat on ruby, your opinion is as valid as anyone else's and I agree ,I love Chris, been my fav all way though , but if I had to chose who deserves to win more than anyone in there it would be Helen

:hug:

[Niamh.]

Thanks. I didn't see that one either.

Even still though it doesn't change that she said, I hadn't noticed him doing that, which is not a very "Oh Chris you better stand up for my honour" type reaction like some people are trying to make out

[MrWong]

Danielle was the main reason the whole thing about Pav staring started in the first place, and Ashleigh was there with Chris and Mark.

Ok, lets put it another way. Did Ashleigh at any time go in to the diary room, or make it crystal clear to the rest of the hm's that Pav was not staring at her .... Something along the lines of ...no idea what Danielle was talking about with Pav ... she didn't, she allowed the notion to continue.

Hmm, maybe I was making a brew. Unless anyone else can point out when this happened.

If she knew and was even involved in conversations about it with Chris then why didn't Chris question Ashleigh when she said she hadn't even noticed (shown on highlights) ?

[MrWong]

Even still though it doesn't change that she said, I hadn't noticed him doing that, which is not a very "Oh Chris you better stand up for my honour" type reaction like some people are trying to make out

Good point. Her reply doesn't show anything close to manipulative.

[erinp5]

:think: I don't.

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[jet]

Even still though it doesn't change that she said, I hadn't noticed him doing that, which is not a very "Oh Chris you better stand up for my honour" type reaction like some people are trying to make out

:thumbs: But Ashleigh's 'always in the wrong' always in the wrong' 'always in the wrong'.
According to some she does wrong from the moment she wakes up until she goes to bed at night and even while she's asleep. :hehe:

[rusticgal]

Chris lost it all by himself, he lost it by his confrontation with Pav, that was his own doing, he's a big boy and is responsible for his own actions.


Chris also lost it when he started making silly comments to Helen that her acceptance of him meant everyone....
He is so true and honest in the DR...then loses the courage of his convictions when confronted.

[Achilles]

How can you blame Ashleigh for what Chris said to Pav? Chris has his own mind, he confronted Pav by his own doing, it was nothing to do with Ashleigh.

I don't care if non-Ashleigh-fans call her bitchy or whatever, because that is their opinion. But when it comes to calling her spotty/ugly etc. and/or blaming her for other housemates behaviour, it gets amusingly ridiculous..

When I see a hateful comment about Ashleigh on FB, I always amuse myself my looking at their picture. I imagine them calling Ashleigh ugly and spotty and fat etc Then I listen to the Twilight Zone theme tune

[LukeB]

she mis understood

[chuff me dizzy]

Yes, but it was because of Ashleigh that he did that - and who knows, we haven't seen enough to know, may be she manipulated him in to that - something we know she is very good at - putting suggestions in peoples heads, and making them think that they are their own ideas.

Chris struggled to stay in last week, it was apparently very close - with the exception of Mark, he is among the most vulnerable on Friday - Ashleigh to thank for that

:worship: All true ,she loads the gun for others to fire the bullets

[chuff me dizzy]

Danielle was the main reason the whole thing about Pav staring started in the first place, and Ashleigh was there with Chris and Mark.

Ok, lets put it another way. Did Ashleigh at any time go in to the diary room, or make it crystal clear to the rest of the hm's that Pav was not staring at her .... Something along the lines of ...no idea what Danielle was talking about with Pav ... she didn't, she allowed the notion to continue.

Yes Ashleigh was in diary room and heard herself Dani say it ,she then told others

[jet]

:worship: All true ,she loads the gun for others to fire the bullets

Thanks for thinking Ashleigh has so much power that she can manipulate mature, grown men into doing her bidding. Wow, she's even better than I thought. :cheer2:

[Dollface]

Thanks for thinking Ashleigh has so much power that she can manipulate mature, grown men into doing her bidding. Wow, she's even better than I thought. :cheer2:

:hehe: we obviously don't give Ashleigh enough credit

[chuff me dizzy]

Thanks for thinking Ashleigh has so much power that she can manipulate mature, grown men into doing her bidding. Wow, she's even better than I thought. :cheer2:

Naaah she's just a sly sneaky bitch :nono:

[bots]

Thanks for thinking Ashleigh has so much power that she can manipulate mature, grown men into doing her bidding. Wow, she's even better than I thought. :cheer2:

haa haa, yes, one thing we have seen is that Ashleigh is very persuasive - not criticising her for that at all, but her evil plans are something else :joker:

[jet]

Naaah she's just a sly sneaky bitch :nono:

Chris must be a right numpty if he's so easily manipulated. You do him a disservice. There is no evidence whatsoever that Ashleigh was sly, he's an intelligent man who did what he did himself. :nono:

[erinp5]

5.40pm: Helen says she doesn't like the way Ashleigh speaks to Chris

[Dollface]

5.40pm: Helen says she doesn't like the way Ashleigh speaks to Chris

Oh dear :facepalm: Helen is being rather hypocritical lately. She speaks to almost everyone like utter crap. Last night she even told Pav to "shut up".

