Who's right in the money argument?

[zakman440]

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[Marsh.]

They all have points except Chris, struggling to dodge.

[MarcusMel]

This in a way is pointless.

They don't have the extra money to split so what would or would not have happend will always be unknown.

[Braden]

None of them.

It's the exact same as last year, constant drowning about absolutely nothing. Nobody is making sense because they've all made their personal decisions and everyone gets annoyed with each other.

Exactly what BB wants.

[Daniel R]

Chris and Christopher

[Jamesy]

No one.

They don't have the money. The 'pact' was a load of BS. They all look worse after this.

It's all pointless really. Just makes me want to see the end of this series sooner.

[MarcusMel]

Did Chris look like he was bothered with not having or having the money in the diary room?

It was not about the money but about a point about how people have been treating him in the house.

[erinp5]

Three Hms said yes to the money.
Mark was taking 10k for his Salon
Chris was sharing it with three others
Ash was sharing it out, so why not say NO like Winston/Pav/Helen

[MarcusMel]

Three Hms said yes to the money.
Mark was taking 10k for his Salon
Chris was sharing it with three others
Ash was sharing it out, so why not say NO like Winston/Pav/Helen

Because they don't believe they will trust the winner with the money!!! :dance:

[Josy]

Chris is the one that's bare faced lied so him

The whole pact was idiotic in the first place though

[Denver]

Chris was out of order trying to fob the other 5 off without money

[erinp5]

Chris is the one that's bare faced lied so him

The whole pact was idiotic in the first place though

Mark barefaced lied ,he told the HMs he took the money to have it in his own hands to split .

[Jordan.]

Helen. Chris was showing his true creepy colours stealing the money for himself and got exposed.

[andybigbro]

Christopher.

Helen is a mess.

[Denver]

Mark barefaced lied ,he told the HMs he took the money to have it in his own hands to split .

He said in the diary room he would share 10k so not really lieing

[Brother Leon]

Chris & Mark came off terrible.

Helen was right. Christopher was yelling and **** for nothing, but has obviously come across well as it was towards Helen.

[Jordan.]

Can't take Christopher seriously when he only grew a voice after hearing the public opinion of him

[LukeB]

why are they making a impact when they aint even won the money! they all would of shared it with there closest people anyway it happens every year

[Marsh.]

Christopher whining about what Helen does was too ironic when he was the one who elevated this particular conversation into a screaming match. :joker:

[Achilles]

Chris was out of order trying to fob the other 5 off without money

Why? The others all intended to do exactly the same. They just lied about it. Chris was honest. Do you really think Helen and her gang would split it with the whole house?

[Ammi]

..no one who was arguing or defending anyone who would take the money was right...Ash, Mark and Chris all said yes to the money so would have broken the pact otherwise they would have said no...all of the others who said no I believe would have split the money with at least some if not all of the other HMs...just saying yes meant there was no 'argument' or defence for them to have...

[delta]

Moneygate:

They agreed a pact and by rights they all should have said 'No' leave the money.

Now we don't know that Ash would have split the money ( I think he would have) but you can never say 100%

Mark- I am pretty dubious about, I think he would have had good intentions to split 10k of the money and keep one third for himself { he actually said that in the diary room}

Chris: What a sniveling little sh!t, I thought it was only water that found it's lowest level that **** sunk to new lows tonight. The issue was never about money like he was trying to intimate in the diary room,. He's an actor alright and he wants to get as far as possible in this game and I dare say would like to win it, in spite of the ambivalence he portrays. Tonight he attempted to sully the rest of the house with the 'greed' label and once again he's in there looking down from his ivory tower being judge and jury over the morals of the rest of the housemates.

He clearly said that he would take the money and not split it between the remaining housemates but share it between himself, Christopher and Ashleigh. What a grade *******

Do I believe him? Not in the least, he would take it for himself. Did you also see the mask slip for the first time? It got really nasty with Helen, I always knew there was a darker side to this freak.

As for Christopher the sooner he is binned the better, if he thinks his monotone diatribe is interesting or will enable him to win the prize then he is more deluded than the part he is playing.

Never a truer word said and something I said in a post earlier today, you cannot argue with a fool or they end up bringing you down to their level, Mark for all of his faults, made a pact with the devil when he buddied up to The Flounce. Helen had it bang on , Mark is going because of his poor choice of a partner in there, Yeah, maybe his own self down fall but all of the same,never a truer word said.

[erinp5]

He said in the diary room he would share 10k so not really lieing

so he broke the pact then ,cheers.
Why did Ash think he had to be the custodian of the money and break the pact .

[RodHull]

Christopher.

Helen is a mess.

Christopher is a pathetic mess who does whatever he deems popular with the public, stuck up marks arse for weeks finds out hes not liked then suddenly treats him like dog s***e. Finds out Ashleigh is fave to win and suddenly her and Chris can do no wrong to him. Hes a sycophantic loud mouth turd.

