Really can't stand the woman!

[Miche30584]

I've been coming on the forum since this series of bb has started . I've enjoyed looking through people opinions on the hm.

I've come to the point where I need to vent !!!!!!! So I've decided to join and do just that.
What's got me to this point? Tonight's show , where Helen just blatantly lies and fabricates everything , in regards to the conversation where she " walked " in at that moment" BS !!!! You didn't walk in at that moment love , you purposely/sneakily walked into the toilet to listen to a conversation that you wasn't invited too?
What about how she talks in regards to Ashleigh ? Smashing her head in because of what she "heard" absolutely disgraceful !!!
This woman (Helen) has a son , what a great role model ! To go around threatening to smash a young girls head in and also call her a C....I can't stand her double standards either . The woman is vile.

I can't stand Helen !!!!!!!! How I would wish to be in that house and put her in her place.

Rant over :blush::blush:

[Denver]

Im sure ashliegh was lieing to her face as she did mention her having a million chances

[Miche30584]

I don't think she denied that tho , she was actually trying to explain but Helen kept cutting in with what she supposedly heard! Either way , I much prefer Ashleigh's character and comportment !

[Denver]

I don't think she denied that tho , she was actually trying to explain but Helen kept cutting in with what she supposedly heard! Either way , I much prefer Ashleigh's character and comportment !

She said those words never came out my mouth

[Miche30584]

Well I did say I don't think she said that and even if she did , let's be real , it's not that bad a comment and it's probably true .

[Marsh.]

She went into the toilet and then heard them talking about her. Everything she relayed to them we heard them say yesterday.

[Denver]

Well I did say I don't think she said that and even if she did , let's be real , it's not that bad a comment and it's probably true .

They slagged her off then didnt have the balls to admit it when they got busted

[Miche30584]

Yeah but that's what you do ?? Isn't it ? Talk about the people in the house ? For them it's their world/bubble ATM , obviously they are going to talk about each other it's really the only thing to do. . I don't think they were slagging her per say , compared to, let's say , 4 weeks ago. I think Ashleigh had more harsh words to say about Helen .

[Marsh.]

Yeah but that's what you do ?? Isn't it ? Talk about the people in the house ? For them it's their world/bubble ATM , obviously they are going to talk about each other it's really the only thing to do. . I don't think they were slagging her per say , compared to, let's say , 4 weeks ago. I think Ashleigh had more harsh words to say about Helen .

You said in the OP that she'd "fabricated" though. She hadn't.

[LukeB]

can anyone?

[Denver]

Yeah but that's what you do ?? Isn't it ? Talk about the people in the house ? For them it's their world/bubble ATM , obviously they are going to talk about each other it's really the only thing to do. . I don't think they were slagging her per say , compared to, let's say , 4 weeks ago. I think Ashleigh had more harsh words to say about Helen .

So its normal to slag someone off but when they challenge you on it say you didnt say it then call them a lier?

[Miche30584]

She did fabricate it ?? She said what she thought she heard in a manor to suit her argument ? She didn't hear the whole conversation first, she heard only bad things and rolled with it ! Then went in to the bathroom and told ash what she heard but not in the way it was exactly said .

[Miche30584]

Not at all .both sides need to be honest . Helens making out she was accidentally walking past when she wasn't ??? I just don't like her approach to things and the way she goes about it .

[Denver]

Not at all .both sides need to be honest . Helens making out she was accidentally walking past when she wasn't ??? I just don't like her approach to things and the way she goes about it .

She has every right to eavesdrop when its about her

[Miche30584]

I disagree! Eavesdroppers never hear anything good about them selfs and it's your own fault to be so sneaky and listen to people's privet conversation

[RodHull]

Well I did say I don't think she said that and even if she did , let's be real , it's not that bad a comment and it's probably true .

The whole thing was a lot worse than that. I dont think it was even what was said that annoyed Helen but the fact that for weeks now to her face they both climb up her arse then behind closed doors are clearly slagging her off.

Yes arguably there were some back handed compliments in there but they were very backhanded. And she didnt sneak deliberately she came in that way innocently and overheard Chris saying 'Oh yes Helens and absolute ****ing nightmare'

I would have listened as well. Ashleigh and Chris have not been honest about their feelings toward her and the others from day 1 so dont try to pull they poor innocents argument they are as dirty and corrupt as the rest of them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Helen is a self hating paranoid mess

[Miche30584]

The whole thing was a lot worse than that. I dont think it was even what was said that annoyed Helen but the fact that for weeks now to her face they both climb up her arse then behind closed doors are clearly slagging her off.

