Get some self respect, man

[alex_front2]

Helen and Pav even call him pointless Pav to his face. :joker:

[Lister of Smeg]

He's turning into Jale 2.0 .

[alex_front2]

When Ash called him PP he looked a bit sullen. Still it's a price he's willing to pay to be acknowledged by cool gang.

[Pete.]

They should stop soon otherwise he will get sympathy votes

[JoshBB]

He's turning into Jale 2.0 .

She wasn't like that?

[Razor]

He's turning into Jale 2.0 .

Very sad to watch. Plus all the feeling sorry for himself and 'I am alone' comments in the diary room.

I half wonder if it's all part of his game plan.

[dyfed]

Very sad to see Pav crawling up their backside,it has done him no favours.

[JTM45]

She wasn't like that?


Were you watching the same show ?:conf:

Jale totally sold her soul just so Helen would be her fwiend!!! It was pathetically sad. :bored:

[andybigbro]

I think they do it on jest.

It's just a bit of fun, like friends taking the mick.

[joeysteele]

Well to be fair Ash and Helen have spoken to him more from what we have seen and Pav already has a massive distrust and possible dislike of Chris.

Pointless Pav is not that bad although I would have used a different word likely myself.

[Lister of Smeg]

Very sad to watch. Plus all the feeling sorry for himself and 'I am alone' comments in the diary room.

I half wonder if it's all part of his game plan.

Yeah he did the same thing after Nominations last week went to the diary room and tried to claim to be lonely yet was more than ever integrated into the group .

[alex_front2]

Pav should have stuck to his lonely, isolated sympathy vote "schtick" it would have lifted him from 1st out to maybe 3rd out.

[kistar]

When he was lying on the bed next to Helen giving Ash a massage!

[joeysteele]

Actually, I am far from sure he will be first out now.

[Jords]

oh Pav :facepalm:

[Brother Leon]

The "Pointless Pav" stuff isn't malicious. Look at the digs Ash threw at Helen. It's all love. They are a lot more welcoming to him than Chris and Ashleigh were so it's no shock he wants to spend his time with them. At least e won't have to worry about looking like a perv around them.

[alex_front2]

When he was lying on the bed next to Helen giving Ash a massage!

To quote Marlon it was "awks ", he's so desperate he's happy playing 3rd wheel knowing full well if Mark n Winston had still been in, it would have been "Pav" who?

[Crimson Dynamo]

You could see the years of wearing the turban and feeling ostracised

Religion has so much to answer for

[reece(:]

Pav trying to garn sympathy votes? He is pointless anyway

[Jules2]

Well to be fair Ash and Helen have spoken to him more from what we have seen and Pav already has a massive distrust and possible dislike of Chris.

Pointless Pav is not that bad although I would have used a different word likely myself.

Pav has distrust of all of them and has played the poor me theme very well. Think about it, when he went in he attached himself to Mark, Mark was the winner at that time, Pav knew that. Then he went with Winston another supposed winner. Pav knows what he is doing and he had good knowledge of the HMs beforehand.

[alex_front2]

You could see the years of wearing the turban and feeling ostracised

Religion has so much to answer for

His mates on bbots have been Asian/ Sikhs, too. One revealed he will do something crazy e.g. balance an orange on head to entertain us :joker:

But I get your point, once faith (obvious faith) comes into play, one becomes less relatable. Winston, Ash, Steve = lads. Pav = Sikh

[Jules2]

The "Pointless Pav" stuff isn't malicious. Look at the digs Ash threw at Helen. It's all love. They are a lot more welcoming to him than Chris and Ashleigh were so it's no shock he wants to spend his time with them. At least e won't have to worry about looking like a perv around them.

That is debateable because now he is pointless, Helen has only now decided that she likes him, strange that she knows that the others have minds of their own and are not sheep. She has lost 3 of her main soldiers so now she has to depend on pointless.

[alex_front2]

That is debateable because now he is pointless, Helen has only now decided that she likes him, strange that she knows that the others have minds of their own and are not sheep. She has lost 3 of her main soldiers so now she has to depend on pointless. Also as she must know that he's battling against Ash as first one out and doesn't want Pav to get sympathy vote.

[Northern Monkey]

Feel abit sorry for him,He just wants to fit in with the cool kids but he never will.

[joeysteele]

Pav has distrust of all of them and has played the poor me theme very well. Think about it, when he went in he attached himself to Mark, Mark was the winner at that time, Pav knew that. Then he went with Winston another supposed winner. Pav knows what he is doing and he had good knowledge of the HMs beforehand.

I agree Jules2,I do think genuinely the person he least likes or would ever trust in there now however is Chris.

[Scotty07]

Pointless and turning into poisonous Pav with more talk from out of Helen & Ash's back passage.

[Niamh.]

I think they do it on jest.

It's just a bit of fun, like friends taking the mick.

Yeah this, obviously I'm not a fan of the "cool Kids" but the three of them were taking the piss out of eachother and at what the public had said about them, tbf Helen was getting the worst of the ribbing from Ash

[HBB1508]

When he was lying on the bed next to Helen giving Ash a massage!