Mark - Lied

Chris - Lied and even worse tried to pass it off as some pious decision to relieve the HMs of the temptation of money

Ash - taken at face value said hed split it, assuming we believe him the most hes guilty of is not trusting people.

Personally I think even Ashleigh was struggling with Chris's excuses as she didnt speak up for him once.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Winston
Pav
Helen
Ashleigh

All played a straight bat

[Josy]

Christopher is a pathetic mess who does whatever he deems popular with the public, stuck up marks arse for weeks finds out hes not liked then suddenly treats him like dog s***e. Finds out Ashleigh is fave to win and suddenly her and Chris can do no wrong to him. Hes a sycophantic loud mouth turd.

Mark - Lied

Chris - Lied and even worse tried to pass it off as some pious decision to relieve the HMs of the temptation of money

Ash - taken at face value said hed split it, assuming we believe him the most hes guilty of is not trusting people.

Personally I think even Ashleigh was struggling with Chris's excuses as she didnt speak up for him once.

Yeah I noticed that too

[Denver]

Why? The others all intended to do exactly the same. They just lied about it. Chris was honest. Do you really think Helen and her gang would split it with the whole house?

Helen would 100% share

[Northern Monkey]

Why? The others all intended to do exactly the same. They just lied about it. Chris was honest. Do you really think Helen and her gang would split it with the whole house?

Exactly.Chris was the only honest one there.

[Achilles]

Helen would 100% share

Seriously? You think she would give £3k to the 7 other housemates and then the remaining £1k to charity? Frrrt as she would say.

[Ammi]

Why? The others all intended to do exactly the same. They just lied about it. Chris was honest. Do you really think Helen and her gang would split it with the whole house?


..I don't think Ash or Mark would otherwise they would have said no for the same reasons the others did..but I do think that Helen would have shared at least with some housemates but if I'm honest, I don't think any one would have shared with all housemates, including the ones they really haven't got along with in there...

[Marsh.]

Ashleigh is on to Chris anyway. She's just being pleasant because she down't want to be cruel when he's so polite to her.

She'll drop him like a cold bag of sick on the outside.

[delta]

I believe the Northerners would share- our word is our bond, usually if we say something on the shake of the hand the deal is set.


Major props to Pav and Winston!!

[Denver]

Seriously? You think she would give £3k to the 7 other housemates and then the remaining £1k to charity? Frrrt as she would say.

I do i have no reason to doubt it

[Crimson Dynamo]

If chris had any balls he would have refused the pact precisely for the reasons he gave after being exposed

[Achilles]

There are no pacts between lions and men

I said that once a long time ago :hehe:

[Achilles]

If chris had any balls he would have refused the pact precisely for the reasons he gave after being exposed

He doesn't have to do a Louis van Gaal and get his balls out and say F the pact.

[erinp5]

Ash like Chris and Mark broke the pact ,I understand the reasons but the fact remain three HMs broke the pact ,different reason but the same outcome

[Northern Monkey]

..I don't think Ash or Mark would otherwise they would have said no for the same reasons the others did..but I do think that Helen would have shared at least with some housemates but if I'm honest, I don't think any one would have shared with all housemates, including the ones they really haven't got along with in there...
Yes this.Why are people not seeing this.Mark and Ash took the money too,They both would've shared with there mates.Chris was their scape goat.None of them would've shared with the whole house and Chris knew this.The pact was bollocks.

[RodHull]

Chris was honest. Do you really think Helen and her gang would split it with the whole house?

Except he wasnt cause he never admitted this was his intention might have had some respect for him if he had.

That been my issue with him and Ashleigh since day 1 for all their 'we are so much better/nicer than them' schtick they still never actually own their decisions or have the balls to back them up or show any actual evidence of it. They just go off and bitch about it with each other.

Im amazed by this series. I get people dont like Helen/Mark etc I get it, what I dont get is how that translates into loving two clearly equally unpleasant fake people cause they are a minority.

Not one person in that house is without fault, Ashleigh and Chris have reached this zenith were even when like tonight he outrights lies many times, is caught out and confronted people on the forum somehow paint him to be the hero just cause Helen didnt agree with him.

Its actually quite sad that people dislike her that much that a snivelling sycophant (christopher) a lying actor (Chris) and a bitchy girl with no loyalty are the favourites

[erinp5]

Chris went up for nomination at a cost of 10k,he should have taken the 10grand :dance:

[MrWong]

Your options should be

Helen, Christopher, Pav and Winston

or..

Ash, Chris and Mark

Helen, Christopher, Pav and Winston were in the right as they left the money in the prize fund. Ash, Chris and Mark chose to remove it, to er, then add it back to share out later???

[joeysteele]

I have to say in the main the people who said no,so Helen, Winston and Pav really.

[Achilles]

Chris went up for nomination at a cost of 10k,he should have taken the 10grand :dance:

Excellent point.

[Vladimir]

Helen was right. I liked her comment in the DR about Christopher being naive and taking the fall for Chris.