Yes arguably there were some back handed compliments in there but they were very backhanded. And she didnt sneak deliberately she came in that way innocently and overheard Chris saying 'Oh yes Helens and absolute ****ing nightmare'

I would have listened as well. Ashleigh and Chris have not been honest about their feelings toward her and the others from day 1 so dont try to pull they poor innocents argument they are as dirty and corrupt as the rest of them.

Who's making a poor innocent argument ?? I haven't made any indication that they are poor innocent people.

And yes , she did purposely go to listen. If you look back , you will clearly see that she was in mid convo with ash stood still. She started walking to the toilet to hear the conversation , when she did ash said something like "what you doing" and Helen says shhh.

[Miche30584]

My bad , she was actually sat on the floor ! Her head perks up and starts walking towards what she wants to sneakily hear.

[Forgetmenot]

I've been coming on the forum since this series of bb has started . I've enjoyed looking through people opinions on the hm.

I've come to the point where I need to vent !!!!!!! So I've decided to join and do just that.
What's got me to this point? Tonight's show , where Helen just blatantly lies and fabricates everything , in regards to the conversation where she " walked " in at that moment" BS !!!! You didn't walk in at that moment love , you purposely/sneakily walked into the toilet to listen to a conversation that you wasn't invited too?
What about how she talks in regards to Ashleigh ? Smashing her head in because of what she "heard" absolutely disgraceful !!!
This woman (Helen) has a son , what a great role model ! To go around threatening to smash a young girls head in and also call her a C....I can't stand her double standards either . The woman is vile.

I can't stand Helen !!!!!!!! How I would wish to be in that house and put her in her place.

Rant over :blush::blush:I would trust Helen more than any one else in the house. You are blinded by the swearing and her defend dive nature as a lot of people were perhaps but underneath that is a decent person with a troubled past. As to sweet Ashleigh, I heard her use the c..t word few days ago, in general conversation, mother Teresa apprentice she is not, take the word of an oldie! And no need to blush!

[Northern Monkey]

Welcome!Good points too.

[Denver]

I would trust Helen more than any one else in the house. You are blinded by the swearing and her defend dive nature as a lot of people were perhaps but underneath that is a decent person with a troubled past. As to sweet Ashleigh, I heard her use the c..t word few days ago, in general conversation, mother Teresa apprentice she is not, take the word of an oldie! And no need to blush!

This^^^^ my i add she is fiercely loyal to her freinds

[Marsh.]

She did fabricate it ?? She said what she thought she heard in a manor to suit her argument ? She didn't hear the whole conversation first, she heard only bad things and rolled with it ! Then went in to the bathroom and told ash what she heard but not in the way it was exactly said .

She quoted what they said. She misinterpreted the meaning a couple of times but Ashleigh flat out denied saying it, when we saw that she did.

[Jords]

This^^^^ my i add she is fiercely loyal to her freinds

ha good luck becoming her friend not sure theres enough room up her arse with Mark, Winston and Ash all there

[Forgetmenot]

I disagree! Eavesdroppers never hear anything good about them selfs and it's your own fault to be so sneaky and listen to people's privet conversation

But its Big Brother, so nothing is private..if we, the viewers can listen to them slag her off why should she not be able to?!

[Marsh.]

I disagree! Eavesdroppers never hear anything good about them selfs and it's your own fault to be so sneaky and listen to people's privet conversation

She went into the toilet and heard them say her name and she listened in.

I thought it was completely dumb of Ashleigh and Chris to be speaking so loudly in the first place.

[Miche30584]

With all due respect and to cause no offence to anyone ..I wouldn't trust a woman who sleeps with a married man , whom she blatantly knew and knew his wife was heavily pregnant . That speaks volumes for her character .

I doubt Ashleigh is anything like her . Most people bitch , I don't think Ashleigh's bitching makes her a terrible person . I think the situation probably has brought out the worse in Ashleigh . However , Helens seems to have always had this attitude!