[chuff me dizzy]

5.40pm: Helen says she doesn't like the way Ashleigh speaks to Chris

Glad she's seen it too

[jet]

Oh dear :facepalm: Helen is being rather hypocritical lately. She speaks to almost everyone like utter crap. Last night she even told Pav to "shut up".

Her hypocrisy is stunning.

[Jake.]

Totally agree,she has had so much negativity thrown at her,I think she's coped really well, Helen would be a well worthy winner but we all know that doesn't always happen,I guess were're due another Sophie Reade.

I can't get to grips with this when you wanted Sam to win last year.. At least Sophie actually spoke

[Jake.]

5.40pm: Helen says she doesn't like the way Ashleigh speaks to Chris

Let's see if people call out the hypocrisy... Oh no wait, they won't, because Helen's been on a 'journey'

[Jase.]

5.40pm: Helen says she doesn't like the way Ashleigh speaks to Chris

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[emptynest]

Helen is stupid, yes they were talking about her behind her back but they actually said some nice/fair things in with what their issues were.

Yes I agree, helen got the wrong end of the stick, they were saying nice things

[Babschap]

No doubt Helen will still be viewed as the badguy in this too :laugh:

Yep because she ltwisted what they said.

[Absorption]

No-one wants Helen to be hated more than Helen herself.

[Kazanne]

No-one wants Helen to be hated more than Helen herself.

No ,only idiots 'hate' someone they don't even know

[MojoNixon]

No doubt Helen will still be viewed as the badguy in this too :laugh:


And what it wrong with that?

[Achilles]

No ,only idiots 'hate' someone they don't even know

So does that apply to all the Ashleigh haters too? :shrug:

[Absorption]

No ,only idiots 'hate' someone they don't even know

My point was that Helen is intent on seeing people's view of her in the worst possible light.

As for people hating someone they don't know, yes, you're right. However, that's nothing to do with what I posted.

[MojoNixon]

So does that apply to all the Ashleigh haters too? :shrug:

Yes indeed. It seems that is ok to hate Ashleigh, Chris, ...but oooh noo, if you hate Pav...Ash.....you must be a real hater. According to certain persons on this forum.

[user104658]

They were, in a strange sort of way, being nice about her. They were saying that, even though she is (let's face it) abrasive as ****, and they have had some serious run-ins with her, and have hated her for a huge chunk of the show... despite all of that... they still can't help but like her. They DO want to be her friend, even though she's the sort of person that they never imagined they could be friends with.

But... Helen's a bit of a wounded dog really. I don't think she was deliberately twisting it to be all negative... I think her life (and her mind) is so full of negativity that she can only HEAR the negative. She's EXPECTING negativity, and latches onto it. And the reason she's so angry about it is because her feelings have been hurt; because despite herself, she does actually want people to like her.

It's a bit of a shame, really. She could have focused on the positives... or even asked them there and then to explain what they meant. Not angrily; just honestly... she could have told them that she overheard and that it didn't feel good because they had been getting on, and I personally think they would have elaborated and explained that they DO like her, and it would have been more or less fine. Helen can't do that because she's afraid of showing weakness... which, ironically, is her major weakness.

[Kazanne]

So does that apply to all the Ashleigh haters too? :shrug:

I don't know as I am not silly enough to 'Hate' any of the housemates

[Kazanne]

My point was that Helen is intent on seeing people's view of her in the worst possible light.

As for people hating someone they don't know, yes, you're right. However, that's nothing to do with what I posted.

I think Helen has probably always had a lot of negativity around her ,and , just expects bad stuff.

[joeysteele]

They were, in a strange sort of way, being nice about her. They were saying that, even though she is (let's face it) abrasive as ****, and they have had some serious run-ins with her, and have hated her for a huge chunk of the show... despite all of that... they still can't help but like her. They DO want to be her friend, even though she's the sort of person that they never imagined they could be friends with.

But... Helen's a bit of a wounded dog really. I don't think she was deliberately twisting it to be all negative... I think her life (and her mind) is so full of negativity that she can only HEAR the negative. She's EXPECTING negativity, and latches onto it. And the reason she's so angry about it is because her feelings have been hurt; because despite herself, she does actually want people to like her.

It's a bit of a shame, really. She could have focused on the positives... or even asked them there and then to explain what they meant. Not angrily; just honestly... she could have told them that she overheard and that it didn't feel good because they had been getting on, and I personally think they would have elaborated and explained that they DO like her, and it would have been more or less fine. Helen can't do that because she's afraid of showing weakness... which, ironically, is her major weakness.

I have come to like her Toy Soldier,I see her exactly as you outline in your 2nd paragraph.
I really have to say what a great and revealing post from you as so many of yours are.

A very thought provoking post indeed.

[Fish_Fingers]

Yep because she ltwisted what they said.

I don't think she twisted it intentionally though. I actually think she IS that stupid to have heard what they said but not be able to understand it. She heard what they said clearly, but due to her limited intelligence she was unable to grasp the (let's be honest) pretty f#$*ing obvious meaning of what they were saying.

When one accepts that Helen basically lacks any real critical thinking skills, the rest of her appalling behaviour becomes almost understandable. She needs to be out of the house, as there are far more important issues for her to deal with in her train-wreck of a life.