Mark and Chris came off terribly, especially Chris who let Christopher fight his battle.

[MarcusMel]

Fact: Helen and Ash hid wine rightly to be shared with Chris.
So are these two if winners going to share with Chirs???? Wine behaviour would say not.
What makse us think that they have changed so much that if they think its ok to do this with wine then why would they not to the same with money?

[MrWong]

Fact: Helen and Ash hid wine rightly to be shared with Chris.
So are these two if winners going to share with Chirs???? Wine behaviour would say not.
What makse us think that they have changed so much that if they think its ok to do this with wine then why would they not to the same with money?

Good point. Those thieving arseholes can't even be trusted to share the alcohol. Nevermind 15k.

[Achilles]

Fact: Helen and Ash hid wine rightly to be shared with Chris.
So are these two if winners going to share with Chirs???? Wine behaviour would say not.
What makse us think that they have changed so much that if they think its ok to do this with wine then why would they not to the same with money?

Another excellent point.

[Niamh.]

..no one who was arguing or defending anyone who would take the money was right...Ash, Mark and Chris all said yes to the money so would have broken the pact otherwise they would have said no...all of the others who said no I believe would have split the money with at least some if not all of the other HMs...just saying yes meant there was no 'argument' or defence for them to have...

Exactly. If you want to be annoyed with Chris then you should be annoyed with Ash and Mark too otherwise you look like a dickhead (not you Ammi, Helen and Co)

[Niamh.]

Fact: Helen and Ash hid wine rightly to be shared with Chris.
So are these two if winners going to share with Chirs???? Wine behaviour would say not.
What makse us think that they have changed so much that if they think its ok to do this with wine then why would they not to the same with money?

Eeeeeeeeeeexactly.

[HBB1508]

Fact: Helen and Ash hid wine rightly to be shared with Chris.
So are these two if winners going to share with Chirs???? Wine behaviour would say not.
What makse us think that they have changed so much that if they think its ok to do this with wine then why would they not to the same with money?

Exactly - not sure why people think Ash was telling the truth given the above behaviour - Chris and Christopher came out the best - Ash Helen and Mark made themselves look even more stupid than they are - which is quite hard really and Winston turned into a completely nasty twonk.

[mrflibble]

The people that came out the worst are the people were obviously concerned about the money in the first place. Choosing to take the money and whatever their intentions were are irrelevant matters because they were all told the PUBLIC have chosen them to make this choice about MONEY THAT DIDN'T EXIST PREVIOUSLY. Therefore, the public had voted for them to win a prize, and they had every right to say yes or no. This whole 'pact' defense is complete crap. As that woman on BOTS pointed out, they didn't sit down and discuss the ins and outs. Chris kept bringing up that pacts never worked. No-one wanted to listen and probably just assumed they'd bother the winner for their whole 3k. Presumably, Chris and Ashleigh just agreed to the pact to shut them up, thinking that nothing would ever come of it and whoever won wouldn't split it with them anyway (and possibly others who didn't really care but didn't speak up).

Ash, Chris and Mark all took the money. This doesn't make them come off better or worse. But when it's revealed, Helen/Mark/Ash/Winston/Pav decide that Chris isn't allowed a reason and that he's not to be trusted an ounce, but they KNOW that Mark and Ash would be trusted and don't have to explain themselves further than 'I was gonna split it'. Also notice that Chris said he would split it but didn't state 'with everyone'. Why should he? And why should they? If it's their money that they've rightfully won, they can do whatever they like with it. If one of them gets the flak for saying yes, then they ALL should. Helen says no to taking the money because she trusts everyone that made the pact, yet she doesn't believe Chris would be trusted with the money. What that says to me is that she probably thinks Winston is going to win and knows he'll give her the money. I fully understand that she might not trust Chris but if she thought she could doubt one person in that house, as the winner, to share that money then she should've said yes.

The people who are getting worked up over possibly not receiving 3000 pounds are the people who come off the worst. The people with double standards come off the worst. The people who put words in other people's mouths and don't allow them to speak come off the worst.

Ashleigh didn't really say anything at all and doesn't really come off as anything. Chris tries to defend himself but they won't listen (and he doesn't just give them an 'I would split it' statement over and over like Mark, he tries to explain his thought process and what led him to say 'yes'). Christopher, sick of the hypocrisy, double standards and ridiculousness he has put up with for 9 weeks slays Helen and her gang, whilst fighting his own battle, sticking up for his friend and putting Helen in her place. Chris and Christopher, particularly Christopher, are definitely in the right.

[Niamh.]

Great post ^

[MarcusMel]

:clap1: ....

I think Chris is old enough and observant to know that trying to talk with people who have already made up their minds about something then it is pointless to get angry and over do the stress of saying 'not true', they are just never going to believe you, even if actually had the money and split it, they still would not believe you did!

[karezza]

Helen is right. Chris is a creep.