[Denver]

With all due respect and to cause no offence to anyone ..I wouldn't trust a woman who sleeps with a married man , whom she blatantly knew and knew his wife was heavily pregnant . That speaks volumes for her character .

I doubt Ashleigh is anything like her . Most people bitch , I don't think Ashleigh's bitching makes her a terrible person . I think the situation probably has probably brought out the worse in Ashleigh . However , Helens seems to have always had this attitude!

Thats her past yes it was wrong but it shouldnt define her future

[Kazanne]

Im sure ashliegh was lieing to her face as she did mention her having a million chances

The truth

[Miche30584]

Thats her past yes it was wrong but it shouldnt define her future

Totally true!!! But the way she has carried herself through out proves my point to me . I thought she was going in there to possible prove that's she's not all that people make out , yet she is vile in the way she speaks to people , how she deals with them . I think there is some truth in what she said in regards to smashing Ashleigh's head in. Why say it ?? I know we say things in a heat of a moment but still , she has a conviction when she says all the things she does !

[RodHull]

And yes , she did purposely go to listen. If you look back , you will clearly see that she was in mid convo with ash stood still. She started walking to the toilet to hear the conversation , when she did ash said something like "what you doing" and Helen says shhh.

She was going to the toilet i believe then overheard them and decided to listen (I would have to)

How could she have purposely gone to listen how would she have known they were talking about her (considering they spend 90% of their time talking alone)

[Miche30584]

But its Big Brother, so nothing is private..if we, the viewers can listen to them slag her off why should she not be able to?!

Again true ! But you cannot deny it looked and it was sneaky? Imagine if it was the other way round ? I think Helen would be worse then how she was tonight ?!? Possibly

I think it's rude to listen in on a conversation that you're not apart of . Maybe I am different , I don't know ?

[Marsh.]

Again true ! But you cannot deny it looked and it was sneaky? Imagine if it was the other way round ? I think Helen would be worse then how she was tonight ?!? Possibly

I think it's rude to listen in on a conversation that you're not apart of . Maybe I am different , I don't know ?

If you went into the toilet and heard two people having a loud conversation about yourself, you wouldn't be the least bit curious and listen to what was being said?

You lie. :smug: :laugh:

[Marsh.]

Totally true!!! But the way she has carried herself through out proves my point to me . I thought she was going in there to possible prove that's she's not all that people make out , yet she is vile in the way she speaks to people , how she deals with them . I think there is some truth in what she said in regards to smashing Ashleigh's head in. Why say it ?? I know we say things in a heat of a moment but still , she has a conviction when she says all the things she does !

Ashleigh said the same thing about Christopher?

[Miche30584]

She was going to the toilet i believe then overheard them and decided to listen (I would have to)

How could she have purposely gone to listen how would she have known they were talking about her (considering they spend 90% of their time talking alone)

Are you serious ?? I just watched the clip back . She was on the floor speaking with ash. The way her head moves indicates to me , that she either heard her name or heard something of interested . To say she was going to the toilet is laughable . She blatantly tells ash shh, she has her fingers against her lips .

[Miche30584]

If you went into the toilet and heard two people having a loud conversation about yourself, you wouldn't be the least bit curious and listen to what was being said?

You lie. :smug: :laugh:


Honestly , I wouldn't ! I've learned to not listen to people's conversations , especially that don't involve me and if you are silly enough to stand in the toilet to listen to something that you're not invited to, then it's your fault that you heard 'certain' things about you.

[Miche30584]

If you went into the toilet and heard two people having a loud conversation about yourself, you wouldn't be the least bit curious and listen to what was being said?

You lie. :smug: :laugh:

Also being in a toilet and hearing stuff said about you is different to actually- purposely go to the toilet to listen

[Miche30584]

She went into the toilet and heard them say her name and she listened in.

I thought it was completely dumb of Ashleigh and Chris to be speaking so loudly in the first place.


Doesn't that say something ? I even think Ashleigh said she speaking loud enough so people in the garden to hear.

If Ashleigh was actually bitching and slagging her off like she has done in the past , I'm sure it would be under quieter tones and not in such a public area .

[joeysteele]

With all due respect and to cause no offence to anyone ..I wouldn't trust a woman who sleeps with a married man , whom she blatantly knew and knew his wife was heavily pregnant . That speaks volumes for her character .