That was just so cringe - yuk.

[Mick]

Well to be fair Ash and Helen have spoken to him more from what we have seen and Pav already has a massive distrust and possible dislike of Chris.

Pointless Pav is not that bad although I would have used a different word likely myself.

I feel neutral about him as he has done little right or wrong.Gave it large at the start but has appeared like a little lost Rabbit caught in the headlights.

RE Swerving Chris I think he was very hurt /embarrassed by the accusation that he was staring at Ashleigh yet he did not defend himself which he had every right to.

So he is now cool by default.

[Cherie]

Pav has distrust of all of them and has played the poor me theme very well. Think about it, when he went in he attached himself to Mark, Mark was the winner at that time, Pav knew that. Then he went with Winston another supposed winner. Pav knows what he is doing and he had good knowledge of the HMs beforehand.

I agree he is very wiley, but his "poor me" game is wearing thin and if Ashleigh wins he only has himself to blame as he switched to evict Danielle :hehe:

[Niamh.]

I agree he is very wiley, but his "poor me" game is wearing thin and if Ashleigh wins he only has himself to blame as he switched to evict Danielle :hehe:

I bet he's kicking himself about that now :hehe:

[Nedusa]

Feel abit sorry for him,He just wants to fit in with the cool kids but he never will.

To be honest I think he is the most pointless BB HM in years, he adds NOTHING to the show, he has no personality and nothing interesting to say. he shows no talents other than shrinking into the background.

Worst HM by a long way, out of his depth and if removed tomorrow it would be a week before anyone would notice.

A wasted opportunity by BB to put into the house a far larger Alpha male/female character that could have shaken things up and earned a genuine chance in winning the show.:crazy::crazy:





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[Crimson Dynamo]

him lying on the bed whilst helen sits on ash giving him the worlds worst massage was

cringe

[Lostie!]

I can't help but feel that people are annoyed he chose to spend more time with Helen / Ash over Chris / Ashleigh. I mean, if he stuck with the latter two, I doubt as many people would say things like "get some self respect", even though they weren't much warmer towards him. Actually, Chris was the worst out of them all in terms of irrational, intense dislike for him.

I do wish he'd just stayed more neutral, but I don't think he can win either way with some people. He stays alone, then he's playing for sympathy. He goes with Helen and Ash, he's kissing up to the wrong people. If he went to the other side, he'd have probably been accused of following the public reaction.

Also, he's evidently not kissing up to them. He's defended Christopher more than once, he nominated two of Helen's close friends in the last nominations and Ash the week before that, he admitted to Helen that she has said the nastiest things in there, for example.

[Babschap]

He's shown himself to be a complete arse.

[jessicadanielle]

I can't help but feel that people are annoyed he chose to spend more time with Helen / Ash over Chris / Ashleigh. I mean, if he stuck with the latter two, I doubt as many people would say things like "get some self respect", even though they weren't much warmer towards him. Actually, Chris was the worst out of them all in terms of irrational, intense dislike for him.

I do wish he'd just stayed more neutral, but I don't think he can win either way with some people. He stays alone, then he's playing for sympathy. He goes with Helen and Ash, he's kissing up to the wrong people. If he went to the other side, he'd have probably been accused of following the public reaction.

Also, he's evidently not kissing up to them. He's defended Christopher more than once, he nominated two of Helen's close friends in the last nominations and Ash the week before that, he admitted to Helen that she has said the nastiest things in there, for example.

Totally agree, he couldn't win! All were equally mean to him in his first few weeks, particularly Chris, and I can understand that if he is a "lad" at home that he'd be drawn to Helen's group with Winston and Ash. And I think he is doing pretty well at being friends with them without being up their arse, just like tonight's episode in the toilet.. He made it really clear to her that she has been a bitch.

I remember when he first entered he seemed to really like Ashleigh but obviously doesn't like her much now, and I can't work out if he's genuinely changed his mind, or if he only liked her in the first place because she was a public favourite, or if he's just been scared off by Chris!

Also, can I take this opportunity to thank you for keeping John Locke alive in my heart :lovedup:

[Lostie!]

Totally agree, he couldn't win! All were equally mean to him in his first few weeks, particularly Chris, and I can understand that if he is a "lad" at home that he'd be drawn to Helen's group with Winston and Ash. And I think he is doing pretty well at being friends with them without being up their arse, just like tonight's episode in the toilet.. He made it really clear to her that she has been a bitch.

I remember when he first entered he seemed to really like Ashleigh but obviously doesn't like her much now, and I can't work out if he's genuinely changed his mind, or if he only liked her in the first place because she was a public favourite, or if he's just been scared off by Chris!

Also, can I take this opportunity to thank you for keeping John Locke alive in my heart :lovedup:

Yeah, glad you can see it too :). I mean, I don't want Pav to get involved in the "groups" thing when both were happy to nominate him just for being new, but I don't think he's sucking up to Helen and Ash, and reckon he'd be getting a tough time out here whatever he did.
And yay for another Lostie :cheer2:.

[Sophiee]

they always make out they're joking but I actually think they're serious because they've had conversations about it whilst he's not been around :suspect:.