I doubt Ashleigh is anything like her . Most people bitch , I don't think Ashleigh's bitching makes her a terrible person . I think the situation probably has brought out the worse in Ashleigh . However , Helens seems to have always had this attitude!

What about that married man looking for and paying to sleep with her,how does he get off scot free, was he thinking of his wife and future child.

[Marsh.]

Doesn't that say something ? I even think Ashleigh said she speaking loud enough so people in the garden to hear.

If Ashleigh was actually bitching and slagging her off like she has done in the past , I'm sure it would be under quieter tones and not in such a public area .

So why flat out deny saying stuff?

[Tip]

I don't know how anyone can take Helen seriously, she's just too absurd.

[Marsh.]

Also being in a toilet and hearing stuff said about you is different to actually- purposely go to the toilet to listen

She didn't though. She goes into the toilet and you see her head turn and her reaction when she hears her name.

[Marsh.]

Honestly , I wouldn't ! I've learned to not listen to people's conversations , especially that don't involve me and if you are silly enough to stand in the toilet to listen to something that you're not invited to, then it's your fault that you heard 'certain' things about you.

So you start to hear a conversation of two people discussing you and you choose not to listen? I don't believe you.

[Miche30584]

What about that married man looking for and paying to sleep with her,how does he get off scot free, was he thinking of his wife and future child.


Lol they're both as bad as each other believe me !!! However the thread isn't about him. I merely was pointing out I wouldn't trust someone like that, as someone said they'd trust her more then the other hm. That's why I mentioned that .

Also she sold stories about it , says enough for me !

[Miche30584]

So you start to hear a conversation of two people discussing you and you choose not to listen? I don't believe you.

That's your prerogative , I deal with things totally different .

[Marsh.]

Lol they're both as bad as each other believe me !!! However the thread isn't about him. I merely was pointing out I wouldn't trust someone like that, as someone said they'd trust her more then the other hm. That's why I mentioned that . Not even that selling stories about it as well ... Hmmm

Not really relevant to Big Brother whether you were talking about him or her.

We discuss the housemates inside the house, not a situation from years ago we don't really know everything about.

[Tarryn]

Just when she can't get any worse, right on cue she does.
The most vile, nasty housemate I have seen in all my years of watching BB.
I must be on a different planet as I really cannot understand why ANYONE would like that woman.

[Denver]

So you start to hear a conversation of two people discussing you and you choose not to listen? I don't believe you.

I think she dealt with it good i would of charged straight in giving them both ends of the barrells

[jegmeister]

This^^^^ my i add she is fiercely loyal to her freinds

and hates her enemies. That's the point. She won't accept anyone else's view unless it agrees with her own. I would have told her to ***** off time and time again if I was in there. She needs the truth rammed down her throat - permanently!

[Miche30584]

Just when she can't get any worse, right on cue she does.
The most vile, nasty housemate I have seen in all my years of watching BB.
I must be on a different planet as I really cannot understand why ANYONE would like that woman.
Omg thank you... I feel like I am the only one saying this and trying to defend my point .

[Miche30584]

Not really relevant to Big Brother whether you were talking about him or her.

We discuss the housemates inside the house, not a situation from years ago we don't really know everything about.

No it's not relevant to bb but it is to her and what it says about her .

[Marsh.]

I feel like I am the only one saying this

:joker: Have you never visited this forum before?

[Tarryn]

Omg thank you... I feel like I am the only one saying this and trying to defend my point .

I'm just glad I don't know that women in reality.
She seems like the most hateful woman you could possibly meet.
Totally toxic & two faced.
To defend her is to defend what she stands for. Awful.

[Miche30584]

:joker: Have you never visited this forum before?


What do you mean ?

[Marsh.]

No it's not relevant to bb but it is to her and what it says about her .

Not really. It was years ago. Should we also bring up what the other housemates did years ago? I'll bet none of them are angels.

[Marsh.]

What do you mean ?

Meaning it's pretty anti-Helen in general.

[Miche30584]

Not really. It was years ago. Should we also bring up what the other housemates did years ago? I'll bet none of them are angels.

You're right no one is an angel ! Having said that , the way we carry ourself says a lot . I don't give a rats ass if she's a trouble person or had a bad life , haven't most of us had difficulties .
Trust me , my life hasn't been peachy , I'd probably guarantee it's worse then hers and I don't treat people like s&@t . I don't talk to people s&@t and I don't walk around with an attitude .

You know there's a saying , treat others how you want to be treated !

[Marsh.]

You're right no one is an angel ! Having said that , the way we carry ourself says a lot . I don't give a rats ass if she's a trouble person or had a bad life , haven't most of us had difficulties .
Trust me , my life hasn't been peachy , I'd probably guarantee it's worse then hers and I don't treat people like s&@t . I don't talk to people s&@t and I don't walk around with an attitude .

You know there's a saying , treat others how you want to be treated !

Yes, but all of this doesn't warrant bringing her past into the discussion, that's not a level playing field. We discuss how they act in the house, their past is irrelevant.

[Miche30584]

Meaning it's pretty anti-Helen in general.

Oh lol... I've been looking through the posts , I know there isn't much love for her .

I was talking bout someone siding with me . I feel like I'm fighting ya'll :blush::blush:

[MrWong]

Agree OP. She's horrific.

[hijaxers]

Meaning it's pretty anti-Helen in general.

Yeah credit where its due - helen gets what she deserves ! well not quite - cos she'd have been kicked out on her butt cheeks week 2 if she got what she deserved . still she's had a fun summer ruling her little roosters ! Twat Twat and Twat

[Miche30584]

Agree OP. She's horrific.

:cheer2:

[sungrass]

The whole thing was a lot worse than that. I dont think it was even what was said that annoyed Helen but the fact that for weeks now to her face they both climb up her arse then behind closed doors are clearly slagging her off.

Yes arguably there were some back handed compliments in there but they were very backhanded. And she didnt sneak deliberately she came in that way innocently and overheard Chris saying 'Oh yes Helens and absolute ****ing nightmare'

I would have listened as well. Ashleigh and Chris have not been honest about their feelings toward her and the others from day 1 so dont try to pull they poor innocents argument they are as dirty and corrupt as the rest of them.

The whole video might be on youtube so you could check it out - Helen first heard them talking as Chris was saying really positive things about her, that she was beautiful that he hopes the change is real because it would be amazing. They said "she would have been a nightmare for us at school" and that was it. Its true - at school she would be a nightmare for those two. A classic bully.

Helen really took it over board. I think she wanted her groupies attention.

I like Helen - But she twists everything and is SUPER paranoid. I think she was raised in care. That's no excuse but its worth knowing. She didn't have the education Chris has had or the family support Ashleigh has

I respected her for not taking the money tonight.

I have no idea who my winner is right now.
Tonight really changed everything for me personally.

[Miche30584]

Yes, but all of this doesn't warrant bringing her past into the discussion, that's not a level playing field. We discuss how they act in the house, their past is irrelevant.

But it's not that far in the past ! It is part of her at the end of the day and I think it's a valid point . That's one of my reasons for not trusting her .

[Miche30584]

Yeah credit where its due - helen gets what she deserves ! well not quite - cos she'd have been kicked out on her butt cheeks week 2 if she got what she deserved . still she's had a fun summer ruling her little roosters ! Twat Twat and Twat

Lol :cheer2::cheer2:

[Miche30584]

The whole video might be on youtube so you could check it out - Helen first heard them talking as Chris was saying really positive things about her, that she was beautiful that he hopes the change is real because it would be amazing. They said "she would have been a nightmare for us at school" and that was it. Its true - at school she would be a nightmare for those two. A classic bully.

Helen really took it over board. I think she wanted her groupies attention.

I like Helen - But she twists everything and is SUPER paranoid. I think she was raised in care. That's no excuse but its worth knowing. She didn't have the education Chris has had or the family support Ashleigh has

I respected her for not taking the money tonight.

I have no idea who my winner is right now.
Tonight really changed everything for me personally.

Thank you!

And those things you said about her are the same for me but I am nothing like how she is !

[Marsh.]

But it's not that far in the past ! It is part of her at the end of the day and I think it's a valid point . That's one of my reasons for not trusting her .

I don't care how far in the past it is. No one else's life prior to the show is dragged into it, it's not relevant no matter how much you spin it.

God knows there's enough material to discuss from the last 9 weeks without dragging Wayne bloody Rooney into it.

[rusticgal]

I've been coming on the forum since this series of bb has started . I've enjoyed looking through people opinions on the hm.

I've come to the point where I need to vent !!!!!!! So I've decided to join and do just that.
What's got me to this point? Tonight's show , where Helen just blatantly lies and fabricates everything , in regards to the conversation where she " walked " in at that moment" BS !!!! You didn't walk in at that moment love , you purposely/sneakily walked into the toilet to listen to a conversation that you wasn't invited too?
What about how she talks in regards to Ashleigh ? Smashing her head in because of what she "heard" absolutely disgraceful !!!
This woman (Helen) has a son , what a great role model ! To go around threatening to smash a young girls head in and also call her a C....I can't stand her double standards either . The woman is vile.

I can't stand Helen !!!!!!!! How I would wish to be in that house and put her in her place.

Rant over :blush::blush:

She is a vile human being and full of double standards. She heard the good points of Ashleigh and Chris's convo because we saw her listening to that part of the conversation...she is rotten to the core..a manipulative liar.

[rusticgal]

She went into the toilet and heard them say her name and she listened in.

I thought it was completely dumb of Ashleigh and Chris to be speaking so loudly in the first place.


If they were whispering it would have been worse. Chris was drunk and Ashleigh wasn't...why would she hush a conversation if it was a valid and balanced one.

[Miche30584]

I don't care how far in the past it is. No one else's life prior to the show is dragged into it, it's not relevant no matter how much you spin it.

God knows there's enough material to discuss from the last 9 weeks without dragging Wayne bloody Rooney into it.

Well I didn't actually say his name purposely . Also , I was merely stating I wouldn't trust someone with that comportment . I wasn't going on about it , didn't even bring it up in my post or even intent to. I can only go by her actions , actions speak louder then words .
How anyone can say they'd trust someone they've only watched on tv a couple months is beyond me .

[joeysteele]

I don't care how far in the past it is. No one else's life prior to the show is dragged into it, it's not relevant no matter how much you spin it.

God knows there's enough material to discuss from the last 9 weeks without dragging Wayne bloody Rooney into it.

I have to agree with you again,this is becoming a habit.
You are saving me loads of typing and are clearly on great form tonight Marsh.

I agree that her past and what she does is irrelevant,she is a BB housemate and should be judged on that not what she has done or does outside.

If we really judged housemates on all we could know about them out of the house, it could probably be that we wouldn't like anyone.

[Miche30584]

I have to agree with you again,this is becoming a habit.
You are saving me loads of typing and are clearly on great form tonight Marsh.

I agree that her past and what she does is irrelevant,she is a BB housemate and should be judged on that not what she has done or does outside.

If we really judged housemates on all we could know about them out of the house, it could probably be that we wouldn't like anyone.

Not that I am defending mark but don't people bring up the fact ( I mean in other postings ) he's been on other reality shows ? Theoretically, that's his past ?

I've seen people talking about Danielle doing her webcam thing , that was in the past ! Zoe and so on ....


Again!!!!!! I wasn't bringing her past into my thread , I brought up something she has done which I personally don't agree with and think shows her character .
I said it in response to someone saying they'd trust her over the other hm.

I'm sorry but I can't just go by what I see in the house , I can't help the fact of what I know about her , it's common knowledge . The fact that she hasn't done anything to help herself or her character proves to me she is that person.
What I mean by that , a Nasty , vile , despicable person.

The fact that she done what she did and then go to sell stories about it , what a great person she is !!! Really nice of her . Also 2 months of being in the house completely removes her past and anything it has to do with her .

She hasn't proven that she's not that person quite the opposite !

[Miche30584]

I have to agree with you again,this is becoming a habit.
You are saving me loads of typing and are clearly on great form tonight Marsh.

I agree that her past and what she does is irrelevant,she is a BB housemate and should be judged on that not what she has done or does outside.

If we really judged housemates on all we could know about them out of the house, it could probably be that we wouldn't like anyone.


One more thing ... I would like to state this ,,, I am not saying you're a bad/nasty person for doing the profession she did , not at all! I mean going and selling stories about it, knowing (if you have any intelligence ) you are going to cause so much heart ache , I mean to the worse degree . She could have destroyed a family etc

I think that does say a lot about you .

[Creggle]

She said those words never came out my mouth

She never said Helen had a million chances, her exact words were...

'She'd make our lives miserable at school, there were plenty of girls like her for me and I'd give them a second chance, a third chance, a tenth chance, a thousand chances and each time they'd make my life miserable'

That's nothing to do with her and Helen's relationship in the house, she was simply explaining to Chris her school life. Helen took with it and ran like a dog with a bone. Twisting the entire conversation between them to suit her goals, and to look like the victim, and it backfired with the public, hugely.

When 'confronted' Helen said that Ashleigh remarked that she'd given Helen a million and one chances to change and she hadn't, which is far from what Ashleigh said and never came out of her mouth.




I do feel sorry for Helen though, she is very soft and vulnerable, and for whatever reason (most likely her past) she can't handle the fact that she is, and has to put up a huge barrier of nastiness to protect herself from getting hurt. The ironic part is that her being like that is the exact reason as to why she gets hurt at the smallest things!

[Marsh.]

I have to agree with you again,this is becoming a habit.
You are saving me loads of typing and are clearly on great form tonight Marsh.


Why thank you my dear joey, you're not so bad yourself. :smug:

[Marsh.]

If they were whispering it would have been worse. Chris was drunk and Ashleigh wasn't...why would she hush a conversation if it was a valid and balanced one.

Because they were making bitchy comments within it, the pair of them.

[Marsh.]

She never said Helen had a million chances, her exact words were...

'She'd make our lives miserable at school, there were plenty of girls like her for me and I'd give them a second chance, a third chance, a tenth chance, a thousand chances and each time they'd make my life miserable'

"She would've ****ing destroyed my life at school"

"I've spent my whole secondary school giving people like her second, third, hundred, thousand chances..."

"If I didn't like her, I wouldn't have given her these chances the last few weeks"

Whether she said a "million chances" specifically or not, the sentiment is the same but paraphrased.

[jet]

I'm just glad I don't know that women in reality.
She seems like the most hateful woman you could possibly meet.
Totally toxic & two faced.
To defend her is to defend what she stands for. Awful.

100% agree with you.

[jet]

Not that I am defending mark but don't people bring up the fact ( I mean in other postings ) he's been on other reality shows ? Theoretically, that's his past ?

I've seen people talking about Danielle doing her webcam thing , that was in the past ! Zoe and so on ....


Again!!!!!! I wasn't bringing her past into my thread , I brought up something she has done which I personally don't agree with and think shows her character .
I said it in response to someone saying they'd trust her over the other hm.

I'm sorry but I can't just go by what I see in the house , I can't help the fact of what I know about her , it's common knowledge . The fact that she hasn't done anything to help herself or her character proves to me she is that person.
What I mean by that , a Nasty , vile , despicable person.

The fact that she done what she did and then go to sell stories about it , what a great person she is !!! Really nice of her . Also 2 months of being in the house completely removes her past and anything it has to do with her .

She hasn't proven that she's not that person quite the opposite !

Exactly. The hypocrisy is stunning. Other peoples pasts have been brought up and always have been. It's not new.
I had never heard of Helen or her past before she entered the BB house, and I couldn't care less about it. She can sleep with an entire football team for all I care. I personally judge her on how she is in the house.
If people want to bring her past into it, they have as much right to do so as those who bang on about other peoples. Nobody's past is out of bounds when they enter BB. They are all prone to judgement, and they know this when they enter.

[Achilles]

Im sure ashliegh was lieing to her face as she did mention her having a million chances

Show me because I missed that part. Ashleigh said to Chris that he had been talking passionately about Helen for 45 minutes.

[Ammi]

..it's funny how we all see things differently and yet 'see the same thing'...I don't see Helen as being loyal to her 'friends at all...what I see is someone who controls..a real life 'Power' person and so long as the people around her fall inline, agree with her, cheer her and basically never question or criticise her then she will defend them..'protect' them but they would feel her wrath in a split second if they ever dared to question her behaviour...that's not friendship, that's control..and the cool gang have on the whole been happy to be controlled because then they haven't had to put themselves in the firing line so much and had to be so vocal ..Ash has gone through the whole series under the shadow of Helen...and she's been happy to have taken that control also because with her immunity, neither has she ever really been in the firing line until now, when she's facing 'her public' ....how easy it's ben for her to have been 'the entertainment' of the series...and even then, she hasn't really been...she's dragged it down